Huckabee: I wish I could have gotten an easy ride to national prominence like Sarah Palin
posted at 5:27 pm on November 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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He’s not saying it critically, mind you. Since when has Huck ever been critical of a rival, overtly or otherwise?
Huckabee had some interesting observations about Sarah Palin, a potential 2012 opponent, suggesting that she didn’t earn her spurs and was more appealing to the base of the party because she hadn’t been scrutinized in the primary.
“What John McCain did for her was to give her the capacity to sort of leapfrog over the process and get right to the center stage,” he said of the GOP’s vice presidential nominee.
Unlike those, he added, who had competed in the Republican primary.
“She didn’t have to get bloodied like us. Few people on that stage didn’t get bloodied.”
He did allow, though, that she did get bloodied — “but not by the people Republicans care about, you guys.”
Fearing that this lament might sound a tad resentful, he went on to stress that he was merely envious, nothing more. Oh, and he also reminded McCain that he blew the race by not opposing the bailout and probably would have lost the nomination to Huck himself if so many state primaries hadn’t been winner take all.
Exit admission: The only thing keeping me blogging through this long, long winter of conservative discontent is the dream of a Huck/Palin death match in 2011 to determine who the one true “Christian leader” is. Followed, of course, by 15 Kathleen Parker columns proclaiming the end of conservatism, and then 15 more describing the resulting hate mail. (Just kidding. She’ll have renounced the right long before then.)
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apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Governor Huckabee was our best speaker and the most charismatic of the Republican candidates.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Because he doesn’t fit your definition of a Christian, but he fits the dictionary definition. As I was voting for a president, it didn’t matter to me, except that he had lived a fairly good life, and was a competent and knowledgeable candidate with lots of executive experience. Huckabee flip-flopped on immigration DURING the campaign. How can you trust him after that? Because you aren’t looking at the man, you’re looking at the man you wish he was. Romney and Huckabee are both politicians, they both say things they think will help them get elected. You just happen to think one of them is an angel and the other is the devil.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Huckabee is worried. Sarah Palin has leapfrogged HIM. Maybe he thought he was McCain’s right flank pick, but he didn’t get it. Does anyone believe that Huck would have drawn 60,000 people at the Villiages in FLA, or 30,000 at Richmond International Raceway, VA? Would 70 million have tuned in for a Biden-Huck debate? I don’t think so.
This whole seniority disease in the Republican Party is part of the problem. There is always somebody saying it’s their turn, when they had plenty of chances before. If Huck wants to take down our Cuda, he’s gonna get his chance in the future. All I would say to him is, be careful what you wish for Huckster. You just might get it!
Brian1972 on November 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Right on. Another voice of reason.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I’ve loss so much respect for this guy with what he’s saying and doing right now. If he is a Christian he shouldn’t be saying this bull. For the good of the Party is the main reason he should keep his mouth shut. If Obama and Clinton can put on a good public face, why can’t this guy?
ChiTownPizza on November 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
May he grow boils on his sphincter.
Anybody but Huck 2012!
Laura in Maryland on November 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
ChiTownPizza on November 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Huckabee isn’t in this for the good of the nation or his party. He’s in it for fame and fortune. This helps him sell books. Maybe he thinks it will help the ratings for his show.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
BTW Huck is a Christian leader, so why argue about it?
Even his secular themed books sell like hot cakes at Christian bookstores and everything he says resounds in the Christian community—many do indeed look to him that way, so what fuss about it?
Again, hatred for Huck reveals true colors like nothing else—except hatred for Hannity. (hmm…..something with the H’s?)
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I don’t hate Hannity, I just feel bad for the guy having to hang around Huck now that they both work for Fox News. Then again, he already had to hang around Colmes, he’s probably used to it.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Do you need a screenshot, or are you satisfied with deception?
Thou shalt not bear false witness, jackass.
…and I’M the reprobate. *snicker*
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Huck admitted his envy–for sure Palin hit the sme nerve he hit in the primaries, but MUCH harder and better—she brought people in from everywhere–and Hucks crowd. Her reach is much deeper and farther.
And that’s what Huck was saying……..
….so what’s the fuss?
Romney haters and Huck haters are just….haters.
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Because of Sarah Palin’s example of walking the Christian walk without being overly judgemental of those who choose not to, a BIG portion of Huckabee’s assumed base of Christian voters jumped to her side and have not backed down. That baby Trig really touched the hearts of most pro-life voters in a way Huck never could.
By the way, Sarah will stick it to him on his record as Governor. State budget growth and raising taxes will be her ammo. Remember Huckster, she’s a good shot, you betcha!
Brian1972 on November 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Huckabee was tax-happy as governor of Arkansas and wanted to punish people for certain behaviors with taxes. That is pure liberal behavior, not conservative.
So get your facts straight.
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Uh oh, I think you’re going to lose your new admirer for defending Romney instead of just Huckabee.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I rooted for Hunter. Plus, I assume you hate Hillary.
Finished?
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:35 PM
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Well, he may have wanted to punish smokers, but on the other hand, he didn’t want to punish violent criminals…
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:35 PM
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:35 PM
In a better world, it would be President Hunter.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
The definition of Christian does not come from the dictionary, okay. The definition of Christian is found in the Holy Bible. And Mormons do not fit that definition. Mormons only believe that Jesus is “a god,” not God Almighty. That is not taught in the bible. WHY DIDN’T YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ROMNEY BEING A PHONY CHRISTIAN?????
WRONG AGAIN! Neither is an angel, but as a Mormon, Romney believe the Devil and the Creator Himself Jesus Christ and are brothers. WHY DIDN’T YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ROMNEY BEING A PHONY CHRISTIAN?????
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Rudy-liberal
Mitt- RINO with Johnny Come lately Conservative principles
McCain-RINO
Fred-Conservativ-ish great candidate–when he was awake
Huck-conservative (but attacked ruthlessly by the 4 above for not being “one of us/them. “)
And yet Huck stayed longest, won the most votes etc. of all but McCain (thanks to Fred causing him to lose SC–otherwise–different story)
…..if not for Palin this last election wouldve been a 1984 landslide for Obambi——-
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
I’m not so sure they would have, once she got going. She has charisma that none of the guys in the field had or have, and charisma counts for lots. I don’t hate Huckabee or Romney or any of the other would-be candidates in far-off 2012. I don’t get this fawning over proven losers, though.
ddrintn on November 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Huck did raise taxes, and he explained it by saying it was for roads and infrastructure development. I’ll tell you, my mom’s sister lives in Searcy, AR and we go there for the holidays the last couple of years. Arkansas has some of the most run down highways I’ve ever been on (except Detroit). They need lots of work. He was Governor for what, 12 years? Not much progress to show for the higher taxes. State taxes and budgeting is Sarah Palin red meat. She’ll tear him up in a debate on that.
Brian1972 on November 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Huckabee was the consistant conservative, not Romney.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM
How true it is.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
As a Mormon, Romney believes all of God’s creation are brothers and sisters. However, at least now we get to your real reason for opposing Romney. The dictionary definition is good enough for me in this case, because that means Romney is not lying when he says he’s a Christian, he’s just not using the definition you would use. I’m not basing my vote on religion. If I were, I would still have much better people to choose from than that shady sleazebag Mike Huckabee.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Sorry, nothing personal, but discussions like that make the Democrats look good.
ddrintn on November 19, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Romney was no consistent conservative, but neither was Huckabee. So quit lying: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/02/huckabees-liberal-problem/
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
That’s because he’s the equivalent of the doomsday shouter on a soapbox with a sandwich board and a bell.
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I know. That’s what I said. Prove me wrong.
Copyright © 2008 Anti-Hellbound-Task-Force
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:46 PM
My facts are plenty straight
Hucks smoking law was consistent with how he has governed and campaigned–it is within his views and not base don whats “popular”. This does not put him outside the camp of conservatism.
Compared to McCain and Romney he comes across as ultra conservative to most Americans.
And I give props where they are due to Romney on some issues for sure,its jsut that he didnt govern accordingto them whilst he was in office very much and gave no reason to believe he wasn’t just pandering to the base.
Fred had some social problems too. They all did. Huck just had less.
McCain had the MOST problems on BOTH sides (moral and fiscal) once Rudy was out and only survived because of Palin.
Did Republicans learn NOTHING form the last two elections?????
George W was elected because he was considered a conservative option!!!!
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Huckabee was the consistant conservative, not Romney.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Huckabee wasn’t consistent on illegal immigration, taxes, the Cuban embargo, the war on terror, or home-schooling. Romney flipped on abortion three years ago and moved a little to the right on gun control (from a B to an A by the NRA.) Not bad for a guy who had to get elected in Massachusetts.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Liar. You’re gonna be in big twubble some day.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Oh look. I can play Crazy 8s too.
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
It looks like we still need to boycott contributing to the RNC until they get the message that RINOs don’t win elections and that the landslides of 1980, 1984, and 1994 were not because the Republicans fielded solid moderate candidates who were advocating a softer version of statism.
What we need to do to win:
1) Boot the moderate wing of the party; RINOs don’t win. Why vote for Democrat-lite when you can have the real thing?
2) Stop the open primary nonsense. Why are we letting the opposition pick our candidates.
3) Start campaigning early, campaign vocally, and distinguish ourselves from the opposition. Thinking back on the election, can anyone point to any major disagreements in basic policy ideas between McCain and Obama? Global warming — nope, Immigration — nope, some form of government health care — nope. I don’t think McCain really cared whether he won or not, the policies he was advocating are going to be implemented — maybe a little more harshly, but still implemented. There was no reason to vote for McCain if you were one of the liberals who also believe in those issues.
4) Somehow, the Republicans need to establish a media presence. It may take an investment in a newspaper chain or other media outlet — but not to make it like the rest of the media. Don’t make this media outlet the Republican version of the rest of the media, make it a real media outlet, one that actually prints news (i.e. facts) on the news pages and opinion only on the editorial page. This will require either heavy editing of AP-Obama and Reuters or establishment of a real reporting pool. My guess is that an impartial news source would attract both liberal and conservative readers.
AZfederalist on November 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Huckabee’s candidacy was about:
-Protecting the 2nd Amendment.
-Fighting the war on terror.
-Deealing with Iran
-Protecting Israel
-Protecting traditional marriage.
-Introducing a plan to secure the border without amnesty
-Abolishing the IRS and institute the Fair Tax
-Cutting taxes and cut spending.
-He took the no new tax pledge.
-He is a life-long committed pro-life conservative.
Which one of those is bad?
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I don’t hate Huck, either. He is universally regarded as a very nice guy and I would be glad to have him for a friend or member of my church. And I’m a die-hard social republican who has no use whatsoever for RINOs. And I absolutely loathe country club elitism.
But based on my experience and observation, Huckabee would be a puppet as president, tricked, bamboozled, and run by whoever happened to have his ear at the time a decision needed to be made. There is a toughness required in an effective politician with which he just has not been blessed.
Venusian Visitor on November 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Huckie, you are a buffoon! You could never become the Repub nominee, but even if you somehow did, you know you’d never win the election because President Obama would be making TV ads showing your sick “”"JOKE”"” about him.
http://www.tmz.com/2008/05/17/huckabee-jokes-about-obama-assassination/
http://www.tmz.com/2008/05/18/huckabee-caught-in-tmzs-crosshairs/
Good-bye Huckie! Ain’t gonna miss you at all!
Shelby on November 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
That’s because he’s the equivalent of the doomsday shouter on a soapbox with a sandwich board and a
belltin foil hat.MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Fixed it for you.
Laura in Maryland on November 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
And bonafide conservative Duncan Hunter endorsed Mike Huckabee.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Uh, yes it does. As did his proposed fast food tax. And his move towards government-supplied health care. And his pardoning of convicted murderers. And his anti-borders stance.
All of it places him well out of the camp. Get the halo out of your eyes, because it’s no different than the one Obama fans have in theirs.
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Exactly.
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Ah, so some snark you just put out there, ignoring the facts, and other snark you run with as if it’s serious.
Man, the underside of that bridge must be hell on your back. Once you come out, you stay until you’ve exorcised the demons from the internet.
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM
apacalyps on November 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
He jumped on the Fair Tax bandwagon so he could use their presence at the Ames Straw Poll. He never said anything about it before then. He finally decided he was against illegal immigration in the last four or five months of the campaign. Its nice he took the no new tax pledge, I bet the people of Arkansas wish he had taken it as governor. He wanted to fight the war on terror Cumbaya style, and compared terrorist leaders to family members with whom we have arguments. That might sound nice, but its not reality.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:54 PM
No Huck halo here–I’m just calling the plays as they are.
Republicans lost this election – NOT conservatives.
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Oh, we’re in agreement there.
Just disagreeing about what conservatism means. As I recall, it’s not about open borders, socialized medicine, and taxes as behavior control. All of those are Huckabee’s bag.
MadisonConservative on November 19, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Republicans lost this election – NOT conservatives.
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:55 PM
We agree there. How that excuses Huckabee, I have no idea.
thecountofincognito on November 19, 2008 at 11:56 PM
BTW that Huck joke about Obama was a loooooow point 4sure.
Huck is by far the best communicator on the right….but “in the multitude of words there wanteth not for sin”
His show is great though and theres a reason why him and Joe the Plumber hit it off so well.
John The Baptist on November 19, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Ohhhmmmm. Ohhhmmmm
Wrong. Romney is not a true conservative. His record proves it. Flip flop and away.
So that is how you learn the definition of a Christian? Forget about the Bible, huh? Just look in the Dictionary? Just an American Dictionary? How about a Saudi Arabian Dictionary. Or an Iranian Dictionary? North Korean Dictionary? Tell me more.
Unbelievable.
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Because Huck wasn’t republican enough in the eyes of the elite—so he was hated on by all the others like none other—and still came out on top of all but one…because , and only because, he IS a conservative.
(not a perfect one, but at least, unlike the others, a REAL one)
and I am NOT a Huckster or Huck-aphile or whatever, I am just pointing out the obvious
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:00 AM
BTW I think it was you who pinted out how Huck moved away from the non conservative issues and toward the more conservative side—-okay for Mitt but not Mike?
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Wow. Accidentally catching Katie Couric on Letterman now………the worship of Obama is amazing.
We are in big trouble.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:02 AM
OK for Mike, but not Mitt? That was the point I was making.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM
For the record, by the way, I only hate Huckabee as a politician. I find him disingenuous, which, to be fair, is the mark of a determined politician, and I find him to be a joke since he claimed that god was responsible for his rise in polls.
However, by all accounts, I would be honored to break bread with this men. He seems like a nice guy, and he lives his life in an honorable way, as far as I know.
A guy can be a good man and a horrible policymaker at the same time.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
That’s because you are liars and hypocrites. You call Mike a phony Christian (he is not) yet, you keep silent when it comes to the real phony Mitt Romney. What the Mormons do is insult the intellectual integrity of Christians everywhere by insinuating that Mormonism and Christianity share the same philosophical tenets. And you clowns let them do it. You sick evil disgusting voters.
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Count
Ok , I see now.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I don’t define it by the dictionary, but Mitt Romney is not a liar for doing that. That was my point. I wouldn’t care if he were Jewish, why should I care if he’s Mormon? You accused me for not calling him out as a phony. Why, if he actually believes what he says in this matter? That’s not phony.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Huck plays the same card that Hillary did: if we played by rules other than the ones we had, I would have won.
Neither geared their campaigns to the rules in place, and neither won. Not that the strategy was bad…but someone else’s was better. In the end, not even Mitt’s money or Huck’s Army or America’s Mayor could overcome the GOP’s mania for picking the “my turn” candidate.
Not surprisingly, when we DON’T pick the “my turn” candidate, we win (Reagan over Bush 41 in ‘80, Bush 41 over Dole in ‘88, Bush 43 over McCain in 2000). The “whoah, who’s that?” candidate has to overcome natural GOP instincts just to get the nomination, and that wave tends to carry them through the November election.
The “my turn” candidate in 2012 would be Palin, if she runs. The anointed VP has that edge over the also-rans of the previous cycle’s primaries. That, and Palin has a crossover appeal that neither Romney nor Huckabee have.
sulla on November 20, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Mitt is a Mormon–not a Christian, agreed. Ask any older LDS and they will agree.
They qualify as a UNChristian cult by any Christian denominations definition.
However, many professing Christian politicians are far worse
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
What I cared about is if they share they same POLITICAL tenets, which they do. This was a POLITICAL election. Mitt wasn’t running for “Christian Leader,” There’s already someone much more qualified with that job, and His name isn’t Mike Huckabee.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Your definition of a Christian is only those who entirely agree with you, which makes you a religious fundamentalist with no respect for anyone. Your definition is an insult to this nation, which was founded for one primary reason: the right to worship as you choose, without threat of persecution. You would turn this country into a singular theocracy based on your views in a heartbeat, as you’ve already indicated.
You are, thankfully, one of the few true Christian fundamentalists. I guarantee you, if there is a god, he will not look kindly upon your pride, deceit, and greed for power.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Show me where, liar.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Sulla
Good points, all.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Huck is a very nice guy???!!! His petty and nasty side have been well reported (see Wikipedia as one resource).
I think his writing of the book “When Kids Kill” to make a fast buck despite the pleas of families affected by a tragic school shooting, is one example of Huckabee’s very greedy and opportunistic nature. It was blood money and Huckie kept it all for himself rather than assisting the families in any way! Nice going preacher-man!
God, he makes me SICK!
Huckabee’s Jonesboro book still rankles:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/26/nation/na-huckabee26
Shelby on November 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM
I like people who speak truth. You got style.
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM
sulla on November 20, 2008 at 12:07 AM
It sort of WAS Reagan’s turn in 1980, he came in second in 76, and ran before in 68.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM
whoa there….
Most Americans (for now) agree with our founding fathers that this was intended to be a CHRISTIAN nation.
The supreme court even said so–twice I think.
A move away from this is what has caused all these problems.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:12 AM
All Katie and Letterman seem to be able to talk about is Palin…..interesting…..
If Palin is up to the fight, I think she has the left terrified.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:13 AM
If you’d read Hucks book you would know that it was on the issue—–and he deserved to keep the money.
I thought you were a Capitalist???
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Really? Thomas Jefferson did? George Washington? Benjamin Franklin? James Madison? Those deists? Those readers of Paine’s “The Age of Reason” were only interested in this being a Christian nation?
Huh. Ever heard of “The Jefferson Bible”? Look it up. What a blasphemous child of Satan ol’ Jefferson was.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:17 AM
I have nothing against Huck making money, as long as he’s not throwing a monkey wrench in our primary to do it.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Spoken by? Drumroll please…founding father Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:20 AM
You are a total hypocrite. Focusing so much on smearing the real Christian Mike Huckabee and ignoring the phony one. I’m not even saying this is a theoligical debate. I’m saying that Romney is a person who professes Christian beliefs and opinions that he does not hold. And YOU didn’t say a single word about that misrepresentation.
Mormons who believe they are Christian are either deluded, or lying, which makes their judgment suspect.
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Jefferson was a Deist and I am indeed familir wiht his “Bible”–he denied the diety of Christ , but not that there was a God. Frankilin was the one who said they should start congress with prayer to God–he was also a Deist and friend to George Whitfield. As I said, the supreme court said so.
HOLY TRINITY CHURCH v. THE UNITED STATES
143 U.S. 457, 12 S.Ct. 511, 36 L.Ed. 226
February 29, 1892
“Under God” means something you know.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:21 AM
There are plenty of deluded people in the world. I don’t hold that against you for your Huck worship, why should I hold it against Mitt Romney?
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:23 AM
“No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national, because this is a religious people…This is a Christian nation.”
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:23 AM
So does “deist”. It specifically denies the divinity of Christ, including the virgin birth and the resurrection.
Therefore, how can they have intended a Christian nation when they themselves rejected Christ as being divine? The very definition of Christian is someone who believes that Christ was divine. How do you resolve that?
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:25 AM
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Also, smearing implies that the allegations are false. So you are smearing me about smearing Huckabee. You are also smearing me by calling me a hypocrite, at least on this matter. As I said, my vote wasn’t based on religious grounds, so who you consider to be the “real Christian” is off topic. There are thousands upon thousands of good Christians. That alone doesn’t qualify someone to be leader of the free world. Also, being deceptive and sleazy and taking things which don’t belong to you as the Governor of Arkansas is not being a good example of a Christian, whatever may be in his heart.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Jefferson was a true friend of the Christian faith.
He was a Diest but his “Biblke” (Which did include a few miracles) was commsioned to be given to the Indians as a missionary endeavor(!)
Nonetheless, Jefferson’s presidential acts would, if done today, send the ACLU marching into court. He signed legislation that gave land to Indian missionaries, put chaplains on the government payroll, and provided for the punishment of irreverent soldiers. He also sent Congress an Indian treaty that set aside money for a priest’s salary and for the construction of a church.
Most intriguing is the manner in which Jefferson dated an official document. Instead of “in the year of our Lord,” Jefferson used the phrase “in the year of our Lord Christ.”
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:27 AM
That was a Supreme Court Justice, not a founding father.
Clever of you to omit that little detail.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:27 AM
LOL. How can one man lie so much in one day? Here MadMan. This might interest you. You are too much.
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Biblke is supposed to read Bible
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Don’t worry, I think everyone realized that.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM
In Benjamin Franklin’s 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach “the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern.”
In 1787 when Franklin helped found Benjamin Franklin University, it was dedicated as “a nursery of religion and learning, built on Christ, the Cornerstone.”
Founding father enough for ya?
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Bravo!!! You are spot on in pointing out that huckabee is the messiah to his deluded followers. They absolutely are no different than Obama-The-Messiah’s people.
Shelby on November 20, 2008 at 12:29 AM
John Hancock:
• “In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
“A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775″
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Samuel Johnston:
• “It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans (Muslims), pagans, etc., may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves.
[Elliot’s Debates, Vol. IV, pp 198-199, Governor Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788 at the North Carolina Ratifying Convention]
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:30 AM
During his inauguration, George Washington took the oath as prescribed by the Constitution but added several religious components to that official ceremony. Before taking his oath of office, he summoned a Bible on which to take the oath, added the words “So help me God!” to the end of the oath, then leaned over and kissed the Bible.
“ It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”
“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.” [speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779]
“To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian” [May 2, 1778, at Valley Forge]
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Geez allah do we have to go through this Mormon hating thingey every time huck is mentioned?
It is so obvious, by his book, that he is so envious of Mitt he can’t even be reasonable about it. Even after the election is over he can’t let it go.
I don’t care if you don’t like Mitt, I don’t care if you don’t like his policies, but this incessant bashing because he believes all men & women are children of the same God gets to be real old.
It’s the same people over and over and over. No thanks for helping pass prop 8 in CA which they (the S Baptists I presume) supported.
No standing with you when your houses of worship are attacked (unlike the Catholics who are vocal about their support for the Mormons).
Just remember they came for the Mormons first and I suppose you know the rest of the story.
Bambi on November 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Reagan was my choice in 1980, no contest. But Reagan was the perpetual outsider, and a two-time (close, real close) loser. In 1968, Nixon was the senior statesman and former VP, who arguably had the 1960 presidency stolen out from under him. In 1976, Ford was the sitting President. In 1980, George H.W. Bush was the senior statesman in the race (former head of CIA, former head of RNC, former Ambassador to the UN and to China). Bush was the Beltway GOP choice. Reagan was the people’s choice. The people won.
That’s why I put Palin ahead of Romney and Huckabee – she made it on the final ballot where the two primary candidates didn’t. And she was far more popular with the GOP base than the guy on the top of her ticket.
sulla on November 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM
At the rate you are going you ingrate, you are not going to have any road into Heaven at all.
- God
MB4 on November 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM
I agree 100%
Huck is stuck where he is—which is fine…he is a greta mouthpiece for conservative principles, and Mitt would do better in a cabinet position or behind the scenes, but Palin energizes and excites.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:36 AM
sulla on November 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM
She was put there by the guy on the top of the ticket. I like Palin, don’t get me wrong. I may vote for her in the 2012 primary, depending on what happens between now and then. I still lean towards Mitt a bit at this point because I’m more familiar with him, I know his strengths and weaknesses as a candidate. However, I like a lot of the fresh crop coming down the pike, so we’ll see where that goes when the time comes.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Let Huck be the new Buchanen and let Mitt be a pretty face for our fiscal side—stop shooting our wounded (which is NOT what Huck was doing bTW) and get a REAL conservative to go at Obama next round!
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Maybe not in the interview, but certainly in his book.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Yes, Thomas Jefferson was a satanist…and so were several of the founding fathers.
So what?
The super majority of this country is Christian(80%).
Why should we be ruled by the enemy minority of this country and watch our country go down the tubes?
Now that the republican party is destroyed we should look to form a new party that will appeal to both republican and democrat Christians.
I’ve had it with the Republican party. There’s too many RINO’s,Liberals, NeoCons and rabid atheists controlling the party.
What is the point of allying with these lunatics if they get to dictate all our policies for us?
Besides that, what issues are they are allied with us on again?
SaintOlaf on November 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Thanks, JtB.
sulla on November 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
SaintOlaf on November 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Satanist…oh man! Its so great when Olaf comes in and breaks up the tension with comic relief.
thecountofincognito on November 20, 2008 at 12:41 AM
LOL. You use Wikedpedia as a reliable source of information? If you are just scrounging around for ideas, fine… but, Wikedpedia lets anonymous users add information it can’t be trusted. So many errors and false information has been found.
Is Wikipedia Reliable?
Wikipedia Co-Founder Seeks to Start Over
A false Wikipedia ‘biography’
apacalyps on November 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Apparently as long as we continue to have Huck-worshiping anti-Mormon fundamentalists posting, I think we do.
I definitely think Mitt would have had a far better shot than the guy who claimed god made his polls rise.
MadisonConservative on November 20, 2008 at 12:43 AM
We must get the American public to look past the glitter,
beyond the showmanship, to the reality, the hard substance
of things. And we’ll do it not so much with speeches that
bring people to their feet as with speeches that bring
people to their senses.
John The Baptist on November 20, 2008 at 12:43 AM
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