Good news: Canadian school deputizes RA’s to police students for political incorrectness
posted at 3:45 pm on November 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
A curveball from Weasel Zippers. I’m stunned. Since when do Canadians overreact to thoughtcrimes?
And on a university campus, no less.
I love the name: Facilitators. Bureaucratic, innocuous, yet vaguely menacing. Much like that Star Chamber office Ezra Levant was interviewed in.
Students at Queen’s University who sprinkle their dialogue with an assortment of “homo” or “retarded” could find out the hard way that not everyone finds their remarks acceptable.
The Kingston university has hired student facilitators to step in when they overhear homophobic slurs, remarks bashing women or racially tinged insults, along with an array of other language that could be deemed offensive…
“If people are having a conversation with offensive content and they’re doing it loud enough for a third person to hear it … it’s not private,” said Jason Laker, dean of student affairs at Queen’s…
“Having a program like this in place could stifle public discussion if people are worried their private conversations are being monitored,” said Angela Hickman, managing editor of the Queen’s Journal, a campus newspaper. “For a lot of people, their opinions get formed in conversations and so stifling that is dangerous.”
And if students feel uncomfortable about a “facilitator” butting in and getting in their face? “I would say it’s a beneficial tension,” says Laker. Provocative exit question: Isn’t this just the university’s version of blog comment moderation? Only now does the terrible possibility occur to me: Dude, am I O’Brien?
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My guess is that “dumbass white boy” probably won’t get reported.
BacaDog on November 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
This is sad — the administrators at Queen’s have obviously read 1984 and treated it as an instructional manual rather than a dystopic nightmare
Richard Romano on November 19, 2008 at 3:50 PM
At which point I’d throw in another epithet: fascist.
Kingston university administration is so gay and retarded.
rbj on November 19, 2008 at 3:50 PM
I won’t get nervous until you start a thread casually asking people to lay out their worst nightmares.
Slublog on November 19, 2008 at 3:50 PM
How long before we have this here….oh wait we already do.
NeoKong on November 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Canada sucks.
lodge on November 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Well… I’m not shocked in the least. My school takes off points if you don’t use “inclusive” language in your work.
thecollegepolitico on November 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
these RA’s are retarded and gay, what homos, cmon you idiots.
custer on November 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Where is John Galt?
Vashta.Nerada on November 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Indeed
thecollegepolitico on November 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Will the be filtering all possibly insulting things or just the acceptable PC ones?
Will the overweight, underheight, super tall and bean pole skinny be protected?
What about white folks? Is it o.k. to say they can’t jump/dance/sing? Or are we going to protect their feelings too?
If someone says, “F-ing Mormon Nazis”, will they be ‘facilitated’? If so, will it be because Canadians are worried about insulting Mormons or worried about offending Nazis?
If they heard my conversation with my friend yesterday where I said, “Boys are so dumb!” would that get me on their radar?
I love Mountain Dew and feel bad when people say it tastes like crap…..can I be protected from opinions on products and services as well or does it only extend to types of people?
They’re really going to need to make a handbook of acceptable opinions to make sure people don’t get in trouble.
JadeNYU on November 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Doesn’t surprise me.
Drywall lives there.
kingsjester on November 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
They won’t need a handbook. They’ll just know.
BacaDog on November 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
This proposal is retarded.
BKennedy on November 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
And here I thought that most colleges were modelled on Brave New World, not 1984. ;)
Illinidiva on November 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
That’s gay.
exception on November 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
I thought liberals weren’t fascists, though?
lorien1973 on November 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM
It’s progress, in leftie terms, of course.
facilitate
1. to make easier or less difficult; help forward (an action, a process, etc.): Careful planning facilitates any kind of work.
2. to assist the progress of (a person).
Some of you just don’t understand “hope” and “change”.
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM
lodge on November 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM
In a valley, or on a peak, in New Mexico.
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Does FIRE take cases from Canada?
davenp35 on November 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Oh, Canada.
patriette on November 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Come to think of it, I have seen “hired” help in the chat rooms…
RushBaby on November 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM
We don’t have one.
But no, this isn’t at all the same as blog comment moderators. As a blog, you’re posting everything we type and present the front of agreeing with whatever we post.
At the very least I would think the written word should be treated differently than those that are spoken, especially in casual conversation.
Esthier on November 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Universities pride themselves as being bastions of free speech. They can’t have both.
As an additional issue, this just shows that western education is in the final stages of liberal infestation. I don’t want 95% of educated individuals becoming hedonistic, arrogant politically liberal atheists/liberal christians(redundant, I know). I already feel pretty lonely when my english professor said McCain suggested Obama shouldn’t be president because he looks different and the rest of my class either nods or smirks approvingly.
Darth Executor on November 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM
The Canadians have queered the conversation.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM
John Galt has left the building.
sannhet on November 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Sadly, while Canda also ostensibly practices English common law, the basis for the American legal system, they do not have a codified and revered First Amendment.
BKennedy on November 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM
This isolated incident in Canada has frightening implications for us in America. We are approaching a crypto-Marxist state. It is only a matter of years.
crr6 on November 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
This is surprising given Ontario’s decision to segregate their schools on the basis of race.
KillerKane on November 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Sounds like a nice way for a ‘facilitator’ to get their face pushed in. Suppose I don’t want to be “facilitated”?
GarandFan on November 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I don’t know about Allahpundit being O’Brien, but I don’t see any Winston Smith’s around here.
WasatchMan on November 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Alphas are the Best. They are the smartest, most attractive…I’m practicing.
BiasedGirl on November 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM
So if you can’t call them “homo sapiens”, what do you call them?
“I don’t know dad, it seems the roof is leaking, looks like we have to “re tar dad”…busted…
right2bright on November 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM
They’re not.
Because they say they aren’t.
Kyle: “Isn’t that Fascism?”
Kyle’s Dad: “No, because we don’t call it Fascism.”
apollyonbob on November 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Yes… bastions of free speech, for example:
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on November 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM
There are only two things that you can’t have too much of, sex and free speech.
Murphy9 on November 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Apologies. I forgot the “nothing’s blogworthy unless it has vast, immediate repercussions” rule.
All viral videos are canceled until further notice.
Allahpundit on November 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
I would have to agree. Anyone wanting to horn in on my conversation, get in my face and facilitate me, well, I think I would have to facilitate them into the infirmary.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
…and his money has left, and continues to leave this country, in megasums.
Ignore the beginning at your peril. Liberals will not be exempted; au contraire, they consider you the dangerous intelligentsia, and get rif of you, literally.
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Sadly we do, which is why we should all support FIRE and its valiant efforts to stop this PC insanity on our campuses.
AZCoyote on November 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Have you tried Baja Blast Mountain Dew? It’s only sold at Taco Bell, but it’s worth trip even if you don’t like their food.
Then again, I was a Dewaholic in high school, so I could be biased.
Esthier on November 19, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Is the term ‘hoser’ frowned upon?
fogw on November 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM
This is the ugly side of multiculturalism and political correctness. This kind of atmosphere increases rather than decreases anymosity among groups. This does nothing to create an atmosphere of “tolerance”. These cultural Marxists are dangerous. Pure and simple.
DerKrieger on November 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
… or the university’s version of the Mutaween…
elgeneralisimo on November 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM
There’s no way you’re a beta. You’re far too witty.
Esthier on November 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I’m trying to locate wealthy Conservatives, like S. Truett Cathy of Chik-Fil-A, to fund a free, private middle and high school that will educate children following conservative principles and a traditional view of America.
Anyone know anyone who might be interested in countering public education?
DerKrieger on November 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Fascism at schools doth never prosper. Why? For if it prosper, none there dare call it fascism.
Tav on November 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM
This reminds me of a friend at school. He is an RA.
Last year, he dressed up as an Arab yelling ‘llahu Akbar on Halloween.
The thought police made him put up flyers for the LBGTA meetings on campus to make up for his politically incorrect sins.
Best part?
My RA friend is Iranian.
blatantblue on November 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM
So you take this with the same level of seriousness as a viral video? Well then I agree with you. Most of the commenters seem to see things differently though.
Thanks for validating my satire.
crr6 on November 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM
If I needed yet another reason to justify my leaving the country and moving south (I don’t, and I am) I could easily add this to my list.
Paradox Drive on November 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Facilitators, please use your own discretion. (Envisioning a dumpster full of dead facilitators.)
whitetop on November 19, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Queens (?) has found a way to become quintessentially pissant (accent second syllable).
whitetop on November 19, 2008 at 4:22 PM
“Orgy porgy Ford and fun kiss the girls and make them one.”
jellybelly on November 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM
He’s fat. That makes one beta by default (unfortunately), and very little can change that.
Darth Executor on November 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Is cracker on the list of no no dialogue? I’m betting not.
chicagoray on November 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Probably the commie vitamins they are forced to eat by their commie health care system. Damned Canadian commies! Death to Canada! Especially those ill advised kids trying to get their cruder cousins to quit referring to themselves and their friends as tards and homos loud enough that the actual tards and homo’s can hear them and feel slighted. It will fail of course, relax ya tards.:)
BL@KBIRD on November 19, 2008 at 4:29 PM
“The homo-geneity of this solution has been compromised due to the retarded flow of heat transfer energies inherent in the……”
“Uh, sorry professor, I’m afraid I’ll have to report you for your use of language..”
max1 on November 19, 2008 at 4:31 PM
That’s not true! I’m fat, and … well I’m in between talks with the Attractive Girl’s Union, but I’ve received assurances that negotations will restart … sometime soon.
Soonish.
Damn you.
apollyonbob on November 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM
HOW LONG before someone reports “O Canada!”?
And I quote:
“Sons”
VIOLATION!!!!
SlimyBill on November 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Why would retarded people be offended with being called “retarded”?
They’re retards! They don’t see it as an insult!!
YellowDawg on November 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Aw heck:
VIOLATION!!!!
SlimyBill on November 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM
More evidence that Canada DESERVES Quebec.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on November 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Not a chance. I’m not commenting on Allah’s appearance, cause I really have no idea, but I reject the idea that fat or even unattractive men are doomed to betaness.
Wintson Churchill, Diego Rivera, Benjamin Franklin, Rush Limbaugh, Orson Welles, King Henry, etc., these are all men who though being overweight had no problem getting women, in fact some of them had/have reputations of being womanizers.
Esthier on November 19, 2008 at 4:42 PM
This reminds me of the incident a few years back when someone in the Gov. used the word niggardly…one of the truly saddest episodes in political correctness ever.
right2bright on November 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM
If The Facilities = Restroom, then what do The Facilitators = ?
- The Cat
P.S. I’m envisioning a scene with two guys in a dorm. The door bursts open. “No one excepts The Queen’s Facilitators!”
MirCat on November 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Expects even
- The Cat
MirCat on November 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM
For years, the over-riding emphasis of frosh week planning for my Canadian university’s engineering-centred (though all-inclusive) frosh week has centred around how allow the new students to have fun without condoning explicitly offensive behaviour. It has become more and more difficult each year.
When I started at this university (Pre-9/11), we were taught that there were humorous stereotypes for every faculty (including our own) that were emphatically not true in the least, but were still acceptable to speak about.
I’ve since learned that any humorous comments during frosh week were likely to run awry of the least humorous people on the planet. Every year, the limitations on this frosh week were restricted more and more. It’s particularly sad that my university has the longest running independent engineering-oriented frosh week in Canada (if not North America), but that it’s under threat by the thought police of the university… :-S
There is nothing worse than cracking a joke on a canadian campus and having someone decide that it’s offensive to them, regardless of their race, religion, background, or age. I will gladly suffer a wide variety of jokes because I understand that they are exactly that – jokes in good faith. Anyone who decides that they will make fun of militant muslims or feminists will find that you have no free speech. You will suffer greatly and may or may not be expelled, depending on the mood of the university senate.
It’s a sad state of affairs, and I highly recommend anyone who thinks that free speech is alive outside of the USA to look up Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn and their respective encounters with the law up here…
The Human Rights Tribunals is the main reason that I would rather renounce my Canadian citizenship and become and American… My uncle (who has never regretted serving in the US Army during the Vietnam War) is probably the soundest voice on how badly things have gone in Canada since he left shortly before our socialized health care.
God bless America.
Canucker on November 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Have your fun. With me there’s nothing satirical, nor funny, about losing freedom/s. Unless you ever did, you really can’t claim to know. Your kind will eventually destroy all of us, with your idealism, Utopia and PC.
Here’s your latest mantra; embrace it “pirates are not terrorists; they’re just poor opportunists, taking from those who have too much”. Fate has brung you a good one. Make hay of it, while you can.
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I’m thinkin’ he is probably a facilitator. It fits.
a capella on November 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM
And if that “beneficial tension” results in the “facilitation” of a bloody nose…oh, well.
jackmac on November 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM
While I agree with you, what do all those men also have in common?
p.s. AP is also good looking.
p.p.s. “and very little can change that.” Darth Executor on November 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM
How about a diet?
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM
OK let me get this straight. Some nerdy geek is going to get into the face of some black gang when they start rapping “bitch, ho, and whitey”.
If you can get advance notice of this happening please let me know so I can get a good front row seat.
Jdripper on November 19, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Were it not for Henry I’d say talent. Were it not for Diego I’d say power. So power and/or talent.
You’ve met him?
Esthier on November 19, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I’ve tried all the other variations of Dew but haven’t found any I like better than the original.
My roommates brother is obsessed with Baja Blast Dew though.
I wonder why it’s exclusive to Taco Bell? Maybe it’s specially formulated to taste good with their food?
JadeNYU on November 19, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Smart man. I’ve bordered on obsessive with it myself.
I’ve wondered that myself, and it really bothers me. They even had this new promotion where they were considering three different new tastes and none were Baja Blast.
The original is good if you’re going to have more than one, but I just can’t do that any more like I could in high school when I used to drink them like some drink beer.
Esthier on November 19, 2008 at 5:09 PM
These fools have no idea what’s happening . . . it’s called, social indoctrination, brain washing, and reeducation. Germany’s Nazis couldn’t have done it better. This is really getting sickening. People had better fight back before their liberties are history and “1984″ becomes the epitome of democracy and freedom. I hoped I would never see this day.
rplat on November 19, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Is he robust? Or very pale?
At least we know he’s male!
Who is Allahpundit do tell?
Me sister says his breath is sweeter than an Irish rose
I’m sure you would fall in love if he would cross your path
La, yes, if you could overlook the warts upon his nose
And possibly persuade him he should take a bath!
Tav on November 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Every group has made fun of themselves and other groups since, well, as long as I can remember. My brother was SF and afterwards spent 30 years as a fireman, um, person. In both environments, people were made fun of to see if they could dish it right back. It was a way of determining if a person could handle things when the crap hit the fan.
rlwo2008 on November 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Thanks again!
crr6 on November 19, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Canada scares the crap out of me.
Once I read a book called “THEM: Adventures with Extremists.” One chapter was about a British man named David Icke. This guy is totally convinced that Earth is being taken over by extraterrestrial, shape-shifting lizards in human form, which include George W. Bush [*gasp*], Princess Diana, and Boxcar Willie. He lives in Canada now, where is is constantly harassed and many of his books are banned. Why? Because he is crazy? No. Evidently, according to the Canadian Politburo, “reptilian humanoid” is the new code-word for “Jew.”
I don’t believe in “reptilian humanoids” but I’ll stand up for his rights just as much as I would for mine. These people looking under rocks for racism are just as crazy and paranoid as David Icke.
Glenn Jericho on November 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM
You think thats bad,wait till you deal
with our herr’ School Bus Patrolers on
da buses!!haha.
canopfor on November 19, 2008 at 7:14 PM
So you’re fine with this? It doesn’t represent any kind of trend at all? The fact that so many American leftists point to Canada as an example is irrelevant and unrelated?
TheUnrepentantGeek on November 19, 2008 at 7:27 PM
The fundamental flaw of Canada is that it never has been a democratic nation, and is absent any meaningful Constitution. Compare and contrast the USA with the Dominion of Canada,
Canada,
Head of State – Queen of Canada – Unelected Foreigner
Head of Government – Gov Gen – Unelected Foreigner
Chief Executive – Prime Minister – Unelected – Appointed by the Queen
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces – Queen of Canada – Unelected Foreigner
Federal Senate – Senator – Unelected – Appointed by the Queen
House – MP – Directly and democratically elected
Head of State Provincial – Lieutenant Governor – Appointed by the Queen
Chief Executive Provincial – Premier – Appointed by the Queen
Provincial Senate – Senator – Appointed by the Queen
Provincial House - MPP – Directly and democratically elected
Inalienable Rights of Citizenry – Non-existent – Only the Queen fully and Titled nobles enjoy most of these rights.
Private Property (Real Property) – Only Titled nobles may actually hold land titles.
Power Flow God – Queen (Sovereign) – Government – People
USA
Head of State – President – Elected
Head of Government – President – Elected
Chief Executive – President – Elected
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces – President – Elected
Federal Senate – Senator – Elected
House – Congressman –Elected
Head of State ( State) – Governor – Elected
Chief Executive (State) – Governor – Elected
State Senate – Senator – Elected
State House – Elected
Inalienable Rights of Citizenry – Yes – Codified in the Constitution
Private Property (Real Property) – Yes –US citizens are sovereign and indeed enjoy inalienable rights to own title to land.
Power Flow God – Citizen (Sovereign) – Town – County – State – Federal Government
epluribusunum on November 19, 2008 at 7:49 PM
FUCK FUCKFUCKITY FUCKTARD CANADIANS.
do you have to have a IQ of 7 or less to get into this university? I really believe Jason Laker must be a total shiteating cockmaster to think like this. what a total ass reaming unclefucker.
Terrance and Phillip will soon be leaving Canada
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on November 19, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Someone should tell these homos that they’re being retarded Nazis and advise them to lay off the black coffee. For God’s sake, and for the greater good of mankind, before they develop chinks in their armor of credibility.
Ryan Gandy on November 19, 2008 at 8:15 PM
omg, look at this, If this ain’t a pole-puffing salad-tossing assreamer, I dont know what is.
http://www.queensu.ca/studentaffairs/about/laker.html
that would be the initiator of this plan…
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on November 19, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Free speech is not enshrined in Canada, as it is the states. Here, even comedians can be brought before Human Rights tribunals. Having a website that speaks poorly of islam, for example, like jihadwatch, is a crime in Canada. Canadian liberals codified a carte blanch legislation years ago that basically says that if someone, and they will determine who that is, has said something derogatory about race, color, religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation that person has committed a crime against the state. They call it “promoting hatred” against an “identifiable group”. In other words, hate is now a crime in Canada if expressed. It is such a insanely nebulous idea, even more vague in its definition, that to use it in a legal sense blasphemes all we understand about criminal jurisprudence. But by making it so nebulous, that can apply it whenever, and wherever, they desire.
keep the change on November 19, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I went to Queen’s for my MD and moved to the Lone Star State 30 years ago to avoid the national health system.
What is sad to me to see is that Queen’s was always one of the more conservative universities in Canada. It appears that they have gone over to the dark side.
I just pledged my annual support to them for 2008. I received the letter to send the check in with. I guess I’ll just copy APs higlighted section and tell them to stick it. No More Money from me.
txdoc on November 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM
That, AP, you will never know. If we choose to set you free when we have finished with you, and if you live to be ninety years old, still you will never learn whether the answer to that question is Yes or No. As long as you live it will be an unsolved riddle in your mind.
canadianrepublican on November 19, 2008 at 10:27 PM
epluribusunum
11 out 0f 13 wrong about Canadas political structure. You have the average American education, congratulations.
Are you a Muslim?
BL@KBIRD on November 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Illegitimi non carborundumm
LegendHasIt on November 20, 2008 at 12:34 AM
True. In the unpublished sequel, He was killed in a duel, by Ragnar Danneskjold … over Dagny.
But there are more people who are preparing their own little Galt’s Gulches than you would believe.
LegendHasIt on November 20, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Would Ragnar agree?
Perhaps.
Is it terrorism if you make the people in the smoke filled rooms…. behind the closed doors…. that line the halls of power… to fear, not death or pain from the pirate, but that the pirate / terrorist may not allow them to possess those things with which they bargain for their own power and wealth.
There are pirates; there are Pirates. And some are called, (and call themselves) pirates, who actually only keep the Looters from looting the ones that innovate, work and earn.
I’m pretty sure the ranks of those sort of Pirates are, in the very near future, going to swell to much greater numbers than those off the coast of Africa or on Wall Street.
LegendHasIt on November 20, 2008 at 1:26 AM
You mean our Prime Minister is/n democratically elected?
That’s news to me. I wonder what all that “election” nonsense was last month?
canadianrepublican on November 20, 2008 at 2:44 AM
What needs to happen for this to stop,, is a vast majority of students openly using “unlawful speech.” When they have to arrest half or more of their student body,, because of protesting students,, that is when it will come to an end. As long as the sheep keep bending over,, nothing will change.
JellyToast on November 20, 2008 at 8:00 AM
Ahem, I am a recovering Canadian, and am now a proud pistol packing American citizen. Education… Canada’s public school’s finest.
The Prime Minister is appointed by the Queen. The Queen often consults Parliament as to who they would like to see as PM, and tradition dictates that this person be the leader of the dominant party. This is only a tradition and is not codified in any Canadian law. The PM serves at the pleasure of the Queen. I know this is a bitter pill for Canucks to swallow but it is true.
When Canadians go to the election booth, the only federal position they vote on is for their MP (Congressman). The PM does not appear on the ballot. So before any Canadians insult any Americans over perceived value of their respective educations, show me a ballot with the PM on it.
No ballot, no democracy.
BTW, wrong on 11 of 13? BS, it’s all absolutely true and you are shocked as to how ignorant you actually are.
epluribusunum on November 20, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Some of us are already working on it, DerKrieger. We call it homeschooling.
Mrs. Happy Housewife on November 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM
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