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		<title>By: Mere Rhetoric</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-2/#comment-1683072</link>
		<dc:creator>Mere Rhetoric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Germany Keeping Iran Afloat Diplomatically And Economically...&lt;/strong&gt;

 Are they doing this on purpose? First top politicians feted Khatami in Germany despite the mullah&#039;s charming declaration that Israel is &quot;an old, incurable wound on the body of Islam, a wound that really possesses demonic, stinking, contagious blood....</description>
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<p> Are they doing this on purpose? First top politicians feted Khatami in Germany despite the mullah&#8217;s charming declaration that Israel is &#8220;an old, incurable wound on the body of Islam, a wound that really possesses demonic, stinking, contagious blood&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1671270</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Shiny happy dhimmi - #2...&lt;/strong&gt;

Last week I decided to start my own little blog carnival called Shiny Happy Dhimmi. Think of it as blogs to read while watching the crocodiles eat.* 1) If you dream it, it will still not be peace. 2) When the intolerant promote tolerance, there are lim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Shiny happy dhimmi &#8211; #2&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Last week I decided to start my own little blog carnival called Shiny Happy Dhimmi. Think of it as blogs to read while watching the crocodiles eat.* 1) If you dream it, it will still not be peace. 2) When the intolerant promote tolerance, there are lim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not be holding my breath for Bill Maher to declare the Koran a bunch of muslim fairy tales, and an HBO special describing how there could not possibly have been a guy named Muhammad who tied his horse up and ascended to heaven in the same place in Israel where other jewish fairy tales took place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not be holding my breath for Bill Maher to declare the Koran a bunch of muslim fairy tales, and an HBO special describing how there could not possibly have been a guy named Muhammad who tied his horse up and ascended to heaven in the same place in Israel where other jewish fairy tales took place.</p>
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		<title>By: joewm315</title>
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		<dc:creator>joewm315</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You on the other hand, “believe”.

kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
AND HE MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You on the other hand, “believe”.</p>
<p>kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>AND HE MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: darkpixel</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1662636</link>
		<dc:creator>darkpixel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;a href=&quot;http://danglinginvective.blogspot.com/2008/11/deadman-walking.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged about this on Monday&lt;/a&gt; under the heading Dead Man Walking.

We have not hear the last of this man... Surely his obituary will follow within a couple of years... and that will be followed by much hand-wringing and empty words about &quot;root causes&quot; and &quot;reaching out&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://danglinginvective.blogspot.com/2008/11/deadman-walking.html" rel="nofollow">blogged about this on Monday</a> under the heading Dead Man Walking.</p>
<p>We have not hear the last of this man&#8230; Surely his obituary will follow within a couple of years&#8230; and that will be followed by much hand-wringing and empty words about &#8220;root causes&#8221; and &#8220;reaching out&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Splicer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Splicer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this development is a great thing.  It means that Islam has or is developing the same type of conflicted religious leaders the Christian religion has developed. 
 
Take for example Ted Haggard.  He rallied for years if not longer against homosexuals only to finally admit he was and is one.  

Well, Mr. Kalisch has no doubt rallied against the infidel only to finally admit he is one.  

The only difference is that Mr. Kalisch will most likely not live as long as the former Reverand Haggard.  

This and the existence of the Secular Islamic Summit are good signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this development is a great thing.  It means that Islam has or is developing the same type of conflicted religious leaders the Christian religion has developed. </p>
<p>Take for example Ted Haggard.  He rallied for years if not longer against homosexuals only to finally admit he was and is one.  </p>
<p>Well, Mr. Kalisch has no doubt rallied against the infidel only to finally admit he is one.  </p>
<p>The only difference is that Mr. Kalisch will most likely not live as long as the former Reverand Haggard.  </p>
<p>This and the existence of the Secular Islamic Summit are good signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Splicer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1662263</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Splicer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Two cults of darkness: &lt;strike&gt;islam&lt;/strike&gt;Christianity and &lt;strike&gt;a&lt;/strike&gt;Atheism(You normally capitalize such things).

Without &lt;strike&gt;God&lt;/strike&gt; Allah, Anything Goes

Let’s roll.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow.  I knew it sounded familiar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Two cults of darkness: <strike>islam</strike>Christianity and <strike>a</strike>Atheism(You normally capitalize such things).</p>
<p>Without <strike>God</strike> Allah, Anything Goes</p>
<p>Let’s roll.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow.  I knew it sounded familiar.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Al Qur&#039;an&lt;/em&gt; =&lt;strong&gt; Mein Kampf&lt;/strong&gt;.

Except Adolf was not as inclined to pedophilia as 
Mohammad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Al Qur&#8217;an</em> =<strong> Mein Kampf</strong>.</p>
<p>Except Adolf was not as inclined to pedophilia as<br />
Mohammad.</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chessplayer on November 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM --

Cute.

No.  Quite funny.

As one of my Middle Eastern student friends said recently, &quot;If &quot;we&quot; could just develop a sense of humor like the rest of the world, things wouldn&#039;t always seem so bad.&quot;  This said as we sat around and watched another episode of &lt;em&gt;&quot;Little Mosque on the Prairie.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chessplayer on November 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM &#8211;</p>
<p>Cute.</p>
<p>No.  Quite funny.</p>
<p>As one of my Middle Eastern student friends said recently, &#8220;If &#8220;we&#8221; could just develop a sense of humor like the rest of the world, things wouldn&#8217;t always seem so bad.&#8221;  This said as we sat around and watched another episode of <em>&#8220;Little Mosque on the Prairie.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Chessplayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chessplayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of Course Muhammad existed – why he even has his own official website now:

 http://www.prophetmohammed.co.uk/index.html 

Muslims should check out his photo albums &amp; viewer gallery. 

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of Course Muhammad existed – why he even has his own official website now:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.prophetmohammed.co.uk/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.prophetmohammed.co.uk/index.html</a> </p>
<p>Muslims should check out his photo albums &amp; viewer gallery. </p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Crittenden &#187; AQ&#8217;s Race Card</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661903</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules Crittenden &#187; AQ&#8217;s Race Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Hot Air, German outreach to Muslims backfires. There&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ex-Democrat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661829</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two cults of darkness: islam and atheism.

&lt;em&gt;Without God, Anything Goes&lt;/em&gt;


Let&#039;s roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two cults of darkness: islam and atheism.</p>
<p><em>Without God, Anything Goes</em></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s roll.</p>
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		<title>By: albertpale</title>
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		<dc:creator>albertpale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and when will and how this whole rubbish end? 
sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and when will and how this whole rubbish end?<br />
sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: albertpale</title>
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		<dc:creator>albertpale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and when and how this whole rubbish will end? ban islam. cordon sanitaire. bomb, if necessary. don&#039;t send troops there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and when and how this whole rubbish will end? ban islam. cordon sanitaire. bomb, if necessary. don&#8217;t send troops there.</p>
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		<title>By: indythinker</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661647</link>
		<dc:creator>indythinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coldwarrior and others: 

Islam is a dead writ. It is never coming back. It can never be reformed. The happy gentle tolerant Muslims who seem to love &quot;the People of the Book&quot; are only like that because at the time they are like that &quot;The People of the Book&quot; have the power to kick their ass. As soon as the situation flips, Muslims force &quot;People of the Book&quot; to pay the jizya, convert, become dhimmis, or just be killed. And of course the pagans, Hindus, atheists, and Buddhists simply need to all be exterminated according to Islamic doctrine. The problem is not Wahhabism becoming dominant in Islam. The problem is that Wahhabism is in fact a more faithful interpretation of the devil&#039;s oh wait I mean Mohammed&#039;s doctrines then is its rivals. 

If Muslims fail to kill themselves before Islam goes the way of the pharaohs, hopefully the survivors will dig themselves out of the hole and join up with the rest of the human race in our post-Islamic world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coldwarrior and others: </p>
<p>Islam is a dead writ. It is never coming back. It can never be reformed. The happy gentle tolerant Muslims who seem to love &#8220;the People of the Book&#8221; are only like that because at the time they are like that &#8220;The People of the Book&#8221; have the power to kick their ass. As soon as the situation flips, Muslims force &#8220;People of the Book&#8221; to pay the jizya, convert, become dhimmis, or just be killed. And of course the pagans, Hindus, atheists, and Buddhists simply need to all be exterminated according to Islamic doctrine. The problem is not Wahhabism becoming dominant in Islam. The problem is that Wahhabism is in fact a more faithful interpretation of the devil&#8217;s oh wait I mean Mohammed&#8217;s doctrines then is its rivals. </p>
<p>If Muslims fail to kill themselves before Islam goes the way of the pharaohs, hopefully the survivors will dig themselves out of the hole and join up with the rest of the human race in our post-Islamic world.</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661494</link>
		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale in Atlanta on November 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM --

You are correct on your &quot;last&quot; German outreach program.

The Grand Mufti was a guest in Hitler&#039;s Berlin at least twice, and German/Nazi &quot;advisors&quot; worked across the Middle east (yes, almost like in the Indiana Jones movie) in effort to sway Moslems to oppose Britain, France and a larger allied effort.  Balfour being heeld as &quot;law&quot;, and Lawrence&#039;s efforts to unify the Arabs tossed in the waste bin by the British government, the Germans actually had a willing audience...except a few of those who suffered under the Ottomans. Those who supported the previous Ottomans seemed to rally to the German &quot;community outreach&quot; program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale in Atlanta on November 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM &#8211;</p>
<p>You are correct on your &#8220;last&#8221; German outreach program.</p>
<p>The Grand Mufti was a guest in Hitler&#8217;s Berlin at least twice, and German/Nazi &#8220;advisors&#8221; worked across the Middle east (yes, almost like in the Indiana Jones movie) in effort to sway Moslems to oppose Britain, France and a larger allied effort.  Balfour being heeld as &#8220;law&#8221;, and Lawrence&#8217;s efforts to unify the Arabs tossed in the waste bin by the British government, the Germans actually had a willing audience&#8230;except a few of those who suffered under the Ottomans. Those who supported the previous Ottomans seemed to rally to the German &#8220;community outreach&#8221; program.</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indythinker on November 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM --

Mohammed &quot;found&quot; the black stone?   Ummm, don&#039;t think that is correct.

The Kaaba &lt;a href=&quot;http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/kaaba.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in the center of the Grand Mosque&lt;/a&gt; in Mecca was there a long long time before Mohammed came around.

Did Mohammed exist?  Certainly enough circumstantial evidence to say &quot;yes&quot; with a high degree of certainty.  About the same degree of certainty to say &quot;yes&quot; to Christ walking the shores of Gallilee. 

But, the over all point, is that within the past 100 years Islam has found itself without the ability to challenge, question, historical or philospophical, and the rise of Wahabism has certainly made this nearly impossible, today.  If Westerners mock Christians for the &quot;belief&quot; that Christ walked the earth...with about the same circumstantial evidence as found in the origins of Mohammed, then why cannot these same Westerners mock Moslems in the same vein?

Not that I advocate mocking, but let&#039;s level the playground.  

There was a time, even within my own lifetime, when various sects of Islam appreciated and respected all &quot;people of the Book&quot; (Ahl al-Kitâb).  Thus faithful Jews and faithful Christians were treated somewhat more defferentially than they are now within the Islamic world.

Until Islam once again encourages their universities and religious centers to engage in debate as to all aspects of Islam, the Koran, and Sharia, they will screw themselves out of a healthy opportunity to get Islam back on the strait and narrow and protect and defend their Faith through living, not killing. The moment personal jihad became global jihad, the Wahabis won, and Islam lost.  Getting the genie back in the bottle...wonderful question for the 21st Century.  Are true believing Moslems across the globe up to the challenge?

[Question to the audience...have the murals showing the face of Mohammed in the frescos in a Damascus mosque been removed or are they still there? These were among the few known portrayals of Mohammed anywhere in the Islamic world for centuries.]

Muhammed Sven Kalish stepped over the line with his hypothesis that Mohammed did not exist...but, too many Moslems stepped well beyond the line when they accepted Wahabism and militant Islam (out of choice or fear) and have become exactly as the Western world today portrays them...children...either children out of control...or children too driven by fear to raise a unified voice of opposition to the hijacking of Islam by self-serving clerics and leaders who live very well (and often well outside the bounds of sharia) while the rest of the Faithful live (and die) as subservient slaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indythinker on November 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM &#8211;</p>
<p>Mohammed &#8220;found&#8221; the black stone?   Ummm, don&#8217;t think that is correct.</p>
<p>The Kaaba <a href="http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/kaaba.htm" rel="nofollow">in the center of the Grand Mosque</a> in Mecca was there a long long time before Mohammed came around.</p>
<p>Did Mohammed exist?  Certainly enough circumstantial evidence to say &#8220;yes&#8221; with a high degree of certainty.  About the same degree of certainty to say &#8220;yes&#8221; to Christ walking the shores of Gallilee. </p>
<p>But, the over all point, is that within the past 100 years Islam has found itself without the ability to challenge, question, historical or philospophical, and the rise of Wahabism has certainly made this nearly impossible, today.  If Westerners mock Christians for the &#8220;belief&#8221; that Christ walked the earth&#8230;with about the same circumstantial evidence as found in the origins of Mohammed, then why cannot these same Westerners mock Moslems in the same vein?</p>
<p>Not that I advocate mocking, but let&#8217;s level the playground.  </p>
<p>There was a time, even within my own lifetime, when various sects of Islam appreciated and respected all &#8220;people of the Book&#8221; (Ahl al-Kitâb).  Thus faithful Jews and faithful Christians were treated somewhat more defferentially than they are now within the Islamic world.</p>
<p>Until Islam once again encourages their universities and religious centers to engage in debate as to all aspects of Islam, the Koran, and Sharia, they will screw themselves out of a healthy opportunity to get Islam back on the strait and narrow and protect and defend their Faith through living, not killing. The moment personal jihad became global jihad, the Wahabis won, and Islam lost.  Getting the genie back in the bottle&#8230;wonderful question for the 21st Century.  Are true believing Moslems across the globe up to the challenge?</p>
<p>[Question to the audience...have the murals showing the face of Mohammed in the frescos in a Damascus mosque been removed or are they still there? These were among the few known portrayals of Mohammed anywhere in the Islamic world for centuries.]</p>
<p>Muhammed Sven Kalish stepped over the line with his hypothesis that Mohammed did not exist&#8230;but, too many Moslems stepped well beyond the line when they accepted Wahabism and militant Islam (out of choice or fear) and have become exactly as the Western world today portrays them&#8230;children&#8230;either children out of control&#8230;or children too driven by fear to raise a unified voice of opposition to the hijacking of Islam by self-serving clerics and leaders who live very well (and often well outside the bounds of sharia) while the rest of the Faithful live (and die) as subservient slaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Wine_N_Dine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wine_N_Dine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My question is what German passing as intelligent, perverts to Islam in the first place?

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Probably the same ones that were at the messiah&#039;s big show at Hitler&#039;s favorite memorial during the campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My question is what German passing as intelligent, perverts to Islam in the first place?</p>
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<p>Probably the same ones that were at the messiah&#8217;s big show at Hitler&#8217;s favorite memorial during the campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale in Atlanta</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661437</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, we don&#039;t need any more damn German &quot;outreach&quot; to the Muslims!

It was just such a German outreach to Muslims, starting in the 1830&#039;s, by the so-called &quot;German Orientalists&quot;; that jumpstarted the modern Jihadi Movement, after centuries of retreat and quiescence!

The German Orientalists, in order to outflank the British Empire, and cause trouble for them, started their &quot;Muslim Outreach&quot; in the 1830&#039;s; culminating during WWI with Kaiser Wilhelm wearing a Fez, and claiming to have converted to Islam, and claiming to have made the Haj to Mecca!

This gave a boost to Muslims worldwide, and helped revive the modern Salafiyah movement, gave impetous to the Deobandis as far away as Pakistan &amp; India, who used the fact that &quot;Germany had converted&quot; to Islam, as a rally cry for their Anti-British Jihads, and which culminated in Hitler&#039;s and Himmler&#039;s flirtation with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grand Mufti of Jeruselum (Arafat&#039;s older cousin); &lt;/a&gt;who eventually raised Muslim Troops in the Balkans to fight alongside the Third Reich, who helped Himmler plan the Holocaust, who was indicted by the Nueremberg Commission, but was &quot;allowed&quot; to escape by the British!

The ramifications of the German &quot;outreach&quot; have been felt for past 180 years; with MILLIONS if not Tens of MILLIONS of lives lost!

We do not need any more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, we don&#8217;t need any more damn German &#8220;outreach&#8221; to the Muslims!</p>
<p>It was just such a German outreach to Muslims, starting in the 1830&#8242;s, by the so-called &#8220;German Orientalists&#8221;; that jumpstarted the modern Jihadi Movement, after centuries of retreat and quiescence!</p>
<p>The German Orientalists, in order to outflank the British Empire, and cause trouble for them, started their &#8220;Muslim Outreach&#8221; in the 1830&#8242;s; culminating during WWI with Kaiser Wilhelm wearing a Fez, and claiming to have converted to Islam, and claiming to have made the Haj to Mecca!</p>
<p>This gave a boost to Muslims worldwide, and helped revive the modern Salafiyah movement, gave impetous to the Deobandis as far away as Pakistan &amp; India, who used the fact that &#8220;Germany had converted&#8221; to Islam, as a rally cry for their Anti-British Jihads, and which culminated in Hitler&#8217;s and Himmler&#8217;s flirtation with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni" rel="nofollow">Grand Mufti of Jeruselum (Arafat&#8217;s older cousin); </a>who eventually raised Muslim Troops in the Balkans to fight alongside the Third Reich, who helped Himmler plan the Holocaust, who was indicted by the Nueremberg Commission, but was &#8220;allowed&#8221; to escape by the British!</p>
<p>The ramifications of the German &#8220;outreach&#8221; have been felt for past 180 years; with MILLIONS if not Tens of MILLIONS of lives lost!</p>
<p>We do not need any more!</p>
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		<title>By: Noocyte</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661434</link>
		<dc:creator>Noocyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Pardon my inner Trekker, but the Kahless character appeared in an episode of The Original Series and an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. I’d say he’s pretty darn corporeal for a fictional character.

Kafir on November 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My personal theory is that it was Lincoln and Surak who were fictional.

&lt;em&gt;k&#039;PLAH&lt;/em&gt;!</description>
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<p>Kafir on November 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>My personal theory is that it was Lincoln and Surak who were fictional.</p>
<p><em>k&#8217;PLAH</em>!</p>
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		<title>By: SaintOlaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaintOlaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I, for the record, am a &lt;strike&gt;catholic&lt;/strike&gt; atheist turned &lt;strike&gt;athiest&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strong&gt;muslim&lt;/strong&gt;, and my lack of faith.. 
kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM &lt;/blockquote&gt;



The truth comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I, for the record, am a <strike>catholic</strike> atheist turned <strike>athiest</strike> <strong>muslim</strong>, and my lack of faith..<br />
kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM </p></blockquote>
<p>The truth comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: sdd</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661358</link>
		<dc:creator>sdd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Grow up&lt;/strong&gt;.

kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM

How is asking you to substantiate your belief an insult?

kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, beginning any discussion by telling your opposite number to &quot;grow up&quot; constitutes an insult.  The implication is that you are a patronizing dolt who is so cocksure of his opinion that no one else can possibly disagree unless they are uneducated pre-pubescent trailer trash.  The man believes what he believes through his faith.  You ask him to prove it and he can&#039;t...but then again, you can&#039;t produce incontrovertible evidence to refute his belief.  Yet you faithfully believe what you do.  Oh yes, you can produce evidence, yet so can he.  Your whole assertion is based upon you being the first to say, &quot;PROVE IT.&quot;  Not very scientific at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Grow up</strong>.</p>
<p>kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM</p>
<p>How is asking you to substantiate your belief an insult?</p>
<p>kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, beginning any discussion by telling your opposite number to &#8220;grow up&#8221; constitutes an insult.  The implication is that you are a patronizing dolt who is so cocksure of his opinion that no one else can possibly disagree unless they are uneducated pre-pubescent trailer trash.  The man believes what he believes through his faith.  You ask him to prove it and he can&#8217;t&#8230;but then again, you can&#8217;t produce incontrovertible evidence to refute his belief.  Yet you faithfully believe what you do.  Oh yes, you can produce evidence, yet so can he.  Your whole assertion is based upon you being the first to say, &#8220;PROVE IT.&#8221;  Not very scientific at all.</p>
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		<title>By: CyberCipher</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661355</link>
		<dc:creator>CyberCipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Somebody should ask Al Gore and Dr. Hansen about that…

hawksruleva on November 19, 2008 at 4:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Einstein actively solicited several astronomers in an effort to conduct the total eclipse experiments that proved his general theory of relativity (Edwards first in Washington state in 1918 - results inconclusive, Eddington in Africa in 1919 - results positive, and many astonomers in Australia in 1921 - results positive and conclusive).

My collie says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;By comparison, Al Gore and Dr. Hanson at NASA are snake oil salesmen. I like listening to Benny Hinn better -- I get more laughs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Somebody should ask Al Gore and Dr. Hansen about that…</p>
<p>hawksruleva on November 19, 2008 at 4:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Einstein actively solicited several astronomers in an effort to conduct the total eclipse experiments that proved his general theory of relativity (Edwards first in Washington state in 1918 &#8211; results inconclusive, Eddington in Africa in 1919 &#8211; results positive, and many astonomers in Australia in 1921 &#8211; results positive and conclusive).</p>
<p>My collie says:</p>
<blockquote><p>By comparison, Al Gore and Dr. Hanson at NASA are snake oil salesmen. I like listening to Benny Hinn better &#8212; I get more laughs.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: kkaneff79</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661353</link>
		<dc:creator>kkaneff79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Circ 1903…

Professor Einstein, we like your theory of relativity, and see that you believe in it fully.

kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Er… Einstein didn’t publish his special theory of relativity until 1905. Furthermore, he didn’t publish his general theory relativity until 1915, and even then, it wasn’t verified by experiments until 1919 and 1921.

My collie says:

No need to thank us for correcting you. Just bein’ neighborly — like Tony737.
Do you suppose this guy will ever get any of his “facts” straight?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you really want to split hairs, I never said anything about when the paper was published.  Clearly, there was some debate, discussion, etc prior to it being published, no? In any case, my argument is discredited because I didn&#039;t head over to wikipedia to verify the date Einstein published the theory of relativity while its a-ok to spout nonsense which piegeon-holes every muslim as a 12th century savage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Circ 1903…</p>
<p>Professor Einstein, we like your theory of relativity, and see that you believe in it fully.</p>
<p>kkaneff79 on November 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM<br />
Er… Einstein didn’t publish his special theory of relativity until 1905. Furthermore, he didn’t publish his general theory relativity until 1915, and even then, it wasn’t verified by experiments until 1919 and 1921.</p>
<p>My collie says:</p>
<p>No need to thank us for correcting you. Just bein’ neighborly — like Tony737.<br />
Do you suppose this guy will ever get any of his “facts” straight?
</p></blockquote>
<p>If you really want to split hairs, I never said anything about when the paper was published.  Clearly, there was some debate, discussion, etc prior to it being published, no? In any case, my argument is discredited because I didn&#8217;t head over to wikipedia to verify the date Einstein published the theory of relativity while its a-ok to spout nonsense which piegeon-holes every muslim as a 12th century savage?</p>
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		<title>By: JustTruth101</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/19/german-outreach-to-muslims-backfires/comment-page-1/#comment-1661333</link>
		<dc:creator>JustTruth101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muslims outraged?  I&#039;m shocked!</description>
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