Video: How Obama Got Elected; Update: Zogby confirms poll, denies “push polling”
posted at 7:57 am on November 18, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I’m sure we’ll all be linking to this video today. John Ziegler interviews Obama voters to gauge their knowledge of various issues that came up during the election, and gets very … entertaining results. His new website, How Obama Got Elected, marries this with a more disturbing report from Zogby that emphasizes a great deal of ignorance in the vote:
Let’s start with Zogby’s numbers. The poll surveyed over 500 self-professed Obama voters and has an MOE of 4.4%, with 55% having a college degree and over 90% having a high-school diploma. It asked 12 multiple-choice questions; only 2.4% got at least 11 correct. Only .5% got all them correct.
- 57.4 could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)
- 81.8 could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)
- 82.6 could NOT correctly say that Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)
- 88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)
- 56.1 % could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).And yet…..
- Only 13.7% failed to identify Palin as the person their party spent $150,000 in clothes on
- Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter
- And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her “house,” even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!
On the last point, though, Palin was the only candidate from Alaska. Palin did state that one could see Russia from the state as an answer to an interview question about her foreign-policy credentials. I don’t believe that the survey gave Fey as a choice, so Palin would have been the obvious answer from those provided.
However, the rest of these results show the abysmal state of media coverage of Barack Obama. It’s not that the voters couldn’t absorb data provided to them by the Tanning Bed Media; these voters quite obviously learned plenty about Sarah Palin. In the video, the subjects demonstrate that by assigning every stupid thing said on the campaign trail to Palin whether she said it or not. Meanwhile, no one can figure out what Barack Obama said, how he conducted his campaign, or his political history.
As for the video, without the Zogby poll, it would be hilarious but without context. Anyone can find fools for “man on the street” interviews; Jay Leno does it as a regular staple for the Tonight Show. Zogby’s poll shows that Ziegler’s video is no anomaly. Wait for the end, where the ignorant endorse their favorite media outlets, which is the real highlight of this project.
Update: Zogby confirms Ziegler’s numbers, and barks back at accusations of push-polling:
“We stand by the results our survey work on behalf of John Ziegler, as we stand by all of our work. We reject the notion that this was a push poll because it very simply wasn’t. It was a legitimate effort to test the knowledge of voters who cast ballots for Barack Obama in the Nov. 4 election. Push polls are a malicious effort to sway public opinion one way or the other, while message and knowledge testing is quite another effort of public opinion research that is legitimate inquiry and has value in the public square. In this case, the respondents were given a full range of responses and were not pressured or influenced to respond in one way or another. This poll was not designed to hurt anyone, which is obvious as it was conducted after the election. The client is free to draw his own conclusions about the research, as are bloggers and other members of society. But Zogby International is a neutral party in this matter. We were hired to test public opinion on a particular subject and with no ax to grind, that’s exactly what we did. We don’t have to agree or disagree with the questions, we simply ask them and provide the client with a fair and accurate set of data reflecting public opinion.” – John Zogby
I know some people wanted to see a link to confirm Zogby’s work, and here it is.
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justfine-no-thanks….
Thanks for providing a realtime example of “progressive” tactics.
dmann on November 18, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Ok, I’ll bite.
Who said this? No politician did. Oh, you did? Do you believe this? Ok, well I’m not to judge but I have a kids’ book at home with some pretty pictures, should I send it to you with a box of crayons?
According to him or me, no. But according to some muslims around the world, yes. Why? Some believe since Obama’s father is muslim, then according Islamic Law so is Obama. Was that why Biden was so sure we’d be attacked within 6 months after inauguration? GIRD YOUR LOINS!
There are some human beings who don’t act like human beings.
Ask the Obama voters who overwhelmingly voted for Prop 8.
If you’re 12 and registered by ACORN, yes. But only if you vote for The One.
pt on November 18, 2008 at 2:49 PM
The debate regarding who is fit to rule the republic is an old one. Thomas Jefferson argued that the masses were perfectly capable of ruling themselves, as long as they were properly educated. John Adams argued that education alone is not sufficient, but that a democratic-republic could ONLY remain functional if the people themselves remained a moral and upright people. (i.e. if the people are corrupt, no flavor of government will be adequate to rule the people.)
My collie says:
CyberCipher on November 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM
How about “Who accepted the most money from Freddie and Fanny?” Then again, these imbeciles don’t know the role of Libs’ corruption and book cooking, so what’s the point?
marklmail on November 18, 2008 at 2:58 PM
If this is the same poll-then the guy that conducted the poll was on Hannity and Colmes last night. I believe there were about 500 Obama idiots polled and he said that if any liberal could find a poll of McCain voters that are as uninformed, he would pay $13K.
I’m not sure if you HAVE to be a liberal, but by the jist of your posts, you should have no problem fitting the bill ;).
HornetSting on November 18, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Another “War Crime” by the Bush administration bites the dust.
New post up top revels that Obama will not pursue criminal investigations into interrogation techniques.(Obama administrators have already revealed that he is going to leave options open for intense interrogation techniques like
Bush did)
OOHHH MMMYYYYYY GODDDDD!!!!
How long did we hear liberals ranting and raving about the war crimes committed by Bush in Gitmo and the secret prisons.
Protest march after protest march with their orange suits,chains and abu ghraib hoods chanting “Bush is a terrorist,Bush tortures,Impeach the war criminal.
Now all will be forgiven because Obama is okay with it like
the NSA wiretapping and keeping troops in Iraq until the Iraqis can provide their own security(we will stand down when they can stand up).
The Pravda media will come to his defense by underreporting,leaving out the hypocritical contradictions
by liberals who will give Obama a pass,and portray Obama as being strong and decisive with adequate oversight.
Remember,it’s a war crime if a Republican does it.
It’s strong leadership if a democrat does it.
This sums up the democratic party right now:
Is This What It Means To Be An Obama “Progressive?”
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 04:05:15 PM EST
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/13/17515/4808
Bush was right.The Obama administration is showing that everyday with his acceptance of FISA,terrorist Interrogation,troops staying in Iraq,and the fact that the people who yelled the loudest for impeachment have had the power to do it for 2 years and have done nothing.
Don’t expect our Pravda MSM to point this out though,it’s not in line with their FDR,Lincoln,JFK, mold they have cast
Obama in.
Baxter Greene on November 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM
And some still wonder how Democraps were to friggin stupid to figure out the ballots in Florida
Irvin88 on November 18, 2008 at 3:20 PM
If there is one thing I have a problem with the so-called Republican intellegentsia, it was summarized by John Ziegler on Ed Morrissey’s program 15 minutes ago by saying:”We (Republicans) have been boxed into a silo…we think that we have been getting our message out on right-wing talk radio, Fox News, or Hot Air…is not true…especially for Obama voters…” Elites always assume they know more than the common man, except when it comes to capturing their vote.
technopeasant on November 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM
The phenomenon of Barack Obama winning is just too typical of the American Idol generation. People voted for the cool guy, the young guy, the most talented speaker…the fact that he is a big fat phony is beside the point. His supporters are too dumb to know the difference.
This just goes to show you that sometimes majorities make mistakes. And Obama is a mistake.
Terrye on November 18, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Here you go.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1641
cjs1943 on November 18, 2008 at 4:06 PM
pt:
Let me have a shot at answering those questions:
Did dinosaurs roam the earth with humans 6000 years ago?
Who said they did? Neither McCain or Palin so far as I know. Stupid question.
Is Barack Obama a muslim?
Why don’t you ask Hillary Clinton?
Are fertilized eggs human beings?
If they are not human life, then what are they? And who gets to decide?
Is sexual orientation a reason to discriminate against your fellow citizens?
I do not recall McCain or Palin calling for the descrimination of any Americans. But it seems the progressive Democratic voters of California ovewhelmingly reject the idea of same sex marriag. Are all progressives hypocrites?
Does the youth vote count?
Of course it does, but then again I am 57 years old and once upon a time I was the youth vote myself. The youth grow up. Better question: Does the military vote count?
Terrye on November 18, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Ok, Juliete baldilocks…
I re-read the comment and knowing that Obama’s middle name is Arabic took that as his meaning. He wasn’t clear and specific as he could’ve been and alas, he wasn’t alone.
Anywho…
Gohawgs on November 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Better question: Does the military vote count?
Sorry, Terrye. According to John Kerry, they all went to bad public schools and are only serving their country because they’re too dumb to know otherwise. No vote for them!
gippergal1984 on November 18, 2008 at 4:15 PM
This is news how? Obama is cult leader, not a politician.
Yakko77 on November 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Isn’t it interesting that we all are not supposed to mention that “Hussein” is Obama’s middle name, but Dems who fear Bobby Jindal are ALREADY referring to him as “Piyush” (his Punjab birth name) as if that’s supposed to mean something?
L.N. Smithee on November 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Boy, this thread has brought out the trolls. There are more trolls here than at a Lord of the Rings fanfest!
L.N. Smithee on November 18, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Heck, let me be the first to say it: Piyush for Prez!!
RegularJoe on November 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Fascinating info in the Zogby link:
54.9% of the 512 respondents had graduated college. A total of 80.4% of respondents had either graduated or had some college education. Consider the reality that 27% of the actual population has a college degree. This is a much more educated sample than the nation at large. Can you imagine what the results would be with a sample that more closely reflected the actual education levels of voters?
msmveritas on November 18, 2008 at 4:28 PM
matoko_chan wrote:
Ohhhh…so you’re one of the folks who turned on a dime, rejecting conservatism (however you define it) and embracing a man who was promoted by revolutionary socialists AND who has long believed in finding a way to force “wealth redistribution” on the nation despite his acknowledgment that the Founding Fathers never intended it.
Tell us all how that 180-degree spin happened, Matoko. Educate us. Tell us what we SHOULD see in him that we don’t.
L.N. Smithee on November 18, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Can you imagine what the results would be with a sample that more closely reflected the actual education levels of voters?
msmveritas on November 18, 2008 at 4:28 PM
How about a poll of voters who needed six years at five no-name colleges to finally complete a Journalism B.A.?!
benny shakar on November 18, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Bill Gates was less successful in college than someone “who needed six years at five no-name colleges to finally complete a Journalism B.A.”, but I doubt you would imply that he’s stupid.
capitalist piglet on November 18, 2008 at 4:50 PM
msmveritas — Don’t you think that people exaggerate their education levels? Of course this idiocy may explain The One’s ability to get the college vote. They are dolts who have listened to Jokers like Ayers for years.
No wonder The One wants reasonably priced college for all.
Has anyone seen the movie “Idiocracy”? Childish and silly, certainly, but it shows where this is going. And it is scary. But the black President was a real man and strong leader…
IlikedAUH2O on November 18, 2008 at 5:04 PM
I’m one of those annoying people who takes people by what they actually say rather than what I think they meant to say. Mjk had the chance to clear things up if there was a misunderstanding. He did not.
baldilocks on November 18, 2008 at 5:06 PM
“No-name colleges?”
If I were a mean, nasty, petty guy, I would say, “I guess the only time Benny has heard the word “Idaho” was when his mother was talking about herself.”
But I’m not a mean, nasty, petty guy. So I won’t say that.
L.N. Smithee on November 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM
What’s really sad is that none of these morons realize just how their uninformed vote harms not only the “opposition” but themselves, their friends, their family, their country…
And they probably don’t even care.
This is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen.
catmman on November 18, 2008 at 5:26 PM
O-what-happened-to-my-brain-Bama! I guess we don’t need our brains anymore. The government can make all the decisions. Just like my old country – CCCP. No need to think…
Sergei on November 18, 2008 at 5:26 PM
The STUPIDITY of OBAMA voters was clear to me prior to the ELECTION. I am vindicated. You Obama voters are such dupes.
Jamson64 on November 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Ohhhhh, I get it! Now it’s Blame Palin!
MSM sucks!
Acorn bites!
hussein swallows!
christene on November 18, 2008 at 5:45 PM
That’s one helluva rocket scientist-like analysis by Mr. Ziegler. Let me rephrase: “Duh”.
Rush and Hannity and Coulter and Fox (to a great extent), et al, ALL the Right talking heads are ALL talking…to the Right. That’s the demographic who tunes in to hear them. And no one tunes in unless they want to listen, which Obamacans and the vast majority of the Left do NOT. (AKA “preachin’ to the choir”.) How on EARTH does one extrapolate message spread based on numbers from what is essentially a captive audience? Wishful thinking?
Dang, dude.
Until the MSM pulls it’s head out of it’s a$$ and acts responsibly for the good of the NATION, not the CANDIDATE, Rush and the rest can yak the whole day long and it won’t matter one little bit. Because the people who really SHOULD hear the facts are the ones least likely to.
tree hugging sister on November 18, 2008 at 5:56 PM
as interesting as this poll is i’d like to see the same polling be done on McCain voters. Just to compare.
blackknightgt101 on November 18, 2008 at 6:26 PM
It certainly could, and probably should, be argued that reducing the federal voting age from 21 to 18 (about the time of the Vietnam War, I think) was a bad idea.
Then, it could be argued that the 19th Amendment was a bad idea, too. So far that has given us Clinton and Obambi, at least.
MrLynn on November 18, 2008 at 6:40 PM
Let us make a bet. The average McCain voter will score a 90% or better. You don’t think so many GOP types did not avoid public schools for a reason? You don’t think the Dems did not know what they were doing when they destroyed the schools and made so many people dependent on the state?
I wonder how much the supposed “intellectual” types that supported Obama liked his reversal on campaign funding, prosecution of GITMO interrogators, the reality that we will be in Iraq far later than the summer of 2010, Obama’s lust for Bin Laden’s head and continued war in Afghanistan,
the number of lobbyists in his transition team, changing his tune on the Cuban embargo, and now supporting crack downs on employers of illegals.
Jamson64 on November 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM
I believe Gore flunked out of college and super smart Kerry had a lower GPA than Bush.
I meet people with Ivy league and top rate college degrees all the time,I had one bring me and my family our food order
at the Long Horn the other night.
So benny,what is your point besides the fact you can’t address the issue at hand but try to denigrate someone like Palin who has actual accomplishments in her resume compared to the failed community organizer that you helped elect to continue the Bush policies idiots like you have been whinnying about for the last 8 years.
Baxter Greene on November 18, 2008 at 6:44 PM
I will take a Journalism B.A. in 10 years over your GED in 20.
Jamson64 on November 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM
or Does (we) count the military vote?
Red State State of Mind on November 18, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Ziegler waged a bet with Colmes last night. It cost him $13K to make the documentary. He bet Colmes he would give him $13K up front. However Colmes would double the bet back if the McCain voters did as bad as Obama using the same techniques. Colmes didn’t take him up on the offer, after trying to de-rail the entire premise of the video. That was a STFU moment, if ever I did see one.
Sergei on November 18, 2008 at 7:06 PM
By religious standards in the USA, he’s NOT muslim.
But by Islamic standards, Obama IS a muslim. This according to more than one muslim I’ve spoken with.
desertdweller on November 18, 2008 at 7:16 PM
When Obama first began addressing Palin & JTP’s characterizations of his “spread the wealth around” philosophy as “socialistic,” I had the feeling that Axholerod & Fluffe had done a poll on the word “socialistic” and found that their target audience didn’t know what it meant.
This, of course, allowed The One to redefine the word as
“[O]pportunity, and there’s nothin’ more American than that!”
L.N. Smithee on November 18, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Barack Hussein Obama is not a muslim.
It’s just more smoke and mirrors from Zbignew Brezinsky and his leftist allies in the intelligence agencies.
In reality he is a true believer in the NWO…a luciferianist.
SaintOlaf on November 18, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Wisdom from the past revisited on the present. Choice in education needs to be the bedrock of the republican/conservative agenda.
BFBurke on November 18, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Sorry if it’s already been mentioned (haven’t read through all responses), but the respondents knew just what the MSM wanted them to know. No surprise, really.
ddrintn on November 18, 2008 at 7:29 PM
I’d bet they’re probably as ignorant as those in the Zogby poll. Maybe willfully so. The natural consequence of following only Wapo, NYT, Huffington Post and Daily Kos.
ddrintn on November 18, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Hmmm post graduate. You mean those guys that stay in school never run a business and mooch off a mom and dad til they get tired of the bums? those types? Perfect Dems.
Hell half of them likely thought the GOP ran Congress.
Jamson64 on November 18, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Obama applied for the job for nearly two years, and I’ve yet to see a friggin’ birth certificate, college transcript, thesis, list of legal clients…
ddrintn on November 18, 2008 at 7:43 PM
endorsed by louis farakhan and the nation of islam!!! nuff said!!! the messiah!!!
gringo69 on November 18, 2008 at 7:49 PM
An uninformed electorate dooms a country. Prepare for the big letdown, Obamatrons.
Princeps on November 18, 2008 at 8:16 PM
This documentary sounds exactly like a lesson I did with my 8th grade students the day after the election and then published as a column in New Hampshire and Maine newspapers, as well as on various websites like Accuracy in Media.
Tom McLaughlin on November 18, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Yeah, “Duuhhhh, he’s gonna pay my mortgage, fill my gas tank, pay my medical bills and still send me a tax-break check! If that’s sociabilism, I’m all for it!”
ddrintn on November 18, 2008 at 8:35 PM
You can bet the media is well aware of hussein & his back ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzyuiSUiuQ
christene on November 18, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Good Read.
christene on November 18, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Musta bin those northun collej types that got all them correct.
peski on November 18, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Barack Hussein Obama (nee Barry Soetoro), aka “Zero” will surely give us lots of entertainment, and little else, for the next few years.
desertdweller on November 18, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Government school compulsory education at it’s finest.
rockhead on November 18, 2008 at 8:59 PM
This is truly voter fraud.
SouthernGent on November 18, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Yeah, that really killed McCain. As much as the media acting as Obama’s press office hurt, I think letting Obama claim he was going to give everyone, everything they wanted, and make *someone else* pay for it without challenging him, won over the stupid independent vote.
18-1 on November 18, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Don’t forget the lawyers and doctors.
This Ph.D. proudly voted for Palin & McCain.
Y-not on November 18, 2008 at 9:18 PM
They come here!
I asked the same type questions to people that said they voted McSame. They were just as clueless. Where is the counter poll? If there is one, you won’t see it mentioned here. HA has an agenda. Here are some important stories that you didn’t see here because of that agenda.
Why the rich voted for Obama
Iran’s judiciary chief lauds U.S.-Iraqi pact
Abramoff said he had agreement with White House aide just a month after Bush took office
Chimpy on November 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM
But that real sad part is this: These are the smart Obama supporters. They actually answered questions without immediately blurting out “Change” or “Yes We Can”.
TechieNotTrekkie on November 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Is that why you’re here too, then? At least we know which party controls Congress.
Face it: the typical Obama voter isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. We have data now.
ddrintn on November 18, 2008 at 9:29 PM
These questions sound very familiar to a survey conducted by UPenn about the election. I took that phone survey (which consisted of campaign knowledge and basic civics) and it will be interesting to see those results. They asked the same type of questions like who controlled the house, who was responsible for the economic crisis and the candidate´s tax plan. I didn´t know much about the tax plans of McCain because to me it seemed like he never gave specifics (like the infamous 95 per cent mantra Obama always boasted).
I am guessing that the results will be surprisingly similar to what these braindead voters have said.
Multibucket on November 18, 2008 at 9:49 PM
I visit to find out what the chuckle heads are up to.
Chimpy on November 18, 2008 at 9:52 PM
I don’t usually respond to the trolls, but I’m feeling irked in general, so why not. I’m sure these are meant to be quite the zingers, but to answer them in order: No, no, no, no, and yes (and with Acorn’s help, possibly even more than once).
I’ll admit, though, that I consider the last one unfortunate. At the time the voting age was stipulated by the Constitution, 18 year olds were functional adults. Today, the majority are little more than adolescents with fully-developed genitals and little to no sense of responsibility. If they can’t be trusted to drink, they shouldn’t be trusted to play a role in determining the fate of the (for now, at least) most powerful nation on the face of the Earth. However, unlike the political left, I can’t pretend illiteracy simply to justify my political stance on the matter. Rather, I’d suggest a constitutional amendment to raise the voting age to 21–though I don’t have any expectation this will happen.
Blacklake on November 18, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Chimpy on November 18, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Be honest, you come here to fling poo!
dmann on November 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
1 poll aimed at a specific group excluding the opposite group?? Plus, almost everyone here don’t believe polls anyway. Right guys and gals? Search for polls in the archives and read the comments. That’s why this thread and comments are an amazing 180. Thanks for the laughs.
Chimpy on November 18, 2008 at 10:15 PM
A typical speciesism, stereotypical statement. :>)
Chimpy on November 18, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Fantastic seeing the breadth, understanding, and intelligence of Obama’s supporters! He must be real proud of them.
thetowncrier on November 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM
One of the common themes that everyone seems to refer to is the abysmal state of education today. As an educator I agree with this sentiment. I find it hard to put into words my frustrations with some of the conversations that I have had with other teachers. However, there are some points that I think must be taken into consideration.
1) Believe it or not there are some good, knowledge-based, conservative teachers in the public schools. The majority of my classes are biology and I have the satisfaction that each year I can show about 100 students the multiple fallacies with the global warming myth. I have a good friend who teacher civics and economics and he constantly drills into his students that the reason that America is the greatest country is due to the foresight of the founding fathers in setting up our government.
2) Another commenter stated that our education system needed more conservatives. I wholeheartedly agree with this but people need to understand how incredibly hard it is to sit in education classes for two years listening to ultraliberal professors. When I decided to get my teaching certificate I took as few of the education classes as possible and still get my certificate.
3) School choice is great and I would love to see a nationwide voucher system but the pay for teachers in private schools is incredibly low. I just cannot support my family with the pay that I would receive from a private school.
At this point I do not see how this country can get itself out of this mess. I just pray that someone smarter than me can figure out how to get our country out of this downward spiral before my children are left with a third-world country.
dawgyear on November 18, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Gohawgs
“and knowing that Obama’s middle name is Arabic took that as his meaning”
It’s real not fair to hold someone responsible for what their parents named them.
Just ask that boy named Sue
DSchoen on November 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM
It really must suck to be you having to bounce around to conservative websites you little ankle biter.
Glynn on November 18, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I take it though that you do believe polls, and put quite a bit of faith in them during the campaign, but choose no doubt to dismiss this one. It cuts both ways.
Obama voters are morons. New meme.
ddrintn on November 18, 2008 at 11:35 PM
It wasn’t a poll dumbass. It was an interview. Of course being a Libtard I don’t expect you to think deep enough to know the difference.
Reading is fundamental to comprehension of the subject at hand.
Guardian on November 19, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Well, either way, it shows the penetrating brilliance of minds saturated with NBC News and Oprah. Obama’s tapped into that powerful, well-informed demographic.
ddrintn on November 19, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Nice name.
Johan Klaus on November 19, 2008 at 12:53 AM
DSchoen on November 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM
DSchoen, unless you went back to the original comment in question on page 1 and then followed baldilocks and my conversation, you missed the point…plus, Johnny was foolin’
baldilocks, I think you scared mjk off with your first response cuz I haven’t seen him make another comment on this thread.
Gohawgs on November 19, 2008 at 1:28 AM
The gameplan of the Left – Dumb-Down the people so they can be indoctrinated into being their little worker bees, with their chosen elites on top, running things. This is why the Democratically run schools are a failure. Looks like the plan is working.
DL13 on November 19, 2008 at 1:39 AM
LOL. My brother brought “Idiocracy” over for me to watch…he said it was a documentary.
nyrofan on November 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Does anyone in their right mind deny that the media is miles beyond biased to the left? Most media is just a propaganda tool for the left.
With this and Howard Stern asking people why they support Obama with McCain’s platform and Palin as Obama’s V.P., it farther show Lennin was right about useful idiots.
nelsonknows on November 19, 2008 at 5:54 AM
Invoking God’s Law here.
;]
soundingboard on November 19, 2008 at 6:18 AM
Let’s find a reasonable middle ground here:
If anyone truly believes that John Ziegler is lying about having paid for Zogby International to conduct a phone survey of likely voters for the documentary, then call the Zogby offices in DC at 1-877-462-7655 and tell them that a Rethuglican website called http://www.howobamagotelected.com is falsifying Zogby data to further their wacky Christianist anti-thinking agenda.
If that accusation holds up, then Zogby (a established and well-respected polling firm that would not allow anyone to use their trademarked name without permission) will immediately issue a press release setting the record straight on their website, Ziegler will be discredited, and everyone on this website that was pumping their fists in anger about his documentary will be exposed as gullible fools.
However, if Zogby doesn’t do that then you who have questioned the polling data that Ziegler paid will be exposed as hive-minded thralls who hide their ignorance behind a reflexive cynicism of any information that doesn’t fit your agenda.
Sounds fair? Great! Thanks and let us know how your call to Zogby goes ASAFP.
ScottMcC on November 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Does this mean that you will admit to the wacky, idiot leftists looking the other way for Ayers, anti-American ministers, bad real estate deals ect, to get Obama elected?
No.. I didn’t think so.
Noelie on November 19, 2008 at 8:01 AM
Questions for McCain/Palin voters.
Did dinosaurs roam the earth with humans 6000 years ago?
Is Barack Obama a muslim?
Are fertilized eggs human beings?
Is sexual orientation a reason to discriminate against your fellow citizens?
Does the youth vote count?
And also, all the other questions.
Neither side has a lock on ignorance and stupidity
Noelie on November 19, 2008 at 8:37 AM
Whooops.. I was going to say those are the dumbest set of questions I have ever seen in my life. What a straw man of idiocy.
Noelie on November 19, 2008 at 8:37 AM
Well….it is a push poll, designed to push the meme that media bias cost McCain/Palin the election.
There is no experimental design, no null hypothesis, and some questions were illformed, like the question about Palin and Russia which actually has no correct answer.
So the only results that can be drawn are anecdotal.
This is a fine anecdotal documentary effort, but Zogby cannot say anything statistically significant about results, because they didn’t practice statistical polling techniques.
This peer with a Michael Moore documentary….there are no statistical results, only anectdotal ones.
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:11 AM
“NS: What did Zogby charge you — what did you pay for this survey?
JZ: I’m not going to tell you that, I’m not a fucking idiot.” I disagree.
“By the end, Ziegler is simply hostile — not to mention thoroughly convinced that his bullshit don’t stink:”
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/interview-with-john-ziegler-on-zogby.html
Hilarious.
getalife on November 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM
poppycock…
jerrytbg on November 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM
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