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There was no “reversal”

posted at 11:50 am on November 18, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Washington Post continues a rather dishonest meme regarding the status of forces agreement (SOFA) with Iraq in today’s edition.  They claim that an agreement on withdrawal contradicts “years of promises” to refuse to leave Iraq based on timelines alone.  The Post completely ignores the context of those promises and the changed conditions in Iraq:

By agreeing to a fixed deadline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, President Bush contradicted years of promises that he would never agree to anything but a “conditions-based” plan for phasing out the American military role there. But he may also have given President-elect Barack Obama more flexibility in fulfilling his campaign promise to bring the troops home.

Obama pledged during the campaign to withdraw the remaining U.S. combat troops in 16 months, at roughly the rate of one combat brigade a month. The plan tentatively approved in Baghdad yesterday would essentially give Obama until the end of 2011 to pull out all U.S. forces, while also putting the imprimatur of the Bush administration on the idea that there needs to be an ironclad deadline for troop removal.

“It greatly eases the pressure on [Obama] to meet a fixed abstract schedule for U.S. withdrawals,” said Anthony H. Cordesman, an expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

This is unadulterated hogwash.  Bush repeatedly vowed not to withdraw from Iraq until the violence dwindled to levels that Iraq can handle on its own.  We’ve already all but arrived at that point.  The Iraqi Army and its national police have been handling primary security duties for months, and took back control of militia-held areas on their own initiative earlier this year.  In three years — the length of the SOFA — the Iraqis will be able to seal their own borders and defend themselves from assault from both within and without Iraq.

Signing the SOFA doesn’t reverse anything.  We’ve won the war, and we’ve finally won the peace.  Now we’re negotiating future relations with a sovereign democratic ally.

The Post also indulges in another misleading point along these same lines:

In at least one respect, the timeline may complicate what Obama had proposed on the campaign trail: leaving a residual force in Iraq to protect U.S. officials and conduct counter-terrorism operations after the withdrawal of all combat troops. The agreement makes clear that the U.S. government would need approval from the Iraqis if a residual force is to remain beyond Dec. 31, 2011.

Perhaps Michael Abramowitz doesn’t realize this, but the US needs official approval for the forces to remain in Iraq starting on January 1, and needed it implicitly since Iraq held its first constitutional elections.  We’re there under the UN mandate that the Iraqi government supported through several years.  Had the Iraqis demanded that we leave during this period, we would have left.  Even if we were inclined to ignore the sovereign government in Baghdad, the UN would almost certainly have withdrawn its mandate.  This entire paragraph is completely pointless.

If Obama wants to extend a military presence in Iraq, he can negotiate that with the Iraqis, the same as Bush would have had to do, or John McCain had he won the election.  At this moment, the Iraqis want us out entirely, but that may change as 2012 grows nearer.  They may want us to help provide air cover as they rebuild their air force, or provide other military assistance if Iran gets too menacing.  In any case, that was always subject to more negotiation, and the SOFA doesn’t impede any future options at all.

The Post has supported the war, but they still seem to have difficulty understanding it.  There is a vast difference between retreating from one’s enemies and returning after the war has been won.  That was George Bush’s point all along, and this article shows that it still hasn’t been learned.


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Lie. Rinse. Repeat.

manwithblackhat on November 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Victory brings out strange analysis.

tarpon on November 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Nothing going right in Iraq. Nothing going right in Alaska. Just another day at the WaPo …

GoHskrs on November 18, 2008 at 11:57 AM

In other words, the WaPo is unhappy with the term ‘victory’ and they’re trying very hard to make it go away.

AubieJon on November 18, 2008 at 11:58 AM

they are writing history, not ‘news’ articles in their minds.

jp on November 18, 2008 at 11:59 AM

WaPo: Just extending the “Booosh Lied!” meme that little bit farther.

wearyman on November 18, 2008 at 11:59 AM

manwithblackhat on November 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM

LOL !!!

D2Boston on November 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM

It’ll be this way until the one arrives whereas he’ll improve our standing by following Bush and Iraq’s plan and all the credit will go the Obama. Pathetic

Defector01 on November 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM

There is a vast difference between reporting the truth retreating from one’s enemies and returning after pretending the war has not been won. That was George Bush’s victory point all along, and this article shows that it still hasn’t been must not be acknowledged.

Fixed that to be even more accurate.

drunyan8315 on November 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM

SOFA lies?
Wasn’t that during Clintons years? LOL

johnnyU on November 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM

I’ll wait to see see the implementation of an immediate withdraw, time table and all.

moxie_neanderthal on November 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM

11-22-08
Victory in Iraq day.
http://www.zombietime.com/vi_day/

Abelard on November 18, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Bush’s agreement makes it harder for Obama to extend our stay in Iraq? Well now I have heard everything.

sammypants on November 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM

WaPo: We On Bush Lied

YellowDawg on November 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM

errr…

WaPo: We Won Bush Lied

YellowDawg on November 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM

The Post has supported the war, but they still seem to have difficulty understanding it.

The sheer volume of journalistic malpractice we have witnessed regarding every aspect of the war in Iraq is staggering.

Understanding requires at least a minimal degree of intellectual honesty, a genuine sense of curiosity and an openness to explore facts and opinions that may conflict with one’s own world view.

If they supported the war without understanding it they are more pathetic than I ever imagined.

Bruno Strozek on November 18, 2008 at 12:09 PM

In at least one respect, the timeline may complicate what Obama had proposed on the campaign trail: leaving a residual force in Iraq to protect U.S. officials and conduct counter-terrorism operations after the withdrawal of all combat troops. The agreement makes clear that the U.S. government would need approval from the Iraqis if a residual force is to remain beyond Dec. 31, 2011.

Gee, it is almost as though Iraq is an independent and sovereign nation.

Howard Kurtz’s one day mea culpa, trying to regain a shred of respectability back for the WaPo (& MSM) is gone for naught, as the Post once again quickly goes to bed with disease ridden lies.

rbj on November 18, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Unfortunately, no other news group will point their fingers at the others and call them out.
This is why the internet is tearing the journalist apart…because they can’t watch their own hen house.

right2bright on November 18, 2008 at 12:14 PM

We have yet to see the results of our involvement in Iraq.
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I am a conservative and I feel that Bush has betrayed any Conservative inclinations that he might have had. His blind belief in democracy led to the rise of Hamas. This same belief is leading to a radical Islamic regime in Iraq as much as we try to fool ourselves.
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Currently in Iraq, Christians are being killed for their religion without any significant protection. Iraq has long supported the illegal boycott of Israel.
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Sometimes difficult choices are necessary to protect your own people. He should have left Hussein in power to subjugate the radicals. This was bad for the Iraqis but what we have now is bad for America.

FactsofLife on November 18, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Useless swine.

Red Cloud on November 18, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Bush’s illegal war, UN mandated mission…which is it?

Which came first, MSM intellectual dishonesty or liberal/”progressive” intellectual dishonesty?

Gohawgs on November 18, 2008 at 12:17 PM

The WaPo’s head is spinning like Linda Blair’s head.

Kevin in Washington State on November 18, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Nice sleight of hand.

Bush vowed not to have timetables.

Is there a real timetable in that agreement? That’s the only real question related to any reversal.

mycowardice on November 18, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Let’s hope the history books are much kinder to President Bush than the media of today is. Even in victory, they have to smear him in one way or another.

However, because of the terrible way the President has been maligned over Iraq, there is hope. 5 or 10 years from now, if Iraq is a solid, stable democratic country, there are some on the left who will look back and say “he got it right. Despite all the crap in the media and from his opponents, President Bush got it right.” And they will become republicans.

I speak from personal experience. In the 1980s, I bought the line that President Reagan was going to get us in a nuclear war with Russia. After the fall of the soviet union, I looked back and realized that Reagan knew what he was doing all along and damn if he didn’t win. Looking at how he was demonized during his time in office, I came to understand his genius and how wrong the left was about him. That was the start of my journey to the right.

Mallard T. Drake on November 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM

FactsofLife on November 18, 2008 at 12:16 PM

You forgot to include..’Concerned’ and ‘Christian’….

BigWyo on November 18, 2008 at 12:26 PM

I’d be willing to let the WaPo slide with a charge of Culpable Misunderstanding for this one, especially since the report is, at best, incoherent.

njcommuter on November 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Bush repeatedly vowed not to withdraw from Iraq until the violence dwindled to levels that Iraq can handle on its own.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he still should NOT have agreed to a timeline.

He could not see the political fallout of this? He really is an idiot.

It’s nice to march to the rhythm of your own drum, but not when so many depend on you.

drjohn on November 18, 2008 at 12:29 PM

I grew up in the DC suburbs and have been a reader of the Wa Post for decades. They have a pretty decent sports page.

Red State State of Mind on November 18, 2008 at 12:29 PM

I would worry about Obama reaping the fruits of Bush’s labor, but I’m afraid Iraq is still a focal point and al-Qaeda/Islamists have every intention of portraying this as an American defeat.

Phoenician on November 18, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Bush is bad and is responsible for all problems in Iraq, Obama is good and will get all credit for victory in Iraq. Got it Washington Post, thanks for your input.

tyrfing on November 18, 2008 at 12:30 PM

I loathe the Washington Doo-Doo. That’s why I canceled them.

ex-Democrat on November 18, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Am I the only one that sees a difference between a deadline set by Iraqis and one set by Democrats in Congress?

Kafir on November 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM

What happened with “Peace With Honor”?

davidk on November 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM

MSM wants Bush to leave with shame, and damn it, they’re going to get their shameful exit, facts be damned.

Matticus Finch on November 18, 2008 at 12:42 PM

The Post has supported the war…. – Ed

Ed,

Please provide the faintest shred of evidence to support this statement. Methinks you are mistaken, if not completely and utterly wrong on this point.

Subsunk

Subsunk on November 18, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Too bad Hope ‘n Change doesn’t apply to the winning of the Iraq war.
“What happened with “Peace With Honor”?”
davidk: The lefties have forgotten what ‘peace and ‘honor’ means and of course, it’s Bush’s fault for getting us into an ‘illegal and immoral’ war with a sovereign nation that was not a threat to us’. (Illegal, immoral and threat are also omitted from their memory because of BDS.)

Christine on November 18, 2008 at 12:50 PM

After bleating constantly for the last few years that the war couldn’t be won in Iraq and that it would turn into quagmire from which no exit would be possible, the media are having a hard time admitting that we might actually be on the verge of victory in Iraq.

To make such an admission would be a vindication for the Bush administration and if Iraq ends up becoming a stable democracy it would end up being the Bush administrations greatest achievement.

This is something that the left and their stooges in the media are determined to prevent from happening and I quite expect that once Obama takes office the media’s coverage of the war in Iraq will change to.

Basically they wont give any credit for a victory in Iraq to Bush but instead they will try and spin it so that it appears the only reason why we prevailed is because of the leadership and wisdom of Barack Obama.

Dreadnought223 on November 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM

@ FactsofLife at 12:16 PM

We have yet to see the results of our involvement in Iraq.


So why do you claim it’s a failure? You appear unable to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the policy of the state.

Your post is nonsense, including your inability to undersand that if Saddam had not been removed he would today be developing nuclear weapons,and still training, harboring and financing terrorists. This is The Real Intelligence Failure.

Basilsbest on November 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM

The Post has supported the war…. – Ed
Ed,

Please provide the faintest shred of evidence to support this statement. Methinks you are mistaken, if not completely and utterly wrong on this point.
Subsunk Subsunk on November 18, 2008 at 12:42 PM

I think he might mean being officially in favor of the war- at some point – while doing everything in their power to ensure defeat.

There is a word that applies to the conduct of the MSM as it relates to Iraq. It begins with T and ends with R but no one has the courage to use it.

Basilsbest on November 18, 2008 at 1:04 PM

I appears that the WaPo is trying to cover Obama’s tail on this..Yesterday, the NYP ran this story and towards the end, was this :

Noting that Iraq had received assurances that President-elect Barack Obama would honor the agreement, al-Dabbagh said each side would have the right to repeal it after giving a year’s notice.

This kinda contradicts his statement on 60 Minutes

Obama – who yesterday stepped down from the Senate to prepare to take office on Jan. 20 – said he intends to “stick to [the] commitment” he made to begin removing US troops from Iraq.

“As soon as I take office, I will call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, my national-security apparatus, and we will start executing a plan that draws down our troops,” Obama said.

Pam on November 18, 2008 at 1:06 PM

The American liberal media. Who needs them? No one.

Griz on November 18, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Timelines: IOKIYAR

benny shakar on November 18, 2008 at 1:15 PM

we would have left.

Sure we would.

Grow Fins on November 18, 2008 at 1:17 PM

His blind belief in democracy led to the rise of Hamas.

FactsofLife on November 18, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I’m sure GW believed in democracy in the 1980’s when Hamas “arose”, but I doubt he influenced their rise.

Patrick S on November 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM

@ FactsofLife at 12:16 PM

We have yet to see the results of our involvement in Iraq.


So why do you claim it’s a failure? You appear unable to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the policy of the state.

Your post is nonsense, including your inability to undersand that if Saddam had not been removed he would today be developing nuclear weapons,and still training, harboring and financing terrorists. This is The Real Intelligence Failure.

Basilsbest on November 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM

The killing of Christians is not being inhibited by the government in any way. The boycott of Israel is official government policy
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It is clear that they are just going to be another Islamic radical enemy of ours by all their current leanings.
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After defeating Saddam we could have struck a deal with him to keep him in control. We could have monitored his nuclear efforts against his will. You shouldn’t let your wishful thinking mislead you.

FactsofLife on November 18, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Yes, indeed-stay the course, and stand them up so we can stand down. Kudos to that man for sticking to his word, and seeing those conditions fulfilled.
I never doubted him OR our military, and it’s sweet to see the vitriol shoved back down the left’s throat.
Another large THANK YOU goes out to our military, for their continuing effort and sacrifice during this mission.

irongrampa on November 18, 2008 at 1:36 PM

The reality of Iraq is that Saddam should have been dealt with back in 91 during the first Gulf war.

Secondly for people who claim that the invasion of Iraq was illegal I beg to differ. At the time Saddam was still subject to the terms of the cease fire agreement from the first war and the UN mandate to allow weapon inspections and supervision and verification that his WMD’s had been destroyed. As Iraq did not comply with the terms of those agreements any use of force to ensure that Iraq and Saddam complied was authorised by the UN. Hell even Clinton bombed Baghdad for failing to comply with the terms of the agreement in mid nineties to try and distract attention from the Lewinsky scandal (Now that’s immoral). Also Saddam was actively supporting Terrorists at the time in Palestine with money and weapons.

Thirdly if the Coalition hadn’t invaded Iraq when it did it would have happened eventually anyway, especially if one of Saddam’s sons had taken over.

Dreadnought223 on November 18, 2008 at 1:38 PM

FactsofLife on November 18, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Why doesn’t anyone want to examine the underlying facts anymore? Is it just more fun to believe the headlines and kneejerk reactions?

Fact #1: The Palis had not held an election for ten years. When you go that long between elections, you have no idea how people are going to vote.

Fact #2: In many of the races, Fatah ran two candidates while Hamas ran one. The two Fatah candidates split the vote, awarding the seat to Hamas. That was just plain boneheaded on the part of Fatah and probably based on ten year old data.

Also, democracies are not in and of themselves peaceful. You need to combine democracy with a good economy. The Gaza strip sits right on the Mediterranean sea. If the Palis had put their effort into building a tourism industry instead of killing Israelis, they’d all be fat and happy and as peaceful as lambs.

Kafir on November 18, 2008 at 1:45 PM

This goes along with the “Bush lied” about WMD line when Saddam Hussein ADMITTED that he had WMD. INclude also the “Mission Accomplished Banner” jokes, when we had removed Hussein from power and made sure that he would never again use WMD against his neighbors or Iraqis (MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!). In order to claim that Bush lied, liberals need to lie themselves.

jerseyman on November 18, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Kafir,
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Exactly right. That’s why democracy had no chance over there and was a very bad move.
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The Palis are more interested in destroying Israel than anything else. Middle Eastern Muslims are radicalized and will follow their Jihad leanings.

FactsofLife on November 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM

They just can not bring themselves to give Bush any credit for anything.

If it had been left to people like Obama, Iraq would still be run by Saddam and his psycho offspring. That is an uncomfortable reality they must avoid dealing with. Better to bash Bush.

Terrye on November 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM

…in other words WE WON!!!

29Victor on November 18, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Fact #1: TRUE

Fact #2: TRUE

If the Palis had put their effort into building a tourism industry instead of killing Israelis, they’d all be fat and happy and as peaceful as lambs. TRUE

Kafir on November 18, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Red State State of Mind on November 18, 2008 at 4:10 PM

From the CAUF:

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Note that it is Congress calling on its Public Law to create the policy for a democratic government to replace the one in Iraq. As the 1998 law pre-dates President Bush, that was the pre-existing policy of the US with regards to Iraq.

Things are moving along much quicker than I expected, and the next President may, indeed, take out the CAUF and go through the checklist and say: “Its over, all done.” For prudence let us hope that goes through at least a couple of election cycles there, to ensure the process of democracy is in-place… the rest is just inter-governmental agreements, some Iraqi law and Iraq signing on to existing treaties. With a bit of nuance, that should go swimmingly.

President Bush applying this policy to non-state actors, on the other hand, I have a hard time liking as it gives legitimacy to killing your way to power, which is anti-democratic at its base. Unfortunately I have problems finding anyone in either party willing to talk about rule of law, the law of nations, and just what that means for us as a nation. That is ‘Progressive’ in a negative direction, and we are near the end of the line on where that can get us…. and there is no light at the end of this tunnel.

ajacksonian on November 19, 2008 at 7:49 AM

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