He already has gone back on his word before. A few more broken promises, what does it matter when you’re the One?

Bush now needs to pardon Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean.

N15PCA on November 18, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Could have sworn I heard this morning on Fox that he’s already turned down the request for pardon, but maybe I’m wrong. Was very disheartened when I at least (thought) I heard that.

I wonder if Mathews still has that tingle in the leg when he sees Obama. If this continues will Oberman turn on him.

Irvin88 on November 18, 2008 at 2:12 PM

This is how the People’s temple of Obama will handle this news:(via Glenn Greenwald/Salon dot com)

obama on FISA
Keith Olbermann: Then and now

Olbermann added that telecom amnesty was a “shameless, breathless, literally textbook example of Fascism — the merged efforts of government and corporations that answer to no government.” Noting the numerous telecom lobbyists connected to the Bush administration, Olbermann said:
This is no longer just a farce in which protecting telecoms is dressed up as protecting us from terrorists conference cells. Now it begins to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich, trying to protect the Krupp family, the industrial giants, re-writing the laws of Germany for their benefit.
Olbermann closed by scoffing at the idea that telecom amnesty or revisions to FISA were necessary to help National Security:
There is not a choice of protecting the telecoms from prosecution or protecting the people from terrorism, Sir. This is a choice of protecting the telecoms from prosecution or pretending to protect the people from terrorists. Sorry, Mr. Bush, the eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no impact on counter-terrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist threat the thwarting of which could hinge on an email or phone call that is going through Room 641 of AT&T in San Francisco.

Strong and righteous words indeed. But that was five whole months ago, when George Bush was urging enactment of a law with retroactive immunity and a lessening of FISA protections. Now that Barack Obama supports a law that does the same thing — and now that Obama justifies that support by claiming that this bill is necessary to keep us Safe from the Terrorists — everything has changed.

Last night, Olbermann invited Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter onto his show to discuss Obama’s support for the FISA and telecom amnesty bill (video of the segment is here). There wasn’t a syllable uttered about “immunizing corporate criminals” or “textbook examples of Fascism” or the Third Reich. There wasn’t a word of rational criticism of the bill either. Instead, the two media stars jointly hailed Obama’s bravery and strength — as evidenced by his “standing up to the left” in order to support this important centrist FISA compromise:
OLBERMANN: Asked by “Rolling Stone” publisher, Jann Wenner, about how Democrats have cowered in the wake of past Republican attacks, Senator Obama responding, quote, “Yeah, I don’t do cowering.” That’s evident today in at least three issues . . .
Senator Obama also refusing to cower even to the left on the subject of warrantless wiretapping. He’s planning to vote for the FISA compromise legislation, putting him at odds with members of his own party

. . .

You getting this,they wanted to impeach Bush over FISA,calling him a facist.
Obama says “it’s okay,lets do it”,and now it is a show of strength.

This is what it means to be an “Obama progressive”.
What ever you say Obama
Yes sir Obama
You are going to save the world Obama
Hope and Change for everybody
Going to war in Pakistan and Darfur is okay if Obama says so
Obama is the next FDR,JFK,Lincoln, we must follow
Obama the community organizer is going to show us the way

Yea right,it’s the Republicans and Christians that are the crazy ones.

Bush now needs to pardon Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean.

N15PCA on November 18, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Agreed. Call 202-456-1111 and let Bush know we need to free our wrongly jailed Border Patrol Agents.

Obama is expected to create a panel modeled after the 9/11 Commission to study interrogations

LOL… COOL!!! so now we’ll pour Billions of dollars into interegation techniques… and create:

The Deparment of Homeland Interregation?

Exactly what record of being truthful on SamiBamis part are we relying on here? If I was one of the interrogators, I would want the pardon in my pocket before Jan. 20.

Bush now needs to pardon Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean.

N15PCA on November 18, 2008 at 2:09 PM

I will be very pissed if he doesn’t pardon them. Then again, he hasn’t really shown that he gives a damn about protecting our borders, or those that are trying to.

Obama won’t investigate terror interrogators
Strike another hope of the Left
from the incoming Barack Obama administration. Associated Press
reports that Obama will not pursue criminal investigations into the
interrogations of terrorist……

I would think he is wakening up, but still we don’t know what he is about.

sheebe on November 18, 2008 at 2:30 PM

If you don’t know what the Magic Mulatto, the Affirmative Action President, is all about by now, you haven’t been paying attention. Obama is a Marxist, pure and simple, and anything that impedes his che’nges can only be a good thing for the Country, including the pressure of being The One in charge, with the only fall guy being Obama, himself. With his arrogance and narcissism, any failure due to his ‘policies’ will make him implode. Which will be fun to watch. As I said, couldn’t happen to a more rotten — and deserving — jerk.

Obama is expected to create a panel modeled after the 9/11 Commission to study interrogations

If that’s the case he’d better capture the likes of Osama and Zawahiri in a hurry, so they’re available to serve on the panel.

Yep. There were a bunch of them out this morning and last night on the “alternative lifestyle” thread. I don’t want to say the word, or they might appear.

I would say that little briefing with dubya the other day was QUITE a wake up call.

How would that play politically? The MoveOn/Code Pink wing of his support will be outraged, but they live in perpetual outrage, and they’ll get over it … eventually.

Bill Clinton. WTO protests. Seattle 1999.

The left will cut Obama some slack, hoping … hoping … hoping he’ll turn into the slayer of all things George W. Bush they expected him to be (along with the harbinger of a new era of redistributionism in America). But in the end, if Obama keeps appointing Clinton people and mimics Bush’s foreign policy they’re not going to just shrug their shoulders and quietly melt away.