Video: Time for another “enraged anti-Prop 8 mob” video
posted at 5:37 pm on November 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The violence wasn’t captured on camera this time; read the boss for a description of that. The media’s unwilling to place blame where it belongs in these incidents since the identities of the harassers and harassed confound the established Narrative, so they resort instead to feeble, evenhanded tsk-tsking about how “both sides” need to “cool down.” Look out for that as the coverage of this breaks big.
There’s only one man now who can rescue Prop 8 opponents from the terrible trappings of democracy — and luckily, not only has he had a lot of practice at it, this particular issue is one of his specialties. Expect a major 5-4 equal protection decision striking down the referendum sometime next year, with you-know-who writing for the majority. A surefire consolation prize for conservatives? Angriest Scalia dissent evah.
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“Shame on those stupid Christians who have no manners and no sense of balance. ”
Yeah…those dumb hicks…how dare they take “Freedom of Speech” seriously. Let’s see, they weren’t screaming abuse at elderly Mormon women, or threatening to destroy the livings of those who voted against them, or ripping a Cross from the hands of an old woman, or using the ‘N’ word against Afro-Americans, or refusing to accept majority rules in a democracy BUT hey ! they must be the ones with no “sense of balance”.
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 8:43 PM
He won’t answer; I will: to enemies of Christ, holding a cross is incitement to violence. Now I’d be willing to assume that not all homosexuals hate Christ. But those who think like Jetboy certainly do and I’d have more respect for them if they’d just admit it. Like that other enemy of Christ, those who would use the term ‘breeder’ hate the breed–human beings.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Hey JetBoy,
Stay out. I’m from SF Bay Area. That crap against gays doesn’t happen out there. These protests are by maggots. They are pouty, spoiled punks who want us to accept and reward them for sinful behavior. They also want to get our our sons and daughters to teach them ‘the life’. To Hell with them. We need to stand up against these people, not back down.
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Stay out my kids school with your lame pushing of gay sex, stay out of my town with your rainbow flags, and I will stay out of your gay streets.
It’s a deal.
Hening on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
California family law code 297.5 reads as follows:
297.5. (a) Registered domestic partners shall have the same rights,
protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same
responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they
derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules,
government policies, common law, or any other provisions or sources of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses.
Care to try again?
Bobbertsan on November 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM
If gays in CA can marry, then damnit, I want to be able to marry MULTIPLE rich widows. This is bull. If they could marry samesex, then how can we justify stopping polygamy?
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM
For the umpteenth, and last time…
She wasn’t just silently holding a cross…the mob didn’t come to her, she went to the mob. In the aftermath of a highly emotional vote. Why, to silently stand and praise the Lord? Nope…to use that cross as a weapon of taunt. To taunt the crowd with it.
Real Christian, huh?
Now, that’s my answer. Do with it what you please. Don’t ask again.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM
The demons were the first to announce Christ as God, and this is how they behaved.
Hening on November 17, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Out means out. Unless you’ve heard from a rainbowed unicorn. Otherwise, out means out.
Coronagold on November 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Spare us. You don’t even know what a real Christian is.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Annoying whistles.
Bishop on November 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Bishop … LMAO … thanks for the cool breeze amidst the heat I was feeling all around me.
ORrighty on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
The mere presence of a political opponent is infuriating if you’re gay and in order to avoid becoming like Soviet Russia, public expression of that opinion should be banned and the old woman should be sent to the gulags.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
Those limp wrist sissy-Mary’s got a dose of their own protest medicine. And their response? Violence.
Eat $hit Jetboy.
csdeven on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Divorce and remarriage logically gets you a step closer to polygamy than gay marriage does. A guy might marry 3 or 4 women during his life and keep them through the peak of their fertility. It has an effect similar to polygamy.
dedalus on November 17, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Really? I better stop going to Sunday Mass then…stop saying my prayers every night…take down the two crucifixes in my place.
baldilocks has spoken…
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM
“If gays in CA can marry, then damnit, I want to be able to marry MULTIPLE rich widows. This is bull. If they could marry samesex, then how can we justify stopping polygamy?”
Great point, Sapwolf. If we have to change marriage just to suit gays why not change it to suit brothers who want to marry their sisters, or fathers and daughters. Marriage as we know it has been a tradition for two thousand years …let gays start their own tradition.
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Not in terms of rights. Consenting adults is the mchief gay marriage argument. That it’s two or three or four seems completely irrelevant.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Some real gems popping up in this thread…
And to think, I’m on your side politically. You guys are the reason McCain lost. And you guys are gonna find it mighty lonely outside the GOP fence in the coming years.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Going through the motions doesn’t change the fact that you openly defy several Christian ideals.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Oh is that what makes you a Christian? Or perhaps it’s your condescension that magically does the trick.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Marrying several women during your life seems a lot closer in effect to polygamy than marrying some dude.
dedalus on November 17, 2008 at 8:56 PM
While I think a lot of hot air commenters are morons (not csdeven, his comment was hilarious), we’re not the reason why McCain lost. McCain lost because of McCain. Nobody else.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 8:56 PM
“Nope…to use that cross as a weapon of taunt. To taunt the crowd with it.”
Ha, ha, ha !!! So a plastic cross is a “weapon of taunt” ? Try growing up. If a bunch of grown men can’t tolerate one old lady silently holding a cross then they should all be in therapy. If Londoners can tolerate a thousand muslims marching thru our streets calling for “Death To Infidels” then a couple of hundred “grown” men should be able to deal with one lady.
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM
That’s why I said “rights”, not effect. At any rate, since a hypothetical gay “marriage” can result in divorce as well this is a tangential issue and not one worth discussing.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM
OK. Yeah, let’s not debate gay divorce.
dedalus on November 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM
I’ve respected your opinion for some time….still do…even thought you’re out of your mind on this one…
Where was I ever condescending to Christians, or Christianity? Don’t believe I was…
Nice of you to question MY Christianity tho…insinuate much?
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:01 PM
The fact that some think that conservatives would care about being “outside the GOP fence” illustrates how wide the gulf between Republicans and conservatives has become and indicates what has become of conservative principles. Unknown unknowns indeed.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 9:01 PM
“And to think, I’m on your side politically. ”
Yeah, right. Most of us here are conservatives or libertarians – your liberal intolerance marks you down as something else politically.
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 9:01 PM
The latest fascist ploy at eroding the rights of others. It makes me think, by the way they are acting, that Proposition 8 may have been right after all. I could be wrong if this is only a minority of this community but it does make me wonder….? Did any of these people ever study Ghandi or Martin Luther King’s philosophy of non-violent protest? Just makes me wonder…
DL13 on November 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM
No, it won’t get to the U.S. Supreme Court, because the California Supreme Court is going to void Proposition 8.
paul006 on November 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Yeah, you make me laugh too.
OK, so by your thought, if some little old gay goes to, oh say Westboro Baptist, and silently holds up a pink triangle amongst the crowd, you believe that person doesn’t know what they’re getting into?
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:03 PM
haha!! Yeah, my friends would LOVE to hear someone call ME a LIBERAL. But speaking of INTOLERANCE….look in the mirror.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM
We are being overrun by crimianl aliens, the economy is in shambles, 15 years of my retirement savings is lost, our taxes are being raised to the point where it’s unsustainable, we have a racist, marxist president elect who has nocturnal emissions over the thought of Bill Ayers as a Sup Court justice…this issue is a puny kooky subculture distraction.
The only reason it makes the news is because it’s comedy gold to watch effeminate men in tight pants and tank tops having a group hissy fit.
Alden Pyle on November 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Does anyone remember that in Iran their great leader said that there are no gays? I am gay. I am conservative. I would hope that heterosexuals would take their marriage vows more seriously……….that would make for a much better world.
SC.Charlie on November 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM
No, it won’t get to the U.S. Supreme Court, because the California Supreme Court is going to void Proposition 8.
paul006 on November 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM
And then “they’ll be dancin’ in the streets”. The victim mentality is “I, me me, my”.
No other songs come to mind right now.
ORrighty on November 17, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I just had the greatest idea. Why don’t me and a few of my friends do the complete opposite of what’s morally acceptable, infect mainstream society with our thinking, then force a majority of people to accept our moral bankruptcy by taking a few isolated incidents and blowing them way out of proportion. This way we can effectively silence the opposition by insisting that they’re wrong, and ultimately blaming the entire religious group (even if it isn’t the one that condones car bombs, airplane hijacking, and general hatred towards liberty and freedom).
Once we get enough people to abandon their beliefs due to their impatience, and apathy towards defending their belief structure, we can incite hatred and violence towards the entire religion, yet still be socially acceptable when all of these gullible fools buy our crap that we’re the forces of “tolerance”.
This way when even one single media outlet dares question our motives and methods of distorting the world view of a certain religious group, we can always play the victim card.
Oh wait……
that’s already been done.
leetpriest on November 17, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Ah…now you’re comparing the crowd you won’t condemn to a cult that everyone condemns. Interesting.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 9:08 PM
1) She WAS silently holding the cross.
2) Again, how EXACTLY does one use the cross as a weapon of taunt?
I think you’re idea of what a Real Christian is leaves a whole lot to be desired.
I will continue to ask unless/until you ACTUALLY ANSWER the question!
Simply repeating your assertion is not the same thing as explaining WHY a cross is, all of a sudden, a weapon of mass taunting.
So, yet again, HOW exactly is silently holding a cross the same thing as TAUNTING or INCITING a group of homosexual terrorists?
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 9:08 PM
The difference is that some “little old gay” who holds up a pink triangle in ANY church knows good and well that (s)he isn’t going to get shouted down.
However much the thrill of “speaking truth to your parents” may seem like the endall of courageous action, it’s a shuck.
warbaby on November 17, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Thanks.…
I’m out of my mind in thinking that the cross provokes enemies of Christianity and that people who use the term ‘Breeder” hate the issue or breeding, that is, humans? How so?
You were the one who said that woman holding a cross equaled “taunting” and by magically defining it as such, you implied that the action was “un-Christian.” When I responded you said “baldilocks has spoken.” You were being condescending towards me personally. Then you started listing the things that allegedly made you a Christian. So I took your magical method of changing definitions and turned it back around you.
Get over it.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM
You will know a tree by the fruit it bears.
You seem to think the symbol of the greatest love the world has ever known is enough to warrant assaulting an elderly lady.
You continue to blame the victims and stick up for the violent perpetrators.
That’s not exactly the fruit of a real Christian.
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 9:11 PM
“OK, so by your thought, if some little old gay goes to, oh say Westboro Baptist,’”
Nice try, the little old lady was in a public place…standing on a sidewalk…Gays have burst into numerous churches in the US and Europe…they have screamed profanities in front of children and other worshippers and they have NEVER been attacked. Interestingly though I have never heard of any gays trying anything similar in mosques…I wonder why ?
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM
1) Westboro Baptist is NOT a Christian church not matter what they claim.
2) Substitute any other real Christian church for Westboro and I can GUARANTEE that absolutely NOTHING will happen to them.
3) Again, interesting to note that an old lady silently holding a cross causes you to come up with comparisons to skin heads and Fred Phelps.
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM
aaahhh….the open minded and tolerant left wing.
mountaineer for liberty on November 17, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Actually I doubt even Phelps would attack them. Westboro are a bunch of crazy bastards but they’re not violent.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 9:19 PM
JetBoy, how do you feel about the “Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence” who dress in “nun” costumes and pull stunts at mass and in front of churches? Do you think they’re asking to be beaten up? Inciting riots?
capitalist piglet on November 17, 2008 at 9:19 PM
. – Alden Pyle
Somewhat true.
Random thoughts……… since the election of Obama, one of the best businesses to be in is the sale of guns and ammunition. Second amendment advocates are buying up weapons and ammunition. And, if I remember correctly it is a federal hate-crime offense to single someone out for their religion.
SC.Charlie on November 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM
We’re getting somewhere.
You: You were the one who said that woman holding a cross equaled “taunting”
I said no such thing. I said *sigh* her choice of venue, again…she went to the mob, not the other way around…was in question. She went there to purposely use that cross to taunt the crowd with. And THAT is very un-Christian in my book. Your book may vary.
When I responded you said “baldilocks has spoken.” You were being condescending towards me personally.
Oh, you didn’t simply “respond”, you questioned my Christianity. Vinegar begets flies.
Then you started listing the things that allegedly made you a Christian
And you keep going. But this time, I digress. That would be the Christian thing to do.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Oh, brother…I forgot all about them.
Well, I know I wouldn’t mind punching a few of them. Honestly I think they’re simply being a-holes.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:25 PM
The double-standard here is pretty interesting. It seems to me that gay people are going to churches, businesses, and even people’s homes to protest the vote of the majority of Californians, but a little old lady carrying a cross was going “to the mob”, basically asking to be assaulted.
I don’t care what she said to those people, if anything – they had no right to lay a finger on her. How anyone, on either side of this debate, could defend the way she was treated (by the way, exactly where did that event take place?) is simply beyond my ability to comprehend.
capitalist piglet on November 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Jetboy is the same kind of guy that blames the woman for getting raped because she wore provocative clothing, taunting the aggressive male to lose control.
In this case, it was a bunch of spineless sissies that bullied an elderly woman for being provocative.
Saltysam on November 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM
I can’t.
You seem to have forgotten that you questioning that woman’s Christianity was what started it. You began the judgment of the state of another’s spirit
You’re doing it again. I submit that you’re unable to see your own hypocrisy. It doesn’t make you unChristian; it does make you wrong and…no way to say this nicely…an apologist for the violent and the enemies of Christ.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 9:31 PM
You watch O’Reilly, too.
SC.Charlie on November 17, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Well, I know I wouldn’t mind punching a few of them. Honestly I think they’re simply being a-holes.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:25 PM
I appreciate your acknowledgment. I really do. I think they’re deliberately trying to be as obnoxious and foul as they possibly can be – far more than some group of Christians singing and praying, or a little old lady walking around with a styrofoam cross – but I wouldn’t advocate anyone hurting them.
One last thought: It’s striking that the act of praying or singing praise songs is met with such a violent and visceral reaction from some members of the gay community. I can only imagine why.
capitalist piglet on November 17, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Actually, no…I can’t stand O’Reilly. I’m not sure where I first heard about the “Sisters”, but it wasn’t there.
capitalist piglet on November 17, 2008 at 9:37 PM
oh God… I’m gay and I really cannot stand these faggots.
D2Boston on November 17, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Zombie maybe?
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Excuse me. But the woman was not physically harmed, to my knowledge. I would like to know what she has to say about her experience. Does anyone have a link to what she has to say?
SC.Charlie on November 17, 2008 at 9:39 PM
OK…I’m Catholic, and let’s say I go to some Protestant Evangelical gathering where they just lost the right to marry. Only Catholics can marry. (bear with me here)
Later that night, I carry my crucifix…silently…into the Evangelical crowd. My crucifix is torn from my hands, a reporter shows up…well, you know the rest.
Now, was I simply being a good Christian?
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:39 PM
wht a bunch f sick sacks of excrement. Human debri like Jetboy.
bill30097 on November 17, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I won’t respond any more to that kind of ludicrous analogy.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I’m a straight white man and I want my rights. The right to not have to hear about blacks rights, gay rights, illegal immigrant rights, animal rights and on and on and on. Jeez I’m just so sick of it. It will never end. No matter how many rights they get they just keep wanting more and more.
bdog2995 on November 17, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Its nice to see that there are still people that refuse to goosestep.
Saltysam on November 17, 2008 at 9:43 PM
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:41 PM
You sewed the dress.
Wear it.
Saltysam on November 17, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I don’t known. Nothing in that nonsensical story indicates the state of your spirit. (Aside: Why would an Evangelical crowd tear a crucifix from anyone’s hands?)
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Jetboy, from your comments above, I take it you’re Catholic. So am I, and for me that means we have a connection more important than any issue being discussed here tonight. I don’t agree with you on Prop 8 and I’m extremely disturbed by recent events. What I understand from your comments, though, is that it would be better for Christians to avoid doing things that appear to rub salt into wounds right now. I believe the reaction of the gay community was wrong, but I agree that some of this could probably be avoided with a little more sensitivity on the part of Christian activists.
Dee2008 on November 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:39 PM
What kind of medication are you on? Or do you need to be on some?
As a Southern Christian Gentleman, that little cross-grabbing scenario you described is about as likely as Rosie O’ Donnell winning the NRA’s “Huntress of the Year”
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM
This is insulting, bill. Tone it down.
DCGamer on November 17, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Everybody in this thread needs to just chill out. It’s like a “I’m more Christian/Conservative/American/Moral/Whatever than you!!!!1!1!” marathon. Why can’t we just respect each others beliefs? The stuff I’ve seen some of you guys fling at each other is disgusting. All of you need to chill out. I understand its a very complex issue, but, in reality, we have much bigger fish to fry than this issue (no matter what side you’re on). I wish people had this much passion about fiscal and foreign policy. Wouldn’t it be easier if the government didn’t get involved in this issue period (i.e. no government recognition of marriage for anyone) and let everyone else go back to calling what they think constitutes a marriage and what they think doesn’t whatever the hell they want to call it. And shame on all of you on both sides for being so hateful about expressing your views. When people start dropping the terms “enemies of Christ”, “real Christian”, and “limp-wrist sissy Mary”, and people are compared to none other than Fred Phelps (almost as bad as being compared to Hitler) multiple times, then I know we’re in trouble. Calm down…all of you. Now.
malan89 on November 17, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Somebody gets me. Finally. Spot on.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Quoted simply because it needed to be quoted. I have nothing to say about this.
malan89 on November 17, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I can has voice of reason?
malan89 on November 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Got it.
“Your side won, so shut up about it. If you make your opinion known, and it’s on the wrong side, you deserve to be bullied and threatened. A cross is just a cross…unless you dare bring it around some gay people who are sore about losing a vote in a democratic society. Christians against gay marriage are comparable to the Aryan Brotherhood and the Westboro Baptist Church. Old ladies with cardboard crosses and people walking through a gay neighborhood while praying are TAUNTING, INCITING RIOTS, AND ASKING FOR TROUBLE. You deserve everything you get, because bad stuff supposedly happens to gays, so turnabout is fair play. You shall suffer for the sins of your ignorant peers.”
We got ya a long time ago, pal.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Yes. It makes me wonder about Jetboy’s truthfulness.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 10:01 PM
“but I agree that some of this could probably be avoided with a little more sensitivity on the part of Christian activists.”
Yeah, God forbid that Christians be allowed to voice their opinions. If Gays are really exposed to the kind of a
“atrocities” that jetboy claims they suffer then why would a liitle hymn-singing and a little plastic cross so enrage them?
The real reason is their hatred of anything that reminds them of what they really are…..intolerant bigots. If they can’t put up with the sight of Christians then they should pack their bags and go to Saudi Arabia where crosses are banned.
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Heat and kitchen.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 10:02 PM
No.
How d’ya like that?
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM
*guzzles half of beer…belches*
braaaaaaaaaaap
What’s this guys problem?
Saltysam on November 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Again I ask – how is silently holding a cross “taunting”?
How did she “taunt” simply by holding a cross?
You must think, then, that the cross itself taunts the homosexuals.
Interesting perspective.
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM
You should be careful about these stereotypes. I had the bad sense to have a bad boy ex-boyfriend. He’s in jail now. Something about driving while intoxicated, without a license, and in a stolen car. I can’t visit him now, because it’s bad in jail to be known to be gay. Still, he had large muscles and is rather macho. But the really strange thing about him is that he is a nice, decent guy, but he started taking drugs. I was used to be libertarian about all drugs. Now, I just favor marijuana legalization.
thuja on November 17, 2008 at 10:07 PM
“Everybody in this thread needs to just chill out.”
Wrong. To stand back and watch the kind of intolerance currently being directed against Christians by radical gays and say nothing would be wrong. This is something to get emotional and passionate about. The radical gay leftist agenda is about destroying the Judeo-Christian culture that forms the backbone of our society.
Son of Albion on November 17, 2008 at 10:07 PM
You’re kidding right?
Supporters of Prop 8 have been nothing but models of restraint since November 4th.
The Ugly American on November 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM
No, it’s nowhere near as bad. phelps didn’t murder millions of people. In fact, to my knowledge, phelps hasn’t murdered anyone.
Darth Executor on November 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM
If the entire point of carrying the cross is to imply gays are immoral, yes it is taunting. People have the right to taunt, but that shouldn’t lie that they aren’t taunting.
thuja on November 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I agree that perhaps these guys could have decided not to express their faith in this particular area just a short while after Prop 8 had passed. However, that doesn’t mean that they should have been subject to the crap that happened to them. These gay “activists” acted reprehensibly, and several of them should have been arrested.
Sir Corky on November 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM
This probable works with your children. Adults not so much.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Get over yourself. So, gays are little upset now. After centuries of oppression, followed by a few decades of repression, gays have a right to pissed about what people acting under the influence of Christianity have done. By the way, one of the reasons Judaism is the true religion is because the Jews have embraced the rights of gay people long before the Christians have.
thuja on November 17, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Sensitive?
This sound an awful like that BS after 9/11 that we should have been more ’sensitive’ to the terrorists feelings/demands.
These anti-Prop 8 people are nothing more than juvenile terrorists.
They do not deserve our “sensitivity”, and any perceived lack thereof is never, EVER a reason to be supportive of violence.
It’s kinda funny in a very, very sad way.
Christians are showing themselves and not doing anything else except holding crosses and singing hymns and they are getting assaulted.
Yet when the juvenile terrorists burn holy books and disrupt services they get left alone.
Yet the Christians get blamed for getting beat up and get no credit for practicing peaceful restraint.
Yeah, right.
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Off topic post! You know what? Paint balls come in a rainbow of colors.
mikepatr on November 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
First you question my Christianity, now you question my truthfulness.
Oh, well. I’m not a liar. And by no means am I anti-Christian. I AM a Christian. But much like many don’t like the mob mentality…I refuse to join the mob on the other side as well.
The street goes two ways.
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
..and if not?
Itchee Dryback on November 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
So the only thing a cross represents is that gays are immoral?
Sounds like someone needs to work on their theology.
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM
To even suggest that it is taunting, is to defer the right of speech to only one side.
The venue was city hall and the news cameras were rolling. These are the times to make statements publicly.
Noone owes anyone else any special “sensitivity”. They only owe the most basic of civic respect. Some that come to mind are; no spitting on anyone, no violence, no ripping property out of peoples hands…you know, stuff like that.
The elderly woman passed that test.
Saltysam on November 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Another needle in the haystack. OK, make that 2 voices of reason so far…thuja and dee.
Anyone else?
JetBoy on November 17, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Homosexuality has been considered a sin in the Jewish church for thousands of years.
And it is STILL considered a sin.
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 10:15 PM
So, it’s ok for gays to call Christians “breeders”, “homophobes” and “haters.”
But it’s NOT OK for Christians to say that homosexuality is a sin?
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Hoo boy. When a sentence starts like that regarding any religion, you know you’re in for a show.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Hell of a question.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM
On Judaism…
…like Christianity, there are several different forms and types of Judaism.
Most sects of Judaism believe that homosexuality is a sin.
However, there are more liberal sects that don’t hold this view.
And what EITHER view has to do with a religion being “true” or not is beyond me!
Religious_Zealot on November 17, 2008 at 10:20 PM
“Jewish church” is an interesting expression. Historically, Jews haven’t worried about gays as much as Christians. All the non-orthodox versions of Judaism are quite pro-gay. I’m thinking of becoming a member of Conservative congregation, which is Orthodox flavored (Conservadox) and it’s quite gay-positive.
thuja on November 17, 2008 at 10:20 PM
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