Video: The obligatory “Star Trek” trailer
posted at 1:19 pm on November 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Ace, who laments the Bay-ification of Roddenberry’s dream. I’ve never been a Trek fan but I know enough to appreciate that (a) it’s not about the FX and (b) campiness is central to the charm. That’s all gone here. In that sense, it is to the original Trek what the modern Batman movies are to the Adam West series from the ’60s, with a notable difference being that the Batman movies are stylistically distinct. They’re a true reinvention (or, rather, a return to form of the darker Batman comics that predated the West version) whereas this looks like everything else on the sci fi market except with a young Kirk and Spock glaring at each other. That feels generic, too: If I want to watch a “young rivals butt heads before learning to respect each other and becoming partners” story arc, I’ll rent Top Gun or any cop buddy picture ever made.
One other thing. Has Trek ever fundamentally been about the sort of personality conflict seen here? One of the pleasures of the series (both original and TNG) is that so many unfold as mysteries and team problem-solving. Distracting soap opera shenanigans are mercifully minimized and usually relegated to subplot. This, by contrast, looks like it could be a two-hour exercise in brooding tools practicing their best emo faces in between scenes of bedding down space starlets. Whatever; you know you’ll see it anyway.
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The HD quality version of this is at the Official Site. MUCH better looking.
And anyone who is a basic fan of the original series *knows* Jim Kirk has no idea of how to operate a clutch.(1)
(1) Episode #46: “A Piece of the Action”
DarthBrooks on November 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM
It looks better here. Pick “trailer two.”
manwithblackhat on November 17, 2008 at 2:45 PM
The HD Trailer…
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/index.html
crazywater on November 17, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Party on, Darth.
manwithblackhat on November 17, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Ok, I just watched it again… When he’s riding the motorcycle, is that supposed to be the ship that he sees? How are they building it on the ground?
Tanya on November 17, 2008 at 2:48 PM
I’m about as excited for this as I was for the “Clone Wars” cartoon. Which is not at all.
SouthernDem on November 17, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I’ll be a contrarian here…I’m excited.
The last few Trek films have been utterly unmemorable. I’ve been watching the show since the 60’s (B&W TV and that routine) and I’m really looking forward to this.
I saw the preview yesterday at the new Bond flick (*eh*) and that, along with the Watchman movie, make me hopeful for 2009. This year has been a wasteland for movies, and it’s amazing that the only films to get the audience interested have been based on comic books.
Abelard on November 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM
“I dunno guys, I kinda liked it” -Butters
Bladerunner1701 on November 17, 2008 at 2:52 PM
I liked Babylon 5, too. The Terminator TV show has definite Republican themes built into it, too. It also has Summer Glau in mini-skirts.
Outlander on November 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM
I saw the preview yesterday at the new Bond flick (*eh*)The new Bond film is good.
toliver on November 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM
DS9 episode “The Visitor” is one of the finest hours of television ever filmed.
Babylon 5 was awe inspiring, too bad they ruined the final season.
I am excited for this movie.
Note my nic.
redshirt on November 17, 2008 at 3:12 PM
It’s worse than you think.
Go to Empireonline to get the detais, but Kirk joins Starfleet AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE – INCLUDING CHEKOV!
Kirk skips the Academy! No Kobayoshi Maru!
W.T.F.
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Guys: they need to add something human to their obvious problem solving / team skills. I mean, if you watch Voyager, then I ask you; how could any man not turn around if Seven of Nine (with that outfit of hers) walks by? They don’t have to be stupid about it, but come on…never? The their so-called crack security team always gets it’s ass kicked. Even when they had some Marines added in “Enterprise”, they at least had some fighting skills, but still, their butts got kicked. Jeez!
I just hope that the pendulum doesn’t swing too far the other way.
cranbone on November 17, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Star Trek is like Pizza or Sex…
When it’s good, it’s really good, and when it’s bad… well, it’s still pretty good.
Boomerang!
BoomJunkie on November 17, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Tango and Cash in Space… (Space…Space…Space…)
/echo & reverb
omnipotent on November 17, 2008 at 3:22 PM
reaganaut on November 17, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I’d pay to see that, too, which brings me to . . .
Outlander on November 17, 2008 at 2:02 PM
The first thing I want to say is – there IS NO such thing as a “Republican Star Trek.” But, if I really had to pick the closest one I’d go with the original series.
Now as for Terminator, there’s some good sci-fi. Solidly conservative – no hippies begging for peace with the machines! – plus which, I <3 Cameron.
Ryan Gandy on November 17, 2008 at 3:22 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=313
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 3:35 PM
You got all that from one trailer, AP? I mostly thought it looked pretty cool.
Jim Treacher on November 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM
The original series was great, though it had some flaws. The Next Generation fixed those flaws, but self-destructed with a whimper through crushing political correctness. DS9 was solid, again. Voyager wrapped itself so much in political correctness that it was just impossible to watch. Enterprise pulled back from the brink and became watchable again. If they hadn’t over-indulged in multi-episode “arcs” so that any episode you watched was liable to be part 2 or 3 of a bigger story, it would have been a lot better.
So in TV series: the 1st was great, the 2nd floundered, the 3rd was great, the 4th really sucked, the 5th was good.
All the odd numbered series were great, all the even-numbered were not so good.
The movies were the opposite: the best ones were even-numbered, the worst were odd-numbered.
So if this one turns out to be a flop, maybe the next one will be better!
tom on November 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Wow, the trailer looks absolutely awful. I’ll probably end up seeing it, but I can guarantee it won’t be the theater (not that that says a whole lot, but still..)
OneGyT on November 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Well, they can create artificial gravity. Why couldn’t they create artificial anti-gravity?
Jim Treacher on November 17, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Set phasers to “nerd”.
Black Adam on November 17, 2008 at 3:54 PM
tom on November 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Yeah, Voyager was a pile of crap. Every two episodes there was either some dumb whinefest – about oppressed natives, nuclear war, animal testing, global warming – or the holographic doctor would shower praise on Che Guevara.
Ryan Gandy on November 17, 2008 at 3:54 PM
oh and as for Enterprise, they ruined the heck out of it with the last episode.
Ryan Gandy on November 17, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Just aim for the pocket protectors!
kybowexar on November 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM
That was my first thought.
I know trailers are vague but wasn’t the gist of that scene :
“So, you like to drive antique muscle cars off cliffs. Clearly you are deemed for greatness. How would you like to command a multi-trillion dollar star ship?”
Guardian on November 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Is that Syler as Spock?
Uncanny!
MechEng5by5 on November 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM
No, the Next Generation self-destructed with its over use of Holodeck Episodes.
Voyager was the one that self-destructed over Political Correctness.
DS9 reached the highest heights for the Trek universe, but even it wallowed in pointless Holodeck and Mirror Universe nonsense.
Enterprise was cut short before it could build on its strengths.
And I liked the story-arcs on Enterprise. Battlestar Galactica has put final the nail in the coffin of episodic sci-fi forever, I hope. Direction and continuity make for much better characterizations and storylines.
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM
And Kirk is supposed to be from Iowa not Arizona, right?
MechEng5by5 on November 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Kirk treated his starships in similar fashion.
Of course, he took out a few Klingons in the process, but you understand my point.
Black Adam on November 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Going off-canon like this is like violating the Prime Directive.
BohicaTwentyTwo on November 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Kinda wondered where that rather deep ditch was doing in Iowa, but hey, perhaps he’d led the nice robo-policman on a race across the country.
kybowexar on November 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Well, that was Kirk’s forte, right?
kybowexar on November 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Galaxy Quest was the definitive homage to all things Star Trek. Just thinking about it makes me want to get it out and watch it all over again.
When I read that Abrams didn’t like Star Trek and was a big fan of Star Wars, I knew this remake was going to be just awful. But noisy! Lots of CGI! And dialogue so bad it makes your hair curl. The trailer supports this suspicion.
bonnie_ on November 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I also noted the nice robot policeman sounded a bit ticked off…
Leave it to Kirk to bring out an emotional reaction in anything or anybody!
kybowexar on November 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM
It’s like Han not shooting first.
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Hey, remember that episode where Kirk didn’t violate the Prime Directive?
Jim Treacher on November 17, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Hey, remember that episode where Kirk didn’t violate the Prime Directive?
Jim Treacher on November 17, 2008 at 4:18 PM
There is one? (laugh)
Do tell…
kybowexar on November 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM
I smell a stinker. The idea that those who served on the “five year mission” aboard the Enterprise all started in Academy together is so Archie Comics it makes me want to puke. Abrams and Co. are not obligated to cast every role from the original series, are they? Why not open things up a little, and introduce supporting roles when the storyline calls for it, instead of forcing them all into some cliche-ridden “Our Gang” contrivance?
ktrush on November 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Yawn….been there done that…. After years of remakes, it
always ends up not satisfying….cause it’s not real and too
cartoony.
dec5 on November 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Truer words was never spoke
tom on November 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Well, I guess I’m in the wrong crowd here.
I liked and actually own the most recent Indiana Jones.
I liked the Quantum of Solace and will most likely end up with that DVD too.
And this is the first Star Trek movie since they “passed the torch” that I’m really interested in seeing.
As for the liberal / conservative political angle consider this:
Yes, a conservative would not give command of a motorbike, much less a starship, to some 20 year old punk with an emotional disorder. But let’s face it folks: the Star Trek future is run by socialists. They don’t have money. They don’t have churches. Hell, they don’t have a military!
If you’re gonna have a hellraiser like that around screwing up your perfect utopia maybe you’d shoot him off into space too!
Browncoatone on November 17, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Yeah,the youth of the crew is worrisome. I am curious, does someone know the answer to this question. What is the youngest captain ever to serve in the modern navy that captained a major ship, i.e. aricraft carrier, battleship, destroyer, etc? I just cannot picture someone so young and inexperineced serving in such a high position.
Crap, as I wrote this I just thought about Obama… But even he isn’t as young as the guy playing Kirk.
redshirt on November 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM
You think this Star Trek will be lame…prepare for toxic levels of fail in the new Day The Earth Stood Still remake:
http://www.mania.com/latest-trailer-for-day-earth-stood-still_article_111208.html
The attack of Al Gort!
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM
WHY IS THIS THREAD NOT IN “TOP PICS” COLUMN!?!
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Actually that would be awesome.
However, this ain’t Bay and The Bruck. It’s the guy that did Regarding Henry and Felicity. Lower your unreasonably high expectations, nerds, or you’ll all be as upset about this one as you were when Spielberg hid Indy in a lead fridge, Lucas told you every useless stormtrooper was really a Boba Fett clone, and Bryan Singer gave Superman teh ghey.
ScottMcC on November 17, 2008 at 5:29 PM
In the concept for the original series, the Enterprise would travel to and land on the various planets. When that proved cost prohibitive to film, Roddenberry and crew came up with the “transporter” and the shuttles to get the crew on/off planet. God, I’m a geek…
Kevin71 on November 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Keanu Reeves as a very svelt Goracle giving the repent or die ultimatum to a selfish human race too uppity to live in trees like Amazonian Indians. A pox on your indoor plumbing!
But….? So, the aliens that are sent to destroy us never burned fossil fuels? They went from sparking woodfires with flint to solar panels in a single generation? No wonder they hold us in contempt.
ktrush on November 17, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Well, there’s no denying that however bad TNG was with political correctness, Voyager buried it.
And there’s no denying that TNG went way overboard with holodeck nonsense.
But a military starship that had a “counselor” ON THE BRIDGE can’t deny being overly politically correct.
And I enjoyed the story arcs on Enterprise, but I was a big enough Star Trek fan to be willing to watch every episode so I could keep up. When it was possible. But they really should have gone to more effort to make each episode stand alone better. The less committed fans could very easily have decided it was just too much work.
tom on November 17, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Stargate SG-1 did it better in the episode “200.”
Campy as hell. Comedy gold.
sulla on November 17, 2008 at 5:48 PM
I hate Camp. Give me Drama.
But good drama is hard to do, so they give us camp instead, which is effortless, because it is dung.
pseudonominus on November 17, 2008 at 5:58 PM
You’ll see it. You know you will.
SoulGlo on November 17, 2008 at 5:59 PM
It’s nice to know when the chips are down they can destroy ANYTHING.
This Dawson’s Trek somehow manages to sidestep Captain Christopher Pike, the Pre-Scotty Enterprise, etc etc.
Part of what made the original so interesting WAS that StarFleet was in essence a militarized NASA. By making this some distorted version of the BoY Scout Explorers meets the Obama Youth we are faced with a massive buzzsaw to about 1/3d of the TOS canon. Showing way too much nerdese here but Kirk was on another ship when the USS Enterprise launched engaging in one of the most successful junior officer careers in the fleet….
elseways why “give” him a command “duh?”
Kirk was supposed to bring to mind the Battlefield promotions of men like Custer.
Anyway whatever I got to deal with the new BSG and have forced myself to ignore the anti-Bush ranting to enjoy the thus far most realistic look at what a militarized Space Carrier would look like, in the end I’ll tolerate Dawson Trek if for no other reason than to have it explained to me how Kirk made the initial contact with either the Klingons/and/or Romuland on the Big E and was himself responsible for all the chaos as an evil throwback American.
sven10077 on November 17, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Ya. We didn’t really see this until Voyager did it. Cool to finally see but not as cool as the transporter that spun out of it’s necessity.
thomashton on November 17, 2008 at 6:19 PM
That was the episode where the Enterprise visits a planet in which the whole society is based on thuggish behavior in twentieth century Chicago. That’s also what this country gets on January 20th!
radjah shelduck on November 17, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Anyone remember the “Lost in Space” remake from about ten years ago? I never was a fan of the original show – sorta way way way way way before my time and all. But I remember watching that movie. Lots of bang, lots of bucks, zero soul and storyline. I think it like bombed at the box office or something.
I think that’s sorta what we might be looking at….
Summer on November 17, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Hard to see how this film we be successful with all the critical faults in plot consistency being quoted just from the trailer.
Personally, I enjoy watching the orginal series on an HDTV. You can practically see the glue marks on the bridge consoles.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Nah we Trek fans are like Pavlov’s dogs….
Just ask Jorge Lucas or Steven Spielburg….
Indiana Skywalker7-We Need More of Your Dough
sven10077 on November 17, 2008 at 7:29 PM
That would also explain the love affair with Police Academy sequels.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM
I was born in ‘72, been a Trek Fan all my life and was fortunate(?)enough to remember the initial reruns.
Gene R didn’t go fullblown moonbat until Reagan or so, hell he made the series a basic metaphor for the cold war and while he dreamed of a kinder America in the form of the UFP he made the Klingons(the USSR) ruthless imperial minded sorts, the Romulans(the Red Chinese at the time) just wanting to be left the hell alone, the Orions(our SE Asian allies)greedy hypercapitalists etc etc
then the missus got in his head and as he faced his twilight he wrecked FASA’s RPG license over a supplement that *gasp* wargamed an all out balls to the floorboard three way dance between the major powers……they decried the initial analysis of the “Next Generation” as “being too militaristic” well *duh* Gene you have armed naval vessels acting as a vanguard to prevent the physical invasion of states by a foreign power and you yourself had alluded to conflicts that lasted 35 years(the Romulan war) and a war that in 4 years brought the Federation to the brink of destruction before the brilliance of Garth of Izar bailed out UFP interests in your nod to Inchon…..
anyway libs just can’t seem to ever keep their evolving political bent even out of their evolutionarily canonical environments….
StarFleet ain’t the AAA club for star campers it is the force that protects Earth and several other system’s interests and desires….you’re damned skippy I’d rather have a Kirk in charge than Gene Luck Peekard and the Midnight Basketball crew from the next series.
sven10077 on November 17, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Yes, as a dyed in the wool Trekkie from day one, I’ll be there.
Zorro on November 17, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Actually, I was looking at the listing on imdb earlier, and Christopher Pike is on there. I was surprised.
Tanya on November 17, 2008 at 8:10 PM
To be fair, she was an empath, too. Having her around to tell you when someone’s lying (or hostile, or crazy) isn’t a bad tactic.
Tanya on November 17, 2008 at 8:14 PM
How can a director print this scene? What a hollow, self conscious, mamby-pamby line this is and how incredibly badly delivered. The real James Kirk would lie about his name to a cop (or whoever that is) and smirk while doing it. The whole thing looks awful, it looks like a bad Sci-Fi Channel movie.
Laserjock on November 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I think if you check the dates. DS9 predated B5. Nevertheless, both were excellent shows.
john1schn on November 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM
bah, get over yourselves! :) The last few Trek movies sucked – badly.
About time they spiced things up. People might not feel like such huge nerds watching Trek.
spec_ops_mateo on November 17, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Deep Space 9 was the best of the ST series. I didn’t like Dr. Bashir, but the rest of the characters were good. The story lines were good, the writing was pretty good, the special effects were good enough. They should make a movie based loosely on DS9. They could even do a trilogy and make it really dramatic.
Snidely Whiplash on November 17, 2008 at 8:33 PM
I am excited for this movie.
Note my nic.
redshirt on November 17, 2008 at 3:12 PM
DON’T go on any away missions…
Gohawgs on November 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Sounds like the “spiced up” parts rewrite the narrative. If a director wants to be creative, let them actually find a untold story and make a movie out of that. Not take an established storyline and make wholesale changes. Unless the whole movie turns out better than the trailers this will be on DVD in a couple of months…
Gohawgs on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I will see it, just to see Captain Christopher Pike…………
Seven Percent Solution on November 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Michelle, I’m a President, not a Messiah!
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Not a big Trek fan, always waited for them to come out on cable to watch. But I’m intrigued to see what they do with it. It will be the first Trek movie I have ever seen in a theater.
Hog Wild on November 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM
All those Starfleet Academy people are freekin snobs allofum. Probably all got scholarships or some rich Romulan patron like O-man’s Arab shiek deeppocket.
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I stopped watching TNG after just one episode. The psychiatrist babe was on the freekin bridge of the starship looking all hot. WTF? I would have crashed my Enterprise into Starbase Albuquerque with distractions like that.
You can’t put that kind of distraction on the bridge of a zillion dollar starship. UNLESS, you give surgery to the men (and Klingons) to make them Eunuchs.
As you can tell, I’m a football fan, not a ballet fan.
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM
However, I’d make an exception for the Cuda. She be my “NUMBER 1″ and we’d be “makin it so” every night. RRRAARRRR!
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I love the original series. Hated everything else.
The original series with updated graphics would be so good.
The original series were also less PC.
The Next Generation made we want to puke. They were just soap operas and Kirk was replaced by a freakin committee on the bridge,, with of all things,, a counselor to discuss people’s feelings.
JellyToast on November 17, 2008 at 9:59 PM
That’s not a bad idea. Completely change the character of something so that more people will like it. Kinda like what the moderates are trying to do to the Republican party. We don’t know what we stand for anymore, but hey, at least the media will refer to us as human beings now. Cool!
I grew up on Star Trek and Star Wars..and it’s amazing how easy it is to destroy a childhood love of something through really bad casting. I once thought Darth Vader was one of the greatest movie villains ever; now thanks to George Lucas casting that douchetool to play Anakin in the latest round of movies, all I can do now is heckle my way through it. This movie shows the same worrying signs; what made the old Star Trek fun to watch was the cast; everything else was pure cheese. Fast forward 40 years, we have some awesome effects, but a bunch of too good looking to be true P*rn Valley refugees staggering their way through their dad’s bootleg VHS tapes trying to play characters that are almost icons. It’s not just going to be awful. It’s going to be sacrilege. Imagine Owen Wilson doing a remake of The Enforcer, playing Harry Calahan. Or what about Ben Affleck as Rooster Cogburn. This movie should not have been allowed to be made. Waily waily waily.
austinnelly on November 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Dude, you SO have to watch “Starship Troopers”.
Coed Showers!
redshirt on November 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM
a-HA…THAT’S why no males turn their heads when Seven of Nine or T’Pal walk down the corridor!
I want to believe the Abrams will bring some grit, I’m just so beat down with TNG onward. Each new series/movie was…well…you know what I mean.
Side question; who wins the battle between the Enterprise and a Star Wars Star Destroyer?
Nerds on parade…
cranbone on November 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
If you have to ask, you cain’t afford it.
Kini on November 18, 2008 at 12:52 AM
I want to love it. Doing a movie — even better, a whole series — with the original characters but a new cast is exactly the way to go. Pick up where the original Star Trek left off. Finish those exploratory missions.
But it needs to be done right, and it needs to be done with respect to the original concepts. In the original series, Kirk was extremely young for a starship captain. He was bold, and brilliant, if occasionally too incautious. But he was never just reckless.
There’s tons of room in a new Trek movie to take bold new directions without destroying what went before. Just because you don’t care about continuity doesn’t mean they don’t care, and will breathlessly watch anything you stick out there. Respect your fans, because they are the ones who will make your efforts a success, or stay home.
Why do I suddenly feel like I’m talking about the last election?
theregoestheneighborhood on November 18, 2008 at 1:57 AM
The Wrath of Khan is one of my top 10 fav guilty pleasure movies, but there doesnt appear to be any intelligent life on this new one.
I’ll let you know after I see it. :-)
(And I stopped ont he TV shows after the 2nd season of TNG and caught very few of any of the others, because I am a conservative)
sigh
John The Baptist on November 18, 2008 at 2:30 AM
Space: Above and Beyond?
Granted I only saw the pilot, but lordy that was enough.
Reaps on November 18, 2008 at 7:36 AM
Not to show my uber-geekiness, but the new series with Christian Bale is actually diving into Frank Miller’s work with Batman: Year One. Frank Miller’s acclaimed work on The Dark Knight Returns led to DC begging him to come back and do another series, and Miller agreed. Miller decided to address some things that hadn’t been brought up in detail previously, which were what happened between the murder of his parents and becoming Batman, how the relationship with Jim Gordon developed, how Batman got his fighting skills, etc. Of course, Miller’s work is a much darker and more violent than that of his predecessors, and it is less about Batman being “good” than about his being flawed and scarred by his experiences, not just with his parents being shot, but his general disdain for criminals and his love for the city his father loved and gave so much to. Chris Nolan (director of Batman Begins derived his movie directly from Year One, and Christian Bale apparently wasn’t even interested in taking on the Batman part until Nolan gave him Year One to read;
DC published TDKR in 86, and Year One came out in 87, I think. I would venture to say that the darkest Batman comics (non-graphic novel) period was probably the mid-70s, while the Batman of the 50s seems more in line with the Adam West series, which is more campy. Since West’s series ran from 66-68, I don’t see where the “darker Batman comics that predated the West series” could be an accurate statement.
BTW, for anyone interested; The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One and The Watchmen are generally acknowledged as the best comics of all time, although Miller has also gained some amount of fame for 300 and Sin City. I’m pretty excited about The Watchmen coming out, although really, knowing the ending already will pretty much ruin it for me…
Geministorm on November 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM
To me, I always thought that it was interesting that the best 2 movies (Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country) were helmed by “an outsider”; Nicolas Meyer. Again, I’m hoping Abrams can “un-castrate” the Federation and bring back some balance (good team skills / negotiating combined with a little “whup-ass” if needed).
cranbone on November 18, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Enterprise and the original ST seem to be more gungho and thinking about only humans/earth with their actions and involvement. I’m guessing that later, the Federation puts its foot down and tends to get captains that are more political or “castrated”. Shame that…
Geministorm on November 18, 2008 at 10:46 AM
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