Video: Great moments in awkward photo-op history
posted at 2:05 pm on November 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Can you feel the enthusiasm? I ask you.
Easy peasy prediction on two things that won’t come out of this: A cabinet appointment for McCain, who’ll have a lot more influence in the Senate as a broker between Obama and the GOP than as The One’s de facto withdrawal czar at Defense, and an immigration bill, notwithstanding Grahamnesty’s high hopes. Maverick would doubtless be all for the latter, but what incentive does Obama have to push divisive legislation that would tempt Blue Dogs to defect when he has so much else to worry about? The path to reelection runs through stabilizing the economy and disarming Iranian nukes and the Taliban. Everything else is gravy. If he can do all three, even Zombie Reagan wouldn’t beat him in 2012.
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The aid he gives to Obama in the coming term will define him, I think. It will be a sharp contrast to his treatment of the Bush administration and will do him no honor, but rather confirm his lack of identification with the Republican party. At least that’s my expectation.
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Riiiight. Us “RINO’s” will sit the next two out and let you guys shriek yourselves into well deserved irrelevance.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:20 PM
He backed Bush on alot of his misadventures.
There is a reason Obama had no trouble branding him as Bush II.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:21 PM
As long as you vote for a conservative republican, I don’t give a s**t what you do.
HornetSting on November 17, 2008 at 3:21 PM
I found your post extremely UNreasonable. All of science is about looking for patterns and rules that are reproducible, according to an ordered universe. If everything were truly random, science wouldn’t exist. And yet when conservatives bring up the same issue about evolution theory… we’re the ones in the dark ages?
Intelligent design is simply applying statistics and pattern logic to biology, and realizing that there is no way in which totally random processes could have produced the results you so blindly tout.
The problem you have isn’t with intelligent design, but with what it implies. However, someone truly interested in science would follow the data no matter where it led.
But perhaps you think science should be less about questioning and more about programmed responses…
dominigan on November 17, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I’ll bet you Obama had preconditions before meeting with McCain.
Darksean on November 17, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Don’t take this the wrong way, but believing in intelligent design/creationism is irrational, and therefore insane. You don’t have to believe in creation to believe in God. Hell, even the Vatican has acknowledged evolution as an obvious fact of human history. Seriously, this issue makes the USA the most retarded and mocked country in the developed world, and with good reason. It needs to disappear, right now and forever. And in case you were wondering, no hostility towards the idea of God here. I just don’t believe in magic, fantasy tales.
Baphomet on November 17, 2008 at 3:28 PM
I will vote for the candidate who best respresents my values and the things I care about.
As for congress, I will vote for the guy who represents my community. I voted against the R in my district this time because, while you would probably drool all over him as a True Conservative, he was a disgrace as a Congressman, missing more votes than all the other 434 and sponsoring or presenting 2 bills in 12 years.
I live in “True Consevative” hell (Jacksonville), a place where the Republicans do nothing but talk and talk about “values” and “faith” but practice nothing resembling reasonable leadership. The only good officials in this town are the “RINO’s” and the Blue Dogs.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:28 PM
And a heretic too? Solid.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:30 PM
I think you grossly over-estimate the effect of the McSame label. But suit yourself if it fits your theme.
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Well stated, all that I can think of when evolutionists dimiss ID is the fact that they refuse to listen to actual science as opposed to theory. Show me one thing that has evolved and what species it evolved from and I might begin to take you serious. The statistical likelihood of life forming in a random series of so astronomical as to be absurd. Flat earthers the lot of them.
thomasaur on November 17, 2008 at 3:32 PM
So, you like RINOS and DEMS. Makes sense. Knock yourself out.
HornetSting on November 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM
How do you figure, I live in a swing state in a HIGHLY republican part of it, the McSame label permiated into every swing voter I talked to and I talked to alot of them.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM
How is that. You TC’s are the ones who keep electing boobs like Ander Crenshaw again and again.
I have voted for exactly two Dems in my life, so dont go making silly presumptions (which seems to be a favorite pastime of you TC’s)
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Having the rino (your)canadate sure didn’t help in this election. Why the F@@ck would anybody care if you guys sit the next election out.
STFU
kangjie on November 17, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Human beings evolved from primates.
Check that pesky fossil record obviously planted there by the “flat Earthers” if you have any questions.
Oh? Would you be so kind as to inform us all as to the “statistical likelihood” that a sky father of whom no evidence exists and whom nobody has ever actually seen snapped its fingers one day in the not-too-distant-past (10,000 years ago or so) and magically “POOFED” everything into existence?
Humor us with the statistics. I’m interested.
Good Lt on November 17, 2008 at 3:37 PM
It was a historically democratic year. The only thing Obama had to do was to not let the election be a referendum on him, which he did successfully. McCain was, in many ways, irrelevant. A fact augmented by the way he ran in campaign.
I don’t doubt you, but I can’t contend anecdotal evidence, obviously. My opinion was formed for the polls that I saw running up to the election show that people didn’t think McCain was Bush 3. They just didn’t pick him.
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Conservatives: McCain worked with Ted F’ing Kennedy to bring amnesty for illegal immigrants!
McCain worshipers: TRAITORS! TREASON! IF YOU DON’T VOTE FOR MCCAIN YOU BRING DEATH, DESTRUCTION, AND APOCALYPSE ON US ALL!!! QUIT WHINING ABOUT AMNESTY!
Conservatives: McCain still sucks.
Election comes, Obama wins.
Conservatives: Yep, that’s about what we figured.
McCain worshipers: WHEN DID WE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT AMNESTY?? ENJOY YOUR PRESIDENT OBAMA AND DARKNESS FOR ALL TIME!
Conservatives: We voted for McCain, just like you said. It didn’t work.
McCain worshipers: *sputter* IT WAS ALL PALIN’S FAULT!
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Yeah, I hear people say that, too. They’re called “democrats”.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 3:41 PM
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM
lol
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Squid Shark and Good Lt,
It’s sad, but it often turns into a losing battle. These people just don’t get it.
Baphomet on November 17, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Mismanaged, with a VP pick made hastily (by McCain), a VP who wasnt ready, in a year where Republicans were gonna get creamed anyways.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Clearly you have never lived in Jacksonville.
Or as I call it “Republican Detroit”
If Detroit is an example of a great city destroyed by democratic rule. Jacksonville is an example of a city which could be great but is run by North Florida-type Republicans.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM
It is indeed sad that reason takes a back-seat to superstition.
Or maybe they don’t want to get it. I can understand that.
I’d still like to get a load of this “statistical” improbability that life didn’t just form in a crack of lightning one random day from some guy “just because.”
I need a good laugh. This isn’t a slam on Christianity (or Judaism). It’s a slam on creationism, which is in this day and age, nothing more than denial.
Good Lt on November 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM: Troll
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM: Clown
wise_man on November 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Uh huh. Come on. It was so much more fun when you accused us of high crimes for daring to sully the name of the Chosen.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM
I’m sorry you don’t have a sense of humor. Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, hyperbole is funny. Pity for you.
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Funny, Here is how I would have written it in your fantasy world.
“RINO’s”: is not a good pick, this is a down year for Republicans, the “purists” increasingly marginalized in the center and president Bush’s appeal with independents is shot.
worshipers: Whatever we dont need you,
we won without you in 92 and 96we can win without you G-d dammit.“RINO’s”: McCain still sucks.
Election comes, Obama wins by 15%.
“RINO’s”: Yep, that’s about what we figured.
worshipers: WHY DIDNT WE WIN, IT MUST HAVE BEEN ACORN, IT MUST HAVE BEEN ILLEGALS VOTING, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE DIDNT BELIEVE OUR MESSAGE OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. WHY IS THE SILENT MAJORITY NOT RESPONDING TO “NO ABORTION, NO GAY MARRIAGE, LETS SOCIALISM! REPEATED OVER AND OVER. ENJOY YOUR PRESIDENT OBAMA AND DARKNESS FOR ALL TIME!
“RINO’s”: We voted for , just like we did in 2000 and 2004 even though we didnt like everything he had to say, It didn’t work.
McCain worshipers: *sputter* IT WAS ALL THE RINO’S FAULT. ACORN, AMNESTY, ABORTION, GAYS, *BOOM*
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM
McCain is the king RINO. That’s why the RINOs liked him. Not sure how you’re figuring they didn’t.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Disregard my last, technical difficulty:
Funny, Here is how I would have written it in your fantasy world.
“RINO’s”: [Insert Generic "True" Conservatives name here] is not a good pick, this is a down year for Republicans, the “purists” increasingly marginalized in the center and president Bush’s appeal with independents is shot.
[Insert Generic "True" Conservatives name here] worshipers: Whatever we dont need you,
we won without you in 92 and 96we can win without you G-d dammit.“RINO’s”: [Insert Generic "True" Conservatives name here] still sucks.
Election comes, Obama wins by 15%.
“RINO’s”: Yep, that’s about what we figured.
[Insert Generic "True" Conservatives name here] worshipers: WHY DIDNT WE WIN, IT MUST HAVE BEEN ACORN, IT MUST HAVE BEEN ILLEGALS VOTING, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE DIDNT BELIEVE OUR MESSAGE OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. WHY IS THE SILENT MAJORITY NOT RESPONDING TO “NO ABORTION, NO GAY MARRIAGE, LETS SOCIALISM! REPEATED OVER AND OVER. ENJOY YOUR PRESIDENT OBAMA AND DARKNESS FOR ALL TIME!
“RINO’s”: We voted for , just like we did in 2000 and 2004 even though we didnt like everything he had to say, It didn’t work.
[Insert Generic "True" Conservatives name here] worshipers: *sputter* IT WAS ALL THE RINO’S FAULT. ACORN, AMNESTY, ABORTION, GAYS, *BOOM* [Head Explodes]
Fixed
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM
If humans evolved from primates why do primates exist in the form we find them today? Just my own opinion and observation. As for stats read Wm. Dembski Ph. D. in mathematics U. of Chicago, just 2 of his works are Design Inference and Design Revolution. I won’t clog the blog with something that some don’t care to hear but if you are interested in studying design from a scientific and not religious aspect it is available.
thomasaur on November 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM
See corrected copy below, I suck bad today.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM
My eyes hurt from reading that. Try it in Word first, next time.
MadisonConservative on November 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM
It is called divergent evolution. Common ancestor, different branches.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Ditto for yours.
The point being, we were gonna get creamed. With “Generic True Conservative” we had the same chance that the Citadel has against the Gators this weekend.
With McCain we had more of a South Carolina v. UF situation, we still got creamed but there was a chance we would make a game of it.
Squid Shark on November 17, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Nonsense. Flat Earther!
Statistical probability says it was the magical-finger-snap-10,000-years-ago.
:-)
I’m interested in studying science, not design.
PS – What created God? What is God made of?
OT, I know.
Good Lt on November 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM
If God made us in His image, we have certainly returned the compliment.
- Voltaire
semloh on November 17, 2008 at 4:39 PM
sigh
We saw it with Billy Jeff and we will see it again—8 years of misery. The difference? The damage done by Bill was to our culture—mostly moral. Barry? Everything else AND that.
We may never recover.
If Reagan came along now–and was 25 yrs younger than he was in 80–he still wouldn’t win.
John The Baptist on November 17, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Sweet. We have a ‘Sup President.
Seixon on November 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Hey! I like those goalposts. Can we set them in concrete right now?
If I understand the Obama plan to stabilize the economy it’s to spend like a shipload of drunken sailors and be damned the deficit.
Iran will not be disarmed and by the time Obama gets to 2011 they will have a nuclear weapon.
Taliban as in Afghanistan? Now there’s the 100 year war Obama was looking for.
Texas Gal on November 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM
I never could figure out out whether McCain is supposed to be Brett or Bart Maverick.
Done That on November 17, 2008 at 5:49 PM
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leepro on November 17, 2008 at 6:01 PM
McCain’s on the left.
Appropriate.
sulla on November 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I honestly don’t understand what’s the difference with becoming a Democrat. If the Democrat brand becomes as “damaged” after Obama as the Republican is at the moment, the hangers-on will be hanging on again. Variable as the wind.
ddrintn on November 17, 2008 at 6:48 PM
They both want power more than the security of the country or the future of the nation as a Republic of laws.
*spit* x 2.
profitsbeard on November 17, 2008 at 8:10 PM
McCain was wearing knee pads and Gramnesty looked jealous that he didn’t get a pair.
csdeven on November 17, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Scary four years to go… . And a lot of backbiting!G-d willing we will survive to win the next election
beachkatie on November 17, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Jimmy Carter only lasted 4 years People. We service his MISHAPS!! THEN REAGAN WAS VOTED IN!!! REMEMBER THAT!!
beachkatie on November 17, 2008 at 10:02 PM
McCain really should have run in 1996. He would have been better than Bob Dole and might have even narrowly won.
Speedwagon82 on November 17, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Don’t over-react to this meeting. Wait to see what John McCain does in the upcoming years. It is one thing, particularly for someone in an older generation, to promise at this kind of meeting to help a new administration. It is another thing actually to help.
John McCain probably feels some opposite pulls. On the one hand, if Obama actually consults with McCain about foreign policy and McCain can persuade Obama away from craziness, then McCain would feel an obligation to the country to “help.” It is doubtful that Obama would do that type of consulting. On the other hand, in the Senate, McCain can “help” by obstructing unwise Obama policies from getting anywhere.
Phil Byler on November 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
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