Quote of the day
posted at 10:40 pm on November 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“[I]t is disappointing to watch what some have called the ‘year of the woman’ come to such an embarrassing conclusion. This was an election cycle in which candidates pandered to female voters, newsweeklies tried to figure out ‘what women want,’ and Hillary Clinton garnered 18 million votes toward winning the Democratic nomination. The assumption was that these ‘18 million cracks in the highest glass ceiling,’ as Clinton put it, would advance the prospects of female achievement and gender equality. It hasn’t exactly worked out that way.
In the grand Passion play that was this election, both Clinton and Palin came to represent—and, at times, reinforce—two of the most pernicious stereotypes that are applied to women: the bitch and the ditz.”
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Shame, shame, shame on all the guilty. And by guilty, I mean feminists.
qestout on November 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Which is Osama Obama: bitch or ditz?
MrScribbler on November 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Kind of interesting, though a bit long-winded.
I don’t think I agree either. Yes, the opposition tried to cast those themes on the candidates, but Clinton’s clout is still evidenced by the SoS dance that’s going on right now, and Palin is the standard-bearer – or if not standard-bearer, the crowd-assembler of the GOP.
Spirit of 1776 on November 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Insert “liberal” and I’ll agree with you in Palin’s case.
In Hillary’s case, it was mostly male misogynists.
Y-not on November 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Okay!
qestout on November 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Typical liberal………. let’s just go to the personal attacks and “talking points”.
……… this article is only worth a bowel movement if I decided to print it out.
What, no mention to the “spin” for Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama, President Elect, the Office of?
………… pathetic. Nice quote to end the day Allah.
Seven Percent Solution on November 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Now I know it’s a slow news nite…lol !! later
jerrytbg on November 17, 2008 at 11:04 PM
One big problem as I see it…
Bitch – Clinton – fact
Ditz – Palin – fiction
katy on November 17, 2008 at 11:06 PM
From a male perspective, thus totally unqualified to comment on women, I will nonetheless make the observation that when a woman strives to be as good as or better than a male, she is too often immediately denigrated, and by women as well as men, for all sorts of reasons.
Since 1984 three women have attempted legitimate campaigns for president or vice president. The presidential aspirant lost in the primaries, and from my perspective, race was a factor that loomed large but was left unspoken. As for the two VP aspirants, Ferraro and Palin, seems the contender at the top of the ticket in both instances failed to pull his own weight.
But, let’s look at the dynamics? In a perfect world, would Hillary have even been considered a viable candidate had she not rode her husband’s coattails to the Senate? In the cases of Ferraro and Palin, had they been at the top of the ticket, would the outcome have been different, or would they have garnered significantly more votes, assuming that they would have lost?
Powerful women still scare voters…not all, but enough to skew their chances. And to somehow rationalize their loses, one has to come up with an appropriate shorthand…bitch or ditz. Women who aspire to power…well, the monikers used to describe them usually go far beyond bitch or ditz…and not just men use these terms.
[This election season, my two daughters, 15 years apart both believed Palin would lose simply because she was a woman. One voted for McCain, the other voted for Nader.]
coldwarrior on November 17, 2008 at 11:06 PM
I couldn’t even finish reading the rest of that article.When that woman launched into all the debunked stories about Sarah Palin as if no one had told her they were completely false I knew this was just some left-wing harpy clip job gloating that Sarah got humiliated because she could never live up to her shadow and it intimidated her.
What was even worse was how she talked of Hillary’s campaign as if it was majestic attempt to reach for the gold when in fact it was a horribly weak campaign as she should have easily knocked out Barack but for the clip job the MSM laid on her.
The lady has a lot of nerve calling Sarah Palin a ditz.I bet Amanda can’t even keep her purse organized and she is criticizing a sitting Governor as if her opinion is important.
Very lame.
NeoKong on November 17, 2008 at 11:08 PM
i’m not reading the article if the snippet is ANY indication of the vapidity of it …
/sigh …
Buckaroo on November 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM
I am a woman, and would have never voted for Hillary either. I don’t need her help in being equal.
sheebe on November 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Well, at least after this column we know which of the two Ms. Fortini represents.
It's Vintage, Duh on November 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Too bad, Hillary was loved because of who she wasn’t. Sara was hated because of who she was.
sheriff246 on November 17, 2008 at 11:14 PM
The author lost credibility when seems to buy the wardrobe stories and thinks it important that Palin didn’t fall for Couric’s bait with the “magazine” question. Or, she forgot to mention that Charlie Gibson got the Bush Doctrine answer wrong.
In the end, the author whines about how promoting an unqualified woman for a job ends up being a set back for women as a whole. Of course she can’t see the same concern about electing an unqualified black man for president could end up being a set back for black people as a whole.
Mallard T. Drake on November 17, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Assuming McCain would have lost regardless, who would you have preferred to win the Dem primary, Hillary or the One?
I think I would have picked her since we are getting Clinton redux anyway.
I wish the libs could come up with a different line of attack against Repbulicans. The dumb thing is getting a little old and tired – just like the Obama/Clinton administration.
msmveritas on November 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Where do you find these pictures of Hillary? M. Malkin has hilarious pics of her too. I say hilarious but they actually scare me!!
Ozark_sky on November 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
#1: Keep it up on Palin you New York elites. There are only a few of you, the rest of us live in the real world where people are expected to work, live on a budget, and pay their bills. Excuse us if choose not to follow your example and live in a city with rats large as a small dog.
#2:
There is no answer to that, been married 23 years and I still don’t have a clue. ;)
Hog Wild on November 17, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Don’t even bother. They don’t know what they want, either.
:p
blatantblue on November 17, 2008 at 11:40 PM
It’s so nice that Allah reads this stuff so we won’t have to. But, wait… then he tries to sucker us into it too. Not falling for it, AP. I know without clicking the link what this person has in common with the Hillary caricature.
Buford Gooch on November 17, 2008 at 11:47 PM
What I wanna know is this: Which one is Osama Obama, bitch or ditz?
MrScribbler on November 17, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Saw this article earlier today. Total snarky female sh*t IMHO, and oh, by the way, I’m a woman. Don’t even want to expend the effort to debunk her argument it’s so lame. And besides, I have an estrogen headache. (Last sentence, sarc).
Sarah rocks, and the fact that the Repub Govs have their nasty little claws out, and the “I wanna be the heir apparents” do too, is just too, too funny.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 11:56 PM
clip job the MSM and the DNC laid on her. FIFY
The primary results of two states were thrown out. Anyone who thinks that is ethical, fair or constitutional is on glue. The Dem base will never complain, though.
Hillary should have been the first to complain, but she went along with it, thinking she would win in the end. Boy, was she dumb or delusional. That’s where the MSM came in.
Then she went along with the whole scam and helped the fraud get elected. Whatever, but I lost all respect for her.
chunderroad on November 18, 2008 at 12:10 AM
“Shame on you Barack Obama!” -Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“Palling around with terrorists.” -Sarah Palin.
At least the ladies had more balls than the men when it came to hitting the crypto-Marxist weasel where it mattered.
The guys were all afraid of wounding his sacrosanct (half-)blackness.
profitsbeard on November 18, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Interesting how Sarah is still such a threat isn’t it?
The difference between Hillary and Sarah is that Sarah actually enjoys baking cookies.
Texas Gal on November 18, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Assuming McCain would have lost regardless, who would you have preferred to win the Dem primary, Hillary or the One?
I think I would have picked her since we are getting Clinton redux anyway.
I wish the libs could come up with a different line of attack against Repbulicans. The dumb thing is getting a little old and tired – just like the Obama/Clinton administration.
msmveritas on November 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Would have rather Hillary. If it was that. You are right it is getting old. And he hasn’t even started yet.
sheebe on November 18, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Color me unimpressed. Why the topic is certainly salient — bitch v. ditz, or a nouveau Madonna-Whore dichotomy — the author doesn’t do the topic any service in her partisan trashing of Sarah Palin.
She attempts to discuss this “very serious issue” but ultimately acts no better than the so-called feminists that dogged Palin for the very “ditz” applique they smeared her with; to wit, the author essentially resigns to saying Palin was “asking for it” — a trait any liberal feminist would sniff out as a sexist parallel to justifying rape.
So while an interesting topic, this was a crappy article. Others with a far smaller pulpit from which to print have said far more, and yet still maintained their “liberal” lens from which to perceive this phenomenon.
I highly recommend anyone here to read this post by Anglachel, a Hillary Clinton supporter, entitled “The Lady Killers.”
Exit quotation from that link:
And, that, my friends, is something you can take to the bank.
lansing quaker on November 18, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Just saw this referenced on Hannity. No one here will be surprised how ill informed Obama voters were. They all seemed to know about Palin’s wardrobe though. The in-the-tank media did their job, too bad there wasn’t any return fire from the McCain campaign.
msmveritas on November 18, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Damn straight chunderroad
Hillary got screwed.Her own party took away her delegates.
NeoKong on November 18, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Amanda Fortini – OK, let’s clarify.
Bitch, Ditz, and Dyke.
Kini on November 18, 2008 at 12:56 AM
And as a Michigan voter, I’ll never forget that. My Hillary Clinton vote was effectively stolen.
lansing quaker on November 18, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Oh yay! Another article by another dried up, bitter old feminist who has not had an orgasm since the early 1970’s.
They just hate the fact that Sarah Palin is happy, beautiful, intelligent, grounded woman with a loving husband & family. Sarah has it all and this withered old “elite” has her job.
Crystald on November 18, 2008 at 1:00 AM
A point with some merit there, profitsbeard.
Spirit of 1776 on November 18, 2008 at 1:25 AM
In addition to the video I referenced above, you can see the results of a Zogby poll of 512 educated Obama voters at How Obama got Elected website:
.5% got all answers correct (seriously that’s 1/2 of 1%), 2.4% got 11/12 correct.
msmveritas on November 18, 2008 at 1:58 AM
Answer: Everything! Now!.
OldEnglish on November 18, 2008 at 1:58 AM
If Hillary and Palin’s life stories and politics were reversed Obama would still be wondering what the hell happened.
The media has chosen an unvetted radical liberal for our Pres.
Speakup on November 18, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Yeah, isn’t that what they all were preaching they could have, and then never got? And how dare some hick from BFE, Alaska get it?
fireweednectar on November 18, 2008 at 2:09 AM
The question still remains whether Sarah Palin has a future outside of Alaska. Does she?
Crux Australis on November 18, 2008 at 3:43 AM
What an apt matchup, unqualified-to-be-President Obama picks unqualified-to-be-Secretary-of-State Hillary Clinton.
DavePa on November 18, 2008 at 5:16 AM
Hillary even mentioned “the slum lord” Rezko, which should have sent the media off to investigate but they couldn’t. The were in love.
Cindy Munford on November 18, 2008 at 5:42 AM
It was the feminists and the left who used identity politics hatred as a means to destroy a women they saw as a mortal threat. It will make victory in 2012 that much sweeter.
rob verdi on November 18, 2008 at 6:20 AM
I would have taken a different approach to the article. Probably would have started it this way: In the year of the woman, it was telling to witness how women turn on their own in the most vicious, vile manner…
sheesh on November 18, 2008 at 7:27 AM
If we have to keep reading about Hillary, can we at least get a better picture? This one is giving me nightmares.
anniekc on November 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM
Hillary Photo Gallery
RushBaby on November 18, 2008 at 8:18 AM
I think we are all a little bit dumber for having read that. What a load of _____. I just don’t get how the hatred can be that intense. Anyone?
todler on November 18, 2008 at 8:25 AM
Hillary Photo Gallery
Oh my. That was all kinds of disturbing. Hill’s not aging very well. My fave was when she was reading to the children. They must have been very bad to have been punished that way.
anniekc on November 18, 2008 at 8:29 AM
I love how the purported feminist’s article completely skirts Palin’s actual career accomplishments and continues to serve as a transmission belt for a host of the smears against her.
Not just thematically off, badly written too.
DrSteve on November 18, 2008 at 8:40 AM
The sad part is that the catty jealous 8itches from the right (Noonan, Parker, et al) had as much to do with the image created for Palin as do the narrative from the MSM. It at the least, solidified it among certain RINO’s in the party.
csdeven on November 18, 2008 at 8:42 AM
Hillary good, Palin bad…. ok got it….
johnnyU on November 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM
The article from which the quote was taken is a whining, narcissistic fembot rant. The complaint seems to be that female candidates are not automatically viewed as “I am Woman, hear me ROAR!” but instead are viewed as the human beings that they are.
The truth is, Hillary Clinton is a bitch, and I’m not just saying “aggressive.” She is arguably one of the most dishonest, conniving, vindictive human beings on the planet, and that’s saying a great deal. And while I don’t agree that Sarah Palin is a ditz, she did give two very bad interviews early on, “stupid” is the press’ default for Republicans, and it’s arguable that the treatment of Palin by the press pretty closely tacked their treatment of Dan Quayle.
Does the author think the culture should pretend such things as infants, clothes, breasts, and lipstick don’t exist?
philwynk on November 18, 2008 at 9:23 AM
The powers-that-be certainly believe she does — or else why would they be expending so much energy trying to destroy her?
AZCoyote on November 18, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Does she realize this and what is she doing about it?
Crux Australis on November 18, 2008 at 9:59 AM
A bit of both,I’m afraid.
FIFY
Uh, uh. Ain’t gonna do it.
davidk on November 18, 2008 at 10:30 AM
If she was man, she’d be the de facto leader of the GOP-conservative wing.
You hairy-legs, step back and watch Sarah to see how it’s done.
Sarah’cuda
davidk on November 18, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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