Guardian: Hillary says yes; Update: Or does she?
posted at 7:27 pm on November 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The golden age begins, my friends.
Hillary Clinton plans to accept the job of secretary of state offered by Barack Obama, who is reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration, the Guardian has learned…
Clinton would be well placed to become the country’s dominant voice in foreign affairs, replacing Condoleezza Rice. Since being elected senator for New York, she has specialised in foreign affairs and defence. Although she supported the war in Iraq, she and Obama basically agree on a withdrawal of American troops.
Clinton, who still harbours hopes of a future presidential run, had to weigh up whether she would be better placed by staying in the Senate, which offers a platform for life, or making the more uncertain career move to the secretary of state job.
The main stumbling block, supposedly, is the risk of governments trying to buy influence by donating to Bill’s charity, but (a) the public’s already assumed that risk, albeit to a lesser extent, per her role in the Senate and (b) like Conason says, it’s hard to believe The One would have made her an offer unless he’d already been given comfort about any major conflicts of interest lurking in the financial disclosures. Plus, it’s not like Billy Jeff’s an unmitigated liability: The only reason there are potential conflicts in the first place is because the Clintons have a preexisting line of political credit with the sorts of people she’ll be leaning on in her new job.
I never thought I’d see the day when the Standard, Commentary, and yours truly were all (relatively) pleased with Hillary Clinton being given a cabinet post, but here we are. Goes to show how much she rehabilitated herself with the right during the campaign, and how far a little Iran hawkishness can go in winning conservative hearts. And the best part? We’ll never want for drama again. Exit question: Er, why would the Guardian know this when American news outlets don’t?
Update: Hitch? Slightly less pleased.
Update: If the Guardian’s right then the news is breaking late, because both WaPo and CNN claimed this afternoon that Clinton’s finances were still being vetted. Maybe she accepted conditionally, i.e. if they pass the vetting?
Update: Ace says he’ll be surprised if she takes the job, as will I for reasons stated here. The only logic to it that I can see is if she thinks she can broker some sort of Mideast peace or deal with Iran that’ll secure her legacy.
Update: Peter Beinart doesn’t get it either, and wonders how Hillary’s going to deal with oversight not just from The One but from his NSA. I think that part of it, at least, is overblown: There’s no sense that Stephen Hadley has Condi Rice on some sort of short leash, for instance, and I’m sure Her Majesty would demand on some sort of concession from Obama up front about how free a hand she’d have.
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Just an example about how overrated or underrated Senate “experience” can be. Clinton has little, Obama less, McCain and Biden have more and in the right areas but they are the big losers after this election.
McCain is essentially persona non grata among real Republicans for the way they were thrown under the straight talk express. Biden will actually become the VP but has been so absent from any discussion during and after the elections I’m beginning to think we need to put milk carton labels on bourbon bottles.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM
It is a little weird he didn’t take Kerry though. I mean he owes the guy huge by basically giving him his first shot of national exposure. (I’m not downplaying this, that speech in 2004 is the start of everything for him. Without it he wouldn’t have even been in the running for the 2007 campaign plus the early endorsement didn’t hurt either hurt.) Oh who am I kidding, he threw his grammy under the bus when it to his political advantage so no surprise he’d do the same thing to the guy who’s basically responsible for him being prez. Still, I don’t get what he gets out of this. (I mean if it’s to stop her running in 2012 he doesn’t need to do this. If he’s popular enough to win re-election then he’d beat any other dem easily. If not, well then all dems are up the creek anyway.)
Dave_d on November 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Yup. Obama slashes the defense budget and McCain is left twisting in the wind.
Dee2008 on November 17, 2008 at 8:25 PM
I would be embarrassed to have that pompas ass John Kerry in the post, a walking talking sleeping pill.
Cindy Munford on November 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Uhh…how exactly is she qualified for this job? We’re going from Condoleeza Rice, to Hillary Clinton? Jesus. One is clearly intellectually superior to the other.
therightwinger on November 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM
Sounds like something Obama would do, it would certainly take her out of the picture in 2012. But if this report is accurate and she takes the position, I sure hope Obama has somebody other than Joe Biden to rely on for foreign policy expertise!
ProfessorMiao on November 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Well, yeah. He is quite a popular person.
Dennis Miller said, “That marriage couldn’t be more about convenience if there was a Slurpee machine at the end of the bed.”
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM
She’ll still be in her 60’s. That ain’t old at all. Especially for a woman. I don’t really see who could beat Hillary in 2016.
SoulGlo on November 17, 2008 at 8:28 PM
lol…
If reincarnation does exist, I want to come back as Dennis Miller’s brain… (or my dog)
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:30 PM
good points, C W. personally, given some of the others on the LEft who might be picked instead, I am Ok with Hillary. But your points re very salient, as I believe it’s probably some rather nasty things are going to occur Internationally in the next two years..
Red State State of Mind on November 17, 2008 at 8:31 PM
She’ll be 68 in 2016, and much was made of McCain’s age this time around.
ProfessorMiao on November 17, 2008 at 8:31 PM
In reading all the positive comments about Hillary C. on this thread ( I am one ,too) all I can think about is how the bar has been set soooo LOW.
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:33 PM
You didn’t really see who could beat Hillary in 2008 either.
Geochelone on November 17, 2008 at 8:34 PM
How many times will we have to witness the Tuzla Tape???She’s a fool in the making and will be dumped in 2010. And McCain…Sec of Defense/ Can’t remember Shia and Sunni?
Tells me BO wants them out of the way so he can have his way with domestics.
gracie on November 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Has Hitch ever been pleased?
MB4 on November 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Hillary’s term would be filled this way:
1. Gov. Patterson would appoint a replacement who would serve until the next regular election in 2010;
2. In 2010, an election would be held. The winner would serve until 2012 (the conclusion of Sen. Clinton’s term); and
3. In 2012, another election would be held for a regular six-year term.
http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S662411.shtml?cat=10112
This sets up two NY senatorial elections in 2010 (with the regular expiration of Schumer’s 2nd term). Unfortunately, the NY Republican party sucks and only Guiliani would have a chance.
NYCcon on November 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Is a bullfrog waterproof?
hillbillyjim on November 17, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Second only to the NJ GOP
joey24007 on November 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Umm, you all are missing the most important aspect of this:
An open US Senate seat in New York.
Not that we Republicans would have a great chance of winning her seat. But it’s a chance none-the-less.
Does Patterson get to appoint an interim replacement, or is there a special election?
Anybody know any prominent New York Republicans who could run for the seat?
We need someone with Gravitas, and also a Social Moderate.
Anyone?
ericdondero on November 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Beth -
You are not exhibiting the proper reverence for this incoming administration and the POTUS – Elect. We are dealing here with superior intellects. At least I think so. We still have not seen any of his school grades or thesis.***snort***
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Are you calling Hillary graceless? I’d agree. Diplomacy requires a certain vocabulary and set of skills that Hillary simply doesn’t have. Even failed SECSTATES like Albright and Powell understood that they had to speak in measured tones and broad sweeping meaningless rhetoric for about 90% of their workday.
A SECSTATE can never make it “all about me” which is a Clinton signature tactic. It’s also not the place to hang out if Hillary has visions that Obama will so screw things up she’ll be in a position to run for the Presidency in four years because she’d have to use that valuable political time supporting Bambi’s administration (which she would be a part of).
My guess is that there will be a great show of attempting to “find” a place for one or both of the Clintons in the upcoming regime. The offers will actually be poison pills for future political aspirations (which means Hillary needs to stay in the Senate where the morons from NY assure her employment for life). Even Obama is shrewd enough to understand that you don’t put a Clinton in place where they can leverage their own agenda.
As to your “loose cannon” theory, I don’t see it. Contrary to all the hype, Obama is not entering the Presidency from a position of strength. He doesn’t have a mandate by any measure. Fully half the nation distrusts his motives and is concerned about his utter lack of experience or qualification beyond the age/birth requirements of the Constitution. Any missteps by Obama’s cabinet will be blamed on his lack of qualification for office and inexperience. He simply doesn’t have the luxury of allowing Hillary Clinton hang herself in the court of public opinion.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Beinart: “I don’t think we need to know.”
It’s amazing how quickly Clinton politics return. Obama hasn’t even moved in!
apollyonbob on November 17, 2008 at 8:41 PM
She bends forward and oh so gently takes it up the ass.
Coronagold on November 17, 2008 at 8:41 PM
That was actually very interesting. Despite his love for Obama, Matthews still has some lingering disgust for the Clintons. He certainly didn’t go easy on Eddie Haskell. Meanwhile, the Hitch states what we all know, that the Clintons are corrupt to the bone, but no one wants to hear it. As usual.
Jim-Rose on November 17, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Has Hitch ever been pleased?
MB4 on November 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Who cares? Both Hitch and Chrissy are going have to work very hard to make their guy, Barry, a success which is what they both seemed determined to do. They’re already annoyed, frowning, looking twitching, peeved and rumpled.
Now that Hitch has backed Barry I guess we can look forward to more of his appearances on MSNBC? Bwahahahahahahaha….. the perfect venue for an misguided intellectual like the Hitch.
Cody1991 on November 17, 2008 at 8:43 PM
I admit it, I voted for the Faux New Yorker in 2000. I disliked Lazio so much I sent that woman to Washington.
Now if she is SOS in Bizarro world I have to apologize to the entire planet.
My Bad.
DeweyWins on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
what’s funny with your post, KJ, is that you managed a statement containing both an Obama reference and the word “snort”.. a coke reference… you have proven your superior intellect!
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
As has been noted several times at HotAir, these folks don’t handle winning very well. You would think that anything Mr. Obama decided would be acceptable to Chris Matthews.
Cindy Munford on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Hey, I’m embarrassed to have him as the Jr. Senator of Massachusetts.
I took two whacks at him and still struck out (Dem Primary and General Election).
BKennedy on November 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Not weird at all and why I don’t think Hillary is the first choice either. Obama isn’t coming to office in a position of strength. Kerry or Clinton (either) brings so much baggage that would be the story instead of whatever the hell Obama wants to accomplish- not that the bastard has ever made that clear.
With either a Clinton or Kerry choice, the story would always be a comparison about what Obama wants as opposed to the “what ifs” that are far more fun to consider than a SECSTATE on message for his/her boss.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Well, that was unconscious. Kinda like Biden in front of a mic.
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Obama really doesn’t want to do any work does he. He is hiring out a shadow government…while he eats pancakes and plays basketball.
tomas on November 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Exactly! What happenned to papers being released after election (i.e. Michelle’s thesis etc…).
OT: Also all Obama’s pals, Ayers and such, have no problem talking since the one won. Lord help us.
Kevin in Southern Illinois on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Quite the rogues gallery of little commie heathens we’re going to be ruled by.
ErinF on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Quite possibly one of the funniest things I have read all day. I laughed out loud
SoCalInfidel on November 17, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Speaking of what ifs… do you think Obama had Hill and Kerry do a “french Off” to win the job? He wouldn’t want an American oversees doing the embarrassing, only one language speakin’ “Parlay Voooo” stuff… (What other language does Hill speak anyway?)
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Hillary and Obama on MadTV… just for laughs. (Content warning)
ErinF on November 17, 2008 at 8:53 PM
I remember hearing part of his testimony to Congress in the Winter Solider hearing, and he said that if we left Vietnam that some folks would die but it would be relatively few and it would be better for the U.S. Now that’s a very rough paraphrase but I have never understood why he hasn’t ever been confronted with that massive miscalculation. My oldest son is living in MA right now. Southern boy isn’t goofing on it too much.
Cindy Munford on November 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
beththebaker on November 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Simple, darlin’. Her other language iS DOUBLESPEAK. She learned it from Bill.
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Second source?
That is sooooo pre-Age of Obama.
malclave on November 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM
In 4 years Hillary will be farting dust. Too old to ever be president. And she won’t have Bill to help her since he is even older. She hasn’t done anything on her own.
Geochelone on November 17, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Well he is half human.
Geochelone on November 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM
NJ exists to make NY look good :)
I blame Pataki. We have one party Dem rule next year in NY — for the first time since the 20s. Pataki’s “moderation” helped destroy the NY GOP. They had just barely been clinging to power in the state senate. We have one of the worst, most corrupt state governments in the country.
I don’t see who the GOP could run aside from Guiliani. Susan Molinari? The last few saps have been pathetic.
NYCcon on November 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Gird your loins.
Geochelone on November 17, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Geochelone on November 17, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Correction: In 4 years Hillary will be walking behind Bill trying to clean up his comments caused by the dementia he’s suffered due to the various STDs that have affected his brain.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Now come on … NJ has much more corruption … we lead the league
we also lead the country in one guy becoming governor on like 4 different occasions … Richard Codey
I mean … in what other state can the President of the Senate be the governor at the same time!
joey24007 on November 17, 2008 at 9:08 PM
if this country would elect Hillary after 8 yrs of Obama, it would definitely be the end of things as we know it at that point. political parties rarely hold power for more than 2 terms.
I guess if Obama is able to add enough new voters(hispanics)to the rolls, and white guilt liberals still exist in same numbers and blacks still vote overwhelmingly Dem, it could happen.
jp on November 17, 2008 at 9:20 PM
I’ll believe it when it happens.
GarandFan on November 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Morris (a total tool IMHO) is on H&C talking about the fact that Hillary couldn’t be confirmed as Sec. of State b-cuz of non-disclosure of contributions to the Clinton Bordello and Library, plus other stuff…sorry, question, if that’s true, how come she could have been Prez???
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Awesome pick.
This guy really is no drama Obama.
getalife on November 17, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Hillary as SecState will be Hillary sidetracked. It will mean that Hill-Bill can move out of Chappaqua (improving the neighborhood) and back to Arkansas, or to Washington, or wherever they like. Even Manhattan sounds good.
It will also mean that we can watch Hillary making a fool of herself trying to represent what is sure to be an erratic policy. Not that I want it; if Obama actually does play International Chess effectively I will be glad. But far more likely is that she will be the mouthpiece of fecklessness. Very bad for the country, but less so because it is bad for Hillary’s reputation.
njcommuter on November 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 9:33 PM
I dunno…How come Barry can be the Prez when we know nothing about him at all?
I’m just sayin’
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 9:36 PM
In the military (which Obama is about to lead) there is a truism that one can delegate authority but not accountability. I think you are right in Obama’s motives but he does it at his own peril because he will own the results of letting others lead.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Doesn’t that depend on what the bastard wants to do with foreign policy? I’m not convinced he has figured that out now. His election reminds me of the film The Candidate where Robert Redford’s character knew how to get elected but didn’t have a clue how to be a Senator. In 2008 we’ve got a real-life sequel. Obama knew how to distance himself from terrorists, racists, criminals, and extremists enough to get elected but he doesn’t have a clue what to do now that he has been elected. For all the hype, his transition team has no real guidance about what kind of people will help Obama further his agenda because the bastard doesn’t have one and the few hints about what he wants to do are so broad in scope they will never pass the cold hard reality of daily operative politics.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Yup and then there’s that whole pesky “uphold, defend” the constitution thing. Dang!
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM
What did Hitchens expect? He’s a fool for thinking that Obama, with no significant legislative accomplishments, would do things differently…he’s a liberal through and through.
Goes to show you I’d rather trust Sarah Palin than an egoist like Hitchens, or Obama for that matter.
Imagine, Hitch and Co. were telling us “Obama is so smart” blah blah blah. Wrong again elitists!
Richard Romano on November 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM
First the obvious. Presidents are elected by, we the people, and don’t have to be confirmed by the Senate. No scrutiny and embarrassing questions other than those they avoid during the elections. How do you suppose a terrorist sympathizing, racist Christian, socialist friend of criminals just got elected? Hillary Clinton looks like Mother Theresa in comparison with the corrupt anti-American bastard who actually won the election. Obama did it all by smoke, mirrors, and MSM advocacy and America will suffer as a result.
Secondly, I disagree with Morris. The Senate refuses to get involved with this advise and consent stuff. So long as a nominee isn’t a conservative Catholic with “too white” kids, they get a complete pass. Even then, they are likely to get an easy confirmation so long as the opposition can’t find a rabid liberal to accuse the nominee without providing proof. In any case, it is only if the conservative nominee suffers through his/her entire character attacked and his/her spouse accused of wearing a suit that looks like sofa fabric by the whorish Washington Post fashion propagandist that the confirmation holds. Liberals don’t even get that level of superficial scrutiny. Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s ideas about legalizing prostitution alone, not her dracula-like persona, should have disqualified her if the Senate wanted to really advise before providing consent.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Hillary Clinton or John Kerry as Secretary of State. This thing is becoming a farce.
ddrintn on November 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM
There are really only three things required to be President. 35 years of age; Natural born Citizen (and that is getting more flexible, perhaps) and the big one: Con enough people / steal enough votes to get elected.
You can be previously convicted of treason, rape, murder, fraud and robbery and if you get the votes, you get the job.
There are no requirements for a security clearance, or anything.
Getting confirmed through the Senate for a cabinet position actually requires certain other things, even if it is going to be a rubber stamp by a compliant / complicit body. (They can ignore them, but they gotta go through the motions.)
Doesn’t make much sense, but that’s the way it is.
LegendHasIt on November 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM
There really isn’t one iota policy difference between them, although she tried to sound harder. I’m still puzzled by the choice unless she plans to give away secrets to the Chinese for $$$$, and I wouldn’t past her or him or Him.
SouthernGent on November 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Again there’s still that niggling little matter of “defending/protecting/upholding the constitution.” This seems to negate your argument, sorry.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
“…unless she plans to give away secrets to the Chinese for $$$$…”
SouthernGent on November 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM –
Well, if you look at her campaign finances and those of Bill…seems the Chinese put the money on the table up front.
coldwarrior on November 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM
If Hillary refuses, he could offer it to Chelsea, or maybe go whole hog and bring back Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright as a geriatric diplomatic tag-team.
ddrintn on November 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Respectfully disagree. See above.
If you don’t think there are clear clear hurdles that the potential POTUS as to scale, I’m sorry. Do you remember how so, so many of the Clintonites were denied security clearance and how they had to regroup?
Yeah, let’s roll over and just lower the bar further.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 10:19 PM
The British press isn’t particularly reliable. I’ll believe it when I say it in an American newspaper.
alex342 on November 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM
*see
alex342 on November 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Oh, I forgot…
Extremely crude (but I confess, LMAO). If she accepts, she’s done EXACTLY what you suggest.
However, you’re helping prove my previous point. My biggest question is of the two Clinton seniors, which is the pimp and which is the whore?
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I don’t have to see above I already saw it, and you are just plain incorrect in your conclusions.
I’m not saying it is “right”.
It is, however, the law of the land.
LegendHasIt on November 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM
This is very odd. I was thinking she might make a run at Senate Majority Leader, but Sec. of State? It’s better than John F. Kerry I guess.
BiasedGirl on November 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Ya’ know, I guess you’ve really educated me tonight. I had no idea a child molester, murderer, convicted robber, sex offender, et al was elegable to be elected president. By the way, here’s a news flash: the constitution doesn’t preclude Unicorns, Leprichauns, or two headed pixies from becoming president, as long as they’re born in the US. Bulletin: Don’t mean it gonna happen’ Bubba.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Oh wait, sorry, a two headed unicorn, leprichaun who is the SON OF GOD did get elected. Sorry, stand corrected.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Don’t mean it (Add this word: Ain’t)gonna happen’ Bubba.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Please tell me you aren’t relying on the Senate to hold the President accountable in accordance with the Constitution and rule of law. That freak show couldn’t even agree that Clinton committed perjury for neglecting to mention oral sex with an intern when asked if he had “sexual relations.”
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM
It looks to me as though this is simply an attempt to turn Hilalry into a Gelding. Rush said something along those lines today.
If she takes the SecState job
(1) Obama can send her out of the country for 4 years
(2) She’s a convienent scapegoat for any international disasters.. “Uh Uhm, ah, you ah,,know that Putin Guy uhn er invaded Poland and Uhm Germany today ah er uh,.. It’s all Hillary’s Fault”
(3) I understand the obamalawyers will want to go through Hill and Bills finances and connections with a fine tooth comb.. I’m no fan of Hillary, but I can’t see her being that dense. (ie. one false step and there is a DOJ investigation of Hill and/or bill and/or something really juicy gets ‘leaked’ to the obamapress.
I can imaging that she is trying to find some way of wiggling out of this.. Sorry Hill, here is your payback for supporting Obie.. You should have done thrown your support to McCain-Palin.. “Reach across the aisle” McCain would have probably offered you a much better job.
bullseye on November 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Secretary of State…………… fourth in line to POTUS.
Seven Percent Solution on November 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Secretary of State…………… fourth in line to POTUS.
Seven Percent Solution on November 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM
If I were Biden, Pelosi, or Robert Byrd, I’d be wary of starting my own car in the morning come January 20th. /s
coldwarrior on November 17, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Just shows ta go ya that The One isn’t calling in a pre-emptive strike when it suits him.
Now if He can just carry that thought forward into his foreign policy …
Bruno Strozek on November 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I suspect a mole. David Burge (Iowahawk), perhaps? He’s writing for some British site now. I liked this:
Y-not on November 17, 2008 at 11:45 PM
bullseye on November 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Um, bullseye, Bullseye. Regarding Highhope’s comments:
…I’m talking more about the wink, wink, nod, nod with regard to raising the right hand and swearing to uphold it. But, I guess if you’re not a real believer, the wink, wink, nod, nod part ain’t so very hard.
Chewy the Lab on November 17, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I must say that I am impressed with the caliber of the posts on hot air. Compared to many other sites HotAir is well, a breath of fresh air.
Have you ever gone to that No Quarter site? A bunch of nutjobs over there. Pure opinion, no logic or reasoning behind anything.
Geochelone on November 18, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Hillary doing Condi’s job? This is a total joke! Is Hillary going through menopause? If she is, this could be very dangerous! LMAO!!!! Please, slap me awake! But, I wonder like I said somewhere here. Is this a plan to get her out of the Senate? Then, on down the line???? Who knows? I can’t see her doing that job. She will suck! At least he didn’t ask Albright though…….
sheebe on November 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Oh, Hill.
I really don’t want her to take this position. I really, really don’t. I want my gal to stay in the Senate.
*sigh* This election cycle has just been disappointment after disappointment for me. I can only pray the MSM is jumping the gun with this to try and discredit her (”She won’t work with Obama!”) much as they kept trumpeting that she was dropping out of the Primary race just before elections (which were all lies).
Stay strong, Hill.
lansing quaker on November 18, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Battered Woman Syndrome.
What a coward. She refused to stand up to her husband, who treated her like feces and then rode his coattails into office (the Senate). She refused to stand up to another man who tried to destroy her (when she gave politically correct answers to O’Reilly about Jeremiah Wright) and is now riding his coattails into another office.
She seems to enjoy submitting to men who hate her. I wish she were a bitch; at least she’s have some guts.
ashleymatt on November 18, 2008 at 12:39 AM
And I’d be wary of riding the train with Biden.
afone2 on November 18, 2008 at 1:20 AM
Well, Allah, you didn’t use the goofy picture of Hillary like you’ve been doing lately. I think that’s my old school uniform she’s got on!
fireweednectar on November 18, 2008 at 2:11 AM
Don’t believe it.
Hillary was not good enough to be VP – wasn’t even asked or really considered so the rumors go, but yet she is good enough to be Secretary of State? Hmmmm….
And if Hillary was Secretary of State PLUS you add all the other former Clinton people going into the Obama administration then they have the makings of a 3rd Clinton term.
Will Bill Clinton be secretly pulling all the strings of the administration via his contacts? Even the rumors of it are not good for the Obama legacy. The “first black President” running things for the first black President...
(And if Hillary is given a post and Bill “Judas” Richardson denied…well, that would show the Clintons are in charge.)
Just can’t believe it happening – Hillary as Secretary of State. Anybody talk to John Kerry lately?
albill on November 18, 2008 at 7:07 AM
As one speaking from the other side of the Atlantic, the Obama presidency does not bode well for us Europeans. He will probably make the US more like Europe, when some over here would like Europe to be more like the US. My particular concern is mostly his foreign policy. I do not see Hillary accepting, really, it would probably all become an internal Clash of the Titans. BUT, if it happened, I personally would be happier, for one. She has principle, and at least we can tell where she stands.
Rillot on November 18, 2008 at 7:11 AM
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