Dallas pastor to congregants: How does seven days of sex sound?
posted at 7:00 pm on November 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
The most gimmicky, media-baiting attempt at Christian rebranding since that guy from GodMen gave us Jesus by way of Robert Bly. Reminds me of the scene in “Hoosiers” when Gene Hackman finally figures out a way to motivate his very devout sixth man. “God wants you on the floor” indeed.
Exit question: What are the married beta males supposed to do? And yes, they do exist. Theoretically.
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He’s not the first (very strong language warning).
thirteen28 on November 17, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Gays in the streets, sex in church, Anti-Christ as President… END OF THE WORLD.
Firebird on November 17, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Alternate title: “Allahpundit finds religion.”
It's Vintage, Duh on November 17, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Oh come on, give Allah a break.
I can’t see the video.. But I am pretty sure it is an “eye opener”.
upinak on November 17, 2008 at 7:07 PM
mmm, earthquake swarms all over, fires raging, anyone paying any attention at all?….sheesh.
I’ll figure my sleep number at home thanks.
johnnyU on November 17, 2008 at 7:11 PM
The 4th sign of end times is John McCain as Secretary of Defense for Obama…..it is coming.
portlandon on November 17, 2008 at 7:11 PM
‘Tis a slow news day, indeed.
jimmy the notable on November 17, 2008 at 7:12 PM
I like that last chick’s smile
Greenhelmet on November 17, 2008 at 7:12 PM
This is shameful.
Sex is to be celebrated within marriage, but, then again, it is also to be respected…
If the church fails to do this, no one will.
Mommypundit on November 17, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Shameful, Mommypundit?
What in those two clips did you find “disrespectful?”
Hoodlumman on November 17, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Oh God.
Firebird on November 17, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Hallelujah!
Charles Martel on November 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Wow.
I went to that church 1 time a long time ago for Easter service, with a friend that invited me.
I hated it there. Didn’t talk about Easter but some dumb painting he made. Had to go around the Cape of Good Hope to make some sort of connection to Easter.
It is one of those mega churches that is watered down to attract “young people”.
very sickening.
I will never understand this mentality. The Word of God is just that, The Word of God. You do not need light shows and Disney Land to attract people. Either they accept it or they don’t.
jharada on November 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
He kept on insisting that it is for married couples.
terryannonline on November 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
You’re right. Sex is pretty evil in marraige. That’s why God made it.
*eye roll*
It's Vintage, Duh on November 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Our pastor once told a story about a couple he had in counseling. He said there was nothing about them that made sense they had married.
When he asked the pair how they had decided to get married they told a story of how their pastor at another church preached a message on how to find a mate. He preached, with a straight face apparently, that the guy should find a girl that he fancies and treat her like Jericho… literally. That he should stomp around her 7-times until she succumbs to him.
Our pastor did not believe this story, of course, but called the other guy to see if it was remotely true. He copped to the whole thing and stood behind the sermon.
Sounds like this guy. I mean, not that I have any problem with sex, just that if you have to instruct your congregation to have sex you have bigger issues.
Editor on November 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Gives an entirely new meaning to “Adeste Fidelis”
coldwarrior on November 17, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Come on, Mommypundit, accept the challenge and tell us how you feel when it’s over.
Seriously, if you’ve got a problem with flashy style then you’ve got a problem with that church no matter what the subject matter. But strip that away and I honestly see his point. I do think that the Bible is pro-sex, but non-Christians don’t see it that way, and indeed many Christians don’t, either.
In fact I’d say it ought to be celebrated by everyone, including those who are not in the proper relationship to partake of it (marriage). Yes, respected too, by obeying the guidelines God set out for it. That not only includes abstaining when you are not married but it includes not abstaining when you are.
But you can do both. That is, you can celebrate and respect, simultaneously.
mcg on November 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM
coldwarrior on November 17, 2008 at 7:17 PM
I ain’t believin’ you said that.
If it strengthens marriages, great. If it is just sensationalism, God will know.
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 7:20 PM
What an absolute FAIL mentality. This line of thinking will accelerate the falling church attendance rates in the U.S.
There’s no guidelines to how to preach the gospel but if you think that it should only be done by old white guys in stuffy church pews I hope you have no future in any decision making, period.
Hoodlumman on November 17, 2008 at 7:21 PM
For those that are “shocked” at the video…brush up on the Bible
1 Corinthians 7:3-5
Yes even AP needs to read it.
flash044 on November 17, 2008 at 7:21 PM
“Sir, we would see Jesus.”
But what do we get instead from far too many who are puffed up and assert themselves ministers, but this gimmicky nonsense, which only inoculates sinners against the Word of the Lord. It is sugar-coated law (what I’ve gotta do) when the world is dying for Gospel (what Jesus has done for us– the difference is in the verbs).
Without a clearly centered focus on Christ and Him crucified to ransom us from eternal death for our sin, then there is no better advice than that of Martin Luther what to do with such ‘ministers’:
Let them be pelted with horse dung and driven from the town.
Scribbler on November 17, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Gimmicks within the church. Shameful. The hypersexualization of our culture is bad enough. If you want to talk about the glory of Christ in our sexuality, read Piper’s “Sex and the Supremacy of Christ” and there are also couple’s seminars to attend and counseling for struggling couples. Private pastoral counseling for couples has been beneficial, as well. All of this is tasteful and helpful.
Sex has been trampled upon within and without the church. It is one thing to preach Song of Solomon at Sunday worship service, and another thing to hype it up in tantalizing language specifically chosen to garner attention and attendees. This is the time to educate parishioners on worldview and strengthening the faith which, indirectly, strengthens marriages and impacts this world.
I repeat. Shameful.
Mommypundit on November 17, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Hey, why was my comment deleted? It was sarcasm.
CherokeeJack on November 17, 2008 at 7:21 PM
This guy’s “flashiness” is indicative of his nature – he’s more concerned with his image than his message.
I refer to these types as “Shock Pastors”.
Editor on November 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM
A church here in Tampa did something similar a while back. How does 30 days of sex sound?
vcferlita on November 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Does this mean I have to marry my right hand?
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
rbj on November 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Like Europe has bigger issues? Very few go to church there — and they’re not having kids, either — well, except for the Muslim immigrants.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on November 17, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Well, I’d describe what it sounds like at our house, but I have a feeling the post would get blocked.;)
Can’t see the video, but I read about this earlier. Sounds like a good idea to me. After you’ve been married for a while, you start to take your spouse for granted. Not intentionally, but it happens. In order to have sex seven days a week you have to deliberately set aside time for it, and them.I’m not saying sex is the only thing that a relationship needs, but is cetainly one of those things.
Bobbertsan on November 17, 2008 at 7:25 PM
How long until we have our own Sex Party here?
JammieWearingFool on November 17, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Sexy talk makes baby Jesus cry!
Big S on November 17, 2008 at 7:26 PM
kingsjester on November 17, 2008 at 7:20 PM –
Could not let it pass…tried to not type it, but it just sort of went out there.
On a more serious side, any community, religious or civic, that encourages its members to look at marriage as something to be shared, to be fun, to be something that provides all sorts of joy, something vital…to offset the many realities anyone who has ever been married understands…should be encouraged.
coldwarrior on November 17, 2008 at 7:26 PM
I go to the megachurch like this. I say not put Christ in a simple box. However, this type of church is not for everyone. I understand that.
terryannonline on November 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM
LOL LOL LOL< Firebird, that was hilarious!!
That struck me so funny when I first read your post…
AprilOrit on November 17, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Did you watch the videos? The second one is better, because it provides some context. But the “hype” is coming from the media. The three couples the AP interviewed seem pretty jazzed about it, even the ladies. It seems the pastor is educating the flock, perhaps not in the way you prefer.
conservative pilgrim on November 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM
No, thanks. I’ve been reading a lot about the People’s Temple and it gives me that same creepy vibe.
Blake on November 17, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Organizing sex is like trying to tickle yourself.
profitsbeard on November 17, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Amen. I think a lot of people have lost faith because churches have stopped preaching truth and have focused on showmanship and trying to repackage Christianity in a way that will be attractive to everyone. I know I don’t like being pandered to, and I suspect most people don’t. (Then again, since Obama was elected, apparently there’s a good number of people who don’t mind)
There are two extremes when it comes to sex: the notion that sex itself is bad and that it’s a necessary evil, and the modern notion of “anything goes”- that the pleasure is the primary function of sexuality. Both are wrong. Sex is something holy, which is why it’s not to be misused. It is meant to be both procreative and unitive, so when either of these are attacked it becomes something sinful and destroys the true meaning of sex. I highly suggest reading John Paul II’s Theology of the Body, which George Weigle has called a “theological time-bomb.”
VanPalin on November 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Can’t see the vid right now, but can answer the E.Q.
Answer: Whatever the hell the wife tells him to do! Refer to Obama, Barack H.
innominatus on November 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Haha.
Big S on November 17, 2008 at 7:35 PM
If the Republican Party goes whoring themselves after preachers like this, thinking they are reaching out to some idea of a Christian monolith voting bloc, they’ll be in for more rude surprises.
If the non-Christian GOPers want to toss out all people of faith because of fear of looking like these idiots, then we will never achieve any conservative ends in government.
But, yeah, this video is so very helpful in defeating Big Government and Socialism. I’m glad you posted it.
Joan of Argghh on November 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Sounds good to me, but then again I am a happy newly wed. deep in martial bliss.
My man and I are all about sex right now….and it’s wonderful. We aren’t complaining, we are early to bed and early to rise.
Although I cannot imagine our Rabbi doing this. LOL
AprilOrit on November 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM
I am not a Christian but I have to go with Mommypundit on this.
Crass attention getting behaviour will not keep anyone in a church. Between IPod’s, internet porn, TV reality shows, Hollywood and similar shock sensationalism, you will have no chance of attracting or holding them in the pews. If glitter is what brings them they are not looking for what the church has to offer.
The church is not gonna out glitz Hollywood. End of story.
sharrukin on November 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Ok, then, let’s hear your definition of how Christians, inside and outside churches, should conduct themselves. This should be interesting.
Buford Gooch on November 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM
I think April means “marital bliss.” “Martial bliss,” on the other hand, is what begins on January 20, 2009 for the Obamacrats.
P.S. Firebird rocks!
conservative_in_texas on November 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Restraining order got me at round 4. Get tired of circling at a diameter of half a mile.
HerrMorgenholz on November 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM
This isn’t my home church, but I’ve visited it on several occassions with a friend of mine. I found it a little too glitzy the first couple of times I visited, but I ultimately came to respect what Ed has done with his church. Fellowship is not a “gospel-lite” church. Ed actually preaches a very Bible based message every Sunday. His style and the church itself may be too flashy for some, but like terryannonline said, the megachurch isn’t for everyone.
dfwaggie on November 17, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Christianity isn’t being rebranded here. There isn’t even the implied idea that Christ is involved with this church marketing gimmick (and that is what it is). Your comments are offensive- especially given your anti-Christian attacks of the past.
You do realize your hatred toward Christians is just another form of intolerance, right? You are no different than the “gay-haters” or the “Jew-haters.” Just so you realize who and what you are.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Interesting that you extracted all that from what I put there. Hey, I’ll play your game.
Since you put in there old white guys, you must think I am white, therefore your a racist.
That was fun putting words in your mouth.
Now back to what I wanted to say.
I didn’t not say how to preach. I said that the Word of God is just that. Did Paul or the others use smoke and mirrors to dazzle crowds?
They spoke the word and people came. That is my point.
To be quite honest this message is better suited for a married couples class setting not regular service. There are small children in there and singles. If he is preaching on the value of sex in marriage that is fine, but you exclude the singles in this as it does not apply to there lives as it stands in this moment. Also if I am there and I have small kids, I don’t want them hearing about this. That is for me and my family to discuss. It is a shock gimmick to get people to “tune in” next week. Same bat time, same bat channel.
If you cannot see that, then I think that it is you that has a “FAIL in Mentality” as you so put it.
jharada on November 17, 2008 at 7:53 PM
I did! Firebird’s comment was hysterical….
AprilOrit on November 17, 2008 at 8:13 PM
So Allah,
THIS is your Road to Damascus moment?
Pathetic.
Well, guess I’ll head back to the Palin YouTube vids.
Call me when the f’in GOP rebirth happens.
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM
There isn’t anything wrong per se with large churches. The traditional congregation I grew up in has expanded to over 7,000 with a budget larger than many suburban cities. Christmas Eve services include professional opera singers and musicians. There are eight full & part time ministers and Baptism Sundays have so many babies zooming around it looks like flight operations on an aircraft carrier. That’s all fluff. What is important is if the message is Biblically based and the congregation’s needs are being attended to.
Where I have problems with virtually every “mega-church” I’ve been to is that it is all about the spectacle and not Christ’s message. All laser show, smoke, and superficial pagantry. No real connection between the pastor and the congregation (which is really nothing more than an interested audience). “Worship” is more akin to attending a weekly performance at Branson than putting Christ first in all things.
I’ve never heard of this pastor or church. I give him credit for getting his name out there. I support the idea that couples need to discuss their relationship with one another and (hopefully) how it relates to their family responsibilities and living the Christian life. Nevertheless, this is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM
This church in a Red State?
Tax churches NOW until…..I start getting some. :)
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Sex discussed in a church in the context of the Bible and marriage?
Or, sex portrayed on tv in Sex And The City?
The discussion in church or the portrayal by Hollywood?
Which might actually be more healthy?
BowHuntingTexas on November 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I’ve tried to watch this guy a few times, but he’s hard to see when I am rolling my eyes so much……….
What’s WRONG with Americas Churches?
Oh yeah…..they ignore the parts of the Bible they dont like…
i.e. MOST of it
sigh
John The Baptist on November 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Second video
um….yeah…that’s because it IS mor elike one than the other.
Same for the sermon(s)
John The Baptist on November 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM
I find it interesting that the main problem that the OT Hebrew prophets perceived as wrong with society was the Jewish faithful flocking to (Phoenician temples) “churches” that promised fertility rituals that included sex orgies. Now obviously this church isn’t there yet, but what’s next after 7 days of sex with your spouse gets boring? For an ADD congregation like that, it’s just gonna go further and faster at an exponential rate..
The numbers of the faithful in Samaria shrank in number over time, soon to be followed by the southern kingdom.
And then the Assyrians came in and kicked ass and destroyed the northern kingdom and a little later the Chaldean Babylonians enslaved the rest of the Hebrew people.
Moral of the story: ignore the glitter and flashy lights and focus on the basics.
Jesus absolutely would have attended this service; with a very large stick.
darclon on November 17, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I agree. This is not a church but a social club soon to be f’in swingers club.
Those guys hiding in Afghanistan with their AK’s and RPG’s sniping at our troops and NATO. That is a religious experience (for a muslim).
If Christianity seems like it is TOO easy, then maybe what you are practicing is NOT Christianity.
Sapwolf on November 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I think it’s funny as all get out that people think Christians don’t have sex. I go to a church where there are young families with between three to seven kids. Did those kids fall out of the sky?
mjk on November 17, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Do it! God is watching….
o_O
blatantblue on November 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
She’s got a purty mouth.
csdeven on November 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
The stork is WAY more careful than to let them fall!
eeyore on November 17, 2008 at 8:40 PM
While I don’t agree that it’s proper to publicize your private life, statements like these draw people away.
Do us all a favor and stop turning God into a slave-driver.
leetpriest on November 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM
God went looking for Adam and Eve after telling them to go forth and multiply. He found Adam and asked him how he liked sex. Adam replied that it was fantastic! God asked how Eve like it and Adam responded that she like it too. As Eve was nowhere to be seen, God asked where she was. Adam replied that she was down at the beach cleaning up. God replied…
“DAMNIT!!! Now all the fish are gonna smell!”
csdeven on November 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I guess “Swing Low Chariot” is not the theme song for this sermon…
Bradky on November 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
And when a couple (married of course) is done with the main course the husband can thump the wife on the head and shout “HEALED!”
Bradky on November 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
I’ve been to this church…once…and that was enough for me. It was at Christmas time and was a beautiful “production.” I felt like I was at a concert rather than church. The message this pastor uses isn’t necessarily anything I disagree with but I am very uncomfortable with the tactics used by the church to recruit the youth in our community. I understand the “idea” of making church interesting to appeal to the young but it’s merely a social event to many. And the appeals made outside high school football games that gave the appearance of big parties and fun to be had by all really turned me off. It reaked of the importance of increasing membership numbers rather than saving souls. I have to wonder if this “sex” sermon had more to do with attention and attendance rather than scripture.
Whippet on November 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Meh, let’s just make it official. Sex is only for those who think children are a punishment.
spmat on November 17, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Well all I have to say is that for the last two weeks at my church it has been all about Matthew 24 and the end times and yesterday he talked about the second coming of Christ and destruction of the earth by fire… He writes the schedule out for the year the August of the previous year… so it wasn’t the topic because of the fires here…
CCRWM on November 17, 2008 at 9:07 PM
3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
1st Corinthians 3 – 5 NIV
Buford on November 17, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Obviously the church thing if you assume this pastor has the same following as Sex in the City viewers. That clearly isn’t the case. We don’t live in that society.
Allahpundit clearly has contempt and intolerance for outspoken Christians even if he doesn’t have outright hatred for this demographic and that is a big if given his track record. For this reason he doesn’t get the reasons why family and righteous relationships with God are critical to believing faithful Christians. We Christians are are all unthinking stooges who will soon be declaring that Christ demands we have sex everyday. In short, he overhypes a marketing gimmick as “rebranding Christ” when it is really nothing more than a call for attention to his ministry and an invitation for couples to be more open in discussing how their sexual relationship and their faith in Christ intersect.
In conclusion, Being the men and women God wants to use (these are two different things) do not come out of marketing stunts but they do open the door for discussion- even if that means fools declare that Christians are rebranding Christ to suggest daily sex is a requirement.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM
I think our pastor thought our church of almost 10,000 needed to be bigger and so he started this building campaign where we tried to raise 90 million to build a much bigger church. My husband and I didn’t sign up basically for two reasons…we didn’t want to belong to a mega church and in a buliding campaign we had about 8 years ago we donated $5000 and the main part of the building is a basketball court …Anyway, he only was able to get 17 million in pledges and had to scale way back and then he has been having trouble getting those who made the pledges pay up. So, I think, was this God’s plan or his plan? This is my only crticism because our church is a non denominational church, purely Bible based and he is an excellent teacher…. but he is a human and so anyway…
CCRWM on November 17, 2008 at 9:15 PM
I’ve heard a number of preachers teach along these lines. This is nothing new, especially in evangelical nondenominational churches.
t.ferg on November 17, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I really don’t get this one. If it smells like fish down there, you’re swimming in some foul water.
The Race Card on November 17, 2008 at 9:16 PM
If you’re married…hump the night away.
The Race Card on November 17, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Word is bond.
blatantblue on November 17, 2008 at 9:18 PM
I think Allah posted this because it’s interesting???
Anyway, my husband and I don’t need our pastor to tell us to have sex…my mother taught me a long time ago that if I didn’t take care of my husband he would stray…his mother taught him to be loving and considerate and his wife would love him…so far it’s worked out pretty well except that our 16 year old is getting very hard to send to Grandma’s house lately…not cooperating easily…allownace going way up :)
CCRWM on November 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM
No wonder at all in my mind. I allowed some room for doubt since I’ve never heard of this guy but you make it clear that they have Sunday performances not Sunday worship services. My litmus test- if it’s message about daily sex instead of daily humbling oneself before God and seeking a righteous relationship with Him, it isn’t real worship. How many in the audience of this performance left with the idea that Christ demands they have sex daily?
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Married people should do it as often as possible, so long as their children aren’t left to eat cat food for dinner.
Do it before the Prop 8 haters make straight, married sex illegal!
blatantblue on November 17, 2008 at 9:26 PM
You have to ask? Only $17M to build a facility????? I’m sorry if I come off a bit strident but church buildings and Christian communities are two different things.
You say that as if denominational churches are evil and couldn’t possibly be Bible-based. I’ll give you a chance to retract and revise your comments.
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM
You ever been there Mommypundit?
I have been a member there for 15 years, and it is an awesome church, and I absolutely love it. Ed Young Jr. is a very creative pastor, and of course he publicized this to attract attention. Worked didn’t it? Is that so bad that a church and God’s teachings wouyld attract attention?All of his teachings are biblical in nature, and the reason why we have 5 campuses and 35,000 regular attendees and growing is because he is creative, and people that love my church love the music, and the atmosphere, and the fact that they often say that they thought the Pastor was “talking directly to me”.
Be careful how you “judge” a church you have never stepped foot in. Perhaps more Pastors should learn to teach creatively as opposed to giving “hell and damnation” speeches every Sunday, which describes my childhood church. Dust off your Bible sometime and see what God has to say about sex within the confines of “marriage”, which is the context of what Ed preaches. You might be AMAZED and mortified how many times GOD talks about sex within the marriage, and also sexual sin outside of marriage.
Maybe that is part of our problem in society that our religious leaders do not talk about the “real issues” that affect our lives every day. This church is not for everyone, but I will not sit back and have you judge my church incorrectly out of ignorance.
If you have questions about what the Church believes, or if you are in the Dallas Fort Worth area or Miami (where our 5 campuses are) then check out http://fellowshipchurch.com
It just might change your life for the better!
ReaganConservative3 on November 17, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Like my honeymoon! (Soon.)
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 9:35 PM
LOL, all married men are beta males. Alpha males don’t need to get married to have sex. Marriage is the sign of a beta.
needtoknow on November 17, 2008 at 9:38 PM
99% of all married men are beta males. The 1% alphas are married to hot foreign chicks who don’t know they are hot while they cook dinner.
TMK on November 17, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I’ve never heard a preacher teach along these lines……..perhaps I should read Huckabee new book?
try again later on November 17, 2008 at 9:41 PM
True dat.
baldilocks on November 17, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Nice idea. I need to download this guy’s sermons for my wife.
Mojave Mark on November 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Oh no…I hope it isn’t this Dallas group trying to reopen….LOL
AprilOrit on November 17, 2008 at 9:45 PM
highhopes on November 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Well i DIDN’T MEAN IT AS A PUT DOWN TO DENOMINATIONAL CHURCHES ..i MEANT TO SAY THAT WE STICK PRETTY CLOSE TO THE bIBLE AS OPPOSED TO SAY THE cATHOLOCS WHO HAD THE bALTIMORE CATHECISM ETC…THAT’S ALL… hit cap locks by mistake and dont want to go back and retype…
Now what do you mean about hte 17 million? That a building doesn’t make the church? I agree…
CCRWM on November 17, 2008 at 9:45 PM
What the hell is a “leetpriest”? Sounds like an exotic vegetable. And it is not driving people away to speak the truth.
“On Marriage” by St. John Chrysostom. Google it.
HerrMorgenholz on November 17, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Take their wives to church. Isn’t this the ultimate line for a husband: God wants us to have sex?
I don’t get the people who are freaking out over this. Maybe it’s a little gimmicky, but it’s not a sin. Sometimes we’re too sensitive about sex in this society.
Esthier on November 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM
I don’t know anything about this church, but,, the reason this seems so funny is because the world has perverted sex and marriage,, and the church has been defined by the world as having sexual hang ups.
The opposite is true.
It is the world that has perverted sex. It is the world that is suffering from abortions, sexual diseases, broken marriages, broken and destroyed lives and families, hearts and homes. The world makes a mockery of sex within marriage. The only men on TV or the movies that never want to have sex, unless it is with someone other than their wife, are married men.
God did invent sex. And he made it as much for enjoyment as for creating children. In fact, I believe, the only times in the Bible when God tells married couples to not have sex, is when both are fasting and in agreement. Married couple should in fact have sex as often as possible. Sometimes a married man will put more effort into an affair then he will into keeping the romance in his marriage.
This guy might not be doing this the right way, I don’t know,, but in our church and I know in many others, our pastors bring Jesus to every room of the house, in very clear and simple terms.
One last thought,, if you ever want to know what you have that is powerful or valuable,, pay attention to what is attacked, perverted, or stolen by the enemy.
Sex is one of those things.
A person that has an unhealthy, perverted or immature sexual attitude or habits,, whether from sexual abuse, lack of understanding, etc,, is a wounded person. It effects our entire being. It effects all of our other relationships.
JellyToast on November 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM
You know…women do like making love probably as much as men do…
CCRWM on November 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Looks like somebody has neglected to read I&II Timothy…
TMK on November 17, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Does he mean pro-creational sex or….?
SouthernGent on November 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM
@Baldilocks
Another conservative woman makin some man lucky!
The Race Card on November 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM
hmmm, I am shy….but I will tell hubby, he might go for it. But in a church? I don’t go to churches. Very interesting to hear that. :)
sheebe on November 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Ew! Pics, please! Of the wedding of course.
SouthernGent on November 17, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Then you’re sense of humor is non-existent.
csdeven on November 17, 2008 at 10:20 PM
He says in the second video:
Sorry, but I reject this assumption.
We are faithful in Christ. I don’t need any mortal human telling me about the tenor of my relationship with my husband or my Lord.
keebs on November 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM
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