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Good news: Six Ohio state agencies now accused of snooping on Joe the Plumber

posted at 6:19 pm on November 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Ace. You guys are always complaining how the media doesn’t do enough fact-checking. Well, cheer up: Apparently, the government’s doing it for them.

The [tax] department’s first search of the day was unsuccessful because of incorrect information about the individual, Kohlstrand said. Ohio Attorney General Nancy Rogers’ office then contacted taxation because it was having difficulty accessing the database, Kohlstrand said. After the two agencies talked, taxation completed a successful search.

Kohlstrand said that the AG’s office wanted access to the records so they could turn over to the national media lien information that was a public record in Lucas County. He said the national media did not have reporters in Toledo, so the attorney general’s office was helping them out with public records…

Rick Anthony, deputy tax commissioner, said there are times when a payment can be in the pipeline so a lien appears unpaid when in fact the taxpayer or business has repaid the state.

Anthony said the database searches on both days were conducted to ensure that the information in Lucas County was being properly reported by the media.

”Wouldn’t that have been a disaster if the lien had been paid,” Kohlstrand said. ”The responsible thing for us to do would be to take prompt steps to make it right.”

Oddly enough, the state’s inspector general finds all this curious. Golly, if only the FBI had been as forthright and thoughtful in investigating The One’s attendance at Trinity, his connections to Ayers and Rezko, his mysterious college years, etc etc. Wouldn’t it be a disaster if the smears were allowed to persist without being debunked? The responsible thing for them to do would be to take prompt steps to make it right.

Exit question one: Assuming that these were in fact public records, why was the media reporting on the liens before they’d double-checked to see if they’d been paid off yet? Exit question two: Why was the AG’s office “helping them out”?


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- Tim Robbins, 2003

lorien1973 on November 14, 2008 at 6:22 PM

this is how machines work. They so-operate with their media buddies, feed them stories, and sit back. The essential goal, make everyone think twice before raising our voices. This is your modern day government left in action, somewhere Max Weber might be smiling.

rob verdi on November 14, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Stop bringing up distraction politics and work with The One to restore this nation, thanks

lodge on November 14, 2008 at 6:24 PM

People thought the BusHitler/Halliburton/Cheney Gestapo was turning its beady eyes and sharp claws on all who opposed the fascist regime of Emperor George?

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet….

MrScribbler on November 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

While were at it, remember any criticism of Obama is racist, to question certain environmental orthodoxies is akin to holocaust denial, and supporting freedom for the Iraqi people is tantamount to a war crime.

rob verdi on November 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

The reason six state agencies are involved is because they didn’t have time to include more.

Jim Treacher on November 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Seriously, someone needs to preface these types of posts with deranged lefties accusing Bush of doing this for 8 years. Then, show their silence (or encouragement) when it really happens.

That’s how you do this sort of stuff.

The tim robbins quote is classic for these types of things.

lorien1973 on November 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Restore it to a Marxist State?
I think not.

woodswalking on November 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

mrscribbler,
the domestic left is like the old Soviet Union, when they accuse their opponents of an action, thats a sure sign they are doing it.

rob verdi on November 14, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Luckily the Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that Free Speech in the First Amendment applies to political speech and not donkey porn and urine art. Thankfully the precedent has been set into stone and we ca…..what? THEY DID WHAT???

Ok. Disregard my last.

TugboatPhil on November 14, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Considering the mess Ohio is in, it probably took six agencies and all of them were wrong. The AG’s office is beyond helpful.

Cindy Munford on November 14, 2008 at 6:29 PM

Now its time for leftist tactics. Get in their f\ace at every opportunity. Force them to violate your privacy then sue sue SUE!

That would include the lying Governor.

Lonetown on November 14, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Yeah, it took six state agencies to screw up this bad, one couldn’t have done it by itself.

johnsteele on November 14, 2008 at 6:31 PM

Paid leave for everyone involved! I hear Martinique is nice this time of year.

Christien on November 14, 2008 at 6:31 PM

Anthony said the database searches on both days were conducted to ensure that the information in Lucas County was being properly reported by the media.

How helpful.

amerpundit on November 14, 2008 at 6:31 PM

Where can I see all the corresponding information for the people that appeared in the Obama Variety Half-Hour?

After all, those people were also thrust into the limelight, so as a citizen, I’m entitled to all the same dirt on them, right?

malclave on November 14, 2008 at 6:32 PM

This must be some of that abusive fascism the left is always screaming about.

Spirit of 1776 on November 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM

The media managed to think of checking Joe’s property tax records but they couldn’t think of checking Obama’s medical or school records. Makes sense to me My Lord Obama™

johnsteele on November 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM

This must be some of that abusive fascism the left is always screaming about.

Spirit of 1776 on November 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Nope, we Republicans didn’t do it.

johnsteele on November 14, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Can we make it seven agencies? How about eight? Keep looking.

tuffy on November 14, 2008 at 6:36 PM

Only 6 agencies? Wow. They must have been closed for fumigation or painting the offices.

Big Brother ain’t just a TV show. Obama is now building his brownshirts within the government to destroy ANY threat to himself or his minions.

Every Republican Governor should be purging RINOS & Obamacons from their administrations. A well placed Obamabot could really sink an administration. I smell Sabotage in the air.

portlandon on November 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM

All this for “Joe the Plumber”, and they are still finding votes for Al Frankin, but oh well………. nothing to see there……………

Seven Percent Solution on November 14, 2008 at 6:42 PM

If I were him I’d be ready to sue. An example must be made of this or it will keep going on unchecked. I’m not one to jump to a lawsuit, but dammit Joe was done wrong.

johnnyU on November 14, 2008 at 6:45 PM

C’mon people. Minority ruled America will be a workers paradise.

Except there won’t be any jobs.

DeweyWins on November 14, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Why was the AG’s office “helping them out”?

If it gets high enough on the “ladder” the AG’s office is always involved… in almost all State Governments.

Opps… they just screwed up more then most.

upinak on November 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM

Hope Joe has a good lawyer…he is going to be rich.

And where is the ACLU?????

albill on November 14, 2008 at 6:48 PM

If we could just get those long lines for bread started we could begin our impression of the old USSR in earnest.

Being destroyed from within, with the full knowledge of a connected society, knowledge used as foundation for jokes.

Dorvillian on November 14, 2008 at 6:48 PM

OT!:

Pics of Sarah Palin in short, and I mean short, shorts in Miami soaking in the rays:

http://www.celebuzz.com/short-shorts-pics-sarah-palins-s64391/

BJ on November 14, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Big Brother is watching you.

Johan Klaus on November 14, 2008 at 6:57 PM

I understand Ohio is where The One is planning on building the first internment camps for conservatives.

darwin on November 14, 2008 at 6:58 PM

Starting to look suspiciously like a vast, left-wing conspiracy.

whitetop on November 14, 2008 at 6:58 PM

GOP To Do List

1. Whine
2. Drool over Palin
3. Repeat steps 1 & 2 for eight years.

benny shakar on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

So that’s how the media figured out that Joe was really “Samuel” — they had tremendous help from the State of Ohio Ohio Ohio Ohio Ohio. Ohio. And counting.

unclesmrgol on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

And where is the ACLU?????

http://www.acluohio.org/pressreleases/2008pr/2008.11.14.2.asp

AJB on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

And where is the ACLU?????

http://www.acluohio.org/pressreleases/2008pr/2008.11.14.2.asp

AJB on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

Wow, they were fast! Their news release was dated “November 14″, and probably posted right after albill’s comment.

unclesmrgol on November 14, 2008 at 7:04 PM

benny shakar’s to do list:

1. Deny whining for the past eight years.

2. Practice whining for 2010 and 2012.

3. Drool over Palin.

4. Blame the upcoming disaster known as the “Obama Administration” on Bush …

darwin on November 14, 2008 at 7:08 PM

Still waiting for the ACLU to give Joe a hand. Sounds like a perfect case for the defenders of civil liberties, oh wait, Joe is a conservative, straight white guy, nevermind silly me!

dmann on November 14, 2008 at 7:11 PM

If I were him I’d be ready to sue. An example must be made of this or it will keep going on unchecked. I’m not one to jump to a lawsuit, but dammit Joe was done wrong.

It won’t go unpunished … the Dems in Ohio went WAAAAAY out of line here and didn’t even bother to cover their tracks. And a lot of the folks who got dragged in were minimum wage admin hacks with no real political interests but they do have a strong desire to maintain employment. They will tell the truth about what they were “ordered” to do by their Democratic overlords.

If the Ohio Inspector General covers this up – he’ll be sued along with the AG and everyone else who was involved.

The world is watching – but no – this won’t just “slip” under the rug. Litigation Lawyers are already courting Joe the Plumber.

HondaV65 on November 14, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Wow, they were fast! Their news release was dated “November 14″, and probably posted right after albill’s comment.

Here’s one from October 31:

http://blog.cleveland.com/letters/2008/10/government_snoops_have_no_righ.html

Why can’t conservatives give credit to the ACLU for being consistent? They’ve defended Rush Limbaugh, Oliver North, Christians, and even questioned taxpayer funding for an Islamic charter school.

AJB on November 14, 2008 at 7:19 PM

HondaV65 on November 14, 2008 at 7:12 PM

I sure hope so, cause this little piece of American history really pisses me off.

If this gets swept under the rug, then it’s the dead canary in Liberty’s mine shaft.

Saltysam on November 14, 2008 at 7:24 PM

Still waiting for the ACLU to give Joe a hand. Sounds like a perfect case for the defenders of civil liberties, oh wait, Joe is a conservative, straight white guy, nevermind silly me!

The ACLU has defended Rush Limbaugh, Oliver North, and Christian schoolchildren. It has also opposed tax payer funding for an Islamic charter school.

The ACLU is a consistent defender of civil liberties and conservatives and would be the first one to fight for the free speech rights of conservatives charged under “hate crime” ordinances. You’re being dishonest here for suggesting otherwise.

AJB on November 14, 2008 at 7:25 PM

I would take the ACLU’s help for anything.

Ronnie on November 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM

And where is the ACLU?????

http://www.acluohio.org/pressreleases/2008pr/2008.11.14.2.asp

AJB on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

The A in ACLU doesn’t stand for American. They are too busy helping illegal aliens and anything that is “Un-American”.

HornetSting on November 14, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Speaking of looking for information on someone….

Alan Keyes filed a suit against Obama on Nov.12,2008 in the Superior Court of California. Keyes wants documentation.

http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf

infidelgranny on November 14, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Well,look on the bright side,this might be
the first time inter-governmental offices
actually worked together affectively for
the first time!!

Even tho, that cooperation between government
agency’s were working together,in fact gathering
on a innocent average American!

And,it just goes to show that spying on Americans
who you are politicaly in disagreement with can be
honed to get the goods politicaly on said person!

So to summarize,Liberal Democrat operatives can use
government wisely when they really want to,while their
at work doing the peoples business,and also on the side
to score political browny points for said Socialist
Supreme “Community Organizer”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Outstanding!!!!

So lets review:
———————————————————-

The same Liberals have accused the Bush Administration of
being spied on,and having their rights so-called violated
and yet they have not one shred of evidence,

have in fact,Spied on Republican Americans and are having
charges laid,and some Democrats are on leave of pay from
said”Snooping and Spying”!

How HYPOCRITAL OF LIBERALS,and again this is Outstanding
X Twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Sarc!).

canopfor on November 14, 2008 at 7:39 PM

OT!:

Pics of Sarah Palin in short, and I mean short, shorts in Miami soaking in the rays:

http://www.celebuzz.com/short-shorts-pics-sarah-palins-s64391/

BJ on November 14, 2008 at 6:52 PM

See you and raise. Have a look, if you dare.

link here.

fred5678 on November 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

This is a prime example of why we need to be teachers, lawyers journalists, school board members, etc. Because without the Columbus Dispatch this story would be well hidden.

Hopefully this will turn the state red again.

Theworldisnotenough on November 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

Don’t forget, the local Toledo Police Department is also holding an administrative hearing because an employee looked into Joe’s traffic record.

And the local lefty weekly keeps hammering on Joe. As does the Toledo Blade.

See the fascism inherent in the left!

rbj on November 14, 2008 at 7:52 PM

GOP To Do List
1. Whine
2. Drool over Palin
3. Repeat steps 1 & 2 for eight years.
benny shakar on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

benny shakar To Do List:
1. Hope that coveted Assistant Manager job opens up at McDonalds.
2. Pretend to be relevant.
3. Disappear from Hot Air as Obama/Democrats take the US into Economic Hell.

Patrick S on November 14, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Fire ‘em all. Every single snooping law-breaking dipsh*t.

Hopefully Joe will fade back into the nothing he always was very soon.

Dave Rywall on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Fire ‘em all. Every single snooping law-breaking dipsh*t.

Hopefully Joe will fade back into the nothing he always was very soon.

Dave Rywall on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Me senses a little anger and maybe a little jealousy from little Dave. Interesting that your man put Joe in the limelight. You idiots will never get it. Crawl back under your rock Dave. I bet Joe will just fine and you will be….well…. Dave.

Jamson64 on November 14, 2008 at 9:42 PM

He said the national media did not have reporters in Toledo, so the attorney general’s office was helping them out with public records…

The national media didn’t have reporters in Wasilla, either, but managed to fly in a few for some hands-on inspection of public records, or so I’ve heard.

/sarc

Owen Glendower on November 14, 2008 at 9:44 PM

And where is the ACLU?????
http://www.acluohio.org/pressreleases/2008pr/2008.11.14.2.asp

AJB on November 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM

Good to see the ACLU is stepping up though I bet reluctantly. Now AJB where be the DEMS who oh so loudly attacked Bush for similar charges. Could here a friggin pin drop.

Jamson64 on November 14, 2008 at 9:45 PM

If guilty I hope they hang, figuritively, of course….

DL13 on November 14, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Now its time for leftist tactics. Get in their f\ace at every opportunity. Force them to violate your privacy then sue sue SUE!
That would include the lying Governor.
Lonetown on November 14, 2008 at 6:30 PM

it’s nearly impossible to successfully sue the sovereign authority at any level, be it the federal or local. read rousseau’s social contract for the grim details. however, it is also true that the sovereign should not rule or pass laws concerning any particular thing. That is why the constitution suggests what the government should not be, Barry, instead of what the government should be. It is not a negative charter, a sovereign of a civilized democracy is limited not omnipotent.
Fun to see the fourth branch of government giving demands to the other branches. Nice that all 4 branches are working in concert, instead of checking and balancing.

anti-boomer on November 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM

Speaking of looking for information on someone….

Alan Keyes filed a suit against Obama on Nov.12,2008 in the Superior Court of California. Keyes wants documentation.

http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf

infidelgranny on November 14, 2008 at 7:36 PM

NICE!!! that is wonderful! Good to know a very legitimate person is doing this too.

sheebe on November 15, 2008 at 2:13 AM

Hopefully Joe will fade back into the nothing he always was very soon.

Dave Rywall on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Like you are a nothing too. Just full of ***t. And a troll! That doesn’t even live in our Country. Although, many wonderful friends of mine live in Canada. To bad they are stuck with the likes of you living there.

sheebe on November 15, 2008 at 2:15 AM

I just hope that we get different colored uniforms for when the revolution hits so we don’t just have to fight the dreadlock wearers and academicians and maybe hit one of our own by mistake. /sarc/maybe

Big John on November 15, 2008 at 3:57 AM

Government snoops have no right to pry into newsmakers’ personal information
http://blog.cleveland.com/letters/2008/10/government_snoops_have_no_righ.html

So they put this on a blog?
“ blog post”?

Do most of the folks in Ohio regularly log into this blog?

DSchoen on November 15, 2008 at 4:40 AM

I think it’s ok to vet this plumber before he gets the “asking critical policy questions of Potus candidate” position selected by the MSM, otherwise we would be like forced to trust “anonymous sources” and we wouldn’t do that…

the_nile on November 15, 2008 at 5:27 AM

Can someone please tell me why nobody is calling on Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland to resing over this growing Joe the Plumber-gate scandal?

6 Agenices??? And you wanna tell me that the Governor and the Governor’s office were not involved in this cover-up?

What did Strickland know of the cover-up, and when did he know about it?

ericdondero on November 15, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Form “The Godfather” through Internet Movie Database:

Michael Corleone: Where does it say that you can’t kill a cop?
Tom Hagen: Come on, Mikey…
Michael Corleone: Tom, wait a minute. I’m talking about a cop that’s mixed up in drugs. I’m talking about a – a – a dishonest cop – a crooked cop who got mixed up in the rackets and got what was coming to him. That’s a terrific story. And we have newspaper people on the payroll, don’t we, Tom?
[Tom nods]
Michael Corleone: And they might like a story like that.
Tom Hagen: They might, they just might.

Fiction? Media people on the payroll? State employees on the payroll?

Pelayo on November 15, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Fire ‘em all. Every single snooping law-breaking dipsh*t.

Hopefully Joe will fade back into the nothing he always was very soon.

Dave Rywall on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Well, Joe is, always has been and always will be a citizen of the USA, so he’s luckier than those poor folks who aren’t.

Red State State of Mind on November 15, 2008 at 7:45 PM

See you and raise. Have a look, if you dare.

link here.

fred5678 on November 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Trixie my eyes!!!!

johnnyU on November 15, 2008 at 8:48 PM

Hopefully this will turn the state red again.
Theworldisnotenough on November 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

That’s asking for the near-impossible in the short term and improbable in the medium-long term should Ohio hold its ground. There’s too much political baggage to clear.

JTnotP won’t change much other than putting some other left-wing person in that state job. That would presume they’re actually fired.

Hopefully JTnotP will fade back into the nothing he always was very soon.

Dave Rywall on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

That person will, even here.

sethstorm on November 16, 2008 at 3:31 PM

AMERIKA KGB appears to be up and running…:lol

dec5 on November 16, 2008 at 7:24 PM

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