Unbelievable: GOP governors sniping at Palin over press conference
posted at 5:55 pm on November 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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To my fellow bloggers: The next time you get an e-mail from someone saying it’s time to organize a conservative netroots, bear in mind that it’s these morons, by and large, whom that person wants you to support. The same people who couldn’t muster a judgment on the bailout independent of Nancy Pelosi being a big meanie, the same people who can’t organize a press conference without having it descend into backbiting and recriminations.
Some Republican governors tell CNN they were not particularly happy with the way the Republican Governors Association press conference was executed Thursday, saying that they agreed to go as a show of GOP governors’ unity — but they ended up feeling like silent Palin supporters, since it was clearly a press conference called for her.
The GOP governors spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity.
One called it awkward: “I’m sure you could see it on some of our faces.”
Another Republican governor eyeing a presidential run in 2012 told CNN the event was “odd” and “weird,” and said it “unfortunately sent a message that she was the de facto leader of the party.”
This isn’t about Palin, it’s about basic competence on messaging. The McCain camp couldn’t manage it and now the governors can’t either. Who’s left?
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I may not have felt that she was ready to be president the day she was announced, but I think she would have been ready in about a year after spending some time in the job as VICE-President. I certainly felt better about her than either on the democratic ticket.
XWing5 on November 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM
The press didn’t ask anyone else any questions besides Sarah! She kept saying they’re a “team” and after her remarks she said they were all open for questions, then graciously stepped back from the mic. Even Gov. Perry later said they were short on time, supposedly, which is why only a few questions were answered… who knows. Sarah’s classy… these jerks obviously aren’t.
hockey2k5 on November 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Fewer voters? Some crossed over because Obama dazzled them and they were war/economy in the toilet weary – who knows the reasons. But you go ahead and blame Palin if it makes you feel better.
“An overwhelming majority” is crap. It’s fiction.
“she’s not ready to be president. She bumbled on basic interview questions.” Two words. Joe Biden. He got a pass on every gaffe he made.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Sheesh – go away, run a couple of errands, as there’s another 300-post Palin thread.
You are going to miss her terribly over the long Alaskan Winter – of this year – and next year – and the year after that.
CK MacLeod on November 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM
:-o
dead-duck on November 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM
I feel as if conservatives went through the 90s and the Bush years under the false delusion that Republicans were not politicians, but rather, pure hearted ideologues. How, for example, can you guys have mustered massively hypocritical arguments like “Kerry is a flip flopper” (which is true) and then with a straight face claim that George Bush or John McCain were not? Arguments like “Democrats only do things for political gain, they don’t *really* care about poor people”. Suggests that Republicans actually care about the conservative base, care about religious values, care about fiscal conservatism when we all know that they *care* about those things only so far as they can win them elections. Just. Like. Democrats.
When will conservatives recognize that there is no fundamental difference between Rick Perry and Ed Rendell, they just pander to different groups. I will say this though. Palin and Obama seem to be cut from a very different clothe. It could be because they are both new to the scene and relatively unknown. Or, it could be, as I suspect that they are two sides of the same ideologically pure coin. Palin believes in her heart and soul in Reagan Conservatism. You can FEEL it when she speaks. And the same is true for Obama and FDR liberalism, he REALLY believes it. And whether you agree or not these are the kinds of politicians that are needed and these are the kinds of politicians that will frighten entrenched interests in their own party. Obama didn’t play games with the Democrats, he didn’t make deals and he didn’t climb the ladder. He just fucking ran and it was entirely audacious and he never thought for. a. second. that he would lose. You kind of get that feel about Palin too. If the GOP is smart they’ll get out of her way. But it looks like they aren’t.
DeathToMediaHacks on November 13, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Palin repeats herself too much? Repeat after me: Yes We Can! Yes We Can! Yes We Can! Yes We Can! Yes We Can!
Speach coach? Repeat after me: er, uh, er, uh.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Shame and ridicule to CNN!
What was ‘awkward’ was that the reporters asked her questions and didn’t have the guts to let us hear them. What was awkward was that the reporters only had questions for her. As far as I can tell, they did not ask 1 relevant question! The Repub Govs were laughing at the reporters! When will liberals learn that we are not like them? Anyone who took the time to watch the whole event can see how the Republican Governors welcomed her, reiterated her, praised her, and gave her a standing ovation. This video is of 7 minutes with the LMSM. They were invited to the whole event but didn’t bother to go and/or decided to report on 7 minutes of their own demented orchestration instead!
*Spits right back at CNN & MSM
Elektra on November 13, 2008 at 7:41 PM
If it wasn’t for the press that she has drawn to this would the MSM be reporting that Pawlenty and the others were “possible presidential contendors’?
They should be grateful to her.
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 7:41 PM
What the hell is going on? What the hell has happened to our party? Why does everyone always have to be out for their own political agenda? The governors should be able to come together for less than an hour and simply support each other. Instead of helping the party which is hanging on by a thread — the governors would rather just finish it off.
It figures my Governor would take it upon himself to end Palin’s press conference. What an as*hole.
jonezee on November 13, 2008 at 7:41 PM
That’s what the GOP said about the DNC in 94.
hawkdriver on November 13, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Ares on November 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Who is the creator that endowed you with certain unalienable Rights? Perfectly serious question, would it be your folks? Do you think that’s what the founders meant?
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Right on. Too many politicians are empty, except for a life-time of mono-maniacal power lust. Palin is real and presents herself as who she is.
And it drives them nuts!
Feedie on November 13, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Agreed. I am ready for him to go.
XWing5 on November 13, 2008 at 7:43 PM
I like that. Very well stated.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:43 PM
An excellent post but I’ll repeat my main premise is about her electability. There are many problems with this. Her moral rigidity is one. The fact (sad or otherwise) is that it doesn’t play well to a large audience. She is a polarising figure and whilst we might like her many will react violently the other way – and her numbers showed this. She’s gone way beyond where Dubya did on Abortion for instance, that is a vote loser. Sorry to sound like Kos but I’m more interested in a Republican who is a conservative – she/he can check god at the door.
And I am sorry but people are wary about confusing church with state. Most think that their relationship with God is a personal one (my opinion) not one to be confused with the state and politicians who are invariably shown to be incredibly flawed.
I could not agree more and I think that it proves my point – whilst it is welcome, religion and politics should never be entwined. Historically it never works out and whether you believe or you don’t you probably know that on some level.
Ares on November 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM
What I will never understand about aspiring politicians, is that when one of your colleagues is very popular with the base of your party, instead of alienating her supporters from your own self-serving campaign beginning in Iowa 2011 by criticizing Sarah, you would think they would try to court her legion of supporters by acknowledging and commending her service to the party and country and stating that Sarah will be one of the future leaders of the GOP. Then when he did announce his candidacy, he would not face any resentment from Sarah’s followers at the time and might become their second choice if Sarah ever faltered in her Presidential bid. Ego sometimes overides discretion.
technopeasant on November 13, 2008 at 7:45 PM
I think we should all hide and watch. Four years will be enough time to decide if she grows into national leadership. I think it is silly to be at each other’s throats for a future possibility. Who knows, maybe we will all be thrilled with the job The One does in his first term.
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Perhaps we should morph the Republican-RINO’s to the
Libertarian-MOOSE
gracie on November 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM
…and I agree, actually, but possibly for a different reason (I’m not altogether clear on yours)….
…I agree that she’s not a viable candidate for a national election because the dust doesn’t settled from the last national election, and the next one is two years off….
…the media, as many wise and wily posters here on HA have pointed out, are the ones ginning this whole “divide and conquer” thing up, so’s to crippled a wounded party further…I wouldn’t be surprised if, having a pristine original of the video above, we couldn’t make out Rahm E. in the background, prodding the GOP gov’s into frowning….
…Rahm E…the Karl Rove of the new era….
Mr. McCain was handed so many things with which to whack both Obama and his party…and never used ‘em, aside from that monotonous business about Ayers…Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac…Frank…anything touched by Pelosi…Wright, et. al…Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson, Guiliani or anyone else actually running for President would’ve slaughtered this guy…instead, we have “Carter II, the Revenge of Jimmy”….
…so, it’s gonna take some time for the scabs to form and the bones to knit…and then we can begin crowing about Jindahl or Sarah…or some other luminary with promise…the trick is to have a party when the time comes…to have shed all the RINOs and conditional conservatives, all the Noonans and the Brooks’s, the faux intellectuals and forked-tongued pundits….
…and to rally around ideas, not a person…because no person is perfect…as the media will then begin proving to us….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Bottom line is, would anyone even realize the Republican Governors were holding this conference if it weren’t for the attention being paid to Governor Palin?
I don’t remember paying a bit of attention to it in prior years.
They are squandering an advantage where they could be putting forth some fresh ideas for the future with the squabbling going on.
SassyDarlin on November 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM
The same creator that gave you yours.
Things is we’ve had to fight for them ever since.
Ares on November 13, 2008 at 7:48 PM
NOTHING done by the right for MSM consumption will ever project as unified, sensible or preferable. It will always be spun as inferior. Who knows, maybe the anonymous sources cited by CNN are a single ex-press agent for an ex-governor. And this is a considerable disadvantage — for the right to get a message out, it takes more than just a savvy public relations agent. It requires a level of coordination than may not be possible to deliver on a consistent basis.
Mark30339 on November 13, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Ares on November 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Could you please give specifics of her “moral rigidity”? Again, this a serious question, she may have certain standards for herself but could you please point out where she pressed those on anyone else?
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:49 PM
And the whole time, she kept stepping back after answering a question. She was obviously trying NOT to dominate the podium.
This also goes to show – if it is true that there was some backbiting – that even many of her fellow Governors do not understand anything about her and that she is a gift from God endowed with humility and a love for her Creator, her family, her country and her State.
In some ways, you have to be “like Sarah” to understand Sarah.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:49 PM
And we always will. The acknowledgment or repudiation of God won’t change that.
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM
McCain’s doing, plus people de-registering as GOP and goind Dem or Ind.
I drove 1400 miles, worked two day on the phones in FL, spent $5,082 of my own money to help McCain win.
I did this ONLY AFTER he picked Sarah Palin. Why? Because I felt he was serious about winning when he picked Sarah. He ended up going pussy on us later in the campaign.
Believe me and zillions of others, Palin had nothing to do with losing this election. If John picks Pawlenty, we may have lost MO, MT, KY, who knows what else.
Sapwolf on November 13, 2008 at 7:51 PM
She is only polarizing now because the “journalists” keep making it sound like she will impose Christianity over the country and every single piece of legislation that comes across her desk. She has said repeatedly that her views are her own and she has not, as popularly espoused, mandated creationism be taught in schools or said that abortion in extreme cases should overturned (rape & incest), though she would like Roe v Wade overturned (which still does not end abortions). She has not let her religion dictate her policy in the state (she also did not say “NO” to teaching birth control.) So that is something she will have to make clear. But just because someone believes faith is important, it should not disqualify them from a legitimate shot at President.
XWing5 on November 13, 2008 at 7:51 PM
I don’t think so, Cindy Munford. Like the scorpion to the frog, “It’s (not) in my nature.”
gracie on November 13, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Dennis Miller is convinced that New York/LA women hate her because it’s obvious that she has a healthy sex life, and they haven’t been able to turn their guy on in years. The snow machine looks like “mechanized foreplay,” I believe he said. I think he’s right. Five kids, and Todd sure looks like a happy guy…
meltenn on November 13, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Thanks MarkyMark. That is the way I see it too. Although I think she can fundraise for candidates for 2010 in districts where she would clearly be a big help.
Sapwolf on November 13, 2008 at 7:53 PM
You said it much better than my vain attempt at defining Sarah in a Christian context. Whether you believe in it or not, this is who she is. She is a practicing Christian and it permeates her personal and professional life. But she does NOT mix the two. She understands the separation of church and state.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:53 PM
I would put money on it being Charlie from Florida.
sut on November 13, 2008 at 7:54 PM
…*BINGO*…one of the replies one might go all night waiting for….
…there’s also a bit about “…for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence…”. Relying on a figment? I doubt it.
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 7:54 PM
And I think The First Dude keeps her happy, too! (Bastard!)
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I saw that yesterday too. Did you catch the part at the end where they were talking about Barney Frank and how he should do prison time? Dennis said Barney would probably like that. I damn near choked to death cracking up over that one.
Sapwolf on November 13, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 7:49 PM
I might drop a line on Gov. Crist, he’s not the staunchest of conservatives as it is, he doesn’t need to burn bridges by gossiping to a bunch of the media. Not that it was necessarily him but it sure looks silly for her to talk about unity then have some grown man go whining to CNN.
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:55 PM
She does need some learnin’, but we aren’t talking about her running next year. We are all just excited about our prospects going forward. And that includes some other GOP’ers out there – just not the ones without the courage to complain to Gov Palin’s face (maybe they are scared she will field-dress them in public.)
XWing5 on November 13, 2008 at 7:55 PM
I think it’s time Gov’r Palin bowed out and saved herself and her A++ family from these minyons (sp?) of medocrity called the MSM & the RGA.
HotAirJosef on November 13, 2008 at 7:57 PM
gracie on November 13, 2008 at 7:51 PM
I know, my hand fell off after I typed it. Just trying to stay positive.
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I’d put Pawlenty in there as a possibility too. Look at how he’s answered questions on the record. He and Crist are both jockeying for position for 2012. Jindal’s in the 2012 mix too, but he’s been classy in his interviews. I’m all for Palin/Jindal 2016.
meltenn on November 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Thank you for the best post of the night. :-)
I love Sarah Palin. I am not sure what I think about her future. Clearly, she’s sustained considerable damage to her image. Will she recover? Her numbers have already gone up since the election. I want to believe that will continue. She has handled herself unbelievably considering the mis-handling and general negativity that has followed her. Has she made some stupid statements? Sure. Who hasn’t?
There is no doubt in my mind that Palin is getting so much attention – positive and negative – because she stands for something. It’s been a long time since a politician has stirred up passions from people on both sides… and it’s in no small part due to panderers like McCain who run the fence and piss away their convictions. Sarah embodies everything we value, and my hope is that even if she stays in Alaska forever (which would break my heart, personally) that she has reminded the GOP what they stand for. Ed made this point yesterday, but I agree wholeheartedly: If Obama has even a mediocre first term, I would hate to see people like Palin or Jindal hung out to dry against a historic incumbent. We may need 8 years to recover as a party, but I believe that we will.
pinkelephants on November 13, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Gotta love Miller!
meltenn on November 13, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Crist and Pawlenty are the first to receive this award
http://tinyurl.com/5cj8fo
joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Listen, the press loves to focus on the “struggling, lost GOP” and now have decided outright that the whole problem with the election was Palin and she will kill the GOP in the future. They say on MSNBC, regularly, that she will be a pundit on cable news or have her own show, since “she clearly has no future in national politics” blah, blah, blah
I mean, how much is really true? They can spin and embellish anonymous sources as much as they want to.
Moxie on November 13, 2008 at 8:01 PM
I don’t remember the name, but there was a book that came out recently. I think it was a fictional story about a woman who ran as an independent. Everyone thought it would be Hillary (which was wishful thinking). Maybe Sarah will run as an independent in 2012. (Just sayin’)
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 8:01 PM
The GOP might win an election in the same way the European parties do, but they will simply be variations of the same leftist ideology. In Canada we had the Progressive Conservative Party and the Liberal Party and there was absolutely no real difference between the two. I think the same thing will happen to the GOP.
How do you propose to make the DC insiders surrender power?
sharrukin on November 13, 2008 at 8:02 PM
It’s the RINOs who are always talking about a “big tent”, yet they are ready and willing to exclude people because they believe in God and have religion in their lives. Big mistake. Screw that and the MSM. They’re full of themselves right now and if they think provoking this dialog in the Republican Party helps them, they’ve got another thing coming.
This self-examination is necessary to look at who and what succeeds and who and what fails. RINOism reigned supreme in the Republican Party since Bush I called for a “kinder, gentler” (read leftist) nation. Bush I was tossed. That led to Clinton. Bush II bankrupted the nation. That led to The One. The One plans to finish the job.
Shall we take from this a lesson that liberalism disguised as Republican is a good thing? Dream on.
Feedie on November 13, 2008 at 8:02 PM
So how does that reconcile with Obama? He stood for nothing.
Oh wait, I forgot. He stood for Change.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 8:04 PM
If this stuff isn’t true, then I’ll be right here waiting for one of the other governors to come forward and fight against the reports. Anyone? Helllooooo…anyone there?? Gov Perry?? Pawlenty?? Hey, where’d everybody go?
XWing5 on November 13, 2008 at 8:05 PM
You know something Sherry? I’d be happy if he did join her team. At least Dick wants to win and will do what it takes to win including emphasizing the need for the GOP to duplicate the fundraising/grassroots system of Obama’s.
The worry though with Dick M. is that he trys to pull her away too far from her core Cons/Libert. beliefs.
It would be so much fun watching those two work together and give it their best shots at a transformation of Sarah to a real serious leader. Could you imagine her with Petraeus as VP or some other?
Could be really exciting. Jindal coming up too.
Sapwolf on November 13, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Or she could run as a Conservative. Not many of those out there right now.
XWing5 on November 13, 2008 at 8:06 PM
This sentence is insane.
Jim Treacher on November 13, 2008 at 8:06 PM
; )
Seriously though, it was an offensive comment. How dare they compare the RNC to me!
raaaaaaaaaaaacist!
dead-duck on November 13, 2008 at 8:08 PM
And uh, he doesn’t look like the other presidents. ;-)
pinkelephants on November 13, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Is there a reason I can’t post? It’s deleted 4 of mine… what the hell.
Anyway.
and uh, he doesn’t look like the other presidents… ;-)
pinkelephants on November 13, 2008 at 8:10 PM
I think any leader who stands on principle is going to be polarizing. Reagan was polarizing, too; McCain tried not to be. Let’s look at the election results…
ddrintn on November 13, 2008 at 8:10 PM
What he ^^^ said. + 1
Hog Wild on November 13, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I can name another: Camille Paglia. Oh, the irony.
ddrintn on November 13, 2008 at 8:12 PM
a majority thought that Obama was ready to be president
go figure
joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 8:04 PM
And Hope.
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 8:13 PM
…do you also think that Mike Huckabee was/is unelectable? After all, he’s gone a step further, inasmuch as he’s not only a believer who doesn’t seem shy about mentioning The Great Judge, but is an ordained minister. As a Baptist, which he is, that’s like saying “I’m not only a member, I’m president of Salvation Club for Men”.
Personally, I think that she’s a polarizing figure…and would remind you that Mr. Obama was/is/will remain one, as well…that was a strength! He polarized hundreds of millions of spondulicks out of the wallets of Mr. and Mrs. Lefty, and polarized ‘em right into the voting booth.
The problem with the Republican Party is that it has folks who polarize all the wrong way…and then won’t stand up and defend themselves! They all want to be loved…and, to their credit, some of ‘em — Fred Thompson, Huckabee, Mr. Bush — actually come across as lovable…they’re just horrible politicians. They’re lukewarm or toothless or all too available as a pop-up target for the Left to be anything approaching a statesman.
What do you think Mr. Reagan or Mr. Roosevelt (take your pick) would’ve made of some of the juvenile borderline treasonous leaks, attacks, and revelations of covert operations we’ve been treated to during eight years of Democrats in opposition? Even Billy Clinton would’ve risen to the occasion, God bless him, as he did once or twice, losing his cool while his wife ran for Empress and High Priestess.
In short, we need polarizing.
The problem is that, given that the MSM is in the tank, it’s damned hard to control the message. You need someone savvy, articulate, quick…all marketing high-points, which I think is what you’re getting at; and which I agree with you in thinking Gov. Palin lacks right now…but who also stands for something, and is seen for standing for it.
…what did John McCain stand for? Being a maverick, which means what exactly?…bipartisanship in a town where bipartisanship means that you’ve got twice as many byzantine villains stabbing you in the back…compromise of the “kumbaya” sort, when today’s problems require a clear vision with some guts behind it….
We need a leader, as well, who recognizes that Americans don’t need leadership…we need someone who can wrestle the government alligators back into the swamp. Mr. Obama’s vision, and that of his party and enablers, is that everything should flow through the government, apparently…for approval, apparently…paternal, to be sure, and some folks need paternal…but, by and large, the rest of us don’t….
…as to moral rigidity, I’d have to say that a few mentions of the Creator and/or is Sacrificed Son don’t constitute moral rigidity…Falwell, possibly…Bob Jones U., almost certainly…but, then, does Jeremiah Wright sound like a guy you’d like to spend any time with in a small car in Chicago traffic? Does Rahm Emmanuel seem like he’s a boon companion if you don’t agree with him…exactly?
…take a look back at the Mo Dowds, the Lefty mavens and Daily KOS robots who attacked Gov. Palin on everything from her qualifications pro/con to her not getting an abortion…that’s morally and ideologically flexible…they’re all for a woman in power…so long as they get to pick and vet the woman…or else….
…so polarizing is OK…the person is important…but what they stand for and communicate is key…and they have to be able to recognize politics for what it is…a knife fight….
…and they need to bring a howitzer….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Which of course must be the fault of the bottom of the ticket, despite the top of the ticket’s long time propensity to stab his party in the back. Even in the campaign he did things to suppress his own party’s turnout (amnesty ads, etc).
Spirit of 1776 on November 13, 2008 at 8:17 PM
There they are. Oops. :-)
Amen. I don’t really see much difference between polarization and the elusive unification…
pinkelephants on November 13, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Dat’s ok…put your hand back on…you have the Grace of Mrs. Palin trying to think good thoughts and do good deeds…shame on you…
Look out…God might be watching.
gracie on November 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Yeah, if we’re supposed to blame Palin for the loss, I suppose we have to credit Biden for the win.
Hello? Anybody? Didn’t think so.
Jim Treacher on November 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I’m going to photoshop my voter registration card and replace Party:Republican with Party:Stupid.
Now is NOT the time for fratricide for the Stupid party. Take a look at what the left ran…. an empty suit with some horrendous skeltons in his closet and a VP who starts doing the armageddon “gird your loins” at speeches.
Unfortunately our society has become shallow as hell. Sarah Palin can win a lot of people over with personality. The republicans have to do a lot of research into left-right brain thinking and understand how to use that. Let her use her personality and bully pulpit to get into office and then we can get the agenda of the country back on course.
Let’s have the republicans spend half as much time trashing sarah palin and twice as much time bringing out the idiocy of reed, pelosi, emannuel, obama etc. Maybe the republicans need something like the aircraft recognition cards of WWII (ie.. B17 – friend,, ME109 – Enemy, Spitfire – Friend, Kate – enemy).. Methinks the republicans are having some trouble with their target id process.
Gotta go get some vino….
bullseye on November 13, 2008 at 8:19 PM
These governors are simply part of the RINO’s machine that McCain came from. Since McCain’s crash and burn, they assumed they would be the defacto leaders……but Oooopsie!!! Sarah is kicking their butts in popularity!
These clowns are so detached from what regular folks think that they cannot comprehend her appeal. Sure they say the right things at times, but that is only because some pollster or staffer looked at some data and tells them what to say. They could no more sit down and have a conversation with us than speak Martian.
Sarah can and that scares them. They, especially the RINO’s, look at us as the great unwashed and there is no way we can know what is best for us.
csdeven on November 13, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Now that’s one flag I can burn and stamp on.
Thanks for the link.
Sapwolf on November 13, 2008 at 8:20 PM
I remember a TV show: “Commander in Chief” with Geena Davis in the title role. She lost (sigh) to a cranky, bad old man. Didn’t watch it – it was a cheap attempt to imitate that fable “The West Wing”.
HotAirJosef on November 13, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Crist is a sorry excuse for a Republican. If he’s the future of this party I quit.
pinkelephants on November 13, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Yes, but,
I don’t mean to be stubborn or willful, but what exactly is the sniping? I think the dude taking her by the elbow seemed rude. But, isn’t it fairly obvious that the reporters only report “off-the-record” sniping and ever more routinely find it preferable simply to create quotes. Too many soap opera writers must be out of work, trying to make it in journalism.
It reeks. If Republican Governors are dumb enough to turn on Palin, then I need to 1)switch party again 2)clean out the refuse that stinks.
It isn’t about ideological purity anymore; it’s just good housekeeping that is in question.
anti-boomer on November 13, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Come on, stop it now.
I don’t blame the moderate Republicans, I blame the my-way-or-hell folks on both sides.
HotAirJosef on November 13, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Talk about WWII planes. At the end of the Palin Rally in Polk City, FL, some guy buzzed the base in a P-51 Mustang. Way cool entertainment while I waited for the parking area to clear out. They also had a B-24 and a P-40. Makes me want to reinstall “IL-2 Sturmovik” and give it another go.
Sapwolf on November 13, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Crist has a tan like Danny Devito’s character in “Wiseguys”
he sprays it on
joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I blame the Republicans who think … “dem way or no way”
joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 8:25 PM
…non-believers need to remember the origin of that old saying, “don’t hide your light under a bushel”….
…in other words, live openly as a believer…belief is, indeed, private…and I’m the last one to advocate anyone believing all over his neighbors…or, as Mr. Obama advocated to his own evangelists, “in their faces”….
…just don’t be a “believer for public consumption”, or use it as a campaign tactic…don’t pray in loud voices, to be heard, thinking that attracting attention to yourself will somehow attract souls to heaven. There’s an admonition here, too:
…the Sermon on the Mount is just so very quotable, isn’t it….
…but, one should not be ashamed of prayer, or of belief:
…so, if you do indeed feel yourself on the side of truth, let all the Pilates of the world (”What is truth?”) chatter on…and explain to those deficient in understanding that you’re just going about your business — even as a politician — and that you look outside yourself for relief, help and direction…all too infrequently, I’d bet….
…there…a reply and a Sunday School class…not bad for a Thursday….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 8:28 PM
My gov, Crist, will not be a contender. No way. His personal life would never stand up to the scrutiny. If he thinks otherwise and gets people to support him it will be a disaster.
bdestini on November 13, 2008 at 8:30 PM
everything is anonymous. if it doesn’t have a source, it is fabricated. thank you.
anti-boomer on November 13, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Beside CNN and Politico do we have any verification from a non biased source that this is true? How many lies have been tossed out already and we accept them?
CCRWM on November 13, 2008 at 8:32 PM
I think the Governors responses could be characterized as ‘vagina envy’.
pocomoco on November 13, 2008 at 8:34 PM
you are among friends here. no longer a time to be ashamed of faith. much better to be bold and strong, otherwise you don’t believe that He is with you.
thank you.
anti-boomer on November 13, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Oh, poor little boys, are they jealous of Sarah? She must instill enormous fear in them.
No, his personal life wouldn’t stand up. He’s also a RINO who tries to take all sides of an issue. My then 8 year old son once asked me “Mom, are you going to be able to hold your nose long enough to vote for Crist?” (Smart kid.)
obladioblada on November 13, 2008 at 8:36 PM
…come now, old man…what did you think would happen when you chose “dead-duck” as a nick? Had to happen sometime….
…I’m waiting for someone to suggest “limpd*ck”…and am expecting someone with that nick or a permutation thereof to take umbrage…my bet would be that, with a nick like that, he’d be a KOS troll….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Palin and Crist talking
http://tinyurl.com/5drkqo
joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I think Morris is very strategic. I do also fear that he would position her a little on the moderate side, but I also think she has been there, done that with McCain and learned her lesson. And one other thing, he got burned by Hill/Bill and he has an axe to grind which will make him all the more effective.
I like your thoughts on Petraeus. He would bring the national security/foreign policy cred to the ticket,with a solid resume unlike Biden who only came with tenure. I think it will be fun to watch Palin and Jindal rise in the next 4 years and create good solid names for themselves. If they were the ticket, that would be real change and could draw in the young voters. I think they would be the youngest ticket in history.
sherry on November 13, 2008 at 8:51 PM
bdestini on November 13, 2008 at 8:30 PM
But he’s engaged!!!!!!!!
Cindy Munford on November 13, 2008 at 8:51 PM
…thank you…truly…just making the point….
…the thing is that folks’ve been sold that whenever politicians or public figures demonstrate any shred of faith in public, a whole truckload of stereotypes come into play, from “morally rigid” to wanting to set up a theocracy to caring one way or the other how other people…er…dispose of their genitalia….
…we can thank a great many Alinsky agit-prop operatives for some of that…generations of “the preacher is a hypocrite” folks who think that all preachers are hypocrites, and all their congregations are, as well…going back to Servetus, on through the so-called Enlightenment to Michael Newdow today….
…ever notice: religious, the ages were “dark”…worldly, the ages were “enlightened”…guillotines and all….
…anyway….
…we can also thank the likes of the so-called Moral Majority, Dobson, and others who’re making Christianity into just another political action committee….
…and, then, there are Swaggart and his ilk:
…which would be expanded in today’s context to include the “How Would Jesus Vote” crowd…the Judaizers of the “thou shalt not” ilk…and the killjoys amongst us who take offense at the least little bump from non-believers…as guilty themselves as the atheists they claim to fight….
…the only time The Savior raised His voice, He was throwing the money-changers out of the temple…He was preaching…He was raising the dead (”Lazarus, come forth”)…or He was on the cross….
…so, I doubt that He’d be considered a likely campaigner by today’s standards…then again, He’s done pretty well for Himself…and, for us, too….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 8:56 PM
I’ll be so glad when assorted trolls and astroturfers get tired of baiting people here and go home so we can have some rational discourse again.
Sigh.
Bob's Kid on November 13, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 8:56 PM
more worrisome than how the secularists paint believers is how believers turn on each other at the mere hint of impropriety. many a conservative warrior falls to the Pharisees of the right. When one joins the left, it’s ok to worship alinsky And claim adherence to Christ. What leeway! We conservatives are doing ourselves no favors, condemning a man like Stevens or like Cunningham, or like G Gordon Liddy, or Scooter Libby, or Nixon, or McCarthy, or Larry Craig, or take your pick… who on our side are you ashamed of?
anti-boomer on November 13, 2008 at 9:17 PM
But he’s engaged!!!!!!!!
LMAO I have a feeling the engagement will be ending in the near furture.
sut on November 13, 2008 at 9:25 PM
…when considering the affairs of mankind, especially politics, it’s handy to remember a handy little snippet of Scripture:
…remember that next time anyone tells you to “follow your heart”…I quote a man much wiser than myself who describe his heart being filled with only two things: sin and cholesterol….
…so, the insane doings of man have a context….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Sarah needs a Lee Atwater type to put an effective team and message together.
BTW Puritan I enjoy your thoughtful posts. Kind of reminds me of our old friend manly_rash, without the rash
JonPrichard on November 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM
That would only happen if (God forbid) Sarah Palin were six feet under or if there’s absolutely no possibility that their Messiah will *&^up royally. Insecurity, you know.
ddrintn on November 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM
As with the report from Rich Lowry, if you can’t name names, STFU
Captain America on November 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Extraordinarily high # of trolls on this thread. Big aSs, bill AyERs, numbnuts norris. time to fumigate HotAir.
james23 on November 13, 2008 at 9:44 PM
As for the unnamed governors: same message to them as to the weasel “McCain staffers.” We are going to find out who you are, then you are history.
james23 on November 13, 2008 at 9:45 PM
It was clear that the presser was a sop to the media. It was they who wanted answers to their questions, not Gov. Palin calling the press conference.
Moreover, Gov. Perry abruptly stepped in and ended the presser after four questions.
Finally, Gov. Palin made a consistent and focused effort to move the questions and the discussion to the Republican governors and seriously attempted to take the focus off of her.
The other governors are crying because they can’t get the spotlight off of her and on to them, but it’s not her spotlight nor the governors.
Captain America on November 13, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Palin needs to step back.
chiefeditor on November 13, 2008 at 9:51 PM
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