Unbelievable: GOP governors sniping at Palin over press conference

posted at 5:55 pm on November 13, 2008 by Allahpundit

To my fellow bloggers: The next time you get an e-mail from someone saying it’s time to organize a conservative netroots, bear in mind that it’s these morons, by and large, whom that person wants you to support. The same people who couldn’t muster a judgment on the bailout independent of Nancy Pelosi being a big meanie, the same people who can’t organize a press conference without having it descend into backbiting and recriminations.

Some Republican governors tell CNN they were not particularly happy with the way the Republican Governors Association press conference was executed Thursday, saying that they agreed to go as a show of GOP governors’ unity — but they ended up feeling like silent Palin supporters, since it was clearly a press conference called for her.

The GOP governors spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity.

One called it awkward: “I’m sure you could see it on some of our faces.”

Another Republican governor eyeing a presidential run in 2012 told CNN the event was “odd” and “weird,” and said it “unfortunately sent a message that she was the de facto leader of the party.”

This isn’t about Palin, it’s about basic competence on messaging. The McCain camp couldn’t manage it and now the governors can’t either. Who’s left?


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Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 8:56 PM

The televised practice of religion has been a net minus to the reputation of Christianity. The main form of back communication is money. Never been a fan of the mega-church thing.

Besides the work of Alinsky and co., I believe that our (up to now) successful society is so based in biblical truths that many people aren’t consciously aware of it. There are many guilty consciences desperate to escape any sign of it; I think that explains a lot of the reflexive hostility.

I’ve had some fun putting on the buckle-brimmed hat and swinging a hatchet toward the maypole of merry mount. It even gets some of the younger righties riled up. Maybe it’s my disgust with five feet of above-ground sewage culture and I’m being too sensitive about normal guy stuff. I get sick of all the post-adolescents who think everyone wants to hear about their dumbass sex lives.

The strength of conservatism is in places like HA, where so many different voices are free to be heard. I like it that voices like “Jetboy” are heard here. This is where the real power is. We must figure out how to use it if we are stop the leftist destroyers.

Feedie on November 13, 2008 at 9:57 PM

the event was “odd” and “weird,” and said it “unfortunately sent a message that she was the de facto leader of the party.”

I hope whoever the wussie was that said this reads HA, if you don’t like it step up and become a leader. And if it was charlie crist who said it, you are a flaming liberal and will never fool anyone outside of Florida, doofus.

peacenprosperity on November 13, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Palin needs to step back.
chiefeditor on November 13, 2008 at 9:51 PM

NO – Sarah NEEDS to accept the torch of the Conservative Movement! The jerks in the GOP, like the sniping Governors and people who post JUNK like the ABOVE – NEED to Step Back!!

grtflmark on November 13, 2008 at 10:20 PM

on condition of anonymity

Cowards. Are all GOP elected officials this spineless? I thought it was just the Washington GOP.

Troy Rasmussen on November 13, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Crist thinks he is Don Johnson or something

joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Washington D.C. that is.

Troy Rasmussen on November 13, 2008 at 10:24 PM

An overwhelming majority of Americans said she’s not ready to be president

Neither Factual, NOR Accurate – Over 62% of the American People said she HELPED McCain……and Statistics PROVED that she got McCain A MINIMUM of an additional 4%-5% of the National Vote……and MANY say that SHE ALONE prevented the election from being an OBAMA LANDSLIDE!!

GET REAL – AND STOP LYING!!

grtflmark on November 13, 2008 at 10:24 PM

the event was “odd” and “weird,” and said it “unfortunately sent a message that she was the de facto leader of the party.”

I hope whoever the wussie was that said this reads HA, if you don’t like it step up and become a leader. And if it was charlie crist who said it, you are a flaming liberal and will never fool anyone outside of Florida, doofus.

peacenprosperity on November 13, 2008 at 10:13 PM

If they have to whine about Sarah Palin being the “de facto leader of the party”, it means that she’s in fact the leader of the party.

ddrintn on November 13, 2008 at 10:25 PM

…remember that next time anyone tells you to “follow your heart”…I quote a man much wiser than myself who describe his heart being filled with only two things: sin and cholesterol….
…so, the insane doings of man have a context….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Ecclesiastes 11:1
[Rejoice, o young man, in your youth, and let your heart cheer you in the days of your youth; walk in the ways of your heart, and in the sight of your eyes; but know that for all these god will bring you into judgment. Therefore remove sorrow from your heart, and put away evil from your flesh, for childhood and youth are transitory.]
The Bible doesn’t mention cholesterol. But, even the wisest man counsels one to follow the ways of the heart. You, puritan, must be an ascetic.

anti-boomer on November 13, 2008 at 10:25 PM

She is on record saying she might run in 2012 if God tells her to.

Come on.

And did you utter a peep when Obama said that “A light will shine down from somewhere…it will light upon you…you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself I have to vote for Barack.” Combined with his quip of “to know me is to love me,” looks like YOUR dude thinks he IS God, not just looking for guidance!!

EasyEight on November 13, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Another “some fill in the blank say” story about Sarah Palin. Shocking! Sarah is a Rockstar for the GOP and the Obama Loving Media knows it. That is why you are seeing them attack her, she is a serious threat. But it was pretty obvious from other reports the Governors were happy to have Sarah amongst them.

BiasedGirl on November 13, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Charlie Christ is a RINO socialism lite rePooblican…trust me in in miami so i know…hes no different than Mccain…& to these anonymous governors whining… spare me the egos.. Pain pwnes you.

Conservator23 on November 13, 2008 at 10:36 PM

She is on record saying she might run in 2012 if God tells her to.

Come on.

And did you utter a peep when Obama said that “A light will shine down from somewhere…it will light upon you…you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself I have to vote for Barack.” Combined with his quip of “to know me is to love me,” looks like YOUR dude thinks he IS God, not just looking for guidance!!

EasyEight on November 13, 2008

Or when Obama said he had a “righteous wind” at his back??
If McCain or Palin had said that,, I can see the truckloads of screaming journalist hacks asking “Are you saying Obama is not righteous?? Do you mean to say God is on your side and not Obama’s?”
On and on it would go,

JellyToast on November 13, 2008 at 10:41 PM

What a bunch of cowards! My God, and there goes another “anonymous source” story. This is becoming a parody of itself. She’s getting all of the spotlight because the media is following her around like papparazzi.

Oh and BTW, Gov. Palin did a great job on Larry King, where Larry acted like an a-hole. He was nicer to Ahmedenajad! Every question to her had an attitude; there was no light-hearted question, and God forbid a softball!

ashleymatt on November 13, 2008 at 10:47 PM

What a bunch of cowards! My God, and there goes another “anonymous source” story. This is becoming a parody of itself.
ashleymatt on November 13, 2008 at 10:47 PM

Yeah, and it’s gonna backfire on them. The Internet doesn’t forget — with help from our hard-working bloggers. If it’s a lie, then the MSM is burning its RINO pals. If it’s the truth, RINOs have discredited themselves again. Either way, it makes conservatives more determined to confront liberal Republicans losers. Be miffed and don’t worry about rancor right now. There’s plenty of time.

Feedie on November 13, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Peachy. Even GOP governors lack the guts to say something without taking the cowardly “on condition of annonymity” route? Or, is because they realize, sliming Palin really pisses off the base?

I’m going with option B.

Possible Suspects:

Tim Pawlenty: Sour grapes over getting passed over for Palin? Frustrated that his incompetant governance very well may allow Al Frankin to steal a Senate seat and solidify the 60 seat “Fillbuster-proof Nation Killing” Dem majority? Total weiner?

Crist: Possible contender for the nom in 2012 and has come off as a bit of a douche in the past, soooo…

Jodi Rell: Female, RINO, figurehead governor (In Connecticut, The Courts make OUR laws! ***sigh***) jealous of a woman with actual power, projects authority and has a future? (Rell’s future? Probably writing books nobody’ll read.) Wouldn’t exactly put her in a minority amongst elitist women nationwide, now would it?

Rick Perry: Wants that nomination in 2012 and wants it baaaad. Deep down, we all know it, Rick. Don’t pretend you don’t. That and he’s the guy who cut her press conference short. Sounds like he feels…threatened.

CNN: Wouldn’t be the first time they just made stuff up and reported it as the truth.

Nicole Wallace: “Gonna have to face it she’s addicted to smear.” Somebody find out if she was there scouting her next campaign Sugar Daddy. If she was, wouldn’t put it past CNN to make her a governor to give it legs.

Tracey Schmitt: See Nicole Wallace

I’m gonna go Palpatine here for a second and say we find out who these jokers are, confront them, make ’em go on record, and then “…Wipe them out. ALL of them.”

In a political sense.

Difference of opinion is one thing.

Skullduggery and petty back-biting is another.

The first should be encouraged in a political party (ideally) and the second must be not only discouraged but punished and punished harshly. Make the “Annonymous” lepers and a parriah within the party ranks and drive them from our tent!

A “Chuck Norris Class” thumbs up to Haley Barber for being a man and batting these garbage insinuations down like Kong swats bi-planes.

SuperCool on November 13, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Sara Palin will not run in 2012. She will run in 2016. She knows that in 2012 Obama will still be black, 99% of blacks will still vote for him, 70% of Hispanics will still vote for him, and she understands that sexism is the next big hurdle of bigotry and it starts with white older conservatives who won’t say it out loud. They will still stay at home in 2012.

Robb on November 13, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Stalin wouldn’t have dealt with this crap

joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM

These little jerks need to grow a set and say what they want to say to her face and not hide behind some reporter!!!

thmcbb on November 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM

“We’re hearing now more talk of additional taxpayer bailouts … for companies, for corporations, perhaps even states now who may be standing in line with their hands out despite, perhaps, some poor management decisions on their part that helped tank our economy,”

“Republicans can help shore (these sectors of the economy) up without getting any more addicted to opium, other people’s money,” she argued. “We need to have a rational discussion. What and when is enough enough?”

– The Cuda

Totally different from the campaign talking points she had to parrot …

joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Is Sarah Palin really going to be the leader of the republican party?

goldeagle11 on November 14, 2008 at 12:02 AM

The funny thing is that these scared governors want to be the leader of the country and the party, but they hide their names.
Thank God for Palin.

jencab on November 14, 2008 at 12:28 AM

This PUMA (yes, we still exist) still supports Palin.

She is a class act, and while I disagree with her on certain social issues, she is a true American voice, who is still a bachelorette amidst the polygamyst Washington orgy that’s corrupted all sorts of politicians from both parties.

I’m behind her, come hell or high water.

Go, Sarah, Go! Keep getting the media attention, girl — and Dazzle ’em!

lansing quaker on November 14, 2008 at 12:38 AM

It’s disgusting listening to all of this Palin-bashing from our own party.

I don’t think she’s the greatest thing since the dawn of civilization, but some of us like her, okay?

She’s normal, conservative, and-*gulp*-enthusiastic about her conservatism. You know what? No one here knows who the candidates will be in 2012. There’s a good chance it’ll be someone we barely know or think about now.

But Palin’s cool, many of us like her. Don’t worry. There will be plenty of liberal, elite, tax-and-spend Republicans for you guys to drool over before 2012… let us conservatives enjoy the one politcal bright spot we have out there, huh?

Thanks.

12thMonkey on November 14, 2008 at 1:14 AM

RINOs, sit down and shut up, since in case you did not get the memo, you are not the future of this party!

drunyan8315 on November 14, 2008 at 1:17 AM

This PUMA (yes, we still exist) still supports Palin.
lansing quaker on November 14, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Glad to hear it. You folks were sorely mistreated. I watched the wewillnotbesilenced videos.

these scared governors want to be the leader of the country and the party, but they hide their names.
jencab on November 14, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Ain’t that the truth. What they are doing to Palin isn’t a sign of strength; it’s a sign of weakness. They are terrified.

She’ll see how things go before 2012. The funny thing is I don’t believe she’s someone who has to have it. What a headache of a job. She could walk away easily or answer the call if she felt there was no one else to fill the vacuum of leadership.

Feedie on November 14, 2008 at 1:24 AM

Let’s see, the Republican nominee for VPOTUS in this year’s just completed national election shows up for the Republican Governor’s Conference in sunny Miami in her role as a sitting Governor. And some of her colleagues are WHINING because most of the press attention is devoted to her?!!? Cry me a f***ing river. Man, I’m gonna just hafta gas up the car, buy some DP and Corn Nuts and take a long roadtrip around the nation slapping the sheeeeit out of a lot of supposed Republicans.

I wonder if one of the whiners was Carl Cameron’s snitch…

p.s. Has anyone seen John McCain come to the defense of his wingman, yet?

Gohawgs on November 14, 2008 at 1:38 AM

come on guys.. it’s another CNN made-up story, I don’t understand why we keep falling for such craps.

How come we never hear CNN quoting anonymous sources saying bad things about Obama or the Democrats? What is it always anonymous sources saying bad things about the Republicans?

Borat on November 14, 2008 at 1:45 AM

Two things:

1-Told ya people, Sarah is UNLEASHED. Incoherent at interviews, that was because she was following the RINO line of thought and was restrained big time.

2-Hope all the gossiping *men tend to be worse than women, trust me* and sorry for the comment but I did experienced that in the workforce. This better end by Thanksgiving.

And I don’t mind Sarah stories at all; like I posted in another thread, I need “Sarah weaning”.

ProudPalinFan on November 14, 2008 at 1:58 AM

SuperCool on November 13, 2008 at 11:21 PM

he said, skullduggery. hehe and, a president says on condition of anonymity that Obama may have been a member of skull and bones! i’m going to cross reference that with my other anonymous sources.

anti-boomer on November 14, 2008 at 2:01 AM

Can anybody elaborate a proven RINO “Black List”? (no pun intended).

ProudPalinFan on November 14, 2008 at 2:02 AM

SuperCool I am gonna hit the hay//but that sort of stuff is on the infowars site. They have been after Bush 4ever, with Obama they will have their hands full.

ProudPalinFan on November 14, 2008 at 2:03 AM

Is Sarah Palin really going to be the leader of the republican party?

At risk of heresy and obstinacy, I would say no. More than enough of her own brand of elitism is why. Gun ownership doesn’t diminish it. Fighting “Big Oil” doesn’t diminish it. Her husband being a Steelworker doesn’t diminish either. She’s merely someone who’s managed to look “normal” while being anything but normal.

I for one do not drink that kool-aid.

sethstorm on November 14, 2008 at 2:09 AM

Wow, I just read some history that relates to the conservative vs. RINO debate. Got started on Robert Novak’s memoir, The Prince of Darkness. Most biographies bog me down, but this one breezes along. It’s pre-Election 1960, Nixon vs. JFK.

From pages 74-75:

On the Saturday before the election, I [Novak] phoned Barry Goldwater at his home in Phoenix… Goldwater now agreed with Rockefeller that Nixon was going to lose, but that was his only agreement with the governor. This is what Goldwater told me… [remember it was 1960]: “Nixon made his basic mistake by moving to the left to woo an urban Democratic vote and particularly a Negro vote that was irrevocably DemocraticNixon’s gestures toward the left… had not only lost Nixon his golden opportunity to become the first Republican in a generation to bring out the full conservative vote but also botched up the chance to sweep all or most of the segregationist South [Democrat].”

Vote fraud was part of the story too, but here is a different lesson from history. Way to go, Novak!

Feedie on November 14, 2008 at 2:15 AM

You know what? I’m sure some other geniuses in here prolly already said this, BUT…
All this is normal. But with a small twist.,..

Its normal jockying, due to the field being pretty wide open.
People want to come together to put a show of unity BUT…they are all vying for that top spot.
The thing is…they can all get their dukes up and show us what they’re made of in the primaries/debates when the time comes. Then we can see whos got the stuff.

HERES THE TWIST THOUGH.

Out of all these people, of which I have the highest of respect for (cuz govorners DO stuff)…
OUt of all of them..only one person is saying it like it is.
Saying it out loud.
Saying it with teeth and with force.
Took a HELL of alot of crap and attacks and continued to even after the race..
And that person is Sarah Palin.

And now…these govs are speaking anonymously? Scuse me?

You gots sompin to say? Have the balls to say it out loud.
So far, the only one that does and IS saying it out loud…Is a chick by the name of ‘CUDA’.

Handel on November 14, 2008 at 3:31 AM

From Byron York’s article:

“I think Gov. Palin is an extremely talented person, and she’s going to be one of the key voices of the party, for Republicans, for a long time to come,” Pawlenty answered. “All I can say is that John McCain made very clear that one of his key criteria for selecting a VP running mate was that that person was ready to be president on day one. So in his judgment, she met that criteria, and he felt strongly about that, and so we’ll have to defer to his judgment and that process.”

Translation: the pretty face can stay on the campaign trail, and in the kitchen.

Leave the results to us qualified men.

Just calling it like I see it.

Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:32 AM

I for one do not drink that kool-aid.

ahhh a tea drinker…..Pinky up youngster. Pinky up.

Handel on November 14, 2008 at 3:32 AM

Translation: the pretty face can stay on the campaign trail, and in the kitchen.

Leave the results to us qualified men.

Just calling it like I see it.

Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:32 AM

dude..thats just dopey. Really.
Anyone that says that she is merely a ‘pretty face’ is saying so out of a sense of being threatened by her or ignorance of what she’s done. Or maybe both. More than likely both.

I don’t know ya, And i’ll give ya the benifit of the doubt, but comon now..you gotta give her some credit where credit is due.
Otherwise you just look foolish .

Handel on November 14, 2008 at 3:37 AM

Woops..sorry “hawkins” I think I read ya wrong. Its late and I need me some sleeps.

Sorry again.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Handel on November 14, 2008 at 3:39 AM

[quote]Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:32 AM[/quote]

And yes, I know that was harsh, and I know York also mentioned this:

“It wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement, and none of the others at the table — Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, former eBay CEO and top [b]McCain aide Meg Whitman[/b], and former OMB chief Rob Portman — said specifically that they would have been comfortable with Palin as president.”

But what can I say? I will never understand this idea, from our own side especially, that Palin was unqualified.

Obama makes a few nice speeches, does nothing in either Senate he serves in, and magically, here we are.

What an f’ing joke.

Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:41 AM

Woops..sorry “hawkins” I think I read ya wrong. Its late and I need me some sleeps.

Sorry again.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Handel on November 14, 2008 at 3:39 AM

Yep, ’twas sarcasm, Handel. :-)

Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:32 AM

And yes, I know that was harsh, and I know York also mentioned this:

“It wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement, and none of the others at the table — Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, former eBay CEO and top McCain aide Meg Whitman, and former OMB chief Rob Portman — said specifically that they would have been comfortable with Palin as president.”

But what can I say? I will never understand this idea, from our own side especially, that Palin was unqualified.

Obama makes a few nice speeches, does nothing in either Senate he serves in, and magically, here we are.

What an f’ing joke.

Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:41 AM

Previous post fixed.

Hawkins1701 on November 14, 2008 at 3:42 AM

If the GOP Governors really want to help the party they should all be looking at their state election laws and developing ways to combat voter fraud.

Done That on November 14, 2008 at 5:08 AM

Over 62% of the American People said she HELPED McCain……and Statistics PROVED that she got McCain A MINIMUM of an additional 4%-5% of the National Vote……and MANY say that SHE ALONE prevented the election from being an OBAMA LANDSLIDE!!

Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency,

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain

Geochelone on November 14, 2008 at 5:40 AM

Who is that A-hole trying to elbow Governor Palin off the podium? A full one half of his body covers the podium while Governor Palin is speaking at a press conference.

Geochelone on November 14, 2008 at 6:07 AM

LOL … if they want to stop the Palin Express – they’ll have to grow some nads and come out of the closet – on the record – where we can SEE their faces.

The fact that they won’t do that … SPEAKS VOLUMES.

HondaV65 on November 14, 2008 at 6:50 AM

“unfortunately sent a message that she was the de facto leader of the party.”

That’s rich, coming from a bunch of dimtwits who haven’t exactly stepped forward to show much leadership themselves, especially when they don’t even have the malkins to put their own names to their criticisms.

Maybe she IS the de facto leader of the party. Do you think Pawlenty, Crist or Perry could draw crowds of over 20-thousand screaming fanatics, or has the 91% approval ratings among Republicans that Palin does? Nope, didn’t think so.

GrayLoess on November 14, 2008 at 7:09 AM

I have to admit, I don’t get this. I don’t whether the media is just inventing some kind of trouble by reporting all kinds of off the record gossip intended to make Palin look bad or if people are really saying this stuff. I have gotten to the place where I just do not believe a lot of what I hear.

So, unless some of these Governors want to come out and say this stuff publicly, I am going to ignore this petty nonsense.

Terrye on November 14, 2008 at 7:09 AM

I mean really, keep in mind, if it were not for reporters running their mouths we would not hear any of this. They might just be trying to stir up trouble and humiliate Palin. Sounds like their M.O.

Terrye on November 14, 2008 at 7:10 AM

The easiest way for a Republican to get a pat on the head from the MSM is to criticize a fellow Republican who is hated by liberals. No surprise there.

The cool thing about this Governors conference is that Sarah didn’t have to yell, “OK, I’m taking over now! Step aside!” It just happens naturally wherever she goes.

Michelle Malkin is right: There’s something special about this woman.

Mr. Wednesday Night on November 14, 2008 at 7:14 AM

Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

^^This tells where it’s all at.

We just took a whipping boys … and the troops need to be rallied. You’ll find them under the Palin flag if you’re interested or really care.

And if you’re like me – you’re interested and care.

HondaV65 on November 14, 2008 at 7:36 AM

I don’t take away that this is an article about GOP governors sniping at Palin because none of the GOP governors is named, save Haley Barbour who denied it is true.

What a silly waste of time and pixels this piece is. It belongs on TMZ or the National Enquirer.

Maybe it is time to go after the advertisers of news media that insist on delivering gossip in the place of actual news.

w3bgrrl on November 14, 2008 at 7:40 AM

I’m going to say this one more time.

Pay particular close attention to it.

Since Governor Palin took to the national scene, there has only been attacks on her personally. This has been the MO. The reason is clear. They NEED to destroy her.

They have avoided any kind of substantive debate with her, for the simple reason that they HAVE NO POLITICAL ARGUMENT.

Once people get this through their head, we might actually begin to understand why we need to rally around her.

Saltysam on November 14, 2008 at 8:10 AM

She is on record saying she might run in 2012 if God tells her to.

Come on.

You are intellectually dishonest and intellectually deficient.

You fear her don’t you? She is doing interviews, scoring points left and right, and dispelling these myths that she is stupid.

McCain handlers smothered her so she could not speak freely. Well now she is on her own and she is kicking some ass now.

She ruled the press conference at the GOP meeting in FL.

Be afraid, very afraid.

Do you think any governor could raise the money she will raise in any future campaign? She will crush them.

McCain was the drag on the ticket, not Palin. Didn’t you see the crowds during the campaign? She was a smash hit on so many levels.

Geochelone on November 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM

McCain was the drag on the ticket, not Palin. Didn’t you see the crowds during the campaign? She was a smash hit on so many levels.

Geochelone on November 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM

Exactly.

If there is any deliberate upside down thinking going around, it is the direct result of the statist propaganda that Palin cost McCain the election.

Complete rubbish.

Let me get this straight:

All we’ve ever heard in the past is: the VP on a ticket is not what wins elections; the electorate always decides elections based on who is the top-of-the-ticket; in the end it won’t matter who McCain selects as VP, the voter will be focusing on McCain when they enter the voting booth; blah, blah, blah…

But, when Palin enters the scene, all of a sudden the narrative changes,

Now: when a middle-class-conservative-woman-governor that is unbelievably popular across party lines in her state shows up, they shut down any substantive political argument, and relentlessly attack her, personally; although she was the only one on the ticket that could pack the house wherever she went, she’s a drag on the ticket; McCain would have won had he chose another VP; blah, blah, blah…

How dumb does anyone have to be to fall for this garbage?

About as dumb as the idea that people cast their votes for Joe Biden.

The country clubbers may not see a Reagan blossoming, but the Left and the MSM do, and they’re more than happy to accomadate the doubters.

Saltysam on November 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM

I think this is all media manufactured as well. They, (the media) learned during this election that they can get away with just about anything- some truth, no truth, hide the truth, make up the truth, whatever. It keeps the story alive and takes the potlight off Obama and his idiotic cabinet decisions.

ha-ha, “potlight”. typo, but I’m keeping it.

I think the Governor group as a whole is pretty lame- Pawlenty is boring, Crist was completely ineffectual at promoting McCain in Florida, Perry is an ego-maniac- I think they all need to SIT DOWN and shut up for a few months.

On the bright side: There’s a commercial on RIGHT NOW that will allow you to purchase your Obama commemerative coins. Act now. limit two.

anniekc on November 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM

The proof of her merit is the fact they’re still trying to kill her. Damn it, is she the only fighter in the whole &&^(*% party?

dhimwit on November 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM

The narative in the MSM since the introduction of Sarah Palin is not of her accomplishments, but gossip. Since none of it has been true they now have to go with more gossip. They are very afraid, but they can’t seem to help themselves. They keep falling all over themselves getting her on their programs, but her ability to draw people to her is over powering and they must destroy her because she is the new Conservative face of the Republican Party. Her brief history in politics is nothing but accomplishment. The Libs hate that. They know they can’t fight her except to try to demean her. She is tough and is probably the only one in the political arena that is tough enough to take it and counter it and then move on. Which leaves all of the MSM blabbering about nothing. They are trying their best to keep up their ratings/subscribers, but it continues to fall. I just stopped taking our local paper(that has a Republican editor) because all we saw before the election were puff pieces on Obama. For their in depth stuff they depend on the AP. I am retired, but still need to keep my brain working. Nothing in the MSM does that even if they do have Sarah interviews.
Is she ready to lead? Good grief, of course she is. You know she isn’t going to lead this country into Socialism. I am sure she has never thought to take this country down that road. She is all about American values and leadership. It shows all over her face. She is open and honest and we would be able to live in freedom because you know she believes in it from the bottom of her soul. She makes us better people through her optimism and leadership. She lives her life this way and it is very obvious. This is her gift to us. Too bad we have so many people who are afraid of her and not of our new President-elect.

BetseyRoss on November 14, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Anonimity, sitting in silence, disagreeing with the entire situation. From what was said, how it was said, and who was at the forefront of the CNN picture, i can only guess who made the comments. It surprises me that these Govenors, most of them men, don’t have the guts to stand up and make their words known. They have to do this back biting and back room interviews to the media. By God, at least Sarah Palin has the guts and audacity to come and speak her mind.
If anyone else has anything to say, i hope they are man enough to step out into the limelight and make their words be known. Otherwise, as someone once said, “Shut the Hell up!”

Orion Prime on November 14, 2008 at 9:35 AM

We need to get rid of the wimps that mone and cry “why dont they show this much fight against the opposition”
WE NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE and get rid of all the RINOS!
no wonder why we keep getting our clocks cleaned!

time2taketheglovesoffGOP on November 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM

To our GOP governors:

Sarah Palin recently completed a run for the office of Vice President. That makes her a pretty big deal right now.

If YOU want to be center stage, do something similarly noteworthy, and suffer insults, slander, and ridicule on the national stage for a few months.

hawksruleva on November 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Crist thinks he is Don Johnson or something

… and I agree with him, except that Don Johnson doesn’t look like a televangelist, and has more substantive record of accomplishments.

drunyan8315 on November 14, 2008 at 9:39 AM

Despite the petty cowardice of certain anonymous governors trying to undermine her, Sarah Palin emerged from her multiple appearances this week, and from her terrific speech at the RGA, as the de facto leader of the new generation of Republican leadership. As one example only, below is a link to an article that appeared in today’s Philadelphia Bulletin. The paper version was accompanied by a large photo of her giving her speech.
http://tinyurl.com/6l8jp4

Gov. Palin’s remarks at RGA about the bailout-mania were music to my ears, and suggest that she sees here an opportunity for Republicans to regain the mantle of fiscal responsibility. I think that is right on the money.

The only other governor who came out of this conference looking strong was Haley Barber, who spoke clearly about taking care of business in 2009 and 2010, and letting 2012 take care of itself down the road.

Tim Pawlenty, on the other hand, is quoted by Byron York and others as taking an indirect swipe at Palin, helping to cement the impression that he is bitter about being passed over by McCain and that he is NOT a team player. He hurt himself. I don’t trust this guy at all, and have pretty well decided that I will actively oppose any run he makes in 2012.

james23 on November 14, 2008 at 9:47 AM

The whining from these guys is pathetic, maybe they should grow a pair and put some ideas of their own in the public arena.

Palin hating ain’t gonna get’em nowhere. Damn RINOs.

la.rt.wngr on November 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM

Never been a fan of the mega-church thing….

The strength of conservatism is in places like HA, where so many different voices are free to be heard.

Feedie on November 13, 2008 at 9:57 PM

…personally, I think that the terms “mega-” and “church” are mutually exclusive.

I actually attended a musical and comedy show at one of those religous warehouses once…Sandy Patty and Chonda Pierce…Chonda looked at me, bearded at the time and waiting for her to be funny, and suggested that I was one of the church’s humorless deacons…my wife almost fell out of her seat….

You could’ve gotten our own church, minus about 5 feet of the steeple, into the auditorium we sat in…and’ve not had to remove any of the theater seating…so I’m sceptical about the whole “Willow Creek model”…Spurgeon pulled off “Christianity on an industrial scale” at the Metropolitan Tabernacle, but then that was in the 19th Century, and there was only one Spurgeon….

I agree wholeheatedly that places like HA (and I’ve only ever hung out at HA, not any other like sites) is the modern grassroots of conservatism…it’s being hammered in schools, on TV, in movies, and in higher education…it’s only here and talk radio (what that lasts) that conservatives can get together around the old potbellied stove and kvetch (a political dialectic form borrowed from our kosher neighbors).

…it’s especially entertaining when folks don’t agree amongst themselves…the trolls will never understand that…folks have to dig in and defend their stated ideas…intellectual calisthenics…it’s healthy….

…for that reason, finding a way of herding all these cats into something resembling a force which can overturn the even more fractious collection of misfits on the left is the key to the future….

…giddyup, little kitty….

Puritan1648 on November 14, 2008 at 9:53 AM

We just took a whipping boys … and the troops need to be rallied. You’ll find them under the Palin flag if you’re interested or really care.

HondaV65 on November 14, 2008 at 7:36 AM

+1

james23 on November 14, 2008 at 9:53 AM

The Bible doesn’t mention cholesterol. But, even the wisest man counsels one to follow the ways of the heart. You, puritan, must be an ascetic.

anti-boomer on November 13, 2008 at 10:25 PM

…no…not an ascetic, as my waistline attests…I come by the “Puritan” honestly….

…the cholestorol bit was a quip, and a clever one, which is why I borrowed it for use here…it’s illustrative of the point….

…that point: that there’re lots of folks today, and their ilk have always been with us, who counsel us to “follow our hearts”…and the heart is an easily deceived organ…and folks follow that advice to the point of making stuff up, which has crept into churches, hardly on cats feet. More with muddy jackboots.

…heart is mentioned often in Scripture…speaking of the heart is very poetic and can be taken for an admonition to look to ones conscience more often than looking to guidance of ones impulses, which I believe is the point of the verse that I cited…conscience is key….

Puritan1648 on November 14, 2008 at 10:02 AM

This isn’t about Palin, it’s about basic competence on messaging. The McCain camp couldn’t manage it and now the governors can’t either. Who’s left?

Green Envy. It’s an ugly monster. Just as ugly on GOP as iit is on Dems.

Lawrence on November 14, 2008 at 10:04 AM

Kind of reminds me of our old friend manly_rash, without the rash

JonPrichard on November 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM

…high praise indeed! If anyone here is a friend of his, tempt him back. Silly bets can be set aside, and election wounds do heal…but clear voices will be needed over the next four years, and none of us has the luxury of private pique with the nation’s future in the hazard…ideas chewed over here seem to find their way out into the national conversation…as if by magic….

…and I do occasionally have the odd rash, if that helps…wasn’t going to say anything…nothing manly in any of ’em, quite frankly….

Puritan1648 on November 14, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Damn it, is she the only fighter in the whole &&^(*% party?

dhimwit on November 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM

…the problem with the Republican Party, at least the McCain wing (if such a thing still exists), is that they want to go into this knife-fight we call politics and come out still gentlemen. They wish to avoid the mess and mud of combat, so all you have to do to get the better of them is to spread some mess and mud around…they seem to wish to succeed in the arena without having to raise their voices…simply overcome the opposition by the force of their personalities, I presume….

…they would do well to remember that Caesar was killed by gentlemen….

Puritan1648 on November 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM

What these Governors don’t get is that Sarah Palin is now the leader of the Republicans. They may have not decided that themselves, but the electorate of the Republican party did. She is a force to recon with. Come 2012 she will be our front runner and best positioned to take the White HOuse.

Dhitter on November 14, 2008 at 10:28 AM

I’m not a troll but this stuff simply doesn’t help.

What doesn’t help is when this:

“I’m like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I’m like, don’t let me miss the open door,” Palin said in an interview with Fox News.

And if there is an open door in ’12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I’ll plow through that door.”

is rephrased lazily and dishonestly as “Palin will run in 2012 if God tells her to”.

h0mi on November 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM

The funny thing is that these scared governors want to be the leader of the country and the party, but they hide their names.
Thank God for Palin.

jencab on November 14, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Couldn’t agree more.

JustTruth101 on November 14, 2008 at 10:47 AM

The funny thing is that these scared governors want to be the leader of the country and the party, but they hide their names.
Thank God for Palin.

jencab on November 14, 2008 at 12:28 AM

worse than that … we wouldn’t even know about this conference if it wasn’t for the Cuda’s presence

joey24007 on November 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Has anyone been paying attention to what Sarah Palin actually SAID? She said that now is not the time to focus on 2012, but on 2010, and that Republican Governors need to focus on conservative policies to resolve economic problems in their states (implying that they need to blunt the effects of the Obama administration), and winning as many as possible of the 36 Governor’s races in 2010. Does that sound like someone running for President in 2012, or someone running for re-election as Governor in 2010?

To paraphrase our eloquent Vice-President-Elect: Mark my words, and gird your loins! Our brilliant 44-year-old former VP candidate will be tested. She will be attacked, and some people won’t agree with her or understand what she is saying and doing. But the more she is attacked by the media, and the more people focus on her and listen to her, there will be a BACKLASH, in her favor!

Whether or not she is the best Republican candidate for 2012 remains to be seen. A lot can happen between now and then, and there may be other candidates better able to contrast him/herself with the record of the Obama Administration, which no one can foresee for now. But if people focus their attention on Sarah Palin, she will be able to refine her message, which will make more and more sense to voters they watch Obama in action (or inaction).

Steve Z on November 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Has anyone been paying attention to what Sarah Palin actually SAID? She said that now is not the time to focus on 2012, but on 2010, and that Republican Governors need to focus on conservative policies to resolve economic problems in their states (implying that they need to blunt the effects of the Obama administration), and winning as many as possible of the 36 Governor’s races in 2010. Does that sound like someone running for President in 2012, or someone running for re-election as Governor in 2010?

To paraphrase our eloquent Vice-President-Elect: Mark my words, and gird your loins! Our brilliant 44-year-old former VP candidate will be tested. She will be attacked, and some people won’t agree with her or understand what she is saying and doing. But the more she is attacked by the media, and the more people focus on her and listen to her, there will be a BACKLASH, in her favor!

Whether or not she is the best Republican candidate for 2012 remains to be seen. A lot can happen between now and then, and there may be other candidates better able to contrast him/herself with the record of the Obama Administration, which no one can foresee for now. But if people focus their attention on Sarah Palin, she will be able to refine her message, which will make more and more sense to voters they watch Obama in action (or inaction).

Steve Z on November 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Indeed

joey24007 on November 14, 2008 at 11:04 AM

If they have to whine about Sarah Palin being the “de facto leader of the party”, it means that she’s in fact the leader of the party.

ddrintn on November 13, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Score!

No one is stopping anyone from becoming the de facto head of the party.

The press chases Palin for two reasons, first, it obviously sells, and second they may want to take her out politically

This means there is a public appetite for Plain news. That comes because McCain kept her out of his spotlight during the campaign. They did not make Palin commercials which would have had huge impact, and they did not allow Palin to do live interviews which would have revealed the real Palin to the public. Strange insn’t it?

Palin has a charisma that is undeniable aside from politics

The press’ presonal obsession is fear, not love. They do not fear the other governors. The other governors do not threaten to captivate anything higher than an earthworm or a lobbyist. The press smells something about Palin and they are trying to figure it out so they can suppress it

Palin is the de facto threat to the press agenda

That is the real truth. They fear her because they sense she possesses the power to motivate the public.

Power rules in politics

You have the power, you are de facto driving the bus

entagor on November 14, 2008 at 1:04 PM

It sounds like sour grapes to me. The new STAR of the GOP is making some governors jealous. Sarah Palin is a fresh conservative face who possesses a solid moral compass and true Republican values and principles and the RINOS are in a snit. Boo-hoo. Go-Sarah-Go!

sinsing on November 14, 2008 at 1:43 PM

ANONYMOUS MEANS Cowards all…

anonymous

aflyonthewall on November 14, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Any “journalist” can now make up anything to further their narrative and chalk it up to “anonymous sources”. Whenever I see this phrase now I simply discount it.

Maura O on November 14, 2008 at 2:50 PM

For all we know “anonymous sources” could be those voices the journalists hear in their heads.

katiejane on November 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM

To our GOP governors:

Sarah Palin recently completed a run for the office of Vice President. That makes her a pretty big deal right now.

If YOU want to be center stage, do something similarly noteworthy, and suffer insults, slander, and ridicule on the national stage for a few months.

hawksruleva on November 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Hear, freaking here!

hockey2k5 on November 14, 2008 at 8:03 PM

For all the oglers: paparazzi pics of the ‘Cuda by the pool. Calm down, she’s wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
Maybe this is the real reason behind all the sniping: they all want to be ogled at the pool too. It might be fun to see if Crist’s crazy tan extends to his chest. Gag.

meltenn on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Sarah is the new “straight-talk express” and the old guard had just better get used to it. She has proven over and over again that she can take everything they dish out and not only remain standing but keep on fighting. I think she has decided, like Princess Diana did, that if the press is going to follow her around, she may as well make it count and promote what she believes in. And she obviously believes, lives and breathes conservative principles. She is a tough chica and I have nothing but admiration for her. Why Obama, who has yet to have a tough press interview let alone face a serious crisis, is deemed ready on day one rather than Sarah, who has fought a hostile media, Hollywood and politial elite on both sides and come out swinging, will always remain a mystery to me.

Perry is my governor and I have never seen a more slick, manufactured, plastic politician in my life (well, maybe Obama). He is a charter member of the Good Ol’ Boys club and he is just miffed that Sarah not only hasn’t bothered to try to get in, she is starting her own.

inmypajamas on November 14, 2008 at 8:35 PM

For all the oglers: paparazzi pics of the ‘Cuda by the pool. Calm down, she’s wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
Maybe this is the real reason behind all the sniping: they all want to be ogled at the pool too. It might be fun to see if Crist’s crazy tan extends to his chest. Gag.

meltenn on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Wow! At first I didn’t think that was her, but if ya go to the 7 pics they have posted of her, you can definitely know it’s her when you scroll through the 7 pics they have. (Now it looks like that link is broken). Amazing. Now the paparazzi’s after her.

hockey2k5 on November 14, 2008 at 8:50 PM

For all the oglers: paparazzi pics of the ‘Cuda by the pool. Calm down, she’s wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
Maybe this is the real reason behind all the sniping: they all want to be ogled at the pool too. It might be fun to see if Crist’s crazy tan extends to his chest. Gag.

meltenn on November 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Pawlenty probably took the pictures … I can see all of them now behind the fence trying to catch a glimpse

except for Jindal who was back in his hotel room coming up with a new way to calculate distances between stars

joey24007 on November 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM

“I was lost in a blizzard of legs”

joey24007 on November 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM

except for Jindal who was back in his hotel room coming up with a new way to calculate distances between stars
joey24007 on November 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Good one, joey24007. What a wonk Jindal is…. Give me Palin for courage and virtue…2 qualities my kids can’t see enough of.

gracie on November 14, 2008 at 9:22 PM

She is the leader, and you classless other Republican governors who sat on your hands the entire election can now go wipe your rears with those hands. Snarky snipe artists everyone of them.

rlwo2008 on November 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM

I saw the press conference and I also listened to her address to the conference. She obviously went to great lengths to express that she is just one of many. She did not seem to appreciate at all that the press was focused on her. Any criticism of Palin on this is misplaced. Maybe they were actually being critical of the press?

gocatholic on November 15, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Palin has the basic quality’s that the founding fathers of this country had. GUTS,INSTINCT and PRINCIPLES. Something that most of these politicians checked at the door on their way into Washington. I really have to laugh at the people that say, “she isn’t smart enough” or “not ready”.
That goes along with the same John Kerry thinking that, “only dummies enlist in the military”… and then fly $30 million dollar jets, because they’re just not smart enough to make it outside in the real world.
The thinking in this country has got to change!!

jkells on November 15, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Palin is the de facto threat to the press agenda

Bingo. When conservative ideas are presented fairly and objectively alongside leftist ideas, in America they will win every time. Preventing that is what the press regards as their Job #1, and the best way to prevent that is to destroy any charismatic conservative.

There’s really only one things you have to understand about journalism in America… that it has nothing to do with journalism.
The press is the real “party” we have to defeat.

drunyan8315 on November 15, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Jack Thompson over at Human Events seems pretty sure that Pawlenty was one of the snipers.

meltenn on November 15, 2008 at 7:22 PM