The gold in them thar … crystals
posted at 8:35 am on November 13, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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We already know that Alaska has vast energy reserves of oil and natural gas locked away in places that Congress dares not go — like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, for instance. They also have a lot of snow and ice, and as it turns out, they have energy reserves there as well. Crystals known as hydrates buried in the permafrost of the North Slope may contain enough energy to heat 100 million homes for a decade, if extracted properly:
Frozen crystals packed with concentrated natural gas and buried 2,000 feet below the permafrost on Alaska’s North Slope could become the next major domestic energy source, according to an assessment released Wednesday by the U.S. Geological Survey.
The study finds that in the North Slope, frozen methane-and-water crystals known as hydrates contain as much as 85.4 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas. That’s enough to heat 100 million homes for as long as 10 years, Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne said.
New research into how to extract those resources has moved the possibility of recovering the usable energy from the realm of “science and speculation” to that of the “actual and useful,” Kempthorne said Wednesday.
Globally, “hydrates have more potential for energy than all other fossil fuels combined,” he said. “This can be a paradigm shift.”
If the hydrates can be extracted, it could provide another boom for Alaska’s energy industry. The pending natural-gas pipeline could transport the output from the hydrates just as it would for conventional natural gas. In fact, Alaska may take a back seat to the Gulf of Mexico, which also has a large amount of hydrates in cold-water regions and which already has natural-gas infrastructure to transport the final product.
Hydrates aren’t quite ready yet, however. The government has partnered with oil companies to develop extraction processes, but they have yet to test them. Researchers have to manufacture synthetic hydrates for testing in order to avoid the highly potent natural hydrates, which are by volume 164 times as powerful as natural gas. Producers in Alaska would prefer to go after conventional natural-gas deposits first, and environmentalists worry about the effect of mining on the permafrost as well as the release of methane (a greenhouse gas) into the atmosphere.
This seems to be very similar to oil shale in the natural-gas context. We know that we have decades of energy potential, locked into formations that we can’t quite access and which will be costlier than resources already at hand. It’s worth researching, but we can afford to go slow — as long as we can continue to access the conventional deposits we know exist already.
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I’m sure the Dems are right now coming up with a way to block any exploration or usage of this resource.
brak on November 13, 2008 at 8:41 AM
There may be gold in them there crystals, but are there caribou on that there snow?
SlimyBill on November 13, 2008 at 8:42 AM
Don’t caribou eat snow? Tube, meet butt.
marklmail on November 13, 2008 at 8:45 AM
The only thing the dems want to nine is our wallets!
grapeknutz on November 13, 2008 at 8:46 AM
errr mine!!
grapeknutz on November 13, 2008 at 8:47 AM
But will Al Gore allows this?
goldeagle11 on November 13, 2008 at 8:51 AM
Sorry to steal this, but, cheap, unlimited energy resources are not good for Michelle’s kids!
marklmail on November 13, 2008 at 8:51 AM
Russia and Japan have been looking at hydrates for a long time. Hydrates exist in limited areas in shallow sediments of the offshore gulf of mexico where the shelf drops off quickly – but are currently subeconomic to extract there (I’m a gelogist doing oil exploration in the GOM). The soon coming higher energy prices will fuel hydrate exploration, just like oil shales, coal bed methane, and other resource plays.
audiotom on November 13, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Obama, Pelosi and Reid don’t want us to be energy independent! Remember, Obama wants the coal mines to go under (no pun intended) and said that he was not sorry about the price of fuel, only that the rise in price should have been more gradual.
beththebaker on November 13, 2008 at 8:54 AM
I wonder when “buyers remorse” will kick in?
grapeknutz on November 13, 2008 at 8:56 AM
They have a new gold mine as well. Enviromentalists tried to shut it down but Palin crushed them.
Alaska is gonna be the only state making money in this Obama term.
lodge on November 13, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Dilithium crystals?
Dan Collins on November 13, 2008 at 8:57 AM
I couldn’t help but think of Mr. Biggums when I saw that flaming rock in the post photo.
forest on November 13, 2008 at 8:58 AM
To tie this in with the mandatory “volunteer” service, this will be an excellent place for those who are, ah, less than enthusiastic about community service to serve their time. Being in a cold, isolated area will give them a chance to reflect upon their selfishness. And they’ll be helping out their country by working for the United Socialist States of America Oil Company (formerly Exxon-Mobile, etc.)
And no, there is no comparison to the old Soviet Gulags. Those were punishment camps for political prisoners. This will be a chance at reflection, reeducation and rehabilitation while serving the State.
See the difference? Well maybe squint a little harder and hold it sideways.
rbj on November 13, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Millions of high paying jobs at the fingertips of this nation in energy production and exploration that could propel us into a new industrial revolution and we are shackled by “leadership” that intends to put us back into the stone ages.
heavy sigh…..
Rovin on November 13, 2008 at 9:00 AM
Crystal? Methane? Energy?
What could possibly be bad about this?
coldwarrior on November 13, 2008 at 9:02 AM
Methane clathrates are stable on earth at low temperatures AND high pressures and are found at depth in many places. It is encouraging to have found these deposits on land, but these would be a major source of offshore methane as well. Anyone seen any research or recent developments that would make this profitable as well?
Marine_Bio on November 13, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Seward’s Folly continues to prove far less foolish than at first glance.
Harpazo on November 13, 2008 at 9:06 AM
This can’t turn out good.
thomasaur on November 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM
The Canadians have been on this for quite a while.
Laddy on November 13, 2008 at 9:10 AM
CrystalMethEnergy
This can’t turn out good.
thomasaur on November 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Been there done that.
AMartinez on November 13, 2008 at 9:11 AM
Me too. They’ll block not only exploration, but also all R&D funding that might advance it.
petefrt on November 13, 2008 at 9:12 AM
This is not a renewable energy source, therefore should not be mined…the crystals are an important part of the delicate tundra, and any attempt to remove them will destroy this rare and special environment…in the chain of live the crystals are in integral part, remove it and an unstoppable chain of events will happen,threatening every species in the delicate arctic wilderness…the permafrost is part of a delicate tundra balance of nature, polar bears, seals, wolves, caribou, moose, all are dependent upon this balance…their is no study which shows the use of hydrates does not contribute to man’s continuing destruction of earth…Alaska has already raped mother earth of their resources, now they want to go back and kill her…
I am sure there are more from the left, this will help them prepare.
Oh, this will give energy companies more obscene profits…almost forgot their latest mantra.
Idiots, stupid, foolish, shortsighted,idiots…strangle America, so they can run in the streets and protest.
right2bright on November 13, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Sorry. This stuff is just to “big businessy.” No, we want cars with little windmills attached to their roofs and solar panels powering our airplanes. And… uh… we’d like flying unicorns to replace taxi cabs.
If The One says it, then it shall be!
Sugar Land on November 13, 2008 at 9:14 AM
I’m thinking more like frozen dinosaur fart…
factoid on November 13, 2008 at 9:15 AM
High energy prices mean less energy use. That’s the Dem agenda.
jgapinoy on November 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM
The break even point for oil shale is $84/bbl.
Anyone look at ExxonMobil’s balance sheet rather than rely on the various news services, online forums?
Profits were made overseas, and they paid twice as much taxes as their profits.
I seriously doubt that any individual would call this a good living if they were to invest, produce and make such a similar slime return on their efforts.
Kermit on November 13, 2008 at 9:20 AM
Tap Joe Biden’s hot air. It’s cheaper and he has an unlimited supply.
Mr_Magoo on November 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM
The Dems will never allow this idea to come to fruition. They prefer we stay obliged to the Saudis.
We need to conserve!! ;)
becki51758 on November 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Therein lies the reason the Obama administration will never pursue this source of energy.
Kafir on November 13, 2008 at 9:35 AM
On the bright side, we’ll get to see Sarah every day.
hoosiermama on November 13, 2008 at 9:40 AM
I know a bit about methane hydrate. From what we know over the past several years to recently it seems that the United States hold the largest ever vast reserves of offshore methane hydrate. It is just unreal. We just ooze with these natural resources in oil, gas, and methane hydrate. It is just absolutely astounding and ironic that we’re not allowed to tap into these energy sources.
Japan is already exploring ways to mine these things since being under water at such depths require a bit of tricky bit of work.
Full production out of methane hydrate is probably 10 to 15 years away. Similar to that of oil shale.
Learn more here:
Kokonut on November 13, 2008 at 9:46 AM
This is key and illustrates a discontinuity in the liberal thought process – if there even is such a thing. If a transition to alternative energy sources is ever to be made, it will be accomplished largely by existing energy developers (aka Big Oil) because they have the know-how and also the capital for R&D. But when they are forced to bend over and take a profit spanking in the new Obamaland, they will have less capital and little incentive to invest further.
whitetop on November 13, 2008 at 9:46 AM
Also, go to the DOE page that has more details on methane hydrate.
In other words, worldwide estimates has 400 million times more cubic feet of natural gas in methane hydrate than the proven natural gas reserves.
Utterly mind boggling.
Fascinating stuff.
Kokonut on November 13, 2008 at 9:52 AM
Obama will put Alaska on eBay.
RushBaby on November 13, 2008 at 9:52 AM
Sorry too late.
Ice is now a protected state. Polar bears use it.
Keep looking.
patrick neid on November 13, 2008 at 9:54 AM
“as long as we can continue to access the conventional deposits we know exist already.”
Newly elected regime to make sure we don’t access any deposits existing or otherwise rather buy our energy sources from the Mooslims that seek our destruction.
We must preserve our pristine wilderness and Grand Canyon like National Mosquito Refuge.
John Mccain will be there to help in that endeavor!
dhunter on November 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM
+1
hoosiermama on November 13, 2008 at 10:13 AM
And yet there are some who still doubt that God loves the U.S.A. and wants us to be prosperous and spread The American Way around the globe.
pseudonominus on November 13, 2008 at 10:22 AM
I’m sure they are too.
CP on November 13, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Um, as an Environmental Scientist, I’d advise against harvesting clathrates. They are currently a poorly understood but undeniabley crucial link in the Global Carbon Cycle. They’re unstable by definition, and getting to them would require plowing up most of the northern latitudes.
Instead of drilling for Natural Gas, you’re proposing strip mining.
The process would be very inefficent, so most of the clathrates exposed/harvested would sublimate and go into the atmosphere. Now, I know that I’ll catch a lot of uninformed flack for raising climate change here (sadly, it’s been poisoned by politics), but consider this too. Acidification of the world’s oceans is a very real consequence of carbon output and it could be devestating to the global ecosystem.
Techie on November 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Check out the small nuclear reactor from Hyperion Power Generation.
Their reactor is wa-away safe, about 1.5 meters in diameter and 3 meters high. It is buried for 8-10 years while it can power 20,000 houses (25 MWe) for about $25 million each. When it needs to be refueled, the module is replaced and the used on returned to the factory for processing.
This can power resource recovery in very remote locations for a fraction of the cost of natural gas.
Hyperion uses technology developed at Los Alamos National Lab for about 15 years, and is commercializing technology owned by US taxpayers.
Right_of_Attila on November 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Now, those small reactors are the way to go.
I’d like a grid that’s 75% nuclear, 15% Hydro, 10% Other (Geothermal, Solar, Wind, Tidal)
Techie on November 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM
meant to say it’s about 100 million times more natural gas in methane hydrate than or current natural gas estimate…not 400 million
Kokonut on November 13, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Alaska means Sarah Palin. Energy source in Alaska means Sarah Palin. Democrats and Republican critics of Sarah Palin have no rest.
Have there been a VP candidate in recent presidential election that’s still in the news almost two weeks after election? Can’t remember one.
atemely on November 13, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Europe and US natural resources:
Europe currently has a huge problem with massive immigration of Muslims. The majority of Europeans want this immigration to stop but the Arab countries demand that Europe keep accepting their excess population in exchange for oil. The Europeans should be pressing the US ini expanding its drilling for oil, nat gas, and for coal gasification so the EU can tell the Muslims to get bent and keep their jihadis at home.
Our politicians are incapable of strategic thinking.
DerKrieger on November 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM
When oil and natural gas prices start going up again what will the Democrats do to prevent the poor from being hit hard? Naturally they will impose additional taxes on the “rich” (middle class) and redistribute the money to the poor to be used to offset higher energy bills.
Common sense would dictate that we increase our energy supply but the Dems long ago cast that aside in favor of eco-Marxism.
DerKrieger on November 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Whitetop, you beat me to it. This mentality is part of the problem. It is easy to be against big _______ (fill in the blank) oil, computers, fast food, etc. but is big oil and the private sector that will solve this problem.
dentalque on November 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM
I’ve got your Methane RIGHT HERE!
Doppleganker on November 13, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Ed, wrong.
BLM and the State of Alaska have opened this up as a permited item and Unit and HAVE tried to go for Methane Hydrate or what is called Methane Clathrates.
Here is how it went.
1. They got a special drilling rig and converted it with a steam fitting … to melt the “permafrost” which holds the hudrate.
2. Figuring out HOW long they would be able to do this… via pressure and tempurature.
3. The resulting factors went into a special vacuum that helpo the gas.
4. Colder steam was injected back into the Formation to form ice crystals and POSSIBLY collect more Methane in the future (a type of reusable, we may never know) but to also stabalize the formation.
Methane in most colder States and areas of the world, you only have to drill to 3500 feet or less depending.
This was a scientific and starter type. But if it works… imagine the possibilities.
Now the next step is getting the Methane off the Sea Floor.
Wiki actually has a good site for this…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate
USGS is starting a “frontiering project”…
http://marine.usgs.gov/fact-sheets/gas-hydrates/title.html
with DOE…
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/oilgas/hydrates/index.html
and N.O.A.A.
fe.doe.gov/…/publications/methane_hydrates/mh_interagency_plan.pdf
I was very involved with this a while back. Enjoy the read… and please keep in mind that this is in the infancy stages. What to do next on via the receiving portion and how to harness it better in the future is the key.
upinak on November 13, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Also… I forgot to mention. When the ice crystal is melted with the methane … it expands at incredible rates. That is the tricky part of “mining” because you can’t mine for it.
Pressurization and tempurature controls are very tricky… to high.. you are going to have a blow out. To little and nothing but a bubble will come up and leak out.
upinak on November 13, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Hee hee! I thought it myself.
Again, another potential resource about to be blocked from developing. But I think the times they are a changin’.
People are soon going to get real sick of sky rocketing energy prices.
Those DC latte sippers are gonna start wailing about it when their lattes go up to $10 a piece. Then we’ll get ‘er done.
Badger40 on November 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Environmental Scientist? Uninformed? Interesting choice of words when you don’t seem to understand HOW they are going to extract the gas.
Romeo13 on November 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Hey leave the Al Gore clone alone.
He doesn’t know and I doubt he has asked.
But I do believe in Climate change (not the Al Gore edition) … people need to learn that climate changes. Wow, what a concept huh!
upinak on November 13, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Palin should be:
Governor of Alaska under the Democrats
Secretary of Energy under the Republicans
Not President
Tzetzes on November 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Crystal Meth-ane…awesome.
Alaska, the land of plenty.
Wyznowski on November 13, 2008 at 12:31 PM
The Republicans were reight after all, it is better to create new wealth than tax the hell out of it…..?
DL13 on November 13, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Its interesting to see this level of interest in something we should already be usuing in our cars. CNG, burns more effeciently, less polluting, and we dont have to ask countries who hate us to sell it to us.
In Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other areas, people without even a highschool education are converting vehicles to run on readily available CNG, and/or methane, and very little cost. The EPA has made it nearly impossible to make the conversions a reality here in the most modern country on earth, by omposing restrictions on the installation of such systems on vehicles, claiming some utter bullshit about how CNG can actually produce more damaging chemicles into the atmosphere, bla bla bla…bullshit to justify their own existance. This is clearly a case of Government for the sake of government, and it sucks. I have been send countless emails to my congressmen and senators to no avail, all I get is BS.
Current prices for the one gallon equivelant (gasoline) of CNG, range from 66 cents in some parts of the country, here in Indiana It’s about 1.00.
CNG also has the equivelant of 120 octane, so your vehicle will get better mileage, and go faster.(yes thats important to me)
So, what we need here is less government, a bunch of conversion kits, some tax incentives, burn down the EPA, and lets make some money on this idea….
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on November 13, 2008 at 1:26 PM
That is what they were mining on that Ice Road Truckers show.
Claire on November 13, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Interesting stuff, I emailed my contact at the American Petroleum Institute to find out more. I have been on a couple blogger calls with them and this has not come up and this is the first I have heard of it. It fits in well with Picken’s plan though I prefer nuclear to wind power
goat on November 13, 2008 at 9:33 PM
No it wasn’t.
upinak on November 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM
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