Palin: If Obama governs with the “greatness” of which he’s capable, we’ll be fine
posted at 1:55 pm on November 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A choice bit from her speech to the RGA this morning; skip ahead to 3:18, or to 9:00 for an extended passage on the young girls she tried to inspire on the trail and the visibility she’s brought to special needs families. She’s in the minority among conservatives, incidentally, in thinking The One can be a good president — but just barely. Just like our readership is in the minority in wanting her to become a national political figure.
Will she run for Senate anyway? Frum makes the case that she almost has to.
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She’s pretty funny – maybe she should have done the Leno show.
Vashta.Nerada on November 13, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Watching him fail miserably would be more rewarding
anniekc on November 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Interesting, that in a republican/libertarian state, she became popular by spreading the wealth (of the oil companies) around. Right?
lorien1973 on November 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM
I’d like her a lot more if she’d bone up on current events, national issues, threats to the nation, economy. It’s time for some concise, articulate responses. No more wandering all over the map.
Get her a good communication coach.
eaglesdontflock on November 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM
LOL
abinitioadinfinitum on November 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Given that he’s only shown us that he’s capable of skyrocketing ambition and shameless self-promotion, I’m not quite clear what exactly she’s talking about here.
It’s good to be optimistic, but this is like saying that maybe those magic beans we traded for the cow, will grow into a beanstalk.
Probably not gonna happen.
NoDonkey on November 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM
My own favorite part on what’s changed in the last year: “I had a baby. I did some traveling. I very briefly expanded my wardrobe. I made some speeches, I met some VIPs, including those who really impact society, like Tina Fey.”
meltenn on November 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Listen, thats shows REAL class.
Amadeus on November 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
if frum says something. You do the opposite. David Frum is a true cancer to the republican party. Honestly this guy takes credit for being a bush speech writer?? Bush was one of the WORST speech giver’s of all-time.
ousoonerfan15 on November 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
I think she’s just trying to prevent the panic and massive suicides that are pending due to the new administration.
Sponge on November 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
If I didn’t know better, I’d say you’re wishing bad times on this great nation.
benny shakar on November 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
That’s deceptive. Most people probably think Obama could be a good President. We just find the concept extremely unlikely.
TheUnrepentantGeek on November 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I guess we arent “Palin’d out”. And 83% favorables among Republicans and dead even among all Americans, I will take that all day to solidify a base and begin to go after Indies.
Nice try
broker1 on November 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Did she really say that?? lol
keep the change on November 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Whether you can call it that depends on whether it was the oil companies’ money or not. There may have been some land leasing deal with the state in place, or something – sort of like the Indian tribes do with companies who operate on reservation land.
capitalist piglet on November 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Palin is raising expectations for Obama and making herself a less divisive figure. VERY SMART!
D0WNT0WN on November 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Obama has two models for a Democratic president in the last 40 years – Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Who was viewed as a success? Who was viewed as a failure? Who was reelected? Who wasn’t?
I continue to have a slim hope that Obama’s desire for continued political power will cause him to govern more like Clinton than Carter, despite Obama’s profound leftist tendencies. (Whether he actually has the administrative talent to implement good policies, assuming he wants to, is unfortunately a different issue.)
In any case, I think that Palin is proposing the right approach – oppose Obama over what he actually proposes and actually does, rather than on speculation regarding what he might do. Much better political strategy.
Realist on November 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
benny shakar on November 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Nah, Obama can be a political failure (remember HillaryCare back in the ’90s?) without harming the country.
innominatus on November 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
She is smart to put him on the pedestal. Raise his expectations, build him up, nothing wrong with that.
We should all say we expect great things from Obama, we expect him to live up to his promises, what he has campaigned on, and if he balances the budget, gets us out of all wars, decreases our energy use, and gives us clean energy, lowers our cost of living, gives us free health care, heal the sick and infirmed, lower our taxes, build our economy, encourage new business…then good for him, he should be president…but if he doesn’t, he has fallen far short of his promises, and he is a failure.
So Obama, I too say you can and should do all that you promised…and anything short and you are a just another politcal charlatan.
right2bright on November 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Indeed, the oil that the oil companies process, etc. is the Alaskan people’s. It’s all above board.
Abby Adams on November 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM
That was my first thought too. But, like Sarah Palin, i have a son in Iraq. Failure in Iraq would put my son in danger.
Instead, lets hope Obama adopts conservatve principles and succeeds.
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM
GEE WHERE WOULD WE HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Frum is talking nonsense. This oil price drop is due mainly to the dollar rally which is from this perceived flight to safety, devleraging and meeting margin calls – which won’t last. Once all Bernanke’s crazy money printing hits the system the dollar is going to drop and oil will go to $200.
The end result is that only those states producing something that can be exported or is essential will maintain a good economy as consumer spending takes a massive hit.
lodge on November 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
People need to be reminded that elections have consequences. It is not wishing bad times when you are predicting them based on idiotic policy.
Vashta.Nerada on November 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
I think that’s her way of twisting the knife. The MSM and all the followers says he’s great – who are we to say otherwise? She already knows the answer to the question of “Will Obama be a great president?” We all do too.
Rightwaywin on November 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
I believe in AK the wealth (oil) is owned by the people. I think their constitution calls for the rebate to the people from the oil sales. That was part of AK’s admission to the Union. They had to have it in their constitution that the oil wealth would be spread so that they would not be a drain on Fed resources. She mentioned something about that to Greta. The fact that oil prices have been way up has helped their economy. It will be interesting to see how things go with oil prices dropping. Maybe that’s in the back of her mind as she considers the Senate.
BrianBoru on November 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Mr. Obama…………
………………. all this and he hasn’t even taken the Oath of Office.
No, I don’t think he will be such a good President of the United States.
Seven Percent Solution on November 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Bad times are needed to get the electorate to dump Dear Leader before the insanity of what he represents gets a foothold. Bad times got rid of Carter and brought us Reagan. Right now bad times are the only thing that could save the Republic from an electorate willing to surrender to a dangerous socialist if only he helps them pay their mortgage.
keep the change on November 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Reports of shots fired at one of Virginia Tech’s dorms, http://www.vt.edu
Medicated on November 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Follow you pwn instincts Gov. Palin – don’t listen to anyone outside those whose counsel you have sought up till now.
A leader is not led to their future – they pave their own way.
Follow your own instincts.
jake-the-goose on November 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
I’m with you but if you read Rules for Radicals, that’s highly unlikely.
Rightwaywin on November 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM
The GOP needs to rebuild. Let Obama stand or fall on his own programs we need to fix what is broken in our party rather than worry about what Obama is or isnt doing.
We cant be the anti Obama party.
William Amos on November 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM
I’d be happy if she did a bit more study and sounded like she knew what she was talking about instead of all the ‘oh golly you betcha’ BS.
Ares on November 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Probably. She’s also trying to find a small seed of hope in the sea of “Hope & Change”. I found myself praying for the same things out of Obama.
I am extremely skeptical this will pan out. I expect crazy disaster from this leftist, but one has to try & hope for the best. I will not wish disaster upon my beloved country.
Badger40 on November 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
uh just listen to her talk about energy policy
ousoonerfan15 on November 13, 2008 at 2:12 PM
The libs/leftists/media all fear her. No wonder she is a polarizing figure. She is the anti-Obama?
Princeps on November 13, 2008 at 2:13 PM
9 pt swing in favorab;le rating since the election. another epic fail of the McCain campaign. Keeping Gov Palin from the MSM kept her favorables depressed.
They should have let her free.
Also if 73% of dems don’t like her we are doing something right. All she needs to do is swing some of the independents
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Here is the relevant provision I think. Art.9 sec. 15.
The 2008 dividend is $3,269.00.
BrianBoru on November 13, 2008 at 2:13 PM
LMAO, she’s really building him up
“the grace and greatness of which I know he’s capable…the office of Washington and Lincoln”
she called the bailouts opium- OPM – other people’s money
lodge on November 13, 2008 at 2:14 PM
The federal governmenbt purchased Alaska from Russia – so the gov’t owned all the land (and still owns most of it – very common in western states). When Alaska became a state the mineral rights were given to the Alaskan people so the state would be self-sufficient. Thy sell those rights to oil companies and receive a royalty in return.
This has been the cause of a lot of coruption in the state. One of Palin’s success stories has been to reform this proces and clean up the corruption.
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Thank you Abby, Brian, and anybody else who explained the oil revenues issue – I don’t want to see Governor Palin accused of something she didn’t do, and I was almost certain there was a legitimate deal in place between the state and the industry, so I appreciate the confirmation of that.
capitalist piglet on November 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Oh, heavens… is it too freaking much to expect the trolls to give up that tired old ’spread the(oil) wealth’ thang ??
Apparently so.
They’ll NEVER understand how it works !
(can always expect about 10+ trolls under any Palin headline.. hehehe.. sure predictable, you guys)
pambi on November 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
That right there is a very shiny number.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
I think she’s just trying to prevent the panic and massive suicides that are pending due to the new administration.
Sponge on November 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Conservatives don’t do that, we might panic a bit but then we prepare and dig-in. Suicide? That’s for liberal weenie-burgers who can’t handle reality.
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
David Frum —- yeah, there’s a winner for ya. You betcha.
BigD on November 13, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Thank you!
capitalist piglet on November 13, 2008 at 2:17 PM
How many eligible voters self id as dem’s? Isn’t somwhere in the 30-35% range?
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Conservatives don’t do that, we might panic a bit but then we prepare and dig-in. Suicide? That’s for liberal weenie-burgers who can’t handle reality.
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
We buy guns and prepare.
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Yep. Same reason it’s always the Liberals who are moaning “If Conservative-X gets elected I’m gonna move to Canada/Mexico/Europe/Australia/unmapped desert island!!1!1!!one!”
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
She didn’t get the money from taxing oil companies. She got the money by raising the lease price on the oil fields that Alaska owns and leases to the oil companies. She did nothing differently than what a private landowner would do in the same circumstance. And yes, that’s a meaningful distinction.
On a related point, it shows great class for Palin to come out and say that Obama has the capability to be a great President. The reality is that Obama will NOT be a great President, because he’s way too much of a commie. But to hope for the best is what she should be doing.
Outlander on November 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
What is wrong with HA pointing out the silly crap now? Why not call attention to the following passages:
1:51 on W
3:00 What the GOP’s platform SHOULD be
I’m sure there’s more good stuff, don’t have time to listen to the whole thing…and just WTF is wrong with what she said about Obama? Don’t we all WANT him to do well and fulfill his promises of greatness? I can’t stand Obama, I think he’s an empty suit and a marxist, but I agree with Palin that I want him to do well.
JustTruth101 on November 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Not until she gets a coaching and gets some advisors who can really hack it and have a pulse on what’s happening and what people think… she seems too insular, obtuse, and running off of sentiment… without a David Axelrodish figure she’s going nowhere but staying in Alaska…
ninjapirate on November 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM
You can’t make lipstick out of crayons.
Grow Fins on November 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
BTW, you can say that about the entire GOP…
ninjapirate on November 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
This being positive and patriotic thing Conservatives are doing around Obama’s win really bugs.
Stick to your guns, be sincere, and save America by speaking the truth not putting on a false face front. Palin is a class act, but we’re not politicians, and I see the same attitude on conservative blogs trying to keep Obama from becoming as hated as Bush. Well Obama is adopting radical politics from both side of the fence (wealth redistribution on one side, diminishing separation of church and state on the other side, etc.) and he’s earning the ill will. Let it fly.
Obamalama Deprogrammer on November 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Gallup says
83% of Rep like her
13% don’t
75% of dems don’t
21% do
44% of ind like her
48% don’t
Survey Methods
Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,010 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Nov. 7-9, 2008. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.
Interviews are conducted with respondents on landline telephones (for respondents with a landline telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell phone only).
In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
No mention of break down to % from each group interesting.
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
I’d be happy if she did a bit more study and sounded like she knew what she was talking about instead of all the ‘oh golly you betcha’ BS.
Ares on November 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
I’m with ya, man, if politicians talk the way people from their own area actually do, it’s a dead giveaway that they are morons.
I far prefer the sonorous, brain-melting, coma-inducing tenor of a guy like JFKerry, or the hip urban patois of The Grand Messiah Obarfa: “Hey wassup Deeetroyt!”
You betchas and oh gollys are indicative of flyover inbred hickness….we don’t have the sauve sophistication of the Manhattan elites. Sorry about that.
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Bad times are inevitable under Obama’s proposals: raising the capital gains tax, removing tax protections on 401Ks and destroying an entire investor class, creating worthless WPA-like makework programs and do-nothing agencies, destroying the coal and auto industries for the sake of spurious, Greenpeace-inspired science, gutting 25% from the military and diverting half of remaining defense funding to a nebulously described ‘Civilian Defense Force’ whose implications are creepy beyond measure, and so on. But here’s the thing: the mainstream media wasn’t just in the Obama tank for the election cycle. They’re in it for the long haul. The MSM is committed. All criticisms of the Obama Administration will be obscured, ignored, omitted, or deflected. Those making the criticisms will be shouted down and shut down, their reputations ruined, and ultimately scapegoated for whatever Obama policy failures that do somehow emerge into public view.
troyriser_gopftw on November 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
O/T: Rush Limbaugh’s web site is “Not Found”.
This seems very odd
Right_of_Attila on November 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Flyoverist.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Quite frankly, the U.S. Senate is nothing but a conference room full of non-accountable lawyers with oversized senses of self-importance. A place for the Joe Bidens of this world.
Sarah Palin would be like a fish out of water. She is a leader, not a pontificator.
BigD on November 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM
nice. Love the put down.
I personally think that those that think that Palin is stupid or doesn’t understand national issues are themselves idiots. Palin usally says more in one stentence than Obama says in 10
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Feel victimized much? You betcha!
Grow Fins on November 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Holy cow, you’re right. Server glitch maybe?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Sarcasm is lost in the Black Lagoon, it seems.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:27 PM
She could say Oh Golly all she wants, if she could just answer one question on forgiegn policy and not sound like a moron.
Therefore she is not allowed to say “Oh Golly”
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 2:27 PM
We buy guns and prepare.
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM
YES WE
CANDO!*coos lovingly to the new Bushmaster Carbon 15 M4 laying in my lap*
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Patience. Believe me, I understand, but be patient, he hasn’t event taken office yet.
He will screw up. We will not be restrained. We just will not be unjustified in our complaints. We will have proof for why he will be more hated than Bush.
That is the difference. That is why there is a tone of restraint right now.
Marine_Bio on November 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Bishop, Grue, pambi, outlander, unseen -
One of you guys go find Billy Goat Gruff. The Trolls are
out from under the bridge!
…And it’s not even sundown.
kingsjester on November 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Maybe she means it in the way that all Americans (or heck, all humans) are capable of greatness.
Okay, probably not. But I don’t see any evidence that Barry has a leg up on this over anyone else.
Count to 10 on November 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM
He hasn’t done anything wrong yet. It’s foolish to criticise him before he takes office. The media wouldnt like it.
Be gracious, wait until he slips up and the media has doubts about him, and then criticise.
lodge on November 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Therefore she is not allowed to say “Oh Golly”
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 2:27 PM
When you ask the same of Odummy, you can throw stones, until then I’ll take an occasional “oh golly” over “that’s above my paygrade.”
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM
David Frum’s claim to fame is he took the credit for inventing the phrase “axis of evil”.
The other Bushies deny that. But even if true it’s a pretty small thing to hang your hat on. I’ve read his book and it advises the party to abandon social issues and adopt Clintonomics.
Leaving aside the ethics of abandoning the unborn and the elderly to a holocaust of unprecedented proportions, voters will say (and have said) “why not just vote democratic?”
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM
kingsjester on November 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM
This place has become troll-infested.
BigD on November 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM
She could say Oh Golly all she wants, if she could just answer one question on forgiegn policy and not sound like a moron.
Therefore she is not allowed to say “Oh Golly”
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 2:27 PM
you must have missed her answer to Gibson on Russian agression. Or the interview on energy independence IRt to Chevez and the middle east. Or her answer about dafur.
stop getting you news from SNL
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM
You are correct,(as usual) but we must be the anti- socialist/marxist party.
beththebaker on November 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Wholeheartedly agree with that one, particularly this thread.
Marine_Bio on November 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Wow, how anyone could watch that whole speech and be critical is beyond me. She obviously still has a good speechwriter and she can deliver a speech without a teleprompter.
If Bill Clinton could come out of jerkwater Arkansas and get elected President, Sarah Palin certainly can do it out of Alaska. She needs to stay put and not go to the Senate. If anyone can beat Barack Obama in 2012, it will have to be an outsider. We will never beat him with another Senator.
rockmom on November 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Haven’t exactly been paying attention hve you?
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Anyone know a good exterminator? I don’t eat troll – too gummy.
*lurks*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
He was a speechwriterl it was his job to invent phrases. Frum’s problem was that he mistook inventing the phrase for inventing the policy. He started mouthing off about how great he was and they canned him.
BigD on November 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM
kingsjester on November 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM
I’m just a poor Bishop trying to keep my flock together, and considering the ineptitude of the trolls infesting HA over the years, I’ve come to enjoy their presence for comedic value.
I leave the true troll-slaughtering to the likes of ManlyRash and Sven, though I haven’t heard from either since the election.
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Right on, Sarah…
DL13 on November 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM
kingsjester on November 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM
This place has become troll-infested.
BigD on November 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM
i’m just wondering what happens when Obama’s campaign stops paying them
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Sarah’s being Gracious. It’s honeymoon period for the one so why stoke the fire now when you can wait and let him and his croonies f$$k it up in a year or so?
Dritanian on November 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Even with a light sautee in extra virgin olive oil and a dash of salt?
Marine_Bio on November 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Manly can be contacted by Email but afraid I can’t do much about Sven.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM
We cant be the anti Obama party.
William Amos on November 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Doesn’t mean we can’t include him in the festivities.
I plan on raking the man over the coals for every single misstep, no matter how trivial.
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:35 PM
… Okay, I don’t eat raw troll.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:35 PM
If Bill Clinton could come out of jerkwater Arkansas and get elected President, Sarah Palin certainly can do it out of Alaska. She needs to stay put and not go to the Senate. If anyone can beat Barack Obama in 2012, it will have to be an outsider. We will never beat him with another Senator.
rockmom on November 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Alaska with its resources could help her with international visits. No would be a good time for Gov Palin to forM AN TRADE COMMISSION and invite world leaders to the table.
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:35 PM
What happened to the Rash? He no post no mo’?
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:35 PM
SO THAT’S why they’re still asking for money~!!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM
True, but by all accounts he also lied about inventing the phrase. This shows that he’s just a self-promoter in the worst sense.
kcewa on November 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Cute,
She still talked around the issues. Granted she got a little better as time progressed, but she sure as hell wasnt ready.
Maybe in 4. But she was not a positive influence on the ticket this time.
Also, she sounds fine on FP, so long as she can tie it to energy, which she is very very good at.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Those who didn’t understand what she said will never get their fingers outta their ears… to their discrace and detriment.
Common graciousness is WAAAAY above their pay grade, anyway.
OY.
pambi on November 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM
You have to soak them in buttermilk, like moonbats, to tenderize them.
HornetSting on November 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM
and a dash of salt?
Sea salt? I’m really into sea salt lately, don’t know why.
Bishop on November 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
“Republicans abolish the wall between church and state” is a liberal fairy tail. Admittedly, I believed it for a long time, but the truth is that it is the Democrats trying to break down that wall, just from the government side.
Actually, if you see a Democrat accusing Republicans of something, it is a good bet that the Democrats are already doing it.
Count to 10 on November 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
We cant be the anti Obama party.
William Amos on November 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Says who. We as a party can introduce positive policies that are 180% different from Obama’s We can be anti-obama and be pro other things. Unlike McCain we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
unseen on November 13, 2008 at 2:38 PM
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