Video: Hey, who’s up for a “Bill Donohue and atheists yell at each other” clip?
posted at 7:45 pm on November 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
What a segment this would have been if only they’d had me on as the atheist rep. As it is, you can almost hear the gears turning in the mind of the Fox person who booked it: “How can we fill four minutes of airtime with the maximum red-meat freak show quotient possible? Hey, I know.”
Exit question: What’s the money line? The invocation of Jeffrey Dahmer as an example of individualist morality? The ominous claim that nonbelievers are “sticking their nose in where they don’t belong”? Or the perpetual admonition about how lucky the godless are that Judeo-Christian culture tolerates their presence, with all the hints that that conveys?
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Oh, Allah, why do you do these things?
AbaddonsReign on November 12, 2008 at 7:47 PM
gee, sorry to double post, but this is important. Said this earlier on another thread:
Chewy the Lab on November 12, 2008 at 7:50 PM
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/11/sarah-palin-on-larry-king-tonight.html
Dr Evil on November 12, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Humanists? Isn’t that the cult that George Costanza made up when he didn’t want to buy Christmas Gifts?
lorien1973 on November 12, 2008 at 7:52 PM
It seems like everyone named Donohue is a nutcase.
SoulGlo on November 12, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Don’t you wonder, Allah, why these atheist groups don’t say “why believe in allah? He doesn’t exist anyways.”
Why is it always christians? Cuz they won’t fight back?
lorien1973 on November 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I’ll pass.
km on November 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I liked him. He went right for the absurd and never let up. It was fantastic. Really.
lorien1973 on November 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM
What’s so hard about keeping Christ in Christmas? Just keep using the name. It already has “Christ” in it.
Problem solved.
manwithblackhat on November 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I believe it was “The Human Fund.” Am I right?
ThePrez on November 12, 2008 at 7:55 PM
ugh…Donohue is really some Catholic spokesman…
I thought he was more laid back than usual here tho.
JetBoy on November 12, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Gotta love ‘ol Billy D – “If they had any guts they’d go for Ramadan and explain it to the Muslims”
benthere5516 on November 12, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Festivus! Come, view my feats of strength.
Fox should have a Jerry Springer type show hosted by Shep. Yeah. They could have atheists v. Christians every third Wednesday.
tuffy on November 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Yeah. That’s it. LOL
lorien1973 on November 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Cause that’s what America is comprised of.
Spirit of 1776 on November 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM
He may be on the extremity of the bell curve but you can’t claim he’s not on the graph…
ninjapirate on November 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM
I don’t quite understand why either side can’t leave the other alone.
Cindy Munford on November 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM
This is in fact a very valid point.
The Left should be very thankful that their oposition are Classically Liberal Christians. Just ask Leftists in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
EscapeVelocity on November 12, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Sons of bitches! Bumpuses!
The Ugly American on November 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM
I’m not Catholic but I love Billy D. I agree with everything he said.
D0WNT0WN on November 12, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Raaaaacist. ;-)
cannonball on November 12, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Not me. FNC used to be different from CNN or MSNBC by their lack of talking heads screaming at each other as part of the formula (not that it didn’t happen sometimes). Donahue used to be put up against rational people.
Personally I think the atheists and other leftists have decided that with their own messiah coming to office and trashing Christians they don’t have to bother with FNC. Soon enough, any public reference to faith will be outlawed.
P.S. Congratulations Allah on your big win with Obama. I hope you won’t take it personally as I loathe you for the next four years for your rabid support of such an unqualified and dangerous man as President.
highhopes on November 12, 2008 at 8:07 PM
God in Czech is “Pan Buh“. (Mr. God)
Pronounced “Pahn Boo“.
(Thought something should be learned here, since there’s nothing new in the video.)
A: Prove it!
B: Disprove it!
(Ad infinitum.)
profitsbeard on November 12, 2008 at 8:07 PM
BobAnthony on November 12, 2008 at 8:08 PM
If you mean washed up talk show host Phil, you are dead on. But Bill Donohue, POLAR OPPOSITE! In fact he is what we Catholics need–a PITBULL CATHOLIC!
BobAnthony on November 12, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Bill Donohue is a very effective spokesman. I like him a lot. You don’t see him cower or go mushy. And he’s correct – Catholics and Christians are easy targets because opposing groups or persons know they won’t get retaliation. Pope Benedict is not going to issue a fatwa against the idiot Madonna no matter how hard she tries.
Marcus on November 12, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Bill Donahue is right on the target.
sheebe on November 12, 2008 at 8:09 PM
I’m a member of the Catholic League. It is so nice to belong to an organization with a leader who actually fights like he does.
Believe me, if it wasn’t for God and HIS rules, there is SO MUCH bad s**t I would love to do to my fellow man (and women). Evil (or the absence of Good) can be really freekin fun.
Anybody who thinks you can make a nation GOOD without God is smoking dope and drinking kool-aid. How long will that last? Maybe for a little while, but the axis of Good / Evil many times does not align with the axis of Pleasure / Pain.
The point of the add is to discourage belief in God, not to do good.
There is only one thing that keeps me in check, and that’s the big ONE, and I don’t mean Obama (who by the way is a religious phenom.).
Donohue is very smart. He knows the Faith, and is not afraid to preach it.
Last Christmas, I was at Wall-Mart after they reinstated the word Christmas back on their websites and stores. I shook almost every employee’s hand in the store wishing them a “Merry Christmas”. They understood.
We Christians only get one day of the year if you don’t count Easter Sunday.
This rift is not only on HotAir, but in the Repub. Party too.
Sapwolf on November 12, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I agree with the sentiment…don’t stick your nose it! I mean, really, atheists don’t believe in Christ as Savior so why don’t they just leave CHRISTmas alone? They are truly hypocrites if they celebrate Christmas, so why run an ad campaign against the entire idea of Christmas? And don’t lecture me about the origins of Christmas being pagan and all. I’ve heard all those arguments. I celebrate Christmas as a Christian…honoring and reflecting on God’s promise fulfilled to a fallen world.
ConMom on November 12, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I thought I had seen god once, but it turned out to be a small patch of brown liquid.
Can’t touch this.
-MC Hammer
mylegsareswollen on November 12, 2008 at 8:13 PM
I love Donohue. He runs hot, sometimes, but he’s usually right about his point. I laugh just thinking about him telling some twerp off.
I’ve got to say that the whole, “Be good, for goodness sake” thing … do we really want to base our entire system of morality on a circular argument with no point? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t … but … uh … I mean, let’s try and be real for a second.
progressoverpeace on November 12, 2008 at 8:13 PM
I’m in the middle–I’m not angry like old Bill, but I love Christmas.
I always prefer to say “Merry Christmas”, but if a Buddhist or a Muslim or an atheist wishes me “Happy Holidays”, I say, “Thank you, you too!”
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:15 PM
You’ll have yellow “liquid” running down your quivering legs on Judgment Day if you don’t repent.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Looooooove Donohue!!
Allah supported Obama? That would explain his snarky “ironic” smug superior comments. Heck, I thought this was a conservative site?
Charles Martel on November 12, 2008 at 8:21 PM
This is NOT a Christian country.
http://jgapinoy.blogspot.com/2007/05/good-ol-usa-not-christian-country.html
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Well,first off,its the birth of Jesus for starters,then
we have Santa Claus,I do love seeing the reindeers and
I love seeing baby mangers,i like saying”Merry Christmas”,
and i like Christmas gifts!
Here up north,in the twin Soo’s we are lucky that there
is no political agenda’s,or any groups going to war on either the religious aspect or Santa Claus!
But,there always is a nut that wants to be heard,and
thankfully he or she is treated as such!!
canopfor on November 12, 2008 at 8:30 PM
FFS….Donohue….spokesman for the christian taliban.
Just give me a five minute amnesty with that POS…..
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 8:32 PM
The fact is, none of is good. Only God (the God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac) is good.
All have sinned and come short of the Glory and perfection of God.
RE: the ad campaign by anti-christains, aka atheists. What is “good?” And who decides?
Without an Absolute Standard of righteousness, the individual does decide on his or her own what is good.
And then Sister Theresa = Jeffery Dahmer. Allahpundit = Usama bin Laden. Greta = Obie. On and on. And I AM the only perfect one.
davidk on November 12, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Whatever groups are apposed to Christmas,
I would like them to take on CAIR,and get
into a Muslim groups faces,and then watch
the fireworks start!!
canopfor on November 12, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Oh, be good for goodness sakes.
davidk on November 12, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Er, no, I didn’t. Try not to believe everything you read.
Allahpundit on November 12, 2008 at 8:39 PM
I don’t agree with a lot of what he says either, but I don’t want to assault him.
You ought to see a counselor about that hatred.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Fatwah envy is so cute. They’d LIKE to issue a fatwah, but they are just sooooo very nice so they won’t. Boy howdy, they WOULD though, if they weren’t so enlightened.
Krydor on November 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Typical atheist blather. Their ads simply could have mentioned that people should be good to each other. But no….they attacked believers. Good God, at least be honest about your motivation.
csdeven on November 12, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Oops,thats opposed,and not apposed,daggit!
canopfor on November 12, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Oh, dear, he read our hearts. He knows for sure how secretly evil we are. Even though Christians as a group do more good than any other group, we are secretly evil.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Hey punk, I am as hot-headed as they come. If I was Taliban, I’d already would have suicided something already for the cause.
I’d like to point out just one instance where Bill O. or the Catholic Church in America stoned a woman for a religious infraction.
Being vocal in your beliefs doesn’t make you Taliban.
Bill would send me in his place and then I’d waste you and then go after your family if he was truly Taliban.
He’s infinitely a better human being than you will ever be maggot.
I’d call you troll but that would be a compliment.
Sapwolf on November 12, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Keep your pop-psychology drivel to yourself.
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Look up the word “metaphor” sometime.
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Bill O’rielly – “And Arrest Barney Frank right?”
Denis Miller “Barney Might want to be arrested.”
LOL!!!
Dritanian on November 12, 2008 at 8:48 PM
My only problem with Christmas is that it falls the day after my birthday. And yes, I celebrate it, to an extent, even though I’m not Christian. Mostly because Saturnalia has fallen out of fashion, but also because it’s one of those days that makes me thankful for my friends and family. Oh, and I have small children that believe in Santa.
I don’t celebrate a whole slew of various religious holidays, and I’m content to leave them to those that do celebrate them. I wish my fellow nonbelievers would do the same. However, I think it would do everyone a heck of a lot of good to hold off on the carols until December – it’s nbarely mid-November, and I am sick of Christmas songs. I have a feeling I’m not the only one.
Anna on November 12, 2008 at 8:49 PM
The atheists are taking the same tack that the homosexual lobby did in the early 1990s under another liberal Democratic president. Just wear down the resistance of the religious majority drip-by-drip; continue to file lawsuits in friendly districts, engage your friends in Hollywood (Bill Maher anyone?) to make fun of religious people and then start to chip away on the legislative front.
The propaganda that religion is only for dumb people will work wonders on impressionable young — especially those with wishy-washy parents (or worse).
This was happening in England in the 1970s and now look. Churches are empty museums and the few frightened Anglicans are in a hopeless rear guard action to stay relevant.
You will not believe how much our society will have changed in 20 years.
johnboy on November 12, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Who are the first to compassionately respond to victims of natural disasters? Who give more sacrificially to the poor than any other group? Who are the most likely to give up successful careers in order to serve the underprivileged full-time? Who are the most likely to adopt one of the world’s 143 million orphans? (I could go on and on) The Christians that LimeyGeek & Krydor love to hate.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Not me.
Jaibones on November 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Every time something of this type gets posted, some Christian feels put upon enough to remind us that they certainly will not be thumping on any Atheists this day. I get a kick out of it. It’s always because you are soooooo verrrrrry enlightened that you would NEVER resort to violence.
The best part is that when some Christian does get violent, you disown him as not a true Christian.
Krydor on November 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Religion has no right to exist. It is subject to the same free-market pressures as everything else.
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Who are the first to compassionately respond to victims of natural disasters?
US Aid and the US Armed forces down there and the Canadian Armed forces up here.
Who give more sacrificially to the poor than any other group?
Taxpayers.
Who are the most likely to give up successful careers in order to serve the underprivileged full-time?
Reference needed.
Who are the most likely to adopt one of the world’s 143 million orphans?
Um, you had better, as you outnumber us 10-1.
(I could go on and on) The Christians that LimeyGeek & Krydor love to hate.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM
The Christians we love to hate tend to write hateful things about Homosexuals and those not affiliated with their religion. You one of those?
Krydor on November 12, 2008 at 8:55 PM
For the record – I don’t hate you. I’m just showing you some tough love.
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Santa will probably put a lump of coal in his stocking….
DL13 on November 12, 2008 at 8:58 PM
I love Bill. I’m not Catholic but Bill puts morons in their place. Thay’re always on defense when they meet up with him.
mikepatr on November 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM
You expressed a desire to assault Bill D. Is that tough love?
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM
People are allowed to think that homosexuality is a sin. And non-religious people are allowed to see homosexuality as a deviation for which the rest of society should not have to change everything to accomadate. That would be like demanding that all manufacturers make, and all stores stock, equal amounts of right-handed and left-handed pieces – except that the homosexual agenda is much more serious.
I’m not religious and I’m not in favor of any major alterations of accepted tradition, on a whim, to accomodate a few homosexuals. The risk/reward on that is pretty poor.
progressoverpeace on November 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Your other retorts were too silly to respond to.
I said Christians do more good than any other group. I should’ve added per capita, which would resolve the “outnumber” remark.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 9:05 PM
As tough as is required.
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 9:05 PM
We’ll be singing our carols and eating our goodies while they foment, act out and call themselves enlightened. It must be very satisfying for them.
They have their reward.
Matushka on November 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM
If you ever meet the old guy, I hope I’m there to defend him.
Lovingly.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 9:08 PM
I don’t believe in atheists.
John the Libertarian on November 12, 2008 at 9:10 PM
They have their reward.
Matushka on November 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM
davidk on November 12, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Well-said, johnboy. All one has to do is look at Europe or Russia to see the inevitable outcome of atheism (practical and militant): Socialsm and Islam, here they come.
TMK on November 12, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Catholics really need to get over themselves.
Ortzinator on November 12, 2008 at 9:14 PM
He’ll have to wait his turn. The Pope is number 1, and there’s a long list before I get down to bootlicking scum like Donohue.
LimeyGeek on November 12, 2008 at 9:15 PM
This is where two dipshitz met.
Neither was successful in promoting any thing other than Donohue’s ability to blowhard and Fox’s incompetence in failing to ask Allah to debate him.
Speakup on November 12, 2008 at 9:17 PM
I like Donahue. People like Galef contribute to a moral relativism that destroys the cohesiveness and stability of a society. That’s a given. Just look around you.
Connie on November 12, 2008 at 9:19 PM
I repeat:
You ought to see a counselor about that hatred.
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Rabble rabble rabble!
SouthernDem on November 12, 2008 at 9:23 PM
As far as I can see there’s no reason people who aren’t Christians can’t celebrate Christmas. It’s extremely secular. We even decorate a tree based on a pagan holiday.
Esthier on November 12, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Maybe Christians are attacked for a reason. Maybe there is something, a spirit perhaps that doesn’t want the message of Jesus being heard. Why are other faiths left alone?
GoodBoy on November 12, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Wow!! Is it just old men that are in for an ass whoopin’ or are there some women and kids on your list as well??
PH3ar The Geek!!!
I’m peeing in my pants right now…
BigWyo on November 12, 2008 at 9:30 PM
I agree with John the Libertarian, there is no such thing as an athiest.
Vince on November 12, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I have no faith….and I hate you because you do.
Does this about sum it up??
BigWyo on November 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM
How can there not be such things as atheists. Allah you continue to hold it down.
DeathToMediaHacks on November 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Who’s idea of “good” are we then supposed to believe in. If each of us has a different understanding of what “good” means then there is no limit to what we can do and call it good.
wakey74 on November 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Open question.
Why don’t you believe in God?
Too hokey, too many hypocrits, help me understand your motivation for not believing in God.
jack_in_the_box on November 12, 2008 at 9:59 PM
A lie can travel
half way around the worldon the internet for 32 minutes whilethe truthAllahpundit isputting on its shoesgetting back from his break to read the comments on Hotair [updated].-Mark Twain
MB4 on November 12, 2008 at 10:00 PM
What does being good mean????
flash044 on November 12, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Notice that the humanist dude never responded to the Ramadan comment.
We need more guys like Bill D on our side. The people that make me the angriest are guys like the Archbishop of Canterbury who was all cool with
Sharia law in England. If you won’t defend your side, do you expect the enemy to?
Not to get all apocalyptic on ya, but the good book does mention increased persecution of Christians in the last days. They have already been run out of Europe (except Poland, god bless ‘em). I guess Charles Martel, the great French king who turned back the Muslims in the Middle Ages, fought in vain. Now they are starting to chip away at America, the last great Christian power.
Finally, I was struck by the anger in CA re the Prop 8 issue. It is as if the gay community — after 25 years of easy wins — was absolutely shocked at some push-back. Grabbing a cross from a little old lady and stomping on it looks kinda Satanic to me. Reminds me of Larry Kramer and ACT UP and some of the silly stuff they did to Catholic churches in the 1980s. Come on people, how ’bout some tolerance?
I am OK with people who don’t want to be Christians. Just don’t be imposin’ that deviancy on ol’ John Boy.
johnboy on November 12, 2008 at 10:02 PM
God does not exist. He is being itself beyond essence and existence. Therefore to argue that God exists is to deny him.
Tav on November 12, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Here’s me, thinking that the US Navy went to Indonesia after the tsunami and the various branches of the Armed Forces were the first to arrive after Katrina.
Had absolutely no idea it was the secret Christian Armed Forces. Are donations so good that you folks can afford an entire fleet of ships?
You also need a citation of some sort to back this per capita claim. I don’t expect to get one.
Krydor on November 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
It takes a lot of faith to believe in an entity unbound by the laws of time, physics, etc. The Bible itself declares salvation through Jesus’ blood will be dismissed as foolishness.
Part of God’s message is the demand for faith, defined as being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
but Tav is exercising interesting logic
jack_in_the_box on November 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
As an atheist, I’d just like to say that neither of them showed any tact. Donohue’s assertion that atheists never go for Muslims is correct, and it is something I yell about all the time. On the other hand, his choice of a murdering cannibal as a possible outcome of atheism is also just a ridiculous.
And I’ve read the comments and nobody appears to appreciate that Humanism is, in a sense, the answer to “there is no morality in atheism”. Humanists are guided by common moral codes which they see as a way of advancing the good of society as a whole. They declare that they are for being good to each other, trying to help the poor, being compassionate towards others, etc… things that most religious people here would absolutely agree with. They just declare that they don’t see a reason to need God to believe in these things and try to live them out.
What’s so wrong about that?
If your argument against atheism is the lack of a moral code, Humanists, in general, should be something you applaud.
And no, I don’t approve of their anti-Christmas message. I am an atheist and I happen to like Christmas as a wonderful tradition. Nothing wrong with it. Even Richard Dawkins has said he doesn’t want to get rid of Christmas and enjoys the holidays as much as anyone else. He even likes singing Christmas Carols.
Summer on November 12, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Anna:
I would fight to my death to defend your right to say what you did. But my heart truly aches for the rest of your sentiment.
I hope you can be as tolerent of my beliefs as I am of your non-beliefs.
Chewy the Lab on November 12, 2008 at 10:26 PM
My comment to Anna? Ditto to Summer.
How sad.
Chewy the Lab on November 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM
These so-called humanists are worse than the religious because they go far enough to eliminate God from their belief system, but for some reason they keep the same moral code. I’ve always been an atheist, but I side with the Christian guy in this clip, at least over the moron he’s arguing against. His stance seems to be to simply replace God with the “good of mankind”. It still leads to the same anti-individual culture of servitude and suffering for the good of a non-existent higher purpose. At least the Christians really believe they have something to gain or lose in the deal, once all is said and done.
And what’s with their sick obsession with everyone else’s beliefs anyway? Why can’t these people just leave everyone else the hell alone? The fact is people are hard-wired for spiritual belief and about nine out of ten of them are practically incapable of anything different. Most self-professed atheists find some cheap substitute anyway (global warming, for example, or liberalism). There’s no sense rubbing their noses in it or trying to make them feel foolish. A silly billboard isn’t going to convince anybody to abandoned their deeply-held faith, but gags like that will encourage the believers (who are far more numerous) to react with similar stunts and even use their numbers and influence to push their belief systems on society.
Sign of the Dollar on November 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Christian pity toward atheists is very offensive, alienating and passive aggressivly condemning.
jack_in_the_box on November 12, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Can I treat someone with whom I strongly disagree with patience, kindness and respect even if they don’t reciprocate? That is the challenge Christ lays out for everyone.
jack_in_the_box on November 12, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Where exactly does Santa Claus fit into the Christian mythology?
JayHaw Phrenzie on November 12, 2008 at 10:38 PM
–If, as you say, there is no God, then why has evolution seen fit to program us, as you say, to believe in nonexistent deity?
–Ninety percent of humans are incapable of atheism? What about the many people who go back & forth between theism & atheism?
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 10:38 PM
That’s not what Bill said.
I’ll try to summarize his argument:
What if Dahmer sincerely thought he was doing good?
jgapinoy on November 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I guess I think that smirky young atheists aren’t doing much but rebelling against parent substitutes – look at me, aren’t I outrageous? I’d have to say I think Donohue is right, and that there’s obviously some agenda here other than what’s being claimed. I also think it’s right on to point out that the “humanists” don’t have the balls to take on the Muslims over Ramadan, any more than the “radical” gays in California, Utah, and Michigan have the balls to “speak truth to power” when it comes to the black churches who voted against gay marriage. Posers are posers.
In my personal experience things have gotten awfully real a few times. I think a lot of people don’t know how they feel about whether there’s a God until they’ve experienced FEAR, an acronym for “F***K Everything And Run.” Not “I know everybody’s got to die”, but “I’m gonna die. Now.” When you lose control of your body it tends to change your perspective, and most people stop talking so tough after the first couple of times.
You blustery nonbelievers might consider a little humility if you haven’t been tested yet. Just be patient, you’ll get your chance eventually.
warbaby on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
For the same reason that I was pitied for my beliefs just now, I side with Humanists on a lot of levels. Pity because I don’t believe in God is disgusting to me. I know it’s well intentioned, but think about it. Do you pity Jews as well? or Hindus perhaps? Would you tell that to their face? Or just to somebody who doesn’t believe in God at all? Seriously, it’s offensive. I don’t mind being offended, but I generally tell people when I am.
Summer on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
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