Surprise: Gun sales through the roof since election
posted at 9:00 pm on November 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The LA Times piece is even more vivid than the clip. What’s the problem? Can’t a guy flip-flop egregiously on a watershed Second Amendment case in the middle of a campaign without people questioning whether he’s serious about gun rights?
At this rate, The One might end up being the best friend the NRA ever had. Exit question: Will the Rahm Emanuel Civil Defense Corps be lending a hand in gun “registration” enforcement, or will we be leaving that to the pros?
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You invest in your education. You invest in your home. You invest in the market. Invest in your freedom.
As others have said, it isn’t that you will use it, it is the fact that you possess it, that will keep the government out of your closet.
Right now a Bushmaster M4A3 is between $950 and $1250, depending on vendor. I would expect the same weapon to be $3000 to $4000 by summer. Maybe more.
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Heh. Nope.
Weight of Glory on November 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Speaking of ammo…
Anyone have any good websites to purchase in bulk?
F15Mech on November 12, 2008 at 9:24 PM
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/
bubby62 on November 12, 2008 at 9:52 PM
That’s a good question. I know a man who claims to have a pistol, ammo, and $10,000 hidden inside of a tire on a rotting junk car. I don’t know where the car is.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Lifetime NRA lock and load member.
Do not even think of messing with the Second Amendment.
JammieWearingFool on November 12, 2008 at 9:53 PM
LoL
This is fracking hilarious.
rockmom on November 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
More on the Swimming Pools Of Death:
http://volokh.com/posts/1205343824.shtml
Ban Swimming Pools Today! It’s For The Children!
Realist on November 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
And I’d be very curious to learn how long you’ve been stuck in your mother’s basement.
Esthier on November 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Don’t need any more guns… but I am low on ammo!
Hog Wild on November 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Was in a gun shop yesterday. It was packed. The buzz in the background? Obama’s name.
jcheney on November 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Some win! That’s what they always scream. Victimology is what they major in at the PC University.
sharrukin on November 12, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Do you even have a shred of guts to just say what you’re thinking?
My guess is no.
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 9:55 PM
First timer here.
I think I need to start right now and quick.
Any recommendations for basic home defense ?
DeweyWins on November 12, 2008 at 9:55 PM
From:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drown.htm
Why aren’t we banning pools? Do people not love the children? /sarc
darclon on November 12, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I’ll be heading to the gun show in Austin this weekend! I figure the best time is Sunday morning before church lets out! My ski trip this year might be on hold since I need to arm myself!
calguyintexas on November 12, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Anyone else notice that dude from Brady say “President Obama”? It’s not 20 January yet.
It’s anybodies guess how this will play out, if it does at all, but hypothetically it seems to me that while Obama’s domestic military force could make the rounds in our schools asking children whether their parents have any guns in the house
Any suggestions on how to strike a balance between creating a gun-friendly mentality in a growing child (I have a five year old) and dealing with what you just mentioned?
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Keep your bullets dry and your guns well greased and ready
tocoloro on November 12, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Basic home defense: A 12 gauge. The Mossberg police shotgun (model 88) runs about $175 bucks. It ain’t pretty but it works every single time.
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 9:58 PM
In The Federalist #29, Alexander Hamilton wrote, “if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens.”
The wife and I just completed CHL training and qualification, and sent the paperwork in today.
God bless Texas and the USA
Droopy on November 12, 2008 at 9:59 PM
I NEED ADVICE:
want a nice effective handgun for my home that’s easy to load quickly — I have been planning to get a gun for some time, but like the people in this news item, I want to get it before the prince of peace gets sworn in…
D2Boston on November 12, 2008 at 9:59 PM
How do they do it in Israel? Like on the Kibbutz? I sense that that is Rahm’s model of a shining collective on a hill.
Buy Danish on November 12, 2008 at 9:59 PM
It’s been that way for the past six weeks around Memphis. I don’t go to stores and use words and phrases like “civil war” and “revolution” and “secession.” But I can tell you a lot of other people do and they aren’t discreet. I’ve eavesdropped on some amazing conversations lately.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:00 PM
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Well, sorry I was kinda kidding around, I think I just didn’t say it as well as the person who said if you need to bury it, it’s time to use it. But on second thought, that tire idea might work if searches start to happen. Don’t want to be paranoid, just sayin’.
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 10:00 PM
DeathToMediaHacks on November 12, 2008 at 9:48 PM
That was funny. The answer to your question depends on how close you live to a large city. The inner city crowd doesn’t frequent the gun stores.
swami on November 12, 2008 at 10:02 PM
a shotgun
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I just purchased my first handgun a couple of weeks ago. I felt proud to exercise my constitutional rights while I still have them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Point_C-9_and_C-9_Comp#
$150 with a box of 9mm shells. It works great. I’m convinced it will stop anybody stupid enough to break into my house.
They will NEVER take it away from me. Hey… things happen. It could get stolen. “Sorry Mr. Civilian force man… somebody stole that handgun that was registered to me. Maybe you can find them and get the gun from them” he said with a smart-assed grin on his face.
mikepatr on November 12, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Time for some gun show ammo too. I’ll be needin’ some 9mm.
Mojave Mark on November 12, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Stick to basics. A 9mm, .40cal or .357. Ammo if plentiful (right now) and most all modern handguns have drop safety features.
1911 .45s are sweet (if tuned) but not for a first gun.
Revolvers cost as much as a semi-auto. Six/Seven shots vs fifteen/sixteen. You can’t go wrong with more shots.
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Haha:
Get’em while thier hot!
Vigilante on November 12, 2008 at 10:05 PM
My comment about burying weapons was tongue in cheek. But I do know people who say they have weapons hidden in a variety of places. I don’t intend to hide my guns. Nor do I intend to turn them over.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:05 PM
And folks… GET TRAINING if you’ve never been around guns. PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR FAMILY get trained if you’re a newbie.
mikepatr on November 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM
just bought a mossberg .12 pistol grip.
Desert eagle next.
blatantblue on November 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM
CaptFlood on November 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Those who are thinking of buying their first handgun. Weight reduced recoil making it easier to fire and more accurate, so lighter doesn’t make it better.
sharrukin on November 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM
This increase in sales is no exaggeration. I had a few minutes to burn before I went to work the other day so I stopped in a gun store which is on the way. The place is excessively expensive but I just wanted to look around and see what was on sale wondering if a sale might make a box or two of ammo semi-affordable from this place. I walked in and not only were there quite a few people in there but the gun racks were half empty. Also, I saw a news crew pulling away as I walked in so I’m assuming a local network was doing a similar story on the increase in sales.
Yakko77 on November 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I would not post the types of guns that i have just saying
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I heard the owner of a survival food company say their orders are running 120 days behind due to recent overwhelming demand.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I just shot this link over to my wife. She thinks I’m a little crazy for buying my first weapon since leaving the army 20+ years ago. I added an AR15 to the Beretta 9mm and I’ll probably add a shotgun and a smaller pistol to the collection.
I’m trying to convince all of my friends to pick up at least one gun, this is our only defense against tyranny. We all have to be ready for the brainless hordes following the orders of their dear leader.
crashland on November 12, 2008 at 10:11 PM
I did my part. I bought an HK91 this week, along with 20 magazines. Bless HK91 for having such cheap mags!
fossten on November 12, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Smith & Wesson VersaVault
Put two in the house years ago when the kids were young. Keeps ‘em locked and easy to access.
AZ_Redneck on November 12, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Fear of Uncle Sugar or fear of burglary?
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:13 PM
A good sign there are still plenty of really smart Americans out there.
They aren’t looking into the future with a lot of confidence.
JellyToast on November 12, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Why would you buy this?
fossten on November 12, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Fear of the Zero’s cyber cops
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:15 PM
My comment about burying weapons was tongue in cheek. But I do know people who say they have weapons hidden in a variety of places. I don’t intend to hide my guns. Nor do I intend to turn them over.
Just out of curiosity, how come they hide them? (I’m assuming it’s not just to keep them away from small children…?)
As for your non-intention of turning them over, more power to ya!
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I don’t have kids myself so I’ll let others respond in regard to safety training.
To the matter of teaching your children not to tell the nice people visiting their schools about your guns, I would suggest stressing the history of our nation and the importance of freedom and liberty and why the 2nd amendment is crucial to that, combined with the fact that the enemies of freedom will need to take away our firearms in order to fully realize their goals, “and they’ll tell you with a comforting smile on their face that your parents are sick and need Obama’s help.”
So if anybody at school asks if there’s any guns in our home, say, “Heck NO! Guns are EVIL and my parents LOVE Obama!“
FloatingRock on November 12, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I would not post the types of guns that i have just saying
Not to be paranoid, but I think that’s probably wise.
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Dear Cyber Cops:
Limerick has two M4s, one 1903 Springfield, one M14, one .44-40, three 9mm semi autos, one .40 semi auto, a .380, two 12 gauge police guns, and a 10/22 just for fun, oh and one helluva nice slingshot.
Screw the Cyber Cops. My right. I’m a citizen. The libs can pass all the laws they want but they can’t take my rights away unless I give them away.
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Agreed…
jerrytbg on November 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Depends on your budget. Most will say Glock, Glock, Glock. If you go that route, I suggest the Glock 17. One of the best handguns in the world. Runs about 600 new, although there are tons of used ones you can get ahold of for 450-500.
Myself, I didn’t have a lot to spend. I got a Bersa Thunder 9 Ultra Compact. 13 in the magazine, ideal size for concealed carry if you should wish to do so, and from the engineers of Beretta. Fantastic little piece for 325.
More great ones:
Sig Sauer
Beretta 92 or PX4 Storm
Browning Hi-Power
Ruger P90 series
My personal but unaffordable favorite: Heckler and Koch USP
Plenty of choices. Just stay the hell away from Hi-Point. Ugly as sin, cheap as hell, and worth what you paid(little to nothing).
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
fireweednectar on November 12
In Canada we had the gun registry which required all Canadians to register their firearms. Gun stores began selling ‘Rock Proof Piping’. Allan Rock being the minister in charge of the gun registry at the time. The point was that if they come to search your house you can claim you have no firearms.
Thankfully we have a Conservative government now and for now that threat seems to have receded.
sharrukin on November 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Many believe someday a government agents will show up and search their property for guns. During Katrina they went door to door and took all the guns, so it isn’t an unreasonable fear. I don’t believe they searched homes for guns, but they did take those citizens admitted owning.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:21 PM
You cant go wrong with a Glock. It has a fairly simple point and click interface.
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg15-e.htm
Dreadnought223 on November 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
lol…good one!
jerrytbg on November 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
It would seem to me that there should be an increase in sales of body armour by the likes of Barney (screw you and give me the $)Frank, Chris (see nothing wrong with the banks or freddie/fannie) Dodd, Chucky (we got you Americans by the Jacksons)Schumer, Harry (let’s get even) Reid, and Nancy (people who voted prop 8 are stupid) Pelosi. Their collective tyranny as with many in their party is taking us over the edge.
wepeople on November 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Painfully true. When I took my concealed carry course, the instructor had various handguns for us to handle and practice holding. My two favorites were a Sig Sauer and an H&K. They just felt so right in the hands.
Then I researched how much they cost…yikes.
Slublog on November 12, 2008 at 10:23 PM
FloatingRock on November 12, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Yeah actually I’m going to take him to safety training, they have stuff for kids in here.
The only thing that concerns me re: what you said is that wee ones are known for telling the truth. It’s not in their nature to lie (unless there’s candy involved) and most of the time adults can tell when they are trying to repeat what they’ve been told to say.
If I do the safety stuff with him, d’ya think just telling him “no” if he asks do I have one is fairly….uh…don’t know what word to use. Covers all bases?
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
I understand it’s our right just don’t need any heat on my side of the street unless I UNLEASH IT!
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Why don’t you stop pussyfooting around with this and just say what you mean, that you think this is all racist. Progressives’ entire lives are built around racism so everyone must be.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 10:26 PM
The gun control freaks have everyone convinced that the firearm is the end of civilizatin as they know it.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Oh, so I wasn’t being all that paranoid after all.
@ Limerick, I love your attitude, but I’m not that brave. Besides, surprise also seems like a pretty good weapon.
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Ain’t like they couldn’t find out (registered).
baldilocks on November 12, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I didn’t say they were all in the kitchen cabinet. Here there. Also doesn’t account for other members of the family.
And guess what, DeathToMediaHacks, I’m a white guy. BOO!
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:30 PM
My husband is a retired police officer. He totally agrees.
Glynn on November 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Might be a good idea to buy a couple from private individuals.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
sharrukin on November 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Thanks. Do you have a link on that?
What if they say, “Do you own a gun?”
fireweednectar on November 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
NOT REGESTERD?
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
BTW, I think the NRA has a gun safety materials or classes available for children.
FloatingRock on November 12, 2008 at 10:32 PM
LOL,, Keep an Obama poster ready to hang in your window the first sign of riots or when the community organizers come knocking. Course,, down side is you might also draw cockroaches and flies.
JellyToast on November 12, 2008 at 10:33 PM
ABSOLUTELY. Learn how to safely handle a firearm and practice, practice, practice. Practice handling it, practice cleaning it, practice shooting it. And remember, a firearm is always loaded unless you have personally just unloaded it.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Sorry… Itchy trigger finger I guess. Good luck jumping through the hoops in California. In Massachusetts whether you get a permit or a license-to-carry is up to your local chief. Mine stipulates all the usual fees, forms, ETC., but also the following requirement: “Notarized letters of recomendation from three (3) persons of good character, excluding relatives.” How then, I wrote to my chief, is the Second Amendment an individual right as per the Supreme Court’s recent ruling in ‘District of Columbia v. Heller’ if it requires the mandatory involvement of three other private citizens in order for me to exercise it? Dead silence so far…
Where’s a gun-friendly pro-bono lawyer when you need one?
CaptFlood on November 12, 2008 at 10:34 PM
No registration in Wisconsin. I guess it makes up for being one of the only two states without concealed carry.
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM
I hope this hasn’t been mentioned, I didn’t read the whole thread, but for those wondering about educating kids and gun safety, the NRA has a great program called Eddie Eagle. I would strongly recommend joining the NRA.
Glynn on November 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM
They won’t be finding my weapon unless they tear the house apart.
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Texas is only 20 hours by car. Walk in, plop down the cash, walk out. Handgun, shotgun, rifle, no problem.
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:38 PM
They won’t be coming into my house as long as I’m alive.
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I have a 12 gauge, but I bought a .410 for home defense that both my wife and my oldest daughter find less intimidating. I keep it loaded with triple ought buckshot.
I decided to get the .410 for them after reading this:
As women and older children could be using this home defense shotgun, bulk, weight, recoil and noise are definitely factors to consider. Thus, a .410 bore shotgun is a great choice. A 3 inch .410 shot shell fires 3/4 ounce of shot at 1100 feet per second, resulting in approximately 800 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, and a 2 ½” .410 with ½ ounce of shot produces approximately 600 foot pounds at the muzzle. The delivered energy at the defense ranges considered here are greater than a .357 Magnum revolver cartridge, but the longer barrel and greater weight of the shotgun results in less than half the noise and recoil. More important, the shot pattern is about 8 inches in diameter at 20 feet (full choke), and does not generally penetrate a wall, whereas a .357 Mag bullet pierces walls easily…and unintended victims on the other side.
flyfisher on November 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Geez, we’re gonna need something to contend with that “civilian defense force.”
I was wondering what Obama was going to do with the Nation of Islam.
drjohn on November 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Oh, cool!
Let’s center the news story from the very city where the last president who was assassinated, was assasinated!
ToddonCapeCod on November 12, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Remember people. Be calm. Ed is watching.
Y-not on November 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM
WTF is an ASSAULT RIFLE!!! You bunch of dipsh!ts …. You wouldn’t know a rifle from a flippin’ shotgun.
roux on November 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I’m not a big shotgun fan myself but there is a lot to be said for the fact that the round will generally not penetrate walls and doors. I’ve never really given any thought to a .410 for home defense but I think you make a good weapon for the wife and daughters.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Thats KOOL Thats Cool
driver on November 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Nothing wrong with a .410. Nothing at all.
Again, my point to people here is that the gun itself is nothing. It gives you no power. The power comes from you, the citizen, exercising you RIGHT to a weapon. Without that right you can do what? Protest in the street? Turn over a car or two? Then what? You have to run for cover when GOVERNMENT LEAD heads your direction. Believe me, the government will be a whole lot more levelheaded if they know you haven’t thrown your weapon in a smelter.
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM
If or when confiscation or home searches for guns start happening there will be no need to hide guns. Guns will already be in use.
bubby62 on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Lemme guess, the gold, .50 AE one with the tiger stripes?
doubleplusundead on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Now I have to add my meager advice to those who want a first time home defense weapon.
first choice: a 12 gauge shotgun with 22″ barrel and tactical ammo. The short barrel length for turning in cramped quarters like hallways and doorways, and the tactical ammo because, as much as the name makes one think it more powerful, it is actually less so. It has plenty of takedown power, especially at close range, but is less likely to have killing power if you miss and blow a hole in the drywall of your house.
After all, you are trying to protect your loved ones, not maim them.
Second choice: Now remember, this is for home defence, and if you are only going to buy one firearm, ignore the semi-automatics and get a revolver. Seriously. I would recommend a .357 magnum, because you can practice with .38 ammunition, which is a hell of a lot cheaper. And please, use hollow point ammo, because it breaks up on impact, as I mentioned before, when you miss and start blowing holes in your walls, less impact force on the other side of the wall.
Why no semi-auto? Because a revolver NEVER jams. Pull the trigger and it goes click? Pull it again, it goes Boom!
If your semi-auto jams when you need it most, you have a very expensive rock.
OneEyedJack on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Pay very careful attention to the encoded ammunition link that Limerick has provided. A lot of people, including some gun owners have not concerned themselves with this bill. Here’s a small part of what it is about.
Glynn on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Here is a handy little Mossberg Kit.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/015813513401.html
Just a shame their out of stock atm.
Dreadnought223 on November 12, 2008 at 10:46 PM
It’s just a matter of time, isn’t it…….
Seven Percent Solution on November 12, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Now I have to add my meager advice to those who want a first time home defense weapon.
first choice: a 12 gauge shotgun with 22″ barrel and tactical ammo. The short barrel length for turning in cramped quarters like hallways and doorways, and the tactical ammo because, as much as the name makes one think it more powerful, it is actually less so. It has plenty of takedown power, especially at close range, but is less likely to have killing power if you miss and blow a hole in the drywall of your house.
After all, you are trying to protect your loved ones, not maim them.
Second choice: Now remember, this is for home defence, and if you are only going to buy one firearm, ignore the semi-automatics and get a revolver. Seriously. I would recommend a .357 magnum, because you can practice with .38 ammunition, which is a hell of a lot cheaper. And please, use hollow point ammo, because it breaks up on impact, as I mentioned before, when you miss and start blowing holes in your walls, less impact force on the other side of the wall.
Why no semi-auto? Because a revolver NEVER jams. Pull the trigger and it goes click? Pull it again, it goes Boom!
If your semi-auto jams when you need it most, you have a very expensive rock.
OneEyedJack on November 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
I need to add that the sound of a shotgun being racked, or a revolver bieng cocked, stops plenty of invaders in their ttracks, without a word ever spoken. :)
OneEyedJack on November 12, 2008 at 10:50 PM
I actually did not like the Sig (personal opinion I suppose)
but the H&K USP is the Porsche/Ferrari/Lamborghini of handguns.
F15Mech on November 12, 2008 at 10:50 PM
PVC pipe for burial with both ends sealed and the weapons stripped. Some kind of sealant gun grease on them.
Don’t bury them if they are just for hunting because if it comes to the point where burying them makes sense you won’t be hunting with them.
In the States cheaperthandirt.com sells Burial Tubes for firearms.
sharrukin on November 12, 2008 at 10:50 PM
LOL…..I needed that. Now back to my NRA manifesto…….
Limerick on November 12, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Infiltrate the CDC and destroy it from within.
csdeven on November 12, 2008 at 10:51 PM
HK: because you suck, and we hate you.
doubleplusundead on November 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Do you mean tell you kid you don’t have a gun? I would be honest about the issue so that, even with safety training, they aren’t surprised if they find it someday. If our concerns about Obama actually come to fruition and you want to take the other tact you can always tell your kid(s) you got rid of it or something.
Besides, if Obama turns out as bad as some fear he might, (which isn’t a certainty), kids are going to have to learn to lie to the authorities for other reason besides gun’s anyway, so I would concentrate on teaching them why lying in such circumstances is actually their patriotic duty.
FloatingRock on November 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I’m expecting no-knock warrants while I’m at work. ;)
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 10:54 PM
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