Quote of the day
posted at 10:40 pm on November 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“Uncle Ted hereby declares it is open season on RINOs. No bag limits or permits required. Conservative ideas, arguments and votes are the weapons we will use. Hunt them down and shine a blazing light on these RINO turncoat cockroaches…
We must not make the mistake of keeping the GOP tent so big that there’s room for RINOs.”
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Exactly!
Sporty1946 on November 13, 2008 at 9:25 AM
The point about “gay marriage” is that the courts are making stuff up.
Same thing with Roe v. Wade. The SCOTUS just made it up.
Once that starts, it doesn’t end.
Next up: the (un)Fairness Doctrine excoriating Freedom of Speech.
But you sit there and talk about your “limits on spending”….what a joke.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 13, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Actually, John Warner wasn’t too bad of a Senator and was quite popular in Virginia despite several votes I personally didn’t like.
You digression is inaccurate. Mark Warner won because Gilmore was hugely unpopular as is the Virginia GOP. How do you explain the Dems taking the governor’s mansion twice in a row, the legislature and now Virginia’s two Senate seats? The Virginia GOP is the disgrace and in serious need of reform.
So, what? You propose the same kind of ideological purity that drove you away from the Dems? Yeah, that’s the ticket to electoral success. NOT! If the GOP is not willing to stand for all the People around shared principles instead of a whole range of nonsense that only one or two factions push, it can forget victory for quite awhile. Well, unless Obama really IS Carter Redux as I suspect he is in which case they might win an election because of anger. That won’t last long though, something Obama is about to find out on his end.
JohnAGJ on November 13, 2008 at 9:40 AM
What’s not to love about the Tedator?
perroviejo on November 13, 2008 at 9:41 AM
So, the GOP lost bad, has ticked off Hispanics (the largest growing voting population) and wants to purge itself of supporters who are viewed as insufficiently pure?
Good way to continue losing elections for quite a while, IMHO.
jim m on November 13, 2008 at 9:43 AM
Seriously, how complicated is this?
Why do we need a candidate who preaches fire and brimstone; what good does that do? When election day draws near, Democrat candidates can rail against abolishing marriage just as strongly as the most evangelical Republican can. Then after getting elected, they go back to gleefully appointing aparatchniks to subvert the law of the land.
When you directly attack activist judges and their anti-Constitutional rulings, NO Democrat can ever argue with you. Yet we get side-tracked away from this every single time. Why?
logis on November 13, 2008 at 9:47 AM
You’re missing the point.
I may be a liar, adulterer, hypocrite, etc. but I’m certainly not going to start an organization and then demand entry.
Just because I do it doesn’t mean I don’t know it’s wrong. That’s the point.
ex-Democrat on November 13, 2008 at 9:55 AM
I am a centrist, not a moderate, “moderate” implies I dont have any strongly held views.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Exactly,
Mt problem with Roe v Wade has nothing to do with Abortion, it is a lousy, lousy, legally unfounded decision. Just like Griswold and Lawrence (which are right in principle and wrong in reasoning, IMHO)
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM
No, it just “made up” Griswold v. Conneticut, then it ruled accordingly and legally in Roe based on established case law.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:10 AM
True conservatism is the center.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 13, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I lived in your state when Warner was guv. I am sure many more people are voting for him because he was a ridiculously popular governor who was so good he got a toolbag like Kane elected just on his endorsement.
Good job Virginia GOP.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM
I have no real problem with RINO’s in the tent as long as they do not control the gate, do not set the agenda, and do not control the primary process and sked that gave us McCain last time.
We have had a lot of elections where those fellows have run things and all that has happened is loss and the voters purging the evil fellows from office. Why in heavens name would anyone vote for a dem in drag when tehy can get the real thing??
JIMV on November 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM
“quite popular” does not a good senator make. This post is exactly the kind of cr@p that is killing our country.
ex-Democrat on November 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM
The Republican Party seems to have withered away in New England. Yet conservatives can win: Ronald Reagan did in 1984. The problem is that there is no one of any prominence left who can articulate conservative ideals and offer a true alternative to the liberals. Even Mitt Romney had to hedge and waffle to get elected Governor of Massachusetts, and that was against weak opposition.
Mitt attempted to stir up Republicans to rebuild the party at the grass routes, but as far as I can tell it was an half-hearted attempt (Mitt basically abandoned the state in his quest for the Presidency). In the meantime the Republicans in the state legislature shrank down to a bare dozen or so, and Obambi Lite (Deval Patrick) now rules the roost in the Governor’s office.
In many precincts in Massachusetts (like mine) Democrats run unopposed at all levels. Vermont was captured by liberals from New York years ago, who send Socialist Bernie Sanders to the Senate. Connecticut’s token Republicans are gone. New Hampshire was reliably conservative until Massachusetts liberals settling in the southern part of the state took it over. Maine still elects Republican Senators, but they are RINOs who generally vote with the Democrats.
This is happening elsewhere. A caller to Rush pointed out that Colorado’s swing left was driven by refugees from California, bringing that state’s poisonous liberalism with them. Northern Virginia is now a suburb of Washington, DC. North Carolina apparently is also being taken over by expatriot northern liberals.
What can we do to reverse this trend? I think it’s going to take a conservative movement that presents a clear alternative to the ideology and the sentiments of the liberals, not a ‘compassionate conservatism’ that essentially accepts the New Deal and the Great Society as faits accomplis. In other words,
Reagan didn’t reach out. He spoke of conservative principles with pride and moderate Dems came to him. . .
pugwriter on November 13, 2008 at 7:35 AM
Stick to the ideals, get charismatic people to articulate them, and people will come. We shouldn’t be talking about drumming RINOs out of the Republican Party, but of making the party a magnet for all who are drawn to conservative principles. If the RINOs aren’t, they will go elsewhere, of their own accord.
MrLynn on November 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Ummmm ok.
Then, by your fantasy definition of the political spectrum, Reagan spoke like a conservative but governed from the center-left.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Prolly because there were no TC’s in the race.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Wow, hyperbolize much?
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me… … 8 years of RINO influenced leadership. You want to type here and rail against people who would rather say “No” to RINOS?…I’ve learned from experience rather than reading theoretical pontifications.
MNDavenotPC on November 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Erratum: The Pugwriter quote should have been a quotation. Wish we could edit our posts.
MrLynn on November 13, 2008 at 10:28 AM
When your leaders fail you, claim they went off the reservation and are “impure”
Works every time
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Simple…they look at the dem talking points, drag them a notch or so toward the center, and insist the rest of the party comply. The result…massive RINO purges and a good number of good conservatve republicans flushed with the RINO’s.
Reagan was for a big tent but he was never confused about who ran that circus.
The problem with RINO’s is that they took control and forgot the folk of the base who got them there in the first place.
JIMV on November 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Or we got tired of being ignored and degreaded by the Limbaughs of this world. RINO’s (what a derrogatory term) and independants have pulled the GOP across the finish line in every election since Reagan. If the Dems had run someone more centrist in 80, 84 and 88 you would not have seen the margins you saw.
Reagan knew where his bread was buttered, that is why he was a far more centrist president than he let on.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM
RINOS believe that they can manage and grow the government more efficiently than the democrats
joey24007 on November 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Well, centrists are all different but here are some of my thoughts.
Real fiscal conservatism:
Tax Cuts with associated responsible spending cuts.
Dont keep giving the DoD a pass, they need an audit too.
Social libertarianism, with no “special rights”:
States rights on issues like abortion and gay marriage. Opposition to hate crim laws.
Defense / foriegn policy:
No adventurism to “spread democracy”. Military Action to support real policy goals and protect U.S. interests.
Responsible Environmentalism:
Protections for what is left of our natural resources and beauty. Drill domestically but only as a backstop until we are off oil completely. Nuclear power incentives and tax breaks to develop new technologies.
Hope this helps.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Cute,
I am glad McCain lost, I was beginning to think that the T.C.’s were going own up to being intellectually bankrupt and take some damn responsibility on their shoulders, but I was wrong, it is back to blaming everyone else.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM
RINOS (Dems in drag) and Independents (Dems who pretend to have an open mind but always pull the dem ballot lever) have been of little use for decades as they have not had anything like an idea they have not stolen from those dems and polished a bit. What they forget is that one can polish and polish a turd and still, it will never be a diamond.
Just what have moderates and RINO’s brought us? McCain Feingold…an unconstitutional attack on political speech (and in a delicious aside, the money mess that perhaps cost McCain the election). Then there was the wonder of the gang of 14 and the 3 conservative appeals court judges thrown under the bus in exchange for Senate colegiality. RINO’s have never been responsible for a single good thing that republicans have managed but they have prevented a lot of good stuff…making the tax cuts permanent cmes to mind.
JIMV on November 13, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Interesting, your portrayal of independents. They make up a plurality of the electorate, and if they are just Dems, than the Dems make up 70% of the electorate, throw in the RINOS and you are screwed.
BTW, the winner of the last 6 elections has won independents, big.
Who won a majority of those elections?
Guess they dont “always” pull the lever for Dems, huh?
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Or in exchange for Alito and Roberts.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Until someone tells me to stop (or has some good suggestions).
Count to 10 on November 13, 2008 at 11:15 AM
You confuse the clueless with ‘independents’…that middle majority. 90% of them ARE ‘Independents’ simply because they have no political opinions, or interest at all and only wake up every 4 years for the election where they vote for the folk who promise the most and then promptly go to sleep again.
Anyone with an agenda can get that vote if the folk being pandered to believe the promises. As republicans cannot out pander the dems, such attempts are doomed leaving us simply in the realm of ideas and, as I have already noted, RINO’s have no ideas.
The shortest book in the Library is “Great Moderates, their ideas and infuence”.
In point of fact, NO idea, policy, or event of any real importance has ever been accomplshed by ‘mderates’ or the squishy middle. Freeing the slaves, Social Security, winning WWII, building the Panama Canal, trans continental railroad and the Interstate Highway System are all things that folk with bold vision did, not the squishy middle….the middle fill seats, people TV talk shows, and gladhand the media. They do NOT author original ideas of do the heavy lifting toward greatness a great nation deserves….they simply occupy space. They are loadstones on the path to greatness.
JIMV on November 13, 2008 at 11:20 AM
After the nuclear option we would have had both….Do you really believe the new administration will NOT use that to insure their commies make the court?
JIMV on November 13, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Guy in the “Squshy Middle” who made a compromise freeing the slaves even though he did not always think it was the best thing to do.
Radical Liberal, or was he a centrist who was stong on foreign policy but near socialist on domestic.
Strong foreign policy president, despised by the “Real Republicans” for his trust busting and populism.
If there was ever a moderate RINO it was Eisenhower.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Anyone who belives the moderates of the country did any of those things much less the space program, the Louisiana Purchase etc, is on some pretty strong meds…perhaps as a result of the dem blowout the RINO’s gave us a week ago.
JIMV on November 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Sarah Palin ain’t going no where.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/palins-appeal-proves-durable/
Dr Evil on November 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM
The Nuge…the conscience of the nation….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM
You keep confusing “moderates” and “centrists”.
The RINO’s didnt give us a blowout, the Democrats did, by appealing to the center.
Squid Shark on November 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Uncle Ted. You are the man. Yeee-ha!
HornetSting on November 13, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Its going to be ‘Weekend Warriors’ lookin for
‘Car Scratch fever’,with a little ‘Fred the Bear’,
and ‘Huntin for The Great White Buffalo’s(RINO’S)Ha ha:)
canopfor on November 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
AP, you might consider investing in a heavy vest with this headline and the one about gun sales. /sarc
Sultry Beauty on November 13, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Zero in the “we the people” crosshairs of your voting assault weapon and aim for the RINO pumpstation. Double tap center mass. Whack em and stack em, track em and hack em, pack em and give em no slack. Let’s do to the RINO beasts what we did to the passenger pigeon. Force out of the Republican Party out the subspecies known as RINOs. (Ted Nugent)
Uncle Ted is the Man.
la.rt.wngr on November 14, 2008 at 9:20 AM
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