Esto ya fue tratado anteriormente, pero resulta que ahora los medios de comunicación vuelven a poner esto en la primera página: Palin promueve las matanzas de lobos.
Lo han citados varios medios audiovisuales, pero en la prensa escrita, por una vez, …

What “modern” man has done is stopped or limited prey hunting by raising our meat in fields: cows, pigs, etc.

In Alaska, you can’t just say “So, what, let the caribou and wolf populations die out.” Caribou and moose are still the meat in Alaska. They don’t have the climate or land to have domestic animal production and shipping beef up there is expensive. If the caribou die off, then people will have to ship in meat at great cost from other parts of Alaska or from the lower 48.

Sarah said that all the fish they catch, and animals they kill, end up in their freezer for their sustenance. By kiling the wolves they are protecting their food source as much as somebody killing predators on their cattle ranch in Texas. The “ranch” in Alaska is just the whole state.

OT, the thread headline brought wolf-thinning politicians to mind. And a Hoven quote from American Thinker made me chuckle (though regarding the death of the Republican Party and McCain’s campaign):

But when was the last time you heard anything blamed on “greedy legislators”? Did you ever think that corporations that give money to legislators are not bribing them, but simply paying them protection money?

If you are detecting some anger on my part, it is because I was given the choice, in its purest form, between Stupid and Evil last week. And Stupid is so stupid he doesn’t even recognize Evil when they wake up in bed together and his hind end is sore.

Randall Hoven

Do you know what the most shocking information I learned from this thread? I am not alone as a conservative biologist. I could make a joke about being a endangered species but it is so obvious.

peterargus on November 13, 2008 at 8:14 AM

Yeah, well it certainly does feel that way sometimes.

I learned that there are apparently more geologist types running around here than I thought.

reddog on November 13, 2008 at 1:56 AM

I call troll.

You have got to be kidding me. What law was broken, for which constitutes your felony? Unless your thinking of the Endangered Species Act? If so, try again, the Alaska population does not fall under ESA protection.

Also, what do you think makes the biggest impact on the population? Kill off a couple of males? NO.

You’re an IDIOT at the very least if you’re not troll.

It’s cool like using a moustrap for an ant.

It’s a felony. Palin doesn’t plan on prosecuting the wardens. Maybe she told them to shoot the mothers and their litters. Won’t be many litters for the next few years now that the breeding females are dead.

Good job Sarah. Maybe she’d like to do the same to Michelle and the two little girls.

The wolves present a far greater danger to caribou than drilling ever did, but I guess caribou are only valuable as a means to block drilling.

Or as something cheap to use in conjunction with “Barbie”.

So, from a conservative perspective…

Granted, I don’t know the details of all this and perhaps it had something to do with the safety of nearby human populations, but just to play devil’s advocate…

As limited government believers, if we don’t want the government choosing winners and losers among humans, why should we want them choosing winners and losers among animals? The law of unintended consequences applies in nature as well as in economics.

Oathkeeper216 on November 12, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Okay, I’ll play.

Are you from Alaska?

May I invoke the 10th amendment into this conversation?

That brings me to another question. If the Caribou population had been further decimated by inaction on the state government, who would the liberals blame? Do you think it might just be Gov. Palin?

simkeith on November 12, 2008 at 8:29 PM

You betchya!

Hammer hits nail.

That brings me to another question. If the Caribou population had been further decimated by inaction on the state government, who would the liberals blame? Do you think it might just be Gov. Palin?

Granted, I don’t know the details of all this and perhaps it had something to do with the safety of nearby human populations, but just to play devil’s advocate…

As limited government believers, if we don’t want the government choosing winners and losers among humans, why should we want them choosing winners and losers among animals? The law of unintended consequences applies in nature as well as in economics.

Maybe all the resurgent calderas all over the world will blow at once. That would surely be a fiery end to all.

End of the Holocene, for sure. :)

Hunting dollars are huge. The more deer, elk, caribou, bear, cougars, ducks, geese, or whatever there are, the more tags you can sell.

The long answer . . . man has screwed up migrations routes, destroyed huge tracts of habitat, drained wetlands, etc. etc. etc. It’s our responsibility to keep species populations healthy where we have progressed the rate of what would be natural extinction of a species (if such a thing were even possible to determine).

In short, see the short answer.