Audio: The obligatory “Rahm Emanuel talks about compulsory civil defense service” clip
posted at 3:54 pm on November 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We already knew this, but it’s one thing to know it and another thing to hear it. I hope he presses Obama to implement it, as the weeks of fun we’ll have with “Imagine if Bush had proposed this” scenarios will amount to a new golden age for the right-wing blogosphere. Promise me this, Rahm: Not just barracks but uniforms, too.
Exit question: They don’t have enough Obama cultists willing, able, and sufficiently underemployed to volunteer? On second thought, that’d be an exceedingly bad idea, wouldn’t it?
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Scary.
Y-not on November 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM
And the punishment for not “volunteering” would be?
Alden Pyle on November 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Ballerina Boy is Barack’s Barrack Buddy.
carbon_footprint on November 12, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Wild guess, some kind of tax.
ThePrez on November 12, 2008 at 3:59 PM
The punishment for not volunteering better be nothing more than a polite letter or I leave this country, this is sickening.
Project Ocelot on November 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I dont think liberals are motivated enough to serve in something like this!
That would entail putting down the XBox controller, taking a shower and actually doing something!
Well now that I think about it maybe they are since they turned out and elected O last week. But that was for a welfare check, I dont think this will fly!
HoosierCon on November 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Better to draft ‘em all rather than just giving the ACORN members guns…
Realist on November 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Those who don’t volunteer will be made to volunteer
VanPalin on November 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Let’s see…
We’ll have a Youth Brigade,
We’ll have Compulsary Service,
We’ll have a “People’s Car”,
We’ll have gun control…
I don’t want to be accused of breaking Godwin’s Law, but all of this is beginning to sound familiar…
gridlock2 on November 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Nah, they’ve only got enough free time for protests which usually involve violence and destruction of other people’s private property. The rest of the time, their schedule is booked: cash mommy and daddy’s check, buy weed, repeat.
RightWinged on November 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM
What would this force do? Is it a precursor of a concealed draft?
the_nile on November 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM
The way to offset that $40 an hour volunteer pay for college students?
I wonder what PT in the morning will look like…
beatcanvas on November 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Inelgible for mandatory nationalized health care insurance. You WILL sign up.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Rahm Emanuel may be a good politician, but he comes off as some sort of a dope.
D2Boston on November 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
My children WILL NOT participate.
Full stop.
omnipotent on November 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Palin/Broun 2016!
Akzed on November 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Dude…….Weed, hahahahahahaha
ThePrez on November 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
…TRAIN RIDE.
Oh. My. F’ing. God.
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Slavery returns.
T J Green on November 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
OMG, I have a freshman is college now, does he have to drop out and serve or will he get a “deferment”? WTH, these guys cannot be serious.
d1carter on November 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
And, BTW, should we “calm down” now?
d1carter on November 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
I think there were folks in Germany that said the same thing.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Yeah, that’s a bit creepy. And it doesn’t even sound very well thought out at all.
flipflop on November 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Oh sure, and “volunteers” will get tax breaks that make non-participants pay through the nose. It’s all about pain avoidance, which means that Americans will have to provide enough pain for the Democrats to want to avoid.
Akzed on November 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM
52% of Americans
CAN’T be wrongare absolute gullible sheep!omnipotent on November 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Uncle Ted, did you hear the banjos playing at the beginning of the clip?
Editor on November 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Hm, doesn’t the Constitution say something about involuntary servitude? Oh yeah, Obama thinks the Constitution is fundamentally flawed, so we’d have to just dispense with that technicality.
CP on November 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM
A mandatory 3-month period during which every 18-25 year old shares a common experience to impress upon them what it means to be an American. Given the fair, objective, unpolitical and bias-free handling of ideology that currently exists in public schools, on college campuses and in the media, what could possibly go wrong?
JustTruth101 on November 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Get with the program. Taxes are not a punishment, they’re an opportunity for the rich to show how patriotic they are. Some white guy with plugs told me so.
Y-not on November 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
*pirouette*
*stab*
Rahm’s Circle of Love!
Brat on November 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
I don’t understand. Dear Leader will ask us to volunteer. How could anyone say anything other than “Yes”?
Sure there may be a divisive person here or there, but they’ll have a chance to reflect upon their divisiveness down in a soon to be empty Caribbean camp.
rbj on November 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Uh, Democrats.
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
No way my kids will ever participate in something like this. Anyone who denies these people are less than full blown Marxists needs their heads examined.
DerKrieger on November 12, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I’m going to miss the Christmas rush and shop early………
If you say “NO” to these goons, what will be the fallout?
Home of the Free……….. Land of the Brave?
Seven Percent Solution on November 12, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I can’t believe this is serious.
MayBee on November 12, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Sounds like they are gearing up for some serous sh!t!!!
and we wonder why there is a huge run on GUN STORES!!!
driver on November 12, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Ah yes, train rides. Train rides. Good times.
But let’s not focus on what the man SAID. Don’t worry about this compulsory volunteerism or anything like that. That would be so . . . ODS, don’t you think?
You MAY NOT QUESTION. Get it straight, guys.
Alana on November 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM
What are dead fish going for these days?
locomotivebreath1901 on November 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Whatever we do, let’s not compare them to any well known and understood tyrants or regimes in recent history okay? That would just make us sound really crazy to the Left, the media and the anxious to be accpatable beta-conservative.
People better wake up and be vigilant.
TheBigOldDog on November 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I can’t believe that this “Civilian National Security Force” didn’t evoke a lot of serious questions from the media during the election. Oops, of course it didn’t, it was Obama’s “proposal”.
ProfessorMiao on November 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Seems to me there were other train rides for people who disagreed at one point in history. Bergen-Belsen mean anything to anyone?
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM
After 12 years in gubmint skoolz and 4 years of collegiate liberal indoctrination, come on, what harm can 3 more months do??
Brat on November 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Settle down, please.
Allahpundit on November 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
SSS
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
imagine the howls as the youth realize that college loans get tied to service. Wow, they really are serious. Seriously crazy that is.
Anyway lets see what special events can happen at camp.
Week one:
Inconvenient Truth watched. Students who question Al Gore’s yacht receive extra education.
Week 2-Receive voter registration guide for 4 separate states.
Week 3-Donate money to Obama 2012
Week-4 re watch Inconvenient Truth and follow up with Fahrenheit 9/11
week 5-Extra special appearance by The Decembrists
Week6- Special trip outside camp, must recruit at least 2 members for DNC rallies.
Week 7-Watch MSNBC all day.
Week 8- Learn about how evil life was under the Reagan years.
Week 9-Learn about the many foreign policy success of Jimmy Carter.
Week 10- Send hate mail to radio station of choice
Week 11- Send hate e-mails to various bloggers.
week 12-Vote in absentee straight ticket democrat, leave the ballot undated.
rob verdi on November 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
How many “journalists” are in the age range? How many “youth” voters?
DerKrieger on November 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
I can deal with the 50 jumping jacks, but when they get to the squat-thrusts, count me out.
“A train ride or a barrack”? Ironic choice of words.
Bigfoot on November 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
I keep imagining a stadium filled with phalanxes of young men and women wearing gray uniforms and black berets, chanting Obama’s name. From what or whom, exactly, would they be defending us? Am I an alarmist to find all this talk about groups formed for community service and civil defense profoundly troubling? What are Obama and Emanuel thinking? Create a service tradition alternative to the conservative-leaning military? What?
troyriser_gopftw on November 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
SMITH: I meant to ask you about the universal service piece of the plan. Can you tell me about it? Like, how is this going to work? Are people going to live in barracks?
EMANUEL: Universal Civil Defense Training…I think he had it at 18, but we were saying somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25, you will do three months of training. You can do it in your(inaudible). Some point in college you can do just that. There can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar experience of civil …what we call civil defense training or civil service…some sense of service to country in preparation, which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American. We propose three months. At the end of the day someone says it should be four more. I’m not going to sit here and hold it up.
SMITH: I mean it’s a lot more than the U.S. government asks of anybody right now.
EMANUEL: Guess what? We have a lot more challenges, so we are going to need a lot to do it.
SMITH: I mean I don’t mean to get hung up on the aesthetics of it, but like uniforms…is it like Europe…people go absent
EMANUEL: If you’re worried about going to have to do 50 jumping jacks, the answer is “yes.”
SMITH: Are you kinda shifting the “country-esque” Army bases in the Summers? I mean… I wonder how it’s going work. This is people’s experiences. It’s so abstract. Do you go nine to five in some course in a Red Cross building?
EMANUEL: The whole idea there is it will be worked on you can do it through your State-National guard could be the vehicle for that. The goal here (inaudible) to work on piece of legislation for ya’ and all that, but that’s one venue of doing it.
Smith commented on the NY Daily News blog about Emanuel’s reaction to his curiosity on the “universal service”:
We also talked a bit about his new book, The Plan, written with Bruce Reed, and particularly about his argument for instituting some kind of universal service, in the form of civil-defense training. He found my interest in whether there will be barracks more amusing than I’d anticipated.
The mainstream media continues to ignore this plan, which is not necessarily unusual for them. However, considering the amount of youth voters who lined up for Obama this election season, it is truly unfortunate they are the last ones to find out about this “requirement” of the new Obama administration. The audio is uploaded at Eyeblast.tv.
Cross Posted at Video Done Right
Akzed on November 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Believe it. I didn’t make up this list or even have to exaggerate. It wrote itelf mainly from stories posted right in in beta-conservative land:
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” — Santayana
* Speeches in stadiums filled with mesmerized, adoring audiences – Check
* An uninspiring background before meteoric rise – Check
* Creates his own new symbols of power – Check
* Associates with racists, hatemongers and violent radicals – Check
* believes in redistributing the wealth – Check
* A propaganda machine willing to show him only in the best possible light – Check
* Uses, “glorious leader” style Agitprop posters common in totalitarian nations – Check (see German campaign poster for example)
* Wants Secret Police force – Check
* Somebody powerful people think they can control – Check
* Often dismissed as a light-weight by his opponents – Check
* Seeks to replace God with the State – Check
* People adopting his name as their own – Check
* Inspires adoration art – Check
* Appropriates symbols of past German glory – Check
* Never plans on giving up power – Check (Obama to be president for the next “eight to 10 years”)
* A narcissistic megalomaniac – Check
* Brazenly Takes credit for other people’s accomplishments – Check
* Wants to build “youth” movement through Universal National State service – Check
* Acts as if in power before he is – Check
* Some followers believe him to be divine – Check
* Worshiped and aided greatly by the media – Check
* Has his own salute – Check
* Has thuggish supporters intimdating political opponents – Check
* Using the power of the State to silence critics – Check
* Songs written to glorify him performed by children – Check
TheBigOldDog on November 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Facts?
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Using the fear of more terrorist attacks as cover to assemble the American Gestapo.
pmanley on November 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM
These are the same people who kick out our recruiters in colleges. This is disgusting!
DJ from MA on November 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM
I say, we dont let them come for anyone…we must draw the line and NEVER LET THIS FORCE COME TO BE.
javamartini on November 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM
There’s your liberal fascism with a smiley face.
KelliD on November 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Nah, it will be voluntary – they’ll just run recruitment ads like this one for the Ukrainian Army:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH_E6YSQqTo
(Believe me, you don’t have to understand Ukrainian to get the ad – not NSFW, but you might not want to watch it in a straight-laced workplace.)
Oh wait – the ad is politically incorrect, isn’t it? The Obama variant won’t promise girls to the 18 year old recruits, but rather free carbon credits – that will bring them in. /sarc
Realist on November 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Normally I’d agree Allah, but this is getting creepy. Obama himself talks of a civilian security force as powerful as the military, his goons set out to sue people and basically shut down outlets who criticized him, the media’s broadly unwilling to question him, critics of his are shouted down as racists, and now he has a Chief of Staff who wants Americans to undergo compulsory training.
amerpundit on November 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
God forbid people be very concerned about a charismatic leader with a large cult-like following in the middle of a major worldwide crisis. A leader with known radical, racist associations. It’s not like anything really bad has ever come out of similar conditions.
TheBigOldDog on November 12, 2008 at 4:16 PM
What doesn’t kill you makes you wish you were dead.
AubieJon on November 12, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Pretending it couldn’t happen is exactly how it happened before. It is a very short ride from mandatory service to punishment for not agreeing. And it is an even shorter ride from punishment for not ‘going along with the leader’ to ‘changing your mind for you.’
johnsteele on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Rahm was in the IDF, it makes sense that he believes compsulatory service will instill more pride to the electorate. I imagine they’re just going to attach any government help with school bills/loans/scholarships as being mandatory service in the Peace Corps/Civil Service.
Joek7132 on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Yeah, but leave for where?
Sign of the Dollar on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Get your guns now.
DerKrieger on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
That just scared the s*** out of me!!
Ozark_sky on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Note to self, Must buy more BULLETS
driver on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
You posted it, calling it “obligatory,” meaning that you really didn’t want to post it, then you say “Settle down” when your readers go predictably nuts, as if you are above it all or something.
Do you have children?
Akzed on November 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Do you have your papers to leave the country?
tru2tx on November 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM
OT Dow now down 400 points today
William Amos on November 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Liberalism is weakness emobodied and leads to war. Only question is, who attacks us first.
DerKrieger on November 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Chilling.
Emmanuel is our American Trotzky.
And many of you thought MR was overboard on the secession thing.
Sapwolf on November 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Good Point!!
Ozark_sky on November 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Ve haff vays uf making you volunteer.
AubieJon on November 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM
‘will give people a sense of what it means to be an American’
And if I, unlike Emanuel, already know what it means to be an American, can I opt out??
I wonder what the Obamites are thinking as they are clapping in the background while Obambi slips in the civilian national security force.
neal7 on November 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM
You will like it,and if not, you will pretend to like it!!
Get in line,get with the program,and even tho,you
don’t agree or think its a bad idea,in the long run
you will thank those that forced,oh crap,I mean helped
you along with the program,
and don’t forget,even tho your to stupid to realize
it will benifit you,you will eventually come to your
sense’s and realize that the program in the long run
will be good for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Sarc!).
canopfor on November 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Hmmm I wonder how much I could make selling Community Service Offsets.
- The Cat
MirCat on November 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM
No thanks, this household will not participate.
Vashta.Nerada on November 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Arbeit Macht Hope!
ronsfi on November 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM
It’s times like this when I’m glad to be 48 years old.
Not just because I’m ineligible for boot camp, but because I prefer not to see too much of the future that the new regime is going to build for us.
Very scary stuff.
sauropod on November 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM
All this ’shared experience’ stuff or ‘feeling what it is to be an American’ sounds very Israeli.
Phoenician on November 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM
By the way………….. They do plan to arm Illegal Aliens into the Civil Defense Force, don’t they?
Yeah………….. just like arming the Palestinians.
……………….. this should work out well.
Seven Percent Solution on November 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM
My SON will NEVER burn one calorie for these mf’s.
I’m shipping him south to live with my sister-in-laws family. If he needs to visit, he can come here illegally under a different name.
Sapwolf on November 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I have a question…
Who’s to say that a bunch of bitter Americans, clinging to their guns and bibles volunteer for the Civil Defense Service?
We can lie and say that we believe dear leader. And then, we can turn on him if needed.
Sound nuttier than a fruitcake?
HornetSting on November 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM
It may be slighty OT, but it is definitely related.
Vashta.Nerada on November 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Levin came up with the perfect nickname for Emanuel: Al Capone.
Jim Treacher on November 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM
sauropod on November 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM
driver on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
I’m with you, Alana. Keep a sharp lookout for that ODS. It can take many forms. For example, saying outright that Obama is a not-so-closeted Marxist socialist who maybe possibly might do what all Marxist socialists do once in power is a sure sign of creeping ODS. Who knows? Guys like David Brooks and Christopher Buckley might be right: if we close our eyes and wish it hard enough, maybe Obama will magically drift to the middle and govern from the center. Happy thoughts happy thoughts happy thoughts.
troyriser_gopftw on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Glad I’m 23…gives me plenty of time to watch the impending Armageddon.
pmanley on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
If this order gets signed,will it be the typical
style,like Bill Clinton would do at 3,4,or 5 in
the morning?
canopfor on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
He called this a circle of LOVE???!!!
Ozark_sky on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Is this ZOG taking over? /sarc
“instill more pride to the electorate” , liberals have done the opposite for years , and now this.
the_nile on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
So, Rahm Emmanuel envisions people being loaded onto trains and then taken to some barracks. Ummm, where have I heard that before?
Kafir on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
All of the principled civil libertarians at the underground and Huff-n-blow must be pulling their hair out.
not
moxie_neanderthal on November 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
why don’t we have some fun with this.
Lets make/draw up our submission for Uniforms for Obama to pick from. The creepier the better, HA could post finalist and we vote.
its the least we could do as members of 48, to come together with those in 52!
jp on November 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM
When Rahm said train ride or barracks.. what do you think he was referring to? He is Jewish, right?
Texas Gal on November 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM
*Gulp*
It’s time to buy those guns. Now.
Recommendations for a newbie? Lots of law enforcement family so training is easy to come by.
TheUnrepentantGeek on November 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM
That’s a very good point.
Still, makes me very nervous.
MadisonConservative on November 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM
it sucks at the moment, but thank God these power hungry fools weren’t in power on 9/11
jp on November 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Nein, nein, Arbeit macht Change!
Kafir on November 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM
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