Quotes of the day
posted at 9:35 pm on November 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
“Some conservatives who are gluttons for punishment are getting a head start on ensuring a 2012 drubbing by prescribing peculiar medication for a misdiagnosed illness. They are monomaniacal about media bias, which is real but rarely decisive, and unhinged by their anger about the loathing of Sarah Palin by similarly deranged liberals. These conservatives, confusing pugnacity with a political philosophy, are hot to anoint Palin, an emblem of rural and small-town sensibilities, as the party’s presumptive 2012 nominee.
These conservatives preen as especially respectful of regular — or as Palin says, ‘real’ — Americans, whose tribune Palin purports to be. But note the argument that the manipulation of Americans by ‘the mainstream media’ explains the fact that the more Palin campaigned, the less Americans thought of her qualifications. This argument portrays Americans as a bovine herd — or as inert clay in the hands of wily media, which only Palin’s conservative celebrators can decipher and resist.
These conservatives, smitten by a vice presidential choice based on chromosomes, seem eager to compete on the Democrats’ terrain of identity politics, entering the ‘diversity’ sweepstakes they have hitherto rightly deplored. We have seen this movie before. Immediately after the 1972 election, some conservatives laid down the law — the 1976 Republican nominee must be Vice President Spiro Agnew.”
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“Harris … said that the party is now divided into two wings: the ‘hell, no’ wing and a ‘yes, but’ wing. ‘The ‘hell, no’ is going to fight [Obama] every step of the way’ on ideological grounds.
‘The other will say, ‘Yes, we agree with a lot of his objectives; we want to do it in a somewhat different way.’ It really, I think, goes right to a tactical and philosophical fault line in the Republican Party.’
[David] Brooks was not convinced that Sarah Palin could be taken seriously as the GOP’s next Ronald Reagan.
‘Well, the ‘hell, no’ group is rallying around her,’ he said. ‘And this past week, I don’t think, has been particularly flattering to her, the McCain people – and the whole thing has been a complete disaster. They’ve attacked her for her lack of human capital and for being a diva.
‘I’m not sure it’s all fair, but one would not say she has spent her life preparing for an intellectual revolution to lead the party out of the wilderness. Let’s put it that way.’”
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“Hell No, and Yes, But” are the only choices?
How about making our own destiny with a clear-headed vision that could care less what the Media thinks, what Obama lies about or covers up, or who the old-timers think is “due” and get busy building something out of the ashes.
Obama overthrew the country from Chicago. outside of Washington. Bill Clinton had his Arkansas gang.
Bush came in from Texas but kept the Clinton gang in place.
I think the RNC should move to Kansas. As likely to find a rainbow and a unicorn there as anywhere.
Joan of Argghh on November 10, 2008 at 12:06 AM
If the Republican party would throw their support behind the Fair Tax, they would make serious gains in 2010 and perhaps take back the Congress further down the road. That’s the only adjustment that has to be made, but its a big start.
V15J on November 10, 2008 at 12:06 AM
You just can’t win. I beg them to stop talking about purges and they start up with the military coups.
RINO in Name Only on November 10, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Well just give it some time. I suspect Allah will be the first. :lol:
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:07 AM
“R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:07 AM”
i deliberately try not to pick a fight with him on ANY topic …
:-)
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:08 AM
She sounded like one here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUMUASwaec
mainmann on November 10, 2008 at 12:08 AM
“V15J on November 10, 2008 at 12:06 AM”
serious question here — what is the fair tax in, say, 30 words or less? same exact query for the flat tax as well as for a comparison between the 2.
/the reason i ask it that way is because if we can’t put it into that simple of terms we will fail at promoting it to the general electorate for ’10 or any other time …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:10 AM
I an watching the proceedings with great interest. All that I can say for certain is that I will vote for a conservative in four years. I am tired of backing moderate Republican candidates in an effort to avoid electing Democrats. It fails as often as it succeeds as evidenced by the Clinton and Obama Presidencies.
If the Republicans return to the conservative values that have been the basis of their popularity, then I will support them. If the party continues to press this suicidal centrism, then I will go to another party where conservatism is respected.
Please note that I am not trying to convince anybody else on this matter. It is my decision and it has already been made. All I am waiting for now is to see what the Republican party does. If the RINOs and neo-cons win, I am out.
Hawthorne on November 10, 2008 at 12:11 AM
The premise is false……………
A “Free and Unbiased Press” does not exist anymore. Why would any of you waste a fart in response to anything that they have to say?
True Conservatives know what we have to do……….. throw RINO’s and CINO’s to the Democrats, since they still want to be invited to the cocktail parties and “News Shows”, but no more money, no more support, and they will be gone soon…..
What they missed was what Gov. Sarah Palin represented, and they didn’t see it………..
Personal Responsibility, Governmental Accountability, Less Regulation, Financial Stability, Religious Freedom, Parental Control of our Schools, and leaving the us alone to lead our own lives and be the best we can be…….. and that shook the power base of not only the “Left”, but more so, the “RINOs” in power………..
Goodbye “RIONs”, Goodbye “CINOs”,………….
………… We will regroup, and you can watch from the cheap seats.
Seven Percent Solution on November 10, 2008 at 12:11 AM
The Reagan era has been over a long time, but the principles (which weren’t a Reagan invention) can still prevail. I love Sarah Palin, but if not her, then someone else. I am sick sick SICK of mealy-mouthed garbage.
ddrintn on November 10, 2008 at 12:13 AM
My dream Dem ticket in 2012: Biden-Pelosi.
profitsbeard on November 10, 2008 at 12:15 AM
The Democrats knew they had a star when Obama gave his 2004 convention speech. More people worldwide watched Sarah Palin address the RNC than the Ode to the Grecian Urn and all three debates combined. She has what it takes.
George Will, Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noon, Christopher Hitchens, David Brooks, Chris Buckley and the entire Tanning Bed Media can do their worst – and they have – and hundreds of thousands of people will still devour everything that has Sarah Palin involved. She is not only a star, but an energy expert and a very good Governor of our largest state landmass and resource-wise.
She leads by example and has a gift for communicating ideas and inspiring. Even Obama can’t do that. OPEC bought him the White House for $650 million and the crooked DNC fixed the primaries for him. He’d never won an election before that; they set him up against Alan Keyes for the US Senate, and Keyes still got 30% of the vote. So many excuses have been made for Obama during this election. He comes across as creepy and aloof to people, too.
Palin could win against him in 2012, if he screws up as badly as he would with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid pulling his strings. Before, he was talking. Every other article about him was WORM (What Obama Really Meant.) Now, it is showtime. Sarah Palin has made a career of taking risks and delivering.
I think the next few years will be good to her, because she has worked her way up to this moment. Obama has a good ass-kicking coming to him, too.
chunderroad on November 10, 2008 at 12:16 AM
fair tax gets rid of all the loopholes, simplifying tax time at every level. It would do away with the progressive income tax, which is stealing from peter to pay paul. and, the fair tax would be mandated after 4 years by an ammendment to the consitution.
we baffle them with bullshit and then kick ass when we get in declare martial law for long enough to sign an order to that effect. done!
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:17 AM
These dweebs had eight years to get in touch with the rest of the world. They spent that entire time running around the NY-DC Beltway corridors and navel gazing. I don’t need their out-of-touch “advice.”
Christien on November 10, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I am not demeaning Reagan at all in what I said. I think Reagan himself would cringe to see the party he saved in this kind of disarray, and that the partial reason why is because Republicans are waiting for him, and refusing to pull together on the off chance he shows up.
The principles are eternal, but the presentation and the strategery have to change!
Sekhmet on November 10, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Can we all on HotAir agree tonight that we are definitely gonna watch Sarah tomorrow night on Greta’s show?
MUST SEE TV!
Sapwolf on November 10, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Yeah, I agree. What goes up must come down, though as an American I don’t really wish him to be a failure. But if he governs according to what I believe are his principles, and considering the leadership of Congress, he will be. I sometimes wonder — if it weren’t for the disaster that might follow — if the Dems keeping hold of the Congress by ever-so-slim majorities after 2010 might not be a blessing in disguise. After what happened in ’96 and all. If the Republicans retake Congress in 2010, they’ll be painted as the nasties who stood in the Messiah’s way.
ddrintn on November 10, 2008 at 12:20 AM
i’m going to be a naysayer here. We want the congress not the presidency. Democrat presidents can be pushed to the right. That’s why I want an army of leaders. We want congress not the presidency. 2010 is our first goal. 2012 is irrelevant, and it would be semi-suicide her going up against Obama. He already beat her once. She can run in 8. HOw old will she be in her 50′s?
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:22 AM
No, he didn’t. He beat McCain.
ddrintn on November 10, 2008 at 12:24 AM
wait 8, what’s biden gonna do? he’ll be way too old, like robert byrd, pretty pretty pretty. maybe we can just dress joe up like the jester of the senate!
then we can run sarah the incumbent in waiting. she’s sure as shit gonna have name recognition. cheese!
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Don’t forget Krauthammer. He seems to have lost it over Sarah.
At least three columns and numerous Fox visits have been all about how Sarah cost McCain the election. I’l never trust another word he says.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM
“fair tax gets rid of all the loopholes, simplifying tax time at every level. It would do away with the progressive income tax, which is stealing from peter to pay paul. and, the fair tax would be mandated after 4 years by an ammendment to the consitution.”
ok, i guess, but r u implying that it hinges on repealing the 16th amendment then? and how is the above different than a flat tax?
/stil not buying this thing so far …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:29 AM
“It’s great to worry about Reagan. I loved Reagan, but those days are over.”
Funny how the era of FDR and LBJ are never over.
Their ideas never go away.
The Republican party is out in the wilderness because we’ve allowed Reagan’s ideas to go away.
Hawkins1701 on November 10, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Hell NO!
This man, commander in chief-elect agreed with Murhta that our Marines were cold blooded killer in Haditha and then accused our troops in Afghanistan of air raiding villages and killing civilians.
My heart is so heavy for our American Heroes fighting for us.
Obama’s claim that Iraq was a mistake disrespects all those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for victory and those who have lost parts of themselves, literally, in the pursuit of freedom for those that were denied by evil.
Until Obama acknowledges the rightness of the mission of our fighting men and women in securing our freedom and those that were denied by evil … he is not my president.
Texas Soldiers’ Angel.
Texas Gal on November 10, 2008 at 12:30 AM
“profitsbeard on November 10, 2008 at 12:15 AM”
r u implying duh1 isn’t going to run for re-election? a david palmer scenario?!
/’cause any other scenario i’m pretty darn uncomfortable with!
//actually, since the d. palmer scenario would imply me-chelle getting wacked i’m pretty uncomfortable with that one too!
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Since the Presidential election of 2012 is 4 years off why can’t we all agree that the jury is still out on Sarah as a viable candidate, but because of her popularity among Republicans (91% by Rasmussen) and leading by 50 points over Huckabee and Romney for the nomination Sarah is a top contender for the job now; in 2-4 years she may be perceived differently. So everybody out there why don’t we reserve judgment on not only on Sarah but every Republican contender until the universe starts to unfold in two year’s time. Meanwhile Obama and his gang of merry men and women should take up enough of our time and energy to keep our political minds occupied.
technopeasant on November 10, 2008 at 12:31 AM
+1
I am in the “Hell No!” camp, but I am also in the “let us wait and see camp” as well. I agree strongly with what Jimmy the Notable is saying, but many things hinge on who will be the face of our contender in 2012. The economy, national security, rioting welfare recipients, over reaching courts/judges, and the actual numbers of illegals, (120 Million?), that are about to receive citizenship and drivers licenses.
I wonder how high the razorblade sales have been lately?
freeus on November 10, 2008 at 12:32 AM
WTF? Have ya been drinkin? That makes no sense at all.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Yes, while acknowledging that after this “financial crisis”, McCain didn’t have a chance anyway. I wonder how McCain got that lead in the polls before Lehman Brothers went belly-up? Hmmmm?
ddrintn on November 10, 2008 at 12:32 AM
“R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:32 AM”
not to speak for him but i’m pretty sure he means run in 8 years i.e. 2016 i.e. when she would indeed be ~52 yrs. old …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:34 AM
As long as the MSM and GOP elitists and columnists continue to attack Sarah in a mostly unfair way, I will come to her defense. I would follow her to a sure loss against Obama, or a possible win in 2016, or a sure loser in a third-party.
Yes, I have a primordial urge, even a need to protect this flower of American womanhood.
You don’t get me to calm down by making further attacks on her. The Brook’s of the world are not really men, and that is why they don’t understand this.
I would take her in a minority party rather than a left of center majority anyday.
This is what the GOP old boys are up against.
Sapwolf on November 10, 2008 at 12:35 AM
we don’t want Dem presidents even w/GOP congress.
1) Judges
2) Foreign Policy and their Judgement and moral relativism there
jp on November 10, 2008 at 12:38 AM
lol, like a drunk. high on barryo, gettin into the spirit of southpark. i might be losing my religion. O BA MA
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Yep, it would have been a landslide for D’oh-bama if not for Sarah.
OOOOOoooo, that’s waaaay to old to be functional. And besides, B-HO will be lucky to make it 4 yrs.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:40 AM
jmo, but can we please knock off the 3rd party crap? this is America, not Italy. Those of us who have membership in the GOP and/or are registered with it via affiliation ARE the party; hence it is up to US to keep it as [bring it back to?] the right of center, small government/big liberty party it has been for its history and what is its ideal, the elites nonwithstanding …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:41 AM
She gave McCain a fighting chance but in all honesty she was beat up in the process. The McCain campaign gave more deference to Obama than protecting Palin. As soon as she gave her convention speech the media was salivating to interview her. Remember how they chalked up her success to a good speech writer? I could foam at the mouth just thinking about that stuff. The bloggers went off like loons with book banning and the whole insane who’s the mommy line. I remember Pat Buchanan saying it would be malpractice if the campaign put her out for interviews, so what did they do, put her out for interviews.
Republicans rallied behind her but let’s face some facts she was the victim of a hit job by the media and the Obama bloggers. She can recoup and her best asset is that the media loves ratings and she draws them from boths camps. She should use some of this time to get herself on top of all the issues foreign and domestic. I think she will do better away from the failed campaign crew. I am sure she will be shrewd enough to know whether a run in 2012 is going to be promising or not depending on what fails in Obama’s decisions.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 12:41 AM
That explains it.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:43 AM
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 12:41 AM
like I said Palin/Jindal 2016
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM
“anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM”
sigh, not only does ’10 come before ’12, but ’14 comes before ’16 …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I would choose Palin over George Will or Brooks or Noonan or Kathleen Parker.
“I’m not sure it’s all fair” – Really!? You dont say!? Is there some reason I should care to listen to someone so uninformed that at this late date they still say something that stupid?
aikidoka on November 10, 2008 at 12:47 AM
I’m for the flat/fair tax, but putting the legions of IRS agents, supervisors, auxiliary personnel, lawyers and offices out of business will make our current economic woes look like cake. Anyone have any idea how many people and how much money we’re talking?
TinMan13 on November 10, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Palin’s an unhinged, fundamentalist idiot. Please let her go away and never be heard from again. If she’s the future of the GOP, then the GOP is doomed to die a slow death. Authoritarianism and fundamentalism are 180 degrees opposite of where the GOP needs to go. Some of you need to get outside of the box and actually think for yourselves just a bit.
dakine on November 10, 2008 at 12:47 AM
if I can get you to stop thinking about 2012, maybe we can win in 2010. don’t underestimate the power of the incumbency and the black-magic woman. just get into your local elections call the head of the GOP and push recruiting. don’t abandon fallen congressmen, turn them into counselors for the fresh blood. change the face keep the values.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:47 AM
have you ever read Dostoyevsky’s The Idiot? You should, you’d vote for her then.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:51 AM
I agree, I would hate to see her waste a shot.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 12:51 AM
She had the hit job from the media, but, she also suffered from McCain’s insistence on reaching across the isle and not going for the throat on the issues. He didn’t want to appear “racist” in attacking Obama on the issues that would have at least made it a closer race. Sarah started hammering B-HO on it, but it was too late and had no backing from Mc. HE ALONE, lost the election. He never had a chance until Sarah came along.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:53 AM
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This place ever remind you of lizards?
R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:55 AM
she should probably to a cameo in the next primaries. or just head of rncc. if she can effect the win in congress. Gawd, so awesome! I’m a genius. someone call her now. the job is open, no?
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 12:56 AM
You really don’t know squat about her record if you’re saying things like that.
aikidoka on November 10, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Yes, because nothing says “unhinged fundamentalist” like saying you disagree with homosexuality but wish gay people no ill will, and that it doesn’t matter that one of your best friends is gay because they are your friend.
That sure is some hell-fire-and-damnation fundamentalist intolerance there.
And when she refused to sign a law against gay benefits even though she disagreed with it, because the courts had ruled it unconstitutional? Yeah, that’s really authoritarian. That’s right up there with forced labor camps and gulags and shit.
RINO in Name Only on November 10, 2008 at 12:57 AM
“R D on November 10, 2008 at 12:55 AM”
it’s been documented that the overlap is substansial …
[!]
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 12:58 AM
It’s clear you haven’t been paying attention.
Texas Gal on November 10, 2008 at 12:59 AM
are you guys making fun of me?
msm agrees with me. that’s the seal of approval there.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:00 AM
yeah, i know….see ya when ya get home.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM
i’m getting a weird vibe about these two guys.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:03 AM
“anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:00 AM”
relax; we would hope your posts would sound a bit more sober and less defeatist, but that’s jmo …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 1:04 AM
“anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:03 AM”
here’s another tip — there are plenty of other places in the ‘sphere besides this site where folks hang out …
/jus’ sayin’ …
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Enough people voted for him that he could fuly unravel in a spectacularly public way, and I would cheer. As H.L Mencken said, “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.” Do I want him to invade Pakistan? Absolutely not. Do I want Obama’s universal healthcare or tax plan, either? No.
I hope the next four years are embarrassingly inefficient. Let Congress keep trying to nationalize our industries and pass more bailouts and raise taxes. I want the American public to howl with outrage. I want them to like him less than Carter and Nixon combined, because he has the economic policies of the first and the decietfulness of the other without the foreign policy knowledge.
chunderroad on November 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM
I’m not defeatist at all. You totally mistake where msmveritas and I are coming from. I seriously think the congress and 2010 direction is a more critical discussion. And, you need to relax. It is ok to let your hair down now and then. How boring to have to spell check and to spell out everything for you. I don’t just hang out here anymore than you.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Reagan did not cringe at fools or despots. In the case of foolish men, he laughted. That was his style, because he was an optimist and believed he was right, and the right would prevail. He had true faith in his fellow citizens to have the same common sense.
A party in disarray is a party of opportunity.
Republicans are not waiting for Reagan, they are waiting for someone of true convictions with the same certainty that he is in the right. It is that quality that makes a man hold onto his convictions, and a man of true conviction can be trusted to keep his word.
The opposite of those qualities were found in this election. The candidate of the right had no faith in his fellow citizens. He lined up with the left against conservatives on major issues and used strategy, not debate, to triangulate himself into the candidacy.
Reagan was not a god. He was simply a straight shooter. He did not waver in the issues and when he said he would do something, he did.
If Republicans (that is conservatives in the Republican party) are waiting, they are only waiting for a candidate they can trust. Integrity does not go our of style and it needs no special presentation.
Refusing to pull together for a fraud on the off chance an honest man will show up is hardly a weakness.
entagor on November 10, 2008 at 1:14 AM
I totally agree with that. She breathed life into his campaign, the crowds she drew were testament to that. I think she deserves all the credit in the world. I don’t know if I gave a different impression and I apologize if it seemed that I was blaming her.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 1:14 AM
And, I love Palin beyond words. But…I seriously think it is spinning our wheels to whip ourselves into a frenzy about something that will not happen anytime soon. And, it is possible, although I admit it is hard to see with earthly eyes, that BarryO could pull through for us. Like I said Tuesday night, hopefully he turns into a Jefferson. A major ego-maniac that did basically only what was needed. Hope beyond hope, I know. Just wait till tomorrow. Palin on TV is not all that will happen.
And, I hate marxism/socialism more than most. I am so pissed that we don’t teach kids about how intellectually bankrupt that philosophy is. IMO all you have to do is read the Communist Manifesto to get sick of Marx in a hurry.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:14 AM
The only thing that saved the McCain campaign from being a total disaster WAS Palin.
There WAS a reason why SHE, NOT MCCAIN, was pulling in thousands.
This was not about identity politics, but about getting back to the roots of what being conserative is.
You want a Rockefeller Republican. Well, go to the Democrats. They have them in spades!
TexasDude on November 10, 2008 at 1:16 AM
Anyone who says that Reagan’s ideas are gone need to sit and listen (probably RE-listen) to this speech, which is very relevant today.
DaveS on November 10, 2008 at 1:17 AM
No, there’s no need to apologize. I was agreeing on that part. But, she doesn’t need to wait ’til ’12 or ’16, she needs to take some time to herself and start rebuilding the party for ’10. Then see where that leads and look toward a run in ’12. But there will be no GOP if they don’t rebuild starting now.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 1:25 AM
I think she is going to be key to rebuilding because she will have the attention. Greta said this to Rush the other night, she is effectively the head of the party as she earned 48% of the vote.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 1:30 AM
Sure, Republicans love Gov. Palin. The problem is, there are hardly any Republicans left. According to CNN’s exit polls, 29% of voters in the presidential election were registered Independents. 44% of voters self-identified as moderates. The days of winning by turning out the base are over. Either field a leader who can convince independents to follow her, or buckle up and enjoy the permanent Democratic majority. I forget, how popular is Gov. Palin with Independents?
RightOFLeft on November 10, 2008 at 1:35 AM
All I hear is that the election was won on the present state of the economy………….
But I have always asked, “What caused it?”……….
Well, the one thing that was missing in the election cycle, was the truth……..
…………… and now it will try to be buried.
If we want to win again, we have to push the truth back to the front, because none of the policies put in place have been changed.
………….. In fact, under Mr. Obama, they will be enhanced.
Seven Percent Solution on November 10, 2008 at 1:37 AM
her husband was member of alaska independence party! *wink*
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:39 AM
…………….. prove it.
Seven Percent Solution on November 10, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Ending comment for the night. God will not abandon this country to a marxist. We may have put ourselves in this situation or it may have been another stolen election. But, God is the master of this country, because we have not totally caused him to look away yet. even if there are only 50% that are worth anything. So, enjoy that thought and banish the thoughts of R and D for a day or two.
Pax Vobiscum
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM
RightOFLeft, Give her time to fix her image. Give her time to show how experienced she is if she decides to run. I think indies will come back crawling to her campaign if she runs a good message.
Palinpuma on November 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM
RightOFLeft on November 10, 2008 at 1:35 AM
You can quote all the exit polls you want but most people polled disagreed with sharing the wealth and big government. Gay marriage was on the ballot in three states and it lost in three states. People who identified as moderates or independents were like those that never voted for Nixon after the fact.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Yep. And it can’t start too soon. Thanks for the reminder about tomorrow night.
R D on November 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM
is it not a fact? correct me, please.
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:44 AM
admittedly from Wiki. wait let me check fact check.com *har*
anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:46 AM
“anti-boomer on November 10, 2008 at 1:44 AM”
not to speak for sps, but he prolly wants a link that shows that Todd was registered with them for ~4 [or mebbe it was ~6] years …
/many lll use this to claim that not only does that somehow disqualify Saracuda from ever holding federal office, but it makes duh1′s relationship with ayers absolutely acceptable
//don’t ask why, this is what they actually say!
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 1:48 AM
oooh — 7 years — that prolly makes it worse somehow …
:-)
Buckaroo on November 10, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Seven Percent Solution on November 10, 2008 at 1:37 AM
I would like to know why the You tube clip of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hearings wasn’t run over and over. McCain was suicidal in some of his “strategy” for lack of a better word.
As for the Independence party stuff, I can hardly blame Todd Palin if he was a member. Alaska decides to join the union and for that they get told that they can’t drill for oil and must preserve the landscape for all America.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 2:00 AM
Indies crawl to no one! :) Maybe, but I don’t see it happening. Gov. Palin strikes a lot of the same notes as President Bush does, and that hurt her more than anything.
RightOFLeft on November 10, 2008 at 2:02 AM
There was more to that last post, but my computer ate it. Oh well, it’s bedtime anyway.
RightOFLeft on November 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Palin’s last week on the stump was impressive. She was passionate as hell and a vibrant speaker. I was psyched on her after a few weeks of disillusionment concerning her interviews.
As far as I’m concerned, she should have given Gibson and Couric major attitude but she played it nice. Oh well; if she comes back in 2012, I hope we see the Cuda of the last week of the McCain campaign and not the indecisive one we saw with Couric.
And if she doesn’t run, it would be nice to see her get a cabinet post. She is an inspirational figure.
Metro on November 10, 2008 at 2:06 AM
That explains the massive crowds, the historic ratings for the shows she’s gone on, the astonishing approval ratings, etc. Yeah, what a drag on the ticket. How high John McCain could have soared without her.
Jim Treacher on November 10, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Freedom.
The future leaders of the conservative movement must articulate that freedom is the destiny, as well as the premise, of our principles. This truth must stand in stark contrast to the fangs of socialism and its deceptive lure.
McCain, IMHO, absolutely failed to connect the principles of conservatism to the underlying necessity that individual liberty is the goose that lays the golden egg. And unfortunately, that gave Obama an opening to court the likes of the “sophisticated moderates”.
And these lily-livered columnists like David Brooks et al, are nothing but groupies. They are parasitic sycophants that have never broken a fingernail to feed loved ones. They see the masses as plow stock to be harnessed for some kind of grand social goal, a derivative of blind, intellectual isolationism.
They know nothing of intellectualism. To them, if one has the proper pedigree, then one has the right stuff to debunk the concept that “government that governs best, governs the least”. Ironically, though they live immersed in a life of rhetoric, they cannot discern between the learned mind and the loquacious dolt.
Give me a grand speech, lift my spirit to the mountaintops, send my soul to the heights of heaven, dare me to rise above and join hands with the Audacity of Freedom.
Saltysam on November 10, 2008 at 2:13 AM
And Obama’s wife is a member of the Communist Party. *uh*
Jim Treacher on November 10, 2008 at 2:14 AM
He was too wasn’t he?
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 2:31 AM
And hussein is a member of the socialist party.
The liberals are so scared of Gov Palin it’s almost to funny. Hussein wont be worth the toilet paper on the bottom of his shoe come 2012.
christene on November 10, 2008 at 2:38 AM
On another note…remember all the talk about the “New World Order” and the all it’s trappings?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449264,00.html
I’m starting to wonder if the liberals haven’t engineered this entire freaking catastrophe alongside the UK to kick start this thing.
ZOMG, buy your guns now, and don’t be cheap on the ammo.
Spiritk9 on November 10, 2008 at 2:50 AM
Palin would be a disaster. I love her to death but she’s not Presidential timber.
If we’re going to put up a sacrificial lamb then let it be Mitt.
I trust Mitt is already on the stick putting together a new internet grassroots team that will be expanding like a spiders web.
He’s the only one with the financial resources to put something together to battle the Obama machine.
mylegsareswollen on November 10, 2008 at 3:10 AM
I just got a link from my daughter for a facebook group Rebuild the Party. It is an interesting read since most there are younger republicans.
msmveritas on November 10, 2008 at 3:14 AM
“intellectual revolution”? Give me a break! We have had quite enough of “intellectual revolution” in DC! What we need is a ‘real American’ revolution.
Remember that the definition of a PhD (Piled higher and deeper is too easy) is one who studies more and more about less and less until he knows all there is to know about nothing.
They also believe that no one knows more than they do, a very dangerous person to have in a position of power.
BHO’s problem will be that while he strokes his chin and consults with an army of advisers Israel will fall, ditto Taiwan. The rest of the free world will than understand that they have to increase defense spending by factors of ten or twenty making this world a much more unsafe place.
Cuba/Venezuela could take Mexico down before BHO could convene his advisers. Ditto Russia and Canada.
LCL4 on November 10, 2008 at 3:38 AM
George Will is a perfect example of what is wrong with the Republican party right now. His elitist disdain for anyone outside of the beltway — he would prefer we run losers like flip-flopping silver spooner Romney or somnambulent Fred Thompson when, as Karl Rove said, we need someone who can put conservative ideals out there in a way that people around the dinner table can grasp them.
The president doesn’t need to be an ivy league lawyer, just a good executive with a clear vision for this country. The Republican party needs a complete overhaul. Time to get away from the business-as-usual approach and get some fresh faces that can give our political views some traction outside the base.
postaldog on November 10, 2008 at 4:24 AM
If you love her to death, then that is the feeling you need to chase. She may not be ready now, but in 4 years she certainly can be.
Poeple, this is a do or die situation. Fussing and fighting over Romney, or anyone is a dead end and a waste of 4 years.
If we want a conservative in the white house in 2012, then it has to be someone who has the base locked up. Screw the Big Tent, screw the media. Focus on enlarging the base. Republican GOTV should be the primariy institutional focus for the next 4 years.
The above, coupled with unrelenting attacks on Obama (yes, I am advocating “opposition for the sake of opposition) is the only solution. Anything less is a second Obama term, followed very likely by Hillary in 2016.
Waterboy on November 10, 2008 at 4:44 AM
Absolutely. You could argue that it was better to have gotten trounced as the Repulicans did last week than to have lost by a nose (both the POTUS and house/senate races). The sad thing is that there are still those who think we “barely” lost this thing and just a bit of fine tuning with change things in 2010/2012.
Take the loss, learn from it!! No more Big Tent, stop trying to win voters that are firmly under the Dem/MSM spell and get back to basics!
Waterboy on November 10, 2008 at 4:48 AM
It must be fun fighting against cartoonish caricatures of people instead of the people themselves. But that’s pretty much been the strategy all along for the left: avoid dealing with Republicans by equating them with villains from Captain Planet.
Lehosh on November 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM
Sarah Palin was more qualified to be President than Obama was. Simple as that. And McCain was an idiot for not repeatedly making that statement at every opportunity.
Extraneus on November 10, 2008 at 6:13 AM
Since the bumper sticker on my car says “DON’T BLAME ME, I VOTED FOR PALIN!”, I guess you could mark me down as a “Hell No”.
gridlock2 on November 10, 2008 at 6:27 AM
The GOP insiders hated Reagan. They hate anyone who doesn’t come from their narrow little clique.
MarkTheGreat on November 10, 2008 at 7:19 AM
dakine – you are kidding right? I mean you couldn’t be an anonymous blogger on the internet at 12:47 AM on a Monday morning calling one of the most popular and effective governors of a state an “an unhinged, fundamentalist idiot” could you?
So, Sarah Palin was the problem with the GOP ticket? Wow. John McCain, the “screw-the-conservatives” biggest moderate of the Republican party, got trounced by an out and out Marxist. If that isn’t evidence enough for you that the Republican Party is already dying a slow death with moderate liberalism, then it is you who is idiot.
Maybe you need to get outside of your parent’s basement and think for yourself just a bit.
King of the Britons on November 10, 2008 at 7:31 AM
If some Bush-loving insider wins the RNC chair and we run a Romney who appeals to “moderates” I’m just gonna leave the party
We already tried that crap with McCain. Like Rush said, there’s a blueprint for winning elections. It’s ’80, ’84 and ’94. You bring people into the tent by staying on a conservative message. This time, we have to actually stick to it, though.
lodge on November 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM
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