I have to say, I wasn’t sure what to expect when I went to see Fireproof. It was being pushed by my church, but I somewhat expect a “b” movie.

It was a very entertaining movie, with laughs, drama, and a real plot.

The movie, and the ideals that it represents have since helped my wife and I get along much better. At one point, I was ready to file for divorce not too long ago, but this movie helped us to see each other differently, but also in my case for sure, it helped me to look at myself, and how I could be a better husband. I’m not sure how much this movie had to do with it, but our marriage has changed dramatically for the better.

charlie36r on November 10, 2008 at 7:57 AM

That’s awesome! I tried to get my best friend and his wife to go see it (they’re having problems), but to no avail.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.

Kirk Camroon is everything that makes Christians look stupid…

Kaptain Amerika on November 9, 2008 at 6:49 PM

Speak for yourself. I’ll stand next to Kirk Cameron on this any day. He’s out there fighting in the trenches trying to help the lost avoid going to hell. What are you doing for the Lord? Huh? Tell us. We’re curious. Folks like you are living under the assumption that God would never really send anyone to a burning hell. You’re just fooling yourself and in for a rude awakening. You see my friend, God didn’t spare the angels nor the men and women of the old world, but sent them to hell to await their final judgment. What makes you think for one moment He’ll spare you!

Nobody has a monopoly on “The Truth”.

Odd. That sounds like a truth statement about “truth.” I guess somebody thinks they DO have a monopoly on it.

If you want to see more values centered movies at the theater, then support this one. We were glad we saw it!

Tim and I are buying tickets to this movie for his parents – they rarely get out to the movies, and it seems like a good bet. I’m hoping they might get the subtle hint too… my FIL isn’t addicted to porn, but he does spend way too much time playing with trains, and not enough time taking care of my MIL (who needs the care). I also read somewhere that Kirk Cameron had his wife fill in for the kissing scenes, so that he wouldn’t have to kiss a woman other than his wife. Unconventional, but I totally respect that.

yeah you’re another case in point… brilliant argument there… maybe you should be in his next movie…

Kaptain Amerika on November 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM

But somehow we’re supposed to believe your argument that “Christians are dumb” is brilliant. You’re obviously bitter toward Christianity. Just be a man and admit it instead of throwing lame accusations and thinking you’re intelligent for doing it. You aren’t.

It was a very entertaining movie, with laughs, drama, and a real plot.

The movie, and the ideals that it represents have since helped my wife and I get along much better. At one point, I was ready to file for divorce not too long ago, but this movie helped us to see each other differently, but also in my case for sure, it helped me to look at myself, and how I could be a better husband. I’m not sure how much this movie had to do with it, but our marriage has changed dramatically for the better.

I think this movie might be a good attempt at this. The fact that it has made so much money must have the leftists fit to be tied.

would you like to argue the proof I provided of this nitwit stating domesticated bananas as proof of god’s design? didn’t think so… you’ll just continue to call names… like most, although I will give Kirk the credit that he does not sink to your level. as delusional as he may be, he still has respect.

Kaptain Amerika on November 9, 2008 at 11:09 PM

I’ve already done that discussion in another thread with others who were not jerkoffs, so…no thanks. It’s off topic. You might try staying on topic for once.

Clearly, we shouldn’t be having sex with everything that moves and clearly, if you sign up for marriage or a committed unmarried partnership, you should adhere to your vows. But to demand MENTAL fidelity is just dumb,
DeathToMediaHacks on November 10, 2008 at 12:17 AM

I guess you think that the words of Christ are dumb, then, because He says in the Bible that to lust after a woman is adultery.

and I can’t really believe that our biologically induced urges are meant to be totally supressed.

Um, that’s a straw man argument. “Totally suppressed” isn’t true at all. You’re using hyperbole. Our biologically induced and God-given urges are supposed to be directed toward our wives. Since you are obviously and admittedly living in a state of fornication, you wouldn’t understand that anyway.

Again, how are you qualified to comment in this thread?

As far as internet porn.. A guy I knew was in a counseling because it was destroying his marriage. He summed it up for me like this.

“The porn was instant gratification to cover over and make myself feel better over the inability to express my heart to my wife..or anyone. Even when I had sex with my wife it was no more than using her for masturbation to the images I had viewed.”

The use of porn is sad because of the need for it. A man who loves his wife the way God intended will not need it. When a husband uses porn and fantasy, he is telling his wife, you alone are not enough to satisfy me.. you are lacking.

Our big question: can a theatrical film succeed in delivering a message while still entertaining its audience?

I was laid up in a hospital in St. Petersburg Russia for about 4 days. I was visiting when I thought I was having a stroke which turned out to be a migraine headache. Anyway, it was a private hospital which had hired an American to deal with American patients. This guy was an evangelical and, while a nice person, could be very cloying. Apparently he had managed to get the Hospital to have all but one channel in English be proselytizing born-again types. I grew to hate Kirk Cameron.

So no, I will not be going to see this movie. I even checked myself out of that place because i couldn’t take anymore.

If you think fundamentalist Christians don’t trust their spouses then I think you may have been taken in by the misinformation efforts of the hack media you seem to disdain. Who are you trying to convince?

Couple of things:
1. Well I’m not sure if I’m trying to convince anyone, I enjoy the spirited debate these kinds of forums allow. Wouldn’t it be kind of boring if everyone on here agreed all the time?

2. I understand more than I may be expressing here. I get the idea of trying to live your marriage as closely to the ideal vision your specific interpretation of the Bible tells you the ideal marriage looks like. That includes this notion of “adultery in the heart and mind” being equal to physical adultery. The more you invest in that notion, the more you probably understand a fantasy life (which someone quite rightly pointed out is NOT dependent on porn) as a threat to your marraige. Because it IS adultery.

3. I find that nortion so fundamentally flawed and so anti-human nature it’s hard for me to accept that the great Designer up there thinks that’s how things should go. If we’re going to believe that the development of human life was guided by a conscious hand (and I’m willing to believe that, there’s logic to it) don’t we also have to allow for the possibility that our bio-chemical makeup is equally determined by God? If so, that thing in our brains that encourages us to be fruitful and multiply, spread our seed/eggs, i.e. lust and desire are part of Gods plan.

Clearly, we shouldn’t be having sex with everything that moves and clearly, if you sign up for marriage or a committed unmarried partnership, you should adhere to your vows. But to demand MENTAL fidelity is just dumb, and I can’t really believe that our biologically induced urges are meant to be totally supressed. It’s a theological difference between me and the fundies. That’s all. Not a product of believing crazy things about the fundies that the hack media tells me.

Christina D on November 9, 2008 at 11:44 PM

I don’t understand how parents can allow their kids to have TVs or computers in their rooms, but I guess it’s very common.

I couldn’t imagine what the divorce rate would be if all Christian women harshly enforced the no pornography rule on their husbands that some are advocating here.

muyoso on November 9, 2008 at 7:52 PM

Uh, my church strictly enforces that rule (not sayin’ everyone who’s a member of my church doesn’t look at it, but all the members in good standing don’t, which is most) and our divorce rate is a much lower than the divorce rate of the general populous. We’re told to not keep computers in bedrooms and to keep them out in a main traffic area, which most of us do, and we’re all pretty happy and still married and don’t have husbands addicted to porn for the most part! Surprise!

Excellent, excellent, excellent!

Acting was better than I expected and the story was well done.

Hopefully, prayerfully, we’ve been through our worst already. Always good to have those reminders though about treating my better half better.

Definitely worth the date.

you’d think they could spare a few bucks to make something uplifting.

Dee2008 on November 9, 2008 at 7:03 PM

I thought the Bruce and Evan Almighty movies had some pretty solid values in them. Good movies, too.

yeah you’re another case in point… brilliant argument there… maybe you should be in his next movie…

Kaptain Amerika on November 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Wasn’t making an argument, but then again, neither were you. I was making a judgment, just like you. Only mine was correct, and yours was not.

Jerkoff.

fossten on November 9, 2008 at 10:16 PM

and you continue to prove me correct… Judge… arguments are judgments, and statements of belief… and you bring no ammunition to the fight. you are completely unarmed. would you like to try again? or should I wait for someone to change your underwear.
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would you like to argue the proof I provided of this nitwit stating domesticated bananas as proof of god’s design? didn’t think so… you’ll just continue to call names… like most, although I will give Kirk the credit that he does not sink to your level. as delusional as he may be, he still has respect.