Video: Tracking down Jones-Kelley

posted at 8:45 am on November 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Fox News tried to get Helen Jones-Kelley to speak on camera about the investigation into Joe Wurzelbacher, aka Joe the Plumber, but didn’t have much luck. She ran into a fire station to avoid a Fox camera crew, and apparently called the police department. Fox got her off camera refusing to answer questions, but only after the police chief himself told Fox to back off:

Jones-Kelley referred Fox to the Inspector General, who is conducting an investigation into her actions regarding the probe. She can’t comment in the middle of the investigation, for the simple reason of self-preservation. Anything she says substantively about her actions can get used against her.

It is somewhat amusing, though, to see the journalistic ambush deployed so effectively against Jones-Kelley. We’ve seen plenty of it from news broadcasters like 60 Minutes for less worthy targets.

Megyn Kelly, Lis Wiehl, and Bill O’Reilly have a panel discussion about the legal implications of the probes into Wurzelbacher.  Kelly doesn’t think laws were broken, while Wiehl offers a novel but perhaps correct interpretation of “misuse of public funds”.

I’m not a big O’Reilly fan, but he asks a great question here: Where is the ACLU?


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At least this thread isn’t about Sarah! Congrats.

Fuquay Steve on November 7, 2008 at 8:48 AM

And all because Joe simply asked Dear Leader a question. I guess we are no longer allowed to Question Authority.

rbj on November 7, 2008 at 8:48 AM

The American Criminal Liberals Union doesn’t give a rat’s fart about this, and in our new Obamanation, Jones-Kelley will be a hero. In fact, I’m sure that Obozo has the pardon all typed up on the extremely off-chance that criminal charges are filed.

CantCureStupid on November 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Expect more of this.
Not the journalistic ambush, but the investigation and defamation of anyone daring to question The One.

Disturb the Universe on November 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM

To all the wingnuts moaning about Bushitler tapping our phones and going through our library records… this is was an actual civil rights violation looks like.

It’s good to familiarize yourself now, ’cause there’ll be a lot more coming up.

How’s the investigation into Diantha Harris’ tax records going?

saint kansas on November 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM

I’m not a big O’Reilly fan, but he asks a great question here: Where is the ACLU?

The target of the government probing wasn’t a minority, gay, a transvestite, a terrorist, a Muslim, a terrorist Muslim, an atheist, or a liberal politician.

Therefore the ACLU had no time for these trifles.

Hawkins1701 on November 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Cockroaches also run when the spotlight is shined on them

grapeknutz on November 7, 2008 at 8:52 AM

ACLU? LOL!

Only if a Christian organization looked into Joe’s background.

Easydoesit on November 7, 2008 at 8:54 AM

The Obama security force needs to be released from Camp Obama in order to protect these law breakers that were assigned to take down the plumber, who asked too many questions.

Black Panthers with night sticks can at least be rushed to the fire house!

Hening on November 7, 2008 at 8:54 AM

I’m not a big O’Reilly fan, but he asks a great question here: Where is the ACLU?

Aren’t they all zombies now?

eforhan on November 7, 2008 at 8:55 AM

I wish someone would look up my files on a state computer so I could get a book deal and a manager. Maybe I could start a watchdog group, too!

She needs to be fired, yes. But it appears that Joe is a celebrity thanks to this woman.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Abuse of Power…

Remember these words as we enter into the Obama era.

Keemo on November 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Wow. Was the police chief actually suggesting that the reporter didn’t have the right to ask questions? “Not if she doesn’t want to speak with you.” Really chief? Reporters only have the right to ask questions of people who want to speak with them?

Good thing the left supports a free press otherwise this might look like intimidation by the state.

Amazing.

landshark on November 7, 2008 at 9:04 AM

OMT: That stupid classless person running & hiding will also be the same person who will be horribly disappointed with her messiah in the near future as she watches her personal world crumble around her.

Oh my, what are the Liberals going to do now that they won’t have any GW Bush to blame their failures on? Control of all (3) houses leaves no wiggle room.

Keemo on November 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM

They’ll never get her for anything. Any violation of the law will be covered and the corrupt local authorities will protect her. The “justice” system in this country is a farce and is controlled by political hacks.

rplat on November 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM

Above the Law…

Abuse of Power…

Dictatorship…

Government take over…

Liberals in complete control…

2009

Keemo on November 7, 2008 at 9:11 AM

She needs to be fired, yes. But it appears that Joe is a celebrity thanks to this woman.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM

it appears plausible that a crime was committed here. So should Joe be thanking her and others who pried into his personal life to propel him to stardom?

I wish someone would look up my files on a state computer so I could get a book deal and a manager. Maybe I could start a watchdog group, too!

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Well, you might try questioning a powerful liberal in public; that seems to have worked so why not follow the same model?

Red State State of Mind on November 7, 2008 at 9:13 AM

And don’t forget about that little schmuck who hacked into Palin’s email account. He’s going to get away with that.

The lefties were right. Civil rights and privacy is going to be taken away from us. But it’s their President is going to do it.

mjk on November 7, 2008 at 9:15 AM

Well, you might try questioning a powerful liberal in public; that seems to have worked so why not follow the same model?

Trust me, I’ve thought about it.

As I said, she needs to be fired and people need to be held accountable. But good ‘ol Joe there got a net benefit from this whole debacle. No denying it.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM

I disagree with Kelley. It’s one thing to use public systems available to the average citizen to do a search on Joe, and quite another thing to use state and federal systems set up for official use to do that search.

What we are finding out is that there was no official reason for the search, and hence the reason for it is private.

This is the identical situation to that which occurred at the State Department earlier this year, when passport records on Clinton, McCain, and Obama were accessed for private purposes not related to the official uses of the passport database. Misappropriation of government resources led to several firings at State, and, as I remember, the Obama campaign used the opportunity to tar President Bush as a weak leader.

Well, again, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. We now find that the State of Ohio has a weak leader, and possibly even weaker than that of the Federal government. Jones-Kelley is going to walk, while under Bush three federal employees lost their jobs. This will haunt Gov. Ted Strickland until he makes the sacrifice of his minion on the altar of political propriety.

Finally, it looks like there’s at least one police guy in Ohio doing his job — here in California, the paparazzi harass people without any law enforcement involvement whatsoever.

unclesmrgol on November 7, 2008 at 9:18 AM

She needs to be fired, yes. But it appears that Joe is a celebrity thanks to this woman.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Very big of you to admit she needs to be fired. But because she is a black woman and an O-Head no action will be taken against her.

Joe asked a very simple question dude. He didn’t ask to be a target or a celebrity.

His civil right were violated. Where is the outrage?

DeweyWins on November 7, 2008 at 9:18 AM

And if some Ohio state or county employee were to access the Ohio system and find “dirt” on Helen Jones-Kelley, the ACLU would be all over this invasion of “privacy.”

By any means necessary…the mantra of today’s Democrat Party.

coldwarrior on November 7, 2008 at 9:18 AM

How’s the investigation into Diantha Harris’ tax records going?

saint kansas on November 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM

If she’s paid on merit, I doubt if she has a high enough income to be taxed. It’s hard to imagine how we end up with teachers who butcher the English language and come across as less educated than her own elementary school students.

We might find a lot more dirt if they investigated her ties to the Black Panther Movement.

fogw on November 7, 2008 at 9:20 AM

As I said, she needs to be fired and people need to be held accountable. But good ‘ol Joe there got a net benefit from this whole debacle. No denying it.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM

is that Joe’s opinion? Or is it yours? Has he stated that he believes that he’s benefited more than suffered harm from the inquiries and the leaked personal information, the criticisms and the death threat? When someone is treated unfairly, that misdeed is bad whether the result, in our opinion, is a net positive or negative.

Red State State of Mind on November 7, 2008 at 9:20 AM

The Joe the plumber mechanics are just laying low for as long as it takes for interest to die down and then it’ll be business as usual and yes the Democrats are corrupt.

Who takes a stand for the majority decision? Nobody.
When a liberal agenda isn’t promoted, screw We the People!

Speakup on November 7, 2008 at 9:20 AM

What about holding the Obama whores in the mainstream media accountable?

A huge mistake after the 2004 election was not preparing for the left-wing media and their attempts to swing elections for the Democrats.

What’s going to be done about it this time? Nothing? Are people just going to forget and then in another 2 years or another 4 years it happens all over again?

There is a huge uneven political environment that is stacked against the Republicans. News, Movies, TV, Music, Internet, University/College campuses, etc.. all these spheres of influence heavily favor Democrats and Lefties.

How about a goal of bankrupting the NYT’s before the next election?

gumble on November 7, 2008 at 9:22 AM

gumble on November 7, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Amen brother! The MSM has lost any form of credibility they retained following their whoring themselves out for John Kerry in 2004. Much of the “train wreck a-coming” will be placed squarely on their shoulders!

Death to the MSM!
Complete rebuild of the GOP!
Name the Names!

Keemo on November 7, 2008 at 9:30 AM

If people are really going to go after this, and I think they should, they really have to get on point. O’Reilly said Ohio government went into Joe the Plumber’s records AFTER he started campaigning for McCain. Actually, they did it after he simply asked Obama a question at a ropeline that CAME TO HIM. As I recall, he had been taking kind of a neutral stance, refusing to say even who he would vote for citing the privacy of the voting booth. It was only after he was attacked and scrutinized that he began actively campaigning for McCain.

O’Reilly either doesn’t know this, or was sloppy in his presentation, but understanding this difference and making it widely known is crucial.

docob on November 7, 2008 at 9:31 AM

After the Carl Cameron hack job O’Reilly aired I’m pretty much done with him.

BadgerHawk on November 7, 2008 at 9:35 AM

She needs to be fired, yes. But it appears that Joe is a celebrity thanks to this woman.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Wrong. He is a celebrity due to the timeliness and clarity of his question, and more importantly Obama’s bungled/unintentionally revealing response, which were then made a centerpiece of a nationally broadcast debate between the candidates.

Jones-Kelly didn’t make him famous. She used his pre-existing fame as a pretext to abuse her position of power in an attempt to humiliate and discredit him.

docob on November 7, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Jobless Rate Soars

FOXBusiness: U.S. unemployment hits 14-high — as employers cut payrolls by 240,000 in October

Every small business owner I have talked with (I own a small business) in my area is talking about cutting back due to Obama’s own words regarding what he is going to demand from small business owners.

What about the illegal campaign contributions (hundreds of millions) taken in by Obama and his staffers? What laws apply here? Without strict enforcement of our laws, we have no Democracy!

Keemo on November 7, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Where’s the outrage? I’ve seen plenty of it here sine this story broke.

If Joe went ahead and got his plumbing license (or whatever it is) he’d have a ton of business. There are plenty of conservatives and pissed off citizens and folks that wanted his autograph on the campaign trail that would love to do business with him.

I think I’m officially done dissenting on Joe.

robblefarian on November 7, 2008 at 9:40 AM

Where is the ACLU? In the appeals courts, crusading for gay marriage.
“What? Some non-liberal may have been a victim of a civil rights violation? Ehhh. Sorry, we’re busy.”

whitetop on November 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM

I’m not a big O’Reilly fan, but he asks a great question here: Where is the ACLU?

The other notably absent voices are the “major” newspapers in the Ohio. Although the Columbus Dispatch seems to be covering the story and the Cleveland Plain Dealer had at least one article, I’m not aware that any of the came out with an editorial crucifying Jones-Kelley and others. So that includes, in addition to the two mentioned, the Toledo Blade, the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Akron paper.

What a sorry lot of newspaper.

BuckeyeSam on November 7, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Consider the double-standard: the media went bananas looking into Joe, then when the media, albeit O’Reilly, wants to look into the people who may have illegally looked into Joe, run away.

This is priceless.

Richard Romano on November 7, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Yeah right…..like ANYTHING will be done except congratulations. What happened to the kid who hacked Gov Palins Email? BTW did everyone notice that Obama has not gone to his Grandmothers funeral? And WHY do we insist on calling him black? He is biracial at best. I think we should refer to him as our 1/2 white president.

Illinois Grandma on November 7, 2008 at 9:58 AM

O will pardon her? He doesn’t know her, never heard of her.

She, like the short-paid staffers, did their job and are now of no use.

billypaintbrush on November 7, 2008 at 9:59 AM

BTW did everyone notice that Obama has not gone to his Grandmothers funeral?

Illinois Grandma on November 7, 2008 at 9:58 AM

Yes, I was thinking about it this morning. He has an interesting take on family relations.

sherry on November 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Yes, I hold the MSM in contempt. When I see a local TV van, I will look them in the eye, point my finger to the sky, and rotate.

deptofredundancydept on November 7, 2008 at 10:15 AM

Illinois Grandma on November 7, 2008 at 9:58 AM

To be fair to both races, technically, he is “half-rican-American.”

whitetop on November 7, 2008 at 10:18 AM

A REAL police chief would resign after being used in this way. He would admit that he himself has become a weak tool, and would search his soul to find out when he decided to stop being a MAN.

A MAN would have said, “yes ma’am I understand there’s media here, and I’ll keep an eye on you. If they touch you, I’ll arrest them. But I can’t stop them from speaking to you. No ma’am, that’s not my job.”

jeff_from_mpls on November 7, 2008 at 10:36 AM

And this positive note:

This encounter shows when you scratch the surface of a hard-core marxist thug, and there’s a helpless little wilting flower inside who knows she has done wrong and is terrified of facing the consequences.

We have the psychological advantage. We have confidence we are right. THEY DON’T.

jeff_from_mpls on November 7, 2008 at 10:41 AM

The second part of the segment, about CA possibly ruling a constitutional amendment unconstitutional, still has my head spinning.

The Monster on November 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM

whitetop @ 1010am
I read somewhere that african american only pertains to those who do not know their roots, as he is kenyan it does not apply….also the info was that the ones from kenya were the ones who sold their fellow africans into slavery!

Illinois Grandma on November 7, 2008 at 11:03 AM

I’m not a big O’Reilly fan, but he asks a great question here: Where is the ACLU?

The Executive Director of the Ohio ACLU is on the record saying the issue “raises questions.” It would be interesting for Joe the Plumber to formally ask them to intervene. If the ACLU does intervene, that’s free legal representation for Joe. If they refuse to help him — well that would raise a whole different set of questions.

As Tom Jackson points out, ACLU membership costs $20 bucks, which is the price of, like, 30 feet of schedule 40 PVC pipes at Home Depot. Probably worth a try.

factoid on November 7, 2008 at 11:12 AM

And WHY do we insist on calling him black? He is biracial at best. I think we should refer to him as our 1/2 white president.

Illinois Grandma on November 7, 2008 at 9:58 AM

He calls himself black. I think that’s quite enough. We determine, ourselves, which ethnicity or race out of our personal melting pots we choose to assert. Short sighted, but true. If he’d called himself white, you’d probably be saying he must call himself black. Them’s rotton apples.

To put it bluntly, his race doesn’t matter, but his politics and actions do matter. I would recommend that you cease this kind of speech, because it is not the sort of mustard seed which will grow well here.

unclesmrgol on November 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM

One law for me, another for thee. If there was any justice, Jones-Kelly would be going to jail, straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

But, she’ll get a pass.

I do like the idea of Joe joining the American Communist liberties Union and exposing them for the hypocrites they are.

chris

bullseye on November 7, 2008 at 11:22 AM

1st Amendment: “the right to petition your government with greivances”

Ok. Which one is next?

kurtzz3 on November 7, 2008 at 12:07 PM

A REAL police chief would resign after being used in this way. He would admit that he himself has become a weak tool, and would search his soul to find out when he decided to stop being a MAN.

A MAN would have said, “yes ma’am I understand there’s media here, and I’ll keep an eye on you. If they touch you, I’ll arrest them. But I can’t stop them from speaking to you. No ma’am, that’s not my job.”

jeff_from_mpls

Like most public employees, police chiefs are usually members of public employees’ unions and predictably tilt towards the Democrats.

Here in the Detroit area, one of the suburban police departments worked hard to unseat their mayor and replace her with the PD’s hand picked friend (who will have the job of negotiating a contract with the PD – nothing to see here, move it along). When a local tv news crew looked into it and discovered prima facie evidence of violations of laws concerning campaign finance and use of public facilities for political purposes the police chief smirked to the camera about being “innocent until proven guilty”.

At least the police chief in Sons Of Anarchy on FX admits he’s corrupt.

rokemronnie on November 7, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Kelly doesn’t think laws were broken, while Wiehl offers a novel but perhaps correct interpretation of “misuse of public funds”

Not only was it an abuse of funds it was an abuse of power, it was an abuse of individual privacy, and it was obviously politically motivated! IMHO what was done was illegal!

Good question…where is the ACLU on this?

If a minority were the target and the person conducting/ordering the checks was white the ACLU would be all over them to destroy them in court and the howls from the left would be deafening!!

Liberty or Death on November 7, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Screw Fox News. I’m done watching them after the Palin smear.

thebronze on November 7, 2008 at 2:07 PM

“She can’t comment in the middle of the investigation, for the simple reason of self-preservation. Anything she says substantively about her actions can get used against her”

Aww, Anything she says can get used against her,
What a spinless gutless p….. Moron!

She sure didn’t have a problem using her office to dig up AND put out to the press what ever she could find on Joe.

Tax
BMV (DMV)
Divorce records and child custody (a case that isn’t even in Ohio!! I bet if someone checks they will find Arizona’s computers were searched as well)
This “bogus” doc was used to slime Joe.
Notice the heading is Ohio, but the zip codes where folks live is in Arizona.

http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedockets/DocketDR.aspx?STYPE=1&PAR=DR19970476&STARTDATE=01/01/1900&ENDDATE=01/01/2100&PARTY=D,1

Why should she be given MORE rights and respect than she was unwilling to give Joe!

I want to know why, immediately after the debate she rushed to her office to dig stuff up for the Oct 16 news day!

AND since when does the CHIEF OF POLICE run block for a PUBLIC SERVANT!
Blocking questions about what this PUBLIC SERVANT did on the PUBLIC DIME!

Who is this CHIEF OF POLICE?
Is he also involved with this crime?

DSchoen on November 7, 2008 at 4:28 PM

“One law for me, another for thee. If there was any justice, Jones-Kelly would be going to jail, straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars”

Or at lest on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.
“Usually, an employee is placed on administrative leave when a constituent (student, parent, patient, suspect, victim, etc.) makes an allegation of misconduct against them. Many institutions choose to remove the employee from the situation while investigating such allegations.”

DSchoen on November 7, 2008 at 4:40 PM

“He calls himself black. I think that’s quite enough”

Yet some guy likes to be called by their middle name and their lying trash!

DSchoen on November 7, 2008 at 4:42 PM

“O’Reilly said Ohio government went into Joe the Plumber’s records AFTER he started campaigning for McCain”
It’s called a time line, along with commonsense.

Jones-Kelley said she authorized the search “immediately” AFTER the 3rd debate

The debate ended at 9:30 Central time, Oct 15 2008.
The results of her “search” along with many interviews with folks that have a beef with Joe were in the press by 9:00 AM Central time, Oct 16 2008.

That’s ONE BUSY NIGHT for a government employee and the news media or they’re lying, and the “investigation” along with the interviews days before the debate.

DSchoen on November 7, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Breaking: Jones-Kelley put on leave by Ohio governor, pending an investigation of the “Joe the Plumber” records search:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/11/07/director_relieved.html?sid=101

Justice. (Unfortunately, it’s paid leave, but we’ll take what we can get …)

GoHskrs on November 7, 2008 at 5:40 PM