Palin on the leakers: “Those guys are jerks”

posted at 8:50 pm on November 7, 2008 by Allahpundit

First day back at work for the ‘Cuda, and it wasn’t uneventful. I’m giving you two versions, the nitty gritty 90-second hit from CNN and the extended director’s cut from MSNBC. No names are named, but the hint she drops about the NAFTA smear probably having come from one of her debate preppers is as heavy as a barbell. Who was in charge of prepping her? Among others, according to Fox News: Randy Scheunemann, her chief defender, as well as … Steve Schmidt and Mark Wallace, husband of Nicolle. Hmmmm.

The MSNBC clip heats up starting at around 1:45; apparently, she and McCain have been chatting about this. Exit quotation: “I never asked for anything more than maybe a Diet Dr. Pepper every once in awhile.”

Update: Ambinder on the Romney rumors:

As one of the first reporters to sense these ill-winds, I don’t see an organized conspiracy. The first people with whom I spoke had no connection to Romney’s campaign whatsoever — they were longtime McCain advisers and aides… so…they didn’t much like Mitt Romney. When Palin was first selected, of the five Romney aides/advisers I remember contacting, three had positive impressions and two had mixed impressions.

Now, as the campaign progressed, there were people who can be fairly described as being Romney advisers who began to criticize Palin and pass along what their Republican friends were telling them. But so did consultants, strategists and activists representing every potential 2012 candidate. And other Romney advisers continued to praise her.

Who ordered the hit on Palin? Everyone, apparently.

Update: The MSNBC clip’s long but worth watching, especially the part about double standards for women candidates.



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I saw the chart on Powerline. It was interesting. We need to shrink Government way down. Don’t know if anyone could be like Reagan. He was one of a kind. Government is being shoved down our throats. When I was younger it wasn’t like this. You can’t even punish your kid without being scared they will call the cops. Now it seems you can’t say how you feel. Or have a talk radio show without it being porn. Crazy We need to shorten a lot of Government waste.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Were our Founders not elite?
haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Some were some were not.

And the man who didn’t go to college should only be respected because he did do great things, not because he didn’t go to college/Harvard.
You are wrong here. A man should be respected because he is a man. Not for what he did or did not do. A man that does not go to college is just as deserving of your respect regardless of what he acomplished in his life as long as he lived his live with class and generoristy. Great men are not a sum of their deeds. great men are a sum of their character.

Sarah Palin’s poor performance in her Couric interview should not be dismissed so lightly

Wrong again. Her poor performance can be taken lightly because it was the exception not the rule. All of Palins’ accomplishments, all of her deeds done in ALsaka, her performance at the convention, her acceptenace speech, her campaign performace on the trial, her debate performace says that the CBS interview was the exception not the rule. You inability to see the forest because of the one tree shows you might need to go back to get some more of that great education you keep talking about.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Bush has been a dismal president and has dealt a massive blow to the Republican Party. If it weren’t for the WOT he wouldn’t have had a second term and his popularity would be even lower than it is.

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Republicans who voted for him and then refused to support him when he was right are dismal failures. The Republican Party has dealt a massive blow to itself.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Finally got through all of the second video. The Governor is a force to be reckoned with. In four years, she’ll be more than ready to go to the big dance.

baldilocks on November 8, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Sarah Palin’s poor performance in her Couric interview should not be dismissed so lightly as her “being one of us.” Challenging mediocrity is not inherently elitist. It is the means that individuals and countries become better. Putting aside the identity politics, has Sarah Palin really earned the adoration of her supporters? Has she proven herself to be a first-rate mind? Has she exhibited a broad and thorough understanding of global issues relevant to leading our country into the 21st century? Or is she instead a pretty average mind of limited curiosity about the world, but with some good values and convictions?

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

She is smarter than you are

bluejacket on November 8, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 12:46 AM

good point except for one little thing. The veto. Not one Veto in 6 years. Everything Congress did Bush approved of it. He never stood and said no more. Enough is enough. Never not once. He aided the growth.

I do not blame Bush for everything. I blame Bush for the death of Reagan conservatism. And the lose of the majority that that effort caused.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:50 AM

baldilocks on November 8, 2008 at 12:49 AM

That may be. I’m no so sure about that. One thing I do think is that whoever is going to throw their hat in the ring better get some web savvy people on their team now. Obama used it to great advantage for fundraising.

Bradky on November 8, 2008 at 12:51 AM

I did several google searchs on that.

Do you have a link?

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 12:45 AMI did several google http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/scotus-souter-t.html

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 12:51 AM

She could beat Obama in a debate if she could be herself.

bluejacket on November 8, 2008 at 12:52 AM

In the MSNBC clip it sounded like she’s planning to do some of those national interviews she’s been offered. To which I say: avoid Oprah, Barbara Walters, and anyone else in the MSM like the plague Sarah! Talk to Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. Matt Lauer, et al. just want to rehash the backbiting and your mistakes. Tell them to go to hell. If you do decide to do interviews with them: insist that they come to you, take them up to see ANWR, then leave them on the tundra.

meltenn on November 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM

Yes. Have them accompany her to ANWR so they can see what a pristine piece of nothing is out there.

Imagine Oprah hobbling around with that wide back end of hers. Somebody would mistake her for a moose and shoot.

Sapwolf on November 8, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Floating Rock:

No, Bush has had the misfortune to have to deal with a lot of difficult problems together with an ingrate party.

If people think that Bush hurt the party by fighting the war on Terror, what do they think would have happened if he had refused to respond to the financial meltdown?

Let’s say he decided that it was not government’s place to intervene and just let the chips fall where they may? The same people blaming him for dealing with the problem would be blaming him for not dealing with the problem. After all, it is not their decision to make. They can complain with impunity and they will.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Oh, I didn’t know we had another general blogging here. What would you have done differently?
hawkdriver on November 8

Sent more troops in the first place. Afganistian was fought well for what we wanted to accomplish. we did not want to get bogged down I understand that. Iraq was a problem when turkey refused our entry form their country.

You always need to be able to secure the peace.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM

No, don’t blame this on one man.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 12:44 AM

One man with a mighty veto pen.

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM

don’t know if it’s been pointed out, the “bathrobe” has morphed to “a towel”.

Marcus on November 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM

By Monday it will be an ovenmitten.

Sapwolf on November 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM

I do not blame Bush for everything. I blame Bush for the death of Reagan conservatism. And the lose of the majority that that effort caused.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:50 AM

I reluctantly agree to (a certain extent) when you frame it like that. Still, I wonder, (opinion only) I wonder if he thought that if we were and more importantly his own majority congress was behind him, would he have acted differently on some legislations?

And I don’t see any way around establishing HLS after 9-11. I guess we’ll have to disagree at the magnitude.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM

She is smarter than you are

bluejacket on November 8, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Is she smarter than you too?
What a lemming you sound like.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:56 AM

I thought Bush was a good President. Sure his grammar wasn’t that great. But he did keep us safe for 8 years. Yes, he did do a lot of Homeland Security and some Patriot Act things, the wire tappings. But what more do some want? Was a tad over board. But with who we are going to have. He isn’t in office yet and I am scared all the time. If the greedy Congress quit taking pork when Bush needed money for Iraq. And if Congress would have agreed to regulate the Housing, Wall Street. We would probably not be in such a awful mess. And here it is real bad now. Unemployment so high, Car companies needing money, People cannot pay their mortgages, Utilities, and they are not even working on anything for us. Greedy Pelosi said yesterday that they are in need of more money. She didn’t mention the People are in need.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 12:54 AM

I thought the bailout was good at first. until I saw what Congress did, how long it took and the power it gave to one man. there were other free market ways to fix the problems besides throwing $850 billion at it. If your party is running against a socialist it kind of hurts your arguements about socialism when you just natinalized the banks.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:58 AM

You always need to be able to secure the peace.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM

Was there. It was. I was always able to go anywhere I wanted in the North near Kirkuk, Erbil, SoriRash and not even wear body armor, since the country fell. In the South, it was initially like that. The war turned with the news from home. Thats a fact that anyone on the ground saw there.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 12:58 AM

But he did keep us safe for 8 years

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM

You forgot 9/11/01 in those 8 years.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM

unseen:

Yea, but that Congress was supposedly the Contract with America Congress. Time and again I hear that Bush has let down conservatives and yet that Congress was full of conservative Republicans who had no problem spending money.

After 9/11 people wanted that Commission, Bush originally did not and was pressured by both parties to do it. Just like he was pressured by both parties to go ahead and create the Homeland Security Department. Just like he was pressured by both parties to go after the terrorists. Just like he was pressured by both parties to cut taxes and stimulate the economy after a trillion dollar loss due to 9/11. Bush did not do any of these things without the input of Congress and the American people and his popularity did not suffer until the war got difficult. And Katrina hit.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM

And I don’t see any way around establishing HLS after 9-11. I guess we’ll have to disagree at the magnitude.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM

How about having personal responsibility form his heads of the CIA, FBI, NSa. He should have had heads roll, and a shake out of those depts. to make them leaner, fighting machines. to cast off the deadwood.

That positive action would have went a long way to silencing the dems that were calling for a new dept.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 1:00 AM

Is she smarter than you too?
What a lemming you sound like.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:56 AM

Yes

bluejacket on November 8, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Republicans who voted for him and then refused to support him when he was right are dismal failures. The Republican Party has dealt a massive blow to itself.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Please provide an example of an issue in which Bush was right but not supported by his base.

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 1:01 AM

I admire Bush’s integrity and his courage. I think his heart and his instincts were in the right place much of the time, with several notable exceptions. My main gripe with Bush is that he is a poor communicator. He so rarely took his case to the people and almost never went to bat for his own policies and decisions. There were many, many times when I was frustrated beyond measure because I understood perfectly why he did things, but almost no one else outside the righty blogosphere seemed to get it. The masses listened to the media who crucified Bush at every turn. Bush just let the media go wild and speculate and opine without any correction or push-back from him on way too many occasions. He could have sold his policies SO EASILY several times and just simply didn’t try. Even Tony Snow was hobbled by the limitations of the President’s very limited day-to-day messaging.

aero on November 8, 2008 at 1:01 AM

But he did keep us safe for 8 years

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM

You forgot 9/11/01 in those 8 years.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM

haner, are you nitpicking because sheebe should’ve said “7″ years and not “8″?…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:01 AM

How do you guys unplug from this? I’m obsessed and I don’t care for it. Yet I don’t want to miss anything. Thank God I’m self employed and have time during the day to obsess. Seriously, how do I find the balance between informed and obsessed?

FinallyRight on November 7, 2008 at 11:33 PM

I do other stuff while I’m posting. Art work!

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:02 AM

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM

the contract ended the day Newt resigned and clinton left.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 1:02 AM

Sarah Palin’s poor performance in her Couric interview should not be dismissed so lightly as her “being one of us.” Challenging mediocrity is not inherently elitist. It is the means that individuals and countries become better. Putting aside the identity politics, has Sarah Palin really earned the adoration of her supporters? Has she proven herself to be a first-rate mind? Has she exhibited a broad and thorough understanding of global issues relevant to leading our country into the 21st century? Or is she instead a pretty average mind of limited curiosity about the world, but with some good values and convictions?

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Couric is a washed up Liberal. And secondly, they edited the crap out of the tape. Couric has a lot of hate towards Palin. Women in positions as Couric thinks she is in get vengeful. I know, I am a woman. She is very intelligent. Try not to think of the Couric interview. That wasn’t right what they did. They sabotaged her on purpose. And yes, she does have good values and convictions. Hope I don’t sound sarcastic, not meaning too.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:02 AM

haner:

No one forgot 9/11 except maybe the people who have moved on. Bush had been president for 9 months when that attack occurred. So far there has not been a repeat.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 1:03 AM

Carl Cameron is a reporter. His job is to go find a story and REPORT IT. That’s what reporters do. The problem is that THIS story is not what the ultra-hard right wing wanted to hear and they can’t believe that it’s coming from a network that “leans to the right”

DcMike2K on November 7, 2008 at 9:36 PM

No. Cameron’s job is not to spread lies. The stories on Obama were true. He did work with Ayers for many years, along with being in Wright’s church for 20 years. These are true and nobody can refute it.

Unlike the other networks, Fox is the closest thing to fair and balanced out there. Cameron should have at least talked directly with the actual leakers, even if maybe they didn’t want their names used.

The rumors of course are not true. But, I am now beginning to believe in a possibility that there were no leakers at all. Campaigns have people of different opinions and discussions on tactics/strategy can get heated.

However, I am also signed up at RedState’s Leper site too.

If the leakers exist, it is our job to out them so that this unprofessional lying behavior is not tolerated in either partys’ campaigns.

Sapwolf on November 8, 2008 at 1:04 AM

But he did keep us safe for 8 years

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM

You forgot 9/11/01 in those 8 years.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM

haner, are you nitpicking because sheebe should’ve said “7″ years and not “8″?…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:01 AM

oops I apologize if I did a error. Am blond tonight. Is Friday, and am happy for the weekend.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:04 AM

Finally got through all of the second video. The Governor is a force to be reckoned with. In four years, she’ll be more than ready to go to the big dance.

baldilocks on November 8, 2008 at 12:49 AM

I think there are elements in the party that fear this . . . which may in fact be the real motivation for these attacks on her.

- The Cat

MirCat on November 8, 2008 at 1:05 AM

The war turned with the news from home. Thats a fact that anyone on the ground saw there.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 12:58 AM

No arguement form me on that one. when you have reid saying the war is lost its hard to win. yet the battle plan from my understanding was to leave the borders open so that the terroists and jihadist would stream into the country and we could fight them there. which was working ok until the terrorist tried to turn the Iraqies agains tthemselves. At that time we did not hav eenough troops to patrol the borders, stamp down the violience, and hunt the terroists.

We should hav ehad more troops if for no other reason than to secure all the weapons stockpiles.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 1:06 AM

haner, are you nitpicking because sheebe should’ve said “7″ years and not “8″?…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Heh, pretty much. I was disappointed by the state of our intelligence agencies, though the blame for that mostly lies with Clinton. Even so, Bush didn’t do much of anything the first 9 months of his presidency either.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:06 AM

You forgot 9/11/01 in those 8 years.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM

How’d your boy Clinton do?

World Trade 1 (1993)
Saudi Arabian Attack killed 5 US Military (1995)
Al-Kobar Towers (1996)
African Embassies (1998)
US Cole (2000)

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:06 AM

well enough for the night. Good discussion.

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM

Were our Founders not elite? There’s a huge difference between elitism and being an elite, and I think some people miss that distinction.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

No, I don’t believed our Founders were elitist. However, you are missing the point of why Palin is being criticized for the loss of the election. As appose to McCain being criticized for running a bad campaign.

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM

haner, how old are you? Not picking on you. Of course I wouldn’t forgot 9/11, but even though I didn’t actually write it, I did mean it. Am sorry if you were upset. I will never forget 9/11

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:04 AM

Not a problem for me, sheebe. I was trying to determine whether haner was getting on you for a typo or if he/she/it was trying to imply something more.

I hope you have a happy, blond wknd…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM

Has she exhibited a broad and thorough understanding of global issues relevant to leading our country into the 21st century?

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

She doesn’t have to impress dumbasses like you. She does her job every day and is privy to information that would make you hide under your bed with your pants full of crap and sucking your thumb.

csdeven on November 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM

It was a distraction for Obama on the campaign trail true a small one but it was one. why would he not just produce one and get rid of the distraction if able. that is what doesn’t make sense to me. It is such an easy thing to deal with and settle yet Obama consistently fails to put it to bed.

Why is that?

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 12:32 AM

Off topic, but I agree. Why pay a team of lawyers to fight a court battle when producing one document free of charge settles the matter once and for all?

I can’t get my head around it. But then I understand how our courts can work. Truth being in the eye of the beholder and all.

Obama told Ried “no” when he asked for money to increase the Senate with Democrats, which could have given a President Obama cloture and free reign to allow Obama to run amuck with his Presidency.

But… Obama hires and pays a team of lawyers to fight a court battle that can be settled without paying anything by producing a single document any Hawaiin citizen can get.

It just doesn’t add up. Alienate the Senate Majority Leader by refusing to give him money, but pay to fight a court battle that can be settled without lawyers?

It stinks and Obama is hiding something. It’s his birth certificate, so I say he is hiding his birth place.

For the record, Oswald killed JFK, terrorists did 9-11 and it was not a inside job, and FDR didn’t allow Pearl Harbor to happen to draw us into WWII.

Can I know just please see Obama’s orignal birth certificate?

Hog Wild on November 8, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Sarah Palin’s poor performance in her Couric interview should not be dismissed so lightly as her “being one of us.”

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Judging Palin on the Couric interview is nonsense.

I would love to see her in ANY interview with ANY interviewer when she is not under the constraints of McCain’s campaign strategy while simultaneously facing a hostile press that was racing to define her before the country got to know her.

Making all this fuss about the Couric interview is like shooting at a tiger in a cage and exclaiming that you just went on safari.

Saltysam on November 8, 2008 at 1:10 AM

“now’ not know

Hog Wild on November 8, 2008 at 1:11 AM

I guess you missed the victory celebration at Grant Park in Chicago. That wasn’t a small gathering at the local 7-11. There was probably over a million people there so I think he can inspire a few people

DcMike2K on November 7, 2008 at 10:03 PM

We meant the viciousness of the MSM. They were soft on Obama and protected him, but were downright medieval on Palin. Both of them inspire people.

Sapwolf on November 8, 2008 at 1:11 AM

which may are in fact be the real motivation for these attacks on her.

- The Cat

MirCat on November 8, 2008 at 1:05 AM

C’Mon.

Saltysam on November 8, 2008 at 1:12 AM

ok, haner, just checking…

just remember back a few yrs. Bush didn’t have his full cabinet until March or so due to the Gore/Florida deal. And, while he did keep in place the heads of the various “intelligence’ agencies that he inherited from the Clinton admin. we found out how much the CIA/FBI et al talked with each, thanks to great legal work by the likes of Jamie Gorlick and friends.

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:14 AM

unseen on November 8, 2008 at 1:06 AM

I only know the missions I did.

We flew to the Syrian Border to take experts to evaluate avenues of entry and other from my MF did the same on the Iranian border. It would tell me we either were trying to seal them or know where to hit them when they came.

But the news never told of the great things that were going on even before the surge. IEDs slowed down to almost nothing because of our attack battalion that was in Iraq while we were in Afghanistan. They were given one mission of raining down 30mm hell on prep or plant teams 24/7. It got to where they couldn’t pay those guys enough to do IED work. We credit them with several hundred engagements of just those missions and in excess of a thousand EKIA. But the press only wanted to report when they managed to fire one off and kill our soldiers. We’d listen to Chris Matthews not be able to get a sentence about Iraq out without saying quagmire and we’d ask ourselves, is he talking about a quagmire for AI forces?

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:16 AM

I guess you missed the victory celebration at Grant Park in Chicago. That wasn’t a small gathering at the local 7-11. There was probably over a million people there so I think he can inspire a few people

DcMike2K on November 7, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Inspiration isn’t the problem…it’s how many of the “million people” have no idea what he he will “inspire” them to do next. I’ve said it before – how many of his followers checked his and Biden’s box so they could be part of this “historic election”. And so they were…now what.

FinallyRight on November 8, 2008 at 1:17 AM

Couric interview

haner on November 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Couric, is an uber elitist. Just like those blueblood nitwit beltway republicans that play that same game. Quite frankly, I’m sick of the media to the point of ridiculing the MSM to joyous glee at their dwindling viewer and readership. So we know the difference between the two.

I hope she will be back. Nay, I pray she will be back.

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:19 AM

Hog Wild,

What does your name reference?

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:20 AM

That wasn’t a small gathering at the local 7-11

Joe Biden said they couldn’t come because they talked funny.

Oh he won a vote there!

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:20 AM

I have to say that Hot Air and other personalities are making to much of this and turning the back biting into a soap opera. I don’t think McCain or Palin have anything to do with this but ideological hangers on are feeding this and keeping it going.

Malkin and others should be concentrating on other issues. Hot Air is focusing on this high school bitch fight while most Americans have moved on and are concentrating on more pressing issues which deserve more attention.

End the BS. Please.

lexhamfox on November 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM

How’d your boy Clinton do?

World Trade 1 (1993)
Saudi Arabian Attack killed 5 US Military (1995)
Al-Kobar Towers (1996)
African Embassies (1998)
US Cole (2000)

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:06 AM

Hey, I despise Clinton and you don’t need to remind me. This isn’t some pissing match of my Daddy has a bigger car than yours. I have been a conservative forever, but am not a fan of Palin nor really of Bush for the same reasons (the inability to articulate conservatism effectively in an inclusive way and an unfortunate tendency to be estranged with the media).

I just want a candidate for personal responsibility, for fiscal responsibility, and has a sense of the future demographics of this country so that he/she can work to make the party more inclusive and not more insular. I want a Republican candidate who can talk intelligently without inhibitions and doesn’t reveal obvious lacunae in his/her knowledge base.

Is that so much to ask? Am I a Clinton-loving, Obama-worshipping socialist for asking?

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM

OK. I am backing away from the keyboard. Slowly. I will turn off the monitor and not check in until I’ve gotten sleep. Can’t log off entirely – my husband is overseas and I live for IM. Can I safely assume that The One will not be doing anything fascinatingly assinine between the hours of 2am and 7am? I can’t handle the backlog!

FinallyRight on November 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:04 AM

Not a problem for me, sheebe. I was trying to determine whether haner was getting on you for a typo or if he/she/it was trying to imply something more.

I hope you have a happy, blond wknd…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM

LOL is cool, I just don’t like being a bitch. And Trailboss whipped the truth on me the other night He was right, and I promised him I would be nicer. Guess the anger of the election made me start taking it out on others. (trolls)

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:26 AM

I got to tell you the people in Grant Park did not leave me feeling inspired, the whole thing kind of creeped me out.

Like a freaky combination of a Hezbellah protest in Lebanon and a big turnout for the Pope.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 1:26 AM

All this elitist-bashing is actually damaging the Republican Party’s brand, especially among young achievers and the professional class.

haner on November 7, 2008 at 11:41 PM

The bashing did not start from the base against the party elite. The party elite started it by ignoring the base.

You know, the countryclubbers CANNOT win an election at the national level. They are a minority within the Republican Party. All the parts of the party need to work together to team up and win nationally. It doesn’t help when the eastern elites, cocooned in a very narrow world, fail to get the views of the country from other parts of the party.

Sapwolf on November 8, 2008 at 1:26 AM

haner:

I would have to say that one thing I would not call Obama is responsible. I have never seen that in him. He seems a bit slick to me.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 1:28 AM

The past week has been rife with the news media taking whatever swipe they can at the current most visible conservative standard-bearer, our beloved Veep candidate, Sarah Palin.

I have two reason for commenting on this issue. First, anyone who doubts that Sarah Palin helped the McCain campaign either was asleep for the last 9 weeks or is flat out lying through their pointed yellowish teeth. Second, where in the heck is John McCain on this issue? Mr. McCain need to get out in public somewhere mui pronto and defend his former running mate. By now, its known amongst those paying attention that the barrage of slanderous garbage hurled at Gov. Palin is largely just innuendo and outright lies. That doesn’t change the fact that the media is still running with these items as if they were true and that it is incumbent upon Senator McCain to refute them.

I will add myself to the people that voted for McCain only because of Sarah. Not to mention the dozen others in my circle that I harassed until they did and the countless others they harassed on account of my harassing and the 5 bazillion people I forwarded blog posts from my own blog which I never would have written if not for Sarah and from other blogs I never would have read if not for Sarah and so on.. Get the picture? My memory is quite good and I remember McCain dead in the water pre-Palin. I don’t think he would have had anywhere near the showing he had without her.. Just think of the masses of people coming out to see them both once she got the base back into the campaign.

I despise RINOS.. Go back and read every post I ever made and half of them are me complaining about RINOS messing up our party and by extension, the country. Go back and ask the four million NRCC and RNC people that called me looking for money what I told them before Sarah was on board. I told them “HECK NO, I AM TIRED OF RINOS IN MY PARTY, YOU WILL NOT GET ANOTHER DIME FROM ME UNTIL THERE IS A CONSERVATIVE ON THE TICKET!!” Speaking of which, I, and many others flooded the GOP coffers with dough the day after the convention. I have not regretted Sarah’s involvement one iota.

Finally, let me also say to Mr. McCain that if not for Gov. Palin, I would still despise your sorry RINO ass. However, because of her, I got to know you and your history that much better and while I still disagree whole-heartedly with your lame RINO ways, I was proud to cast my vote for you.

Its about time you stood up and defended your running mate against the tools who are helping the media in their efforts to destroy her now so they don’t have to deal with her re-emerging in 2012.

RobertCSampson on November 8, 2008 at 1:32 AM

The backbiting between Palin and McCain hangers on is absurd and the time and space given to this high school food fight by Hot Air is pathetic. How many posting are given over to this redundant issue while the rest of the world has moved on to more pressing things… why does Michelle Malkin get involved at all… sad.

Palin and McCain are both decent people and this is not between them as much as certain people would want us to think.

Enough.

lexhamfox on November 8, 2008 at 1:32 AM

He seems a bit slick to me.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 1:28 AM

He wasn’t born, he was invented.

That’s probably why he can’t produced a birth certificate.

(I should point out I’m not one that is caught up in the birth certificate conspiracy—just making a joke.)

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 1:33 AM

FinallyRight on November 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM

nighty night! ;)

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:34 AM

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM

Easy Francis, put down the gun. I apologize. From your posts bashing Governor Palin and my CinC I assumed poorly.

I guess we would just disagree that even though he was more liberal than we thought, I don’t think he was as bad as the image portrays. And I guess we’d disagree on the opinion I have that Palin has great potential. I love them both, really. Yep, wished he were more of a true conservative, but he led great. If you wanted to see who had a great opinion of his leadership skills, you should have been around him when he was with the troops. As late as All American week this last summer at Ft Bragg. The troops loved him.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:35 AM

RobertCSampson on November 8, 2008 at 1:32 AM

Dittos, every word.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:36 AM

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:28 AM

Thank you hawkdriver, I will miss him too.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:37 AM

FloatingRock,

Oh, BHO was invented alright…he’s a caricature of a candidate to his followers who cared about style over substance without regard to the consequences to our Country.

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:38 AM

I have been a conservative forever, but am not a fan of Palin nor really of Bush for the same reasons (the inability to articulate conservatism effectively in an inclusive way and an unfortunate tendency to be estranged with the media).

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM

There are vast differences between Palin and Bush and close similarities.

The difference is Palin is a Conservative. Her record shows that.
Please articulate how Palin hasn’t done that. For that matter, name one other that has demonstrated that. Besides Jim Inhofe.

Bush is not a conservative. His record clearly shows that.

The similarities are love of country and decency.

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:38 AM

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 1:33 AM

Whether its true or not, its a source of comedy gold. If they weren’t so in the tank for him, there is an almost endless amount of late night talk show jokes to get out of it.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Congressman Tancredo, is going to Washington to demand that they do something about illegal aliens. He is very mad about it. I hope he gets fire up their tails. It will get to where citizens will start ridding them. Something must be done.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:39 AM

It is the center that drives American Presidential elections. Not the fringes of either wing. This debate reminds me of the fictitious feud between Jewish factions in the Life of Brian.

lexhamfox on November 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM

FloatingRock,

Oh, BHO was invented alright…he’s a caricature of a candidate to his followers who cared about style over substance without regard to the consequences to our Country.

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Exactly! they sold us out. For their own selfishness. BHO was a HollyWood product. Produced by Oprah, and a lot of others. Media must have been paid big bucks too. Seems like Fox News is kind of being one sided now too.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:41 AM

I would have to say that one thing I would not call Obama is responsible. I have never seen that in him. He seems a bit slick to me.

Terrye on November 8, 2008 at 1:28 AM

Never said nor implied Obama was responsible. The guy threw his own grandma under the bus for crying out loud.

But can we please have a real fiscal conservative on the Republican ticket for 2012? Pretty please? Can we stop putting our heads in the sand and pretend illegal immigration is not a problem? Can we once again be the party of bold ideas rather than be obsessed on this tiresome tactical pissing contest with the Democrats?

And what happened to Live Free or Die?

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:44 AM

I thought I was mad after McCain lost the election. Now I am furious. The crap they keep dishing out on Palin is disgusting. What has happened to the GOP?

outerwear on November 8, 2008 at 1:44 AM

Its about time you stood up and defended your running mate against the tools who are helping the media in their efforts to destroy her now so they don’t have to deal with her re-emerging in 2012.

RobertCSampson on November 8, 2008 at 1:32 AM

Well said sir, well said!

But that’s not McCain. He wants everybody to like him.

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:45 AM

Exactly! they sold us out. For their own selfishness. BHO was a HollyWood product. Produced by Oprah, and a lot of others. Media must have been paid big bucks too. Seems like Fox News is kind of being one sided now too.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:41 AM

To me, Obama is like the music from Paul McCartney and Wings. The lyrics don’t mean a damn thing but he is fun to listen to.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:45 AM

LISTEN?!?!

I guess that at some point I will have to stop pressing the mute button on my remote when he comes on the tee vee…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM

And what happened to Live Free or Die?

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:44 AM

New Hampshire, went blue long, long ago.

Seriously, I agree with what you’re saying.
So, I ask you, how is Palin not like what you and I are asking for?

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:49 AM

LISTEN?!?!

I guess that at some point I will have to stop pressing the mute button on my remote when he comes on the tee vee…

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM

Great, Someone didn’t hear Dear Leader and now we’ll have to start the campaign all over.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:50 AM

I mute mine too. I just cannot stomach it when he talks. The hair on my arms stand up. But, today, I did listen to him on the radio. His press conference. I survived.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 1:51 AM

Seriously, I agree with what you’re saying.
So, I ask you, how is Palin not like what you and I are asking for?

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:49 AM

Actually haner I’d ask the same question. Even in the interview above she does, she’s going on and on about being fiscally conservative with the Alaska budget. I honestly don’t think they come much more Conservative or Christian for that matter than her. Hmmmm?

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 1:53 AM

The difference is Palin is a Conservative. Her record shows that.
Please articulate how Palin hasn’t done that.

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Palin taxing Big Oil and using the proceeds for cash handouts is not conservative nor fiscally prudent. It’s what Obama and the Democrats want to do. Now that oil prices have plummeted, the state of Alaska is barely solvent.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Hawkdriver,

I have a friend that flies blackhawks and is currently stationed at Ft. Riley where his job is to go to various guard units and give check rides. A slightly different set of orders from his last posting outside Brussels flying NATO bigshots around Europe. He’s retiring early in ’09.

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:55 AM

I have seen no evidence that Palin will solve the illegal immigration problem, other than wishful thinking.

Palin on Univision on Oct. 26, 2008:

Interviewer: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 2:00 AM

haner, you are criticizing a Sarah Palin Image created ( and sabotaged ) by the media and not the actual, real, existing governor of Alaska.

If you think she’s stupid, you are–I don’t know how else to say it. Her flaws as a politician are there, but are minor and fix-able; her strengths are also there, and are considerable.

Maybe she should not be the candidate to challenge the Manchurian Gangsta, but for the next four years she can be an effective rallying point and fundraiser for a Republican Party which needs a thorough revising and overhaul

Janos Hunyadi on November 8, 2008 at 2:00 AM

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Agreed, But Alaskans get a share of that money anyways. Didn’t she just increase it with their profits. Am I wrong?

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:03 AM

haner, This has been debunked.

The Alaskan Constitution states that the resources the common wealth of ALaska owns these resources. Therefore, these companies will pay a fee to extract their resources.

Key word here
“Everyone” get’s a check from the government..

Palinpuma on November 8, 2008 at 2:04 AM

Agreed, But Alaskans get a share of that money anyways. Didn’t she just increase it with their profits. Am I wrong?

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:03 AM

She spread the wealth. Exacted better terms for her constituents.

lexhamfox on November 8, 2008 at 2:05 AM

Palin taxing Big Oil and using the proceeds for cash handouts is not conservative nor fiscally prudent. It’s what Obama and the Democrats want to do. Now that oil prices have plummeted, the state of Alaska is barely solvent.

What the hell you talking about? Alaska is the only state that isn’t in a recession.

Palinpuma on November 8, 2008 at 2:06 AM

I have a friend that flies blackhawks and is currently stationed at Ft. Riley where his job is to go to various guard units and give check rides. A slightly different set of orders from his last posting outside Brussels flying NATO bigshots around Europe. He’s retiring early in ‘09.

Gohawgs on November 8, 2008 at 1:55 AM

I have loved working with and flying with the NG guys since even before the war started when our unit became “Muliti-Compo” with a unit in Salisbury NC. We couldn’t have fought the war as we have to this point without the Guard and Reserve. They’ve forever killed that Weekend Warrior stigma.

One event we as Americas should all be proud of.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:10 AM

haner, you are criticizing a Sarah Palin Image created ( and sabotaged ) by the media and not the actual, real, existing governor of Alaska.

Maybe she should not be the candidate to challenge the Manchurian Gangsta, but for the next four years she can be an effective rallying point and fundraiser for a Republican Party which needs a thorough revising and overhaul

Janos Hunyadi on November 8, 2008 at 2:00 AM

Bush never escaped his media image. And it hurt his presidency and the Republican Party. Part of the reason was that he never was all that articulate himself and never warmed up to the media. I also found it stupid of epic proportions to have former Bush PR aides advise Palin.

I agree that the Republican Party needs an overhaul, but is Palin the one to do it? I just fear she will push it to an even smaller tent, because her rhetoric has a tendency to be very polarizing.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 2:11 AM

She spread the wealth. Exacted better terms for her constituents.

lexhamfox on November 8, 2008 at 2:05 AM

Still confused because I really don’t know. Don’t all Alaskans on top of not paying State Tax, get a share of oil revenues?

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:12 AM

I have seen no evidence that Palin will solve the illegal immigration problem, other than wishful thinking.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 2:00 AM

That’s the one problem I have with her, but I’m hoping she only said it for the sake of conformity with McCain. Unless I learn otherwise I have to assume she meant it, so I hope she’ll recant at some point if she runs for POTUS.

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 2:16 AM

Palin taxing Big Oil and using the proceeds for cash handouts is not conservative nor fiscally prudent. It’s what Obama and the Democrats want to do. Now that oil prices have plummeted, the state of Alaska is barely solvent.

haner on November 8, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Ah, OK! The People’s Republic of Alaska Windfall Profits.

Finally, I get/see the gist of your argument. You do know that Palin didn’t enact those tax laws on the oil companies, yes? Those taxes on the oil companies were there before she got there you know that, yes?

You must know that what Obama wants to do to the oil companies are not the same, yes?

Assuming you do, then, haven’t you looked at Palin’s record?
Before and during her governorship, she has demonstrated fiscal leadership. What was enacted before she took governorship is both beneficial to Alaskans and a detriment. In a 2006 census, Alaska population was about 670,053 versus the population of the United States of about 299,398,484. Mouse Nuts.

This is called profit sharing. Oil comapnies uses the resources and employment, and the States shares the profits. That check varies with the price of oil, you know…. yes?

Kini on November 8, 2008 at 2:17 AM

haner on November 8, 2008 at 2:11 AM

You and I are not so far from the same opinion. I guess I’m just more enthusiastic (and optimistic) at her chances. I just don’t want it to be us as a party that is her stumbling block. She’ll get enough of that from the media. If she runs, we’ll see how she does being fully vetted by the primaries.

OT, Folks, one thing we as Republicans need to start pushing right now is closed primaries. Every State. I see more Operation Chaos on both sides if we don’t. God love him, but frankly, it was a Media Operation Chaos that got us Senator McCain in the first place

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:18 AM

There is still life on here. This wasn’t moving for a while. Sharing revenues is a great idea. Would be nice if all states would do that. But, the Government sharing revenues? Never! I still don’t understand why they don’t to a Flat Tax or Fair Tax? No, they want to bleed us to death.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 2:19 AM

That’s the one problem I have with her, but I’m hoping she only said it for the sake of conformity with McCain. Unless I learn otherwise I have to assume she meant it, so I hope she’ll recant at some point if she runs for POTUS.

FloatingRock on November 8, 2008 at 2:16 AM

I’d bet money she never agreed much with that position.

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:19 AM

OT, Folks, one thing we as Republicans need to start pushing right now is closed primaries. Every State. I see more Operation Chaos on both sides if we don’t. God love him, but frankly, it was a Media Operation Chaos that got us Senator McCain in the first place

hawkdriver on November 8, 2008 at 2:18 AM

Great advice. Would be better less confusing.

sheebe on November 8, 2008 at 2:21 AM

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