Video: Fox News drops another load of dirty laundry on Palin

posted at 12:05 am on November 6, 2008 by Allahpundit

Unlike the first clip, this one does corroborate some of the details in the Newsweek report — sort of. Newsweek claims Palin appeared to McCain’s aides in a bath towel; Cameron says it’s a bathrobe. It’s not clear if he’s lifting that story from the piece or if he got it from a source firsthand; if the latter, then there’s either one very determined person leaking to multiple news outlets or … it’s a full-court press.

Whichever it is, you’ll never hear the word “uncommon” uttered as pejoratively as you will here.

I assume this is a sign that Maverick’s headed back to the center, because if he thinks the base is sore at him now, wait until his cronies’ attempts to scapegoat their idol start percolating. The boss’s reaction is emblematic, I’d guess. Exit question: I wonder what Greta, who was chiding the media just 12 hours ago for trying to destroy the ‘Cuda, thinks of these little Cameron segments.

Update: E-mailers are claiming Romney people must be the leakers since Mitt’s the obvious beneficiary of smearing Palin. Two things about that. One, the dirt in the Newsweek piece was leaked on condition that it not be published until after the election. If Romneyites were looking to tear Palin down, the time to leak would have been before the vote to try to sabotage McCain and clear Mitt’s path to 2012. Two, some of this stuff — like the bathrobe story — would have to have come from high-ranking McCain staffers with direct access to Palin. Were there any Romney people that high up in Maverick’s campaign? If not, would people who were that high up be inclined to whisper about it to Romney people and risk them leaking it, especially after all the bad blood between the two sides during the primary?

Update: Ace reminds me that Politico quoted an unnamed McCain aide — probably Randy Scheunemann — two weeks ago as saying Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace (neither of whom is a Romney person) would be the ones trying to tear down Palin. Right or wrong? Read this pool report of a press gaggle with Schmidt aboard McCain’s plane on Monday. Twice a reporter asked him to confirm that he was happy with Palin on the ticket. Twice, no reply. Doesn’t mean he’s the leaker, but it’s “uncommon,” to borrow a phrase.


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Dave Rywall on November 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Ut-oh. Someone’s pissy about Mark Steyn not being crucified. Such a shame. I’m sure you’ll feel better the moment another honor killing shows up in the paper.

MadisonConservative on November 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Obama has loyalists and people working WITH him that believe in the cause (Marxism).

McCain had employees with no higher purpose. Hence the constant leaks, failed campaign, and lack of control.

If the Palin rumors turn out to be true (more than likely they are), then that’s the final nail. She’s finished. It’s a shame really because her heart is in the right place, she has the right philosphy, and has great potential. But the timing wasn’t right, as I predicted. I actually didn’t think she would accept the VP pick because I assumed she would realize she would be tainted by advocating and associating with a jerkoff like McCain for 4 years or even just the campaign. Turned out to be true. Her judgement has also been tainted by not realizing something so obvious and taking on unfriendly interviews and failing.

If anyone disagrees, I’ll put as much weight into your argument as you’ve earned, which is zero. Most of the optimists made yourselves look like morons with your predictions, dismissing all polls, and making lame excuses. Now some of the losers here are promoting losing social con issues and moving more to the left.

Liberals/Democrats/Media picked the miserable and pathetic Republican candidate in the primaries. Then all of you sit on your a$ses typing for months advocating the idea that a proven jerkoff like McCain could win based solely on the fact that he’s is potentially better than Obama. You still haven’t learned anything by this failed strategy for the retards.

Palin has no major future in politics for a very long time unless something incredibly amazing happens that mere mortals cannot foresee. Admit it and move on. Learn from your mistakes of making yourselves look like fools (e.g. Hasselbeck and her ilk). You want to push back conservatism for a few more decades? Then keep pushing Palin as your saviour.

nottakingsides on November 6, 2008 at 2:08 PM

THAT is the definition of a “Domestic Terrorist”,something the right wing loved to hang on Obama for his so-called “associations”

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 2:08 PM

It’s not too surprising to see the Republicans forming a circular firing squad after an unsuccessful campaign. The media will always stand ready to offer powerful incentives to anyone who turns on their designated enemies. Most of the media establishment has no real problem with John McCain, now that he’s not in the Messiah’s way. In fact, most of them rather like him, both ideologically and personally. They also have a vested interest in maintaining the narrative about respecting the old bulls of Washington – they worship at the altar of government power. The young woman with sincere conservative views, from a rural state, is a much better fall guy.

The media also hates to change their action lines, and they’ve already got one up and running for Palin: she’s a lightweight, she has odd religious views, she was a sop to the base, etc. They would much rather reinforce that action line, especially since they wouldn’t relish having a woman who might have thirty or forty years of political life ahead of her becoming powerful and respected. Nothing bothers them more than a young conservative, especially since conservative ideas tend to work reliably in practice. It took them a decade to bury the details of Reagan’s economic success (Try telling the average blue-collar liberal that tax revenues go up when rates are lowered. It’s empirically provable, a hard fact, but they’ll still sputter objections even when you show them CBO numbers from the 80s and 90s.) They don’t like the thought of a charismatic leader who could champion those policies well into the 2030s.

Troll snarking about her wardrobe or press interviews aside, there’s little doubt that Palin was a net plus to the McCain campaign – we’ve got the numbers from the election, plus those huge crowds she was pulling. The problem within the Republican party overall is that Republican elites dislike their rank and file, and have never learned how to effectively interface with them. The rank and file, in turn, is suspicious of the elites, and sees a long record of across-the-aisle mis-steps stretching out behind them.

On the Democrat side, the rank-and-file literally worship the elites (even before Obama came along) and the elites don’t allow their contempt for the rank-and-file to interfere with effectively organizing and using them. Liberalism draws its power from pandering to the elements of its base and tossing them goodies, paid for by other people. Conservatism requires the active support of the base, working upward, relying upon its leadership to implement the policies the base believes in, many of which will not provide them with direct material benefits. The conservative model is much harder to sustain – look how many of them stayed home this time out. When they find someone they feel is one of them, someone they figuratively or literally “elected”, that person becomes very dangerous to the elitists.

The Republican base, at present, feels like it “elected” Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, to name the two most prominent examples. They feel John McCain and the Peggy Noonan wing of the commentariat were forced on them. This doesn’t necessarily mean they hate or dislike those people, although the resentment can boil over into the occasional RINO hunt… but they won’t flock to their banners, not like they will to someone that seriously engaged them, won their trust, and champions their causes. If Sarah Palin is on the political scene to raise her banner in a couple of years, they will flock to her, and there’s nothing the Republican elite likes less than the sight of the Republican base, gathered en masse.

Doctor Zero on November 6, 2008 at 2:22 PM

I’m guessing that most of the commenters here represent Sarah Palin’s “Real America”. If so, I’m even more glad that they are more marginalized than they were Monday.

Vernon Hardapple on November 6, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Don’t bet on a guess. The “real American” thing is a canard. If you are an unincarcerated citizen, you have the same rights as others. (note: Marriage is not a defined right.) Therefore you are a “real American” by legal standards.

These people who purport to be the arbiters of patriotism and Americana are full of shite. They are just like every other human being — perpetually entwined in a mishmosh of contradictory values, actions and beliefs.

They excuse actions they perceive as offensive based on the actor not the act. This is evidenced everyday in the partisan chatrooms and other forums. Arguing with them is like raging at yourself in the mirror.

You all suck, so do I. That’s what happens when you’re born into the word. You’re born. You suck wind. You die. All the while thinking you are hotshit on a platinum platter.

***
Is the censorship they try to impose an American value? Hardly. How about suggestions of secession? Also un-American. “He’s not my President.” Another un-American utterance.

Let any liberal or dumbocrat do or say any of those things and watch the nutter monkeys howl.

Hypocrisy is not un-American appartently.

Oh yeah, I’m a troll or some other useless term of endearment.

I miss the days when people just hurled racial epithets. Things were more fun then. Now it’s like a catfight — all pissy and scratchy.

***
Dennis Prager sums it up far better than I ever could. Today’s last hour speaks to this point directly.

The Race Card on November 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM

The Republican base, at present, feels like it “elected” Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, to name the two most prominent examples. They feel John McCain and the Peggy Noonan wing of the commentariat were forced on them. This doesn’t necessarily mean they hate or dislike those people, although the resentment can boil over into the occasional RINO hunt… but they won’t flock to their banners, not like they will to someone that seriously engaged them, won their trust, and champions their causes….

Doctor Zero on November 6, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Oh yeah, shame on you Senator McCain.

A so-called Maverick would not act like such a common coward. I take great pain in that assessment, but I believe it is aptly placed. You chose the Governor, you foisted her onto the national stage. You have no right to be sore because she’s trying and doing her best to make a name for herself while she’s there.

Senator McCain, you need to speak up about this or your political legacy will wither like brittle limbs on a dying, once-great Oak.

The Race Card on November 6, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Whoops – meant to add, is it possible that these elements of the party simply are no longer compatible?

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 2:31 PM

You all suck, so do I.

The Race Card on November 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Conservatism is supposed to have, at its core, respect for oneself as for others. So what are you?

MadisonConservative on November 6, 2008 at 2:43 PM

i really thought Sarah Palin had promise in Polictics. i am sick of the Republican Party being labeled as the party of
rich white guys.I saw interviews with Sarah Palin before
she was pick as she seemed knowlegdable and smart and answer
the question she was asked, glenn beck and larry kudlow interviews. As soon as she was pick Democrats in Obama’s
camp suggested mc cains judgement in picking someone so
unpreapared. other democrats in the media pick up on that
talking point Matt Damon, Bill Maher, Keith Oblermann,
Joy Behar. If that was the case why let her go on a interview where they knew wasnot going to be as freindly as
glenn beck and let her go on an interview like that when she had no prep. whether she had interview prep or not they
obviously did not warn her that the interview were not going to be friendly. if they were not going to let her prep him to make her seem knowelegde then they should have pick some one else. after the couric interview they didn’t
trust her to be on interviews by herself
THey let couric make her look like a fool THe press and people who have worked with her in alaska have stated othervwise as said she is smart adn a quite smart.Hecritics republcian and democrat have only pointed to the two interview to make that point. when they made that point they
also made the point that mccain has bad judgement. the campain people steve schmidt and nicolle wallace really messed up, not only did they ruin a campaign they ruin Sarah’s chances of becoming a star in the republican party

rwoodward6 on November 6, 2008 at 2:57 PM

then that’s the final nail.
nottakingsides on November 6, 2008 at 2:08 PM

There was never a first nail.

csdeven on November 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM

There is a reason Palin is being trashed, and it is sounding all too orchestrated. She is in Alaska minding her own business and is still being pilloried by back biters, who is this serving? Who does this help? There is an answer and I would love to see the veil pulled back to reveal the trail to whom it leads. This is intentional.

Mr A on November 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Insiders in the Republican party have got to go. Give your head a shake O’Reilly. Why are you giving this air time? And that reporter is a goof. Absolutely pathetic.

apacalyps on November 6, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Now Palin flip flopped and won’t even call for Stevens to resign.

Dave Rywall on November 6, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Now this little gem…

Ted Stevens, the Alaska Senator, is clinging to a lead of around 3,300 votes in his battle against Mark Begich, the Democratic mayor Anchorage. There are 50,000 votes still to be counted, mostly absentee and postal ballots, and it could take ten days to get a result if it goes down to the wire. From Times Online November 6, 2008

This is what I mean about Rywall being a little creepy.
She can’t do anything about Stevens, until he wins, if he wins, the contest. It is undecided.
You are such a goofball, every time you post, you get nailed and embarrassed…fortunately your posts are more of the entertainment value, or you would have been banned, but basically your posts are inert (18 coutriess, hahahaha!)

right2bright on November 6, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Palin is the ONLY reason I even liked the McCain campaign.

The ONLY reason.

TexasDude on November 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM

right2b… I think Dave is a muslim.. and has “moved” to Canada for other reasons. I don’thave to explain much in detail since he stopped posting after He said Allah. And not our Allah on HA.

As for DcMike… aka Libertarian Indpependence wannabe. You mentioned someone who was murdered.. i.e. because of “Alaska”. Maybe you should go and look into that man’s history again and then come back with the apology to me.

You obviously do not understand nor can grasp anything concerning my State or what people constitute it as.

Get a grip… you are a freaking clown. And I am sorry, Canadians do not hvae free speech in my Country. They are NOT Americans.

upinak on November 6, 2008 at 3:12 PM

And they have beady little eyes….

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 3:16 PM

I have to say to all those who are now looking for a scape goat, STOP! The GOP lost and we all are to blame. Maybe, if instead of critiquing the selected candidate (and VP pick), if we had gotten behind them right from the start, they could have done better. I felt that the GOP was it’s own worst enemy in this election. And yes, at this point it seems like a cop-out for any of you to trash McCain or Palin to justify your position. Obama may be a slime-ball socialist, but he ran a tight campaign, and with the support of the media and lack of support in the GOP, the GOP lost big time. Stop whining and start moving forward.

JohnB on November 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM

I’d love to move forward but it appears that the only place for a Goldwater Republican to move is out the door…

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 3:27 PM

And yes, at this point it seems like a cop-out for any of you to trash McCain or Palin to justify your position.

JohnB on November 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM

I’ve been disgusted by McCain for years. That IS my position. Nothing’s changed. You need to learn from history and reality, so YOU can “move forward”.

nottakingsides on November 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Carly Cameron, head on down to the National Enquirer.

Hammerhead on November 6, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Nobody gave $.02 about McCain until Palin came.

Palin will do good when she is working on her own terms.

OK, I was a little annoyed when they calling each other “Mavericks” every other sentence.

romanianhacker on November 6, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Nobody gave $.02 about McCain until Palin came.

Palin will do good when she is working on her own terms.

OK, I was a little annoyed when they were calling each other “Mavericks” every other sentence.

romanianhacker on November 6, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Kind of ironic McCain people are dumping on Palin, but wouldn’t do it to Obama and Biden.

(Were there some closet Obmaniacs infiltrated into the McCain camp?)

albill on November 6, 2008 at 4:14 PM

As for DcMike… aka Libertarian Indpependence wannabe. You mentioned someone who was murdered.. i.e. because of “Alaska”. Maybe you should go and look into that man’s history again and then come back with the apology to me.

upinak on November 6, 2008 at 3:12 PM

LOL you want facts moron? here’s some for you

(1) “First Dude” Todd Palin was a active member of the AIP up into 2002

(2) Joe Vogler wanted Alaska to SECEEDE from the United States and he would use armed violence to help him. And guess who Vogler persuaded to sponsor him for his ultimate quest for independence??

Guess anyone?

THE GOVERMENT OF IRAN!!!
yes, the same Islamic dictatoriship George Bush said was in his Axis of Evil. So you have the head of the AIP,along with Sara Palin,who by the way, recorded a speech for them back in March of this year,advocating a armed insurrection against the United States. And this is the same Iran John McCain and Sara Palin excoriated Barrack Obama for wanting to engage in diplomacy with.

All of this comes from John McPhee’s book “Coming into the Country” published in 1991 and by way here’s another quote from Mr Volger on how he felt about America:

if any federal official tried to stop him from polluting Alaska’s rivers with his earth-moving equipment, he would “run over him with a Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies.”

Still not convinced? here’s a doozy for you:

“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compaired to my hatred for the American Goverment,and I won’t be buried under their damn flag”

“I’m a Alaskan,not a American. I got no use for America or her damn instutions”—Joe Vogler,Founder of the Alaskan Independence Party.

And this is who you wanted to be a heartbeat from the presidency? someone who “palls around with terroists”? somebody that wanted to start a civil war here in this country?

go have some milk and cookies and then return when you can make a better arguement

P.S. he got whacked by a member of his OWN party

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM

And this is who you wanted to be a heartbeat from the presidency? someone who “palls around with terroists”? somebody that wanted to start a civil war here in this country?
DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM

sorry,I misquoted Sara Palin here at the end. She’s not just “palling around with terrorist”,no what she’s really doing is “palling around with terrorists who want to target their own country”—Sara Palin 2006

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM

2008,correction. all those number buttons get mixed up sometime lol

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM

You wont because you are a coward and any service you are willing to give doesn’t include opening up yourself and your family to humiliation based on vile lies.

csdeven on November 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Angry csdeven is back again. After the 2006 elections you spewed your name calling at me because we didn’t agree. After months of frothing at the mouth about Fred and in defense of Romney you are lashing out at people with a different opinion. Despite that I empathized with your concern about your son in Iraq.
Got news for you my distinguished HA colleague. When Palin was a senior in high school I enlisted in the military – just retired last year.
Coward – far from it.
I am not running for VP — she is and if criticism is not allowed post-election I have to wonder just what kind of country do you wish to live in?

Bradky on November 6, 2008 at 6:02 PM

2008,correction. all those number buttons get mixed up sometime lol

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM

You are a fargin idiot!

upinak on November 6, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Bill Clinton was impeached for Christ Sake and he shows his face everywhere.
Even Edwards will be back and he is a total scum-bag.
Ted Kennedy Killed a woman. He came back.
Need I say More.

Geochelone

All true.. but they’re Democrats!! That means you can do anything and it’s “oh well” And the fact that one with the last name of Kennedy did get away with murder (well, perhaps manslaughter or whatever lesser degree you can call it) (it’s likely that one of us lesser folks would have been charged etc) He keeps getting re-elected!! Edwards is slime, Murtha can insult his constituents, be the pork king and get re-elected. The list goes on. Just what does that say about the people who keep re-electing these cretins?

While there have been plenty of GOP scandals and issues they become headlines and the person becomes persona-non-grata. Don’t forget that President Bush is responsible for hurricane Katrina!!

There is no shame in the Democratic party.

But a breath of fresh air is trashed, insulted, called stupid, causes the femi-nazi’s to require therapy (which they needed long before Sara Palin) every word she uttered dissected for it’s true meaning, and people are ready to write her off and say her career is over. Let us not forget that thru all the crap she still rose above it and acted like the classy lady she is!!

I for one look forward to seeing more of her in National Politics.

ladyhawke53 on November 6, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Oh, come on people. If this is ALL they have on Sarah Palin, she’s as squeaky clean as she was when she allegedly went to the door that time. And I don’t think anyone other than those who hate her guts and are scared *&^%less of her really believe that she didn’t know Africa is a continent. Get real.

This is ass-covering and score-settling and Republican moderates giving off a death rattle.

ddrintn on November 6, 2008 at 6:29 PM

All of this back-stabbing gossip is so offensive to me. Carl Cameron is huge dissappointment. When did he descend to this level of insanity? It is stomach churning to see where he has gone. Sarah Palin is the only reason I got out and voted for McCain. I wasn’t even going to vote for president this year. She energized the Conservatives for McCain. In fact the ticket was winning until the Fannie/Freddie mess. McCain couldn’t/wouldn’t tell the story of Fannie and Freddie. In fact I never saw that story in the papers. I finally saw it on line by a journalist by the name of Scott Card from the Rhinocerous Times. Nevertheless, McCain would not articulate it because of……. We will never know. I suspect it was the very same people that are spreading rumors. How silly when the world wide financial markets are going down in flames and I will have to live the rest of my life under the watchful eye of a Chicago thug and his minions. The plans they have for us are totally frightening and all we care about is gossip.

BetseyRoss on November 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Fox has been gushing all over themselves since late Tuesday night,are you kidding me?

lizzee on November 6, 2008 at 7:16 PM

Just remember while we argue about silly things Moveon.org is raising millions of dollars to kick our ass all over the place again……WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT……!!

Chicostein on November 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM

When Palin was a senior in high school I enlisted in the military – just retired last year.
Coward – far from it.
Bradky on November 6, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Was your family attacked with vicious lies and did you have the most intimate details of your life broadcast to 300 million Americans every night?

No you didn’t and you are a coward for not defending her against these attacks.

csdeven on November 6, 2008 at 7:34 PM

You are a fargin idiot!

upinak on November 6, 2008 at 6:08 PM

LOL your honor,I rest my case

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 7:54 PM

How silly when the world wide financial markets are going down in flames and I will have to live the rest of my life under the watchful eye of a Chicago thug and his minions. The plans they have for us are totally frightening and all we care about is gossip.

BetseyRoss on November 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Why would you be afraid of a president that wants to:

(1) give a TAX CUT to 95% of Americans

(2) provide health care to ALL americans

(3) restore America’s reputation and good name all over the world

if your worried about that,I suggest you move to Red China or North Korea where you have a real dictator running your life

DcMike2K on November 6, 2008 at 8:02 PM

No you didn’t and you are a coward for not defending her against these attacks.

csdeven on November 6, 2008 at 7:34 PM

Now I am a coward for not standing up for her? If she needs some anonymous internet poster to defend her honor I wouldn’t want her within 1000 miles of the WH. Give me a break CS — what a stupid crock of *&*& you come up with.
You are the one hiding behind a keyboard spewing out insults and invective. You OWN the yellow streak down your back.
Obviously you feel the need to play Knight in Shining armor when you are off your meds. I found at least five different sites where you carried Romney’s water for months and now Palin is your flavor of the day. Gonna be a long two years for you in internet purgatory as you gnash your teeth about the injustices of the world.

Bradky on November 6, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Bradky on November 6, 2008 at 8:15 PM

You are a coward for not standing up in favor of the idea that we are all innocent until proven guilty.

You have accepted unnamed sources as fact and propagated the rumors. A fair person would wait for the proof before parroting unsubstantiated rumors. Only cowards take the easy route and accept those types of accusations as proof.

csdeven on November 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Given the current state of the Republic, Joe Vogler’s ideas don’t sound all that whacky. This isn’t the America it used to be. People are afraid to express their thoughts now because thoughtcrimes and intimidation abound. Our public colleges and universities are not places of inquiry where the freedom to think is respected, but instead have become government-sponsored indoctrination centers.

Our law has been warped beyond description by an activist judiciary that believed the elites knew better than the people. Although the Constitution is completely silent with respect to privacy, the Supreme Court found an “inchoate right” to “privacy” that “emanated” from “penumbras” of various constitutional articles and amendments. All of that in a case where the issue was whether the State of Connecticut could regulate the sale of contraceptives. And those concepts led directly to the proscription on state bans on abortion in Roe v. Wade.

The purpose of the Constitution is to assign limited powers to the federal government. The Bill of Rights was added to further limit government’s power to restrict the individual, notably in the areas of speech, assembly, religion, ownership of weapons, and a free press. All other rights were reserved to the individual States. So the States should be allowed, if they wish, to forbid or allow the sale of condoms, prohibit or permit abortion, proscribe or endorse homosexuality, and make all of the other myriad moral rules that a polity imposes through legislation based on the wishes of a majority of its citizens. The idea was that people would gravitate to States where the majority held values similar to their own. Want to live with porno and prostitutes? Go to Nevada. Want to live where knee-length skirts are mandatory attire for women? Go to Utah. Want to live where abortion is legal? Go to New York or any of the many other States that permitted abortion before Roe.

The effect of the made-up personal rights, such as privacy cum abortion, that the Supreme Court granted to individuals was to impose the values of the urban elites on the entire nation. Abortion, homosexual rights, and other such controversial issues would not intrude on the national debate had the Supreme Court not engaged in a ridiculous extension of federal (and judicial) power by forbidding the individual States to decide these issues for themselves.

Imagine living in a State where the majority was free to decide questions of public policy and morals on their own, limited only by the express provisions of federal constitution. Then imagine living in a nation composed of such States. Federal elections would center on issues of true national importance, like defense, trade, and taxation, rather than being a continual and increasingly acrimonious struggle over social issues that should be decided locally. What a change that would make in the national debate!

We have lost a chunk of our freedom every time an arrogant Supreme Court decided it knew better than the commoners and discovered a new federally-protected individual right. And, given the results of this election, there are sure to be plenty of new “rights” discovered that will divide us further and distract our attention from issues of true national importance, like whether or not we want to adopt socialism as the foundation of our national economy.

Things are bad, folks, and I feel like I understand ol’ Joe Vogler. Living in an independent state with like minded people, where just fine right now.

/rant OFF

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 9:41 PM

errata where would seem just fine to me right now.

Ranted myself into incomprehensibility!

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Palin is Trig.

username on November 6, 2008 at 10:11 PM

That was the vilest trolling I’ve seen on the web, and that saying plenty. MOD NEEDED – SEE ABOVE.

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Just curious as to why some think Palin should advise Stevens to step down. IF he is re-elected, IMHO it should be Senate Republicans and/or the Ethics committee to step in.

The entire thing will be moot once his sorry ass is sitting in jail. He needs to go to jail, go directly to jail but he will probably stick his hand out looking for the @200.

poodlemom on November 6, 2008 at 11:50 PM

Just curious as to why some think Palin should advise Stevens to step down.

She said in a radio interview in Alaska yesterday that she’d spoken to a couple of senators and that they assured her that if he’s re-elected that he will be expelled from the Senate. She said something to the effect of, “I think it’s clear that Alaska is going to have new representation in the Senate whoever ends up winning the election.”

She also didn’t expressly say that she wouldn’t run for the seat if Stevens wins and is expelled, but said that she certainly wouldn’t appoint herself to fill his seat in the interim between him vacating it and the time the special election to fill it is held.

I think she’ll be under pressure to run for it because she’s the only Republican in Alaska popular enough win. I hope that she resists that pressure though and stays on as governor (for two full terms). Her outsider status helps her more in the long run I think, and I really think she would hate the Senate. She’s a doer, senators just talk and build alliances. She hates bureaucracy, how slow government moves, and how stuff gets held up in committee for ages and ages. She won’t be able to get anything done as a freshman senator coming in to fill a convicted felon’s seat, especially since the democrats leading Congress and the White House are going to oppose her every move to punish her for the campaign and to hurt her future chances at the White House.

meltenn on November 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM

That was the vilest trolling I’ve seen on the web, and that saying plenty. MOD NEEDED – SEE ABOVE.

Venusian Visitor on November 6, 2008 at 10:23 PM

And that is going to help what? Saying it yet not the name.

upinak on November 7, 2008 at 11:24 AM

they are running clips of Carl Camroon on TMZ today… Carl you’re toast buddy, get your resume ready for MSNBC President Olby… cuz I’m writing a letter a day to FOX to can your hack ass…

Kaptain Amerika on November 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM

Bush and McCain never learned …you cannot make nice with your enemies…especially when they are Democrats

Jamson64 on November 7, 2008 at 7:31 PM

I used to like Carl Cameron, but he managed to reverse that in one report. He was a little too anxious to dish the dirt. I wonder if he vetted any of that crap before putting it out there…

stacman on November 7, 2008 at 7:47 PM

Surprised to see Cameron stoop to this level.
If you want to see this type of reporting you tune in MSNBC.
I always thought he was an exceptional journalist till now.
He WAS my favorite. Such a disappointment.
I’ll just stick to the Fox Business Channel. So far with Cavuto at the helm it’s very professional & enjoyable.

Gulf Coast on November 7, 2008 at 7:51 PM

UPINAK (there’s a name), you moron, “above” obviously meant “directly above.” The immediately preceeding post. Was it too much to ask that you would glance upward and read a little before posting a witty criticism?

Jerk.

Venusian Visitor on November 7, 2008 at 7:59 PM

I can’t help but go on to thinking this is a bit of a contrived issue with FOXNews… The more they make of it, the more the other outlets want on board.
The more that happens, the more sympathy for Palin, and as she takes the “high road”, her approval ratings soar, and she’s well-poised for a Run in 2012…
She’s already beating the Huck (12%) and Romney (11%) in Polls of who Conservatives would support for the Next Prez…
She’s at a whopping 62% already; and while it could be a total bloom or bust scenario, you have to take into account she IS the new face of Conservatism and what boltered the Party…

nationspatriotcom on November 8, 2008 at 1:11 AM

Upinak – sorry. I was so angry about the “Palin is Trig” post – in the context of a discussion of Sarah Palin’s intelligence – that I didn’t want to repeat it, and I’m sorry I responded angrily to your post. You had a point, mine wasn’t very clear.

But let me say this: that “username” guy has been posting “Palin is Trig” all over Hot Air. Clearly, he is ridiculing Governor Palin and mocking her child’s disability in the same breath. This is so reprehensible to me that I believe I would slug the guy were he not hiding behind his monitor. If a mod sees this, please, please, delete all of the posts by “username” mentioning Trig.

Venusian Visitor on November 8, 2008 at 1:22 PM

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