The blue map
posted at 4:18 pm on November 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
From the Times, an interactive snapshot of voter trends county by county. Blue means the district went more Democratic than it did in 2004, not that Obama won it; for a breakdown on that, choose “County leaders” at the link (or, better yet, “County bubbles” to weight each district by population). Aside from Arkansas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and a few scattered blotches in the south, the trend was universal. Discounting McCain’s home state, I spy exactly two counties west of Texas that went heavier for Maverick than they did for Bush. Worse still, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada have trended increasingly blue for two straight elections now. Maybe that’s just a function of the candidates each cycle (each state is comparatively redder now than it was in 1996 when Clinton crushed Dole), with the lesson here being not to get your hopes up when you’re running against a guy with $650 million to spend, especially when you’re saddled with a president whose approval rating is in the 20s. But when you can drive coast to coast and never enter a district where the GOP picked up votes, it seems … noteworthy.
If that’s not depressing enough for you, see Greg Mankiw’s chart of youth voters. Ruffini claims they were worth 72 electoral votes to The One this time around and five percent to Democratic House candidates. How to turn that around will be at the top of the agenda at the powwows among conservative leaders going on now and in the coming months. If you think going to back to Reaganite basics is the key, fair enough, but aside from social security and abortion, it’ll take an awful lot of persuading.
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Well duh, more people voted Dem this year than in 2004. Compare 2008 to 1992 and the map is dark red. What does that mean? Nothing. Just like the map comparing 08 to 04
angryed on November 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
It used to be just the cities were blue. Thank you Johnny Mac.
Valiant on November 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Most people in this country feel that the president has little impact on them personally. Of course, they don’t notice the incremental taxes, erosion of freedom, or growth of government since they don’t think about it much.
Vashta.Nerada on November 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Grue,
Since you noticed the disparity in color with AK, this might pique your curiosity. This map is actually much more intriguing if you use it to look at party support across many years. Look at the slider bar on the left and compare 2008 to 1992.
Doesn’t look like the country has been heading to the left, but making a shift right.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
That’s a whole lotta not-racists.
Jim Treacher on November 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
If we, collectively the Republican party, are going to persuade voters to vote for our candidates, it would be a pretty useful thing to understand why they didn’t buy our schtick this election. Don’t ya think?
BacaDog on November 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
I agree, but I think that distinction has been lost for too many conservatives.
Big S on November 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
How much of this is blowback from ACORN? LOL
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
That’s quite a trend.
No, wait – that’s a MANDATE.
Dave Rywall on November 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
On a happy note, today I saw on the news that Barney bit a reporter at the White House today!!!!
BARNEY 2012!!!!
Republican on November 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Actually it is far more informative to compare 1992 and 2008 than 2004 and 2008. Looking at the difference with the last election shows the favor for one candidate. Looking across more than a decade is much more indicative of a trend in the electorated.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Hope they forgot to get him his shots
MDWNJ on November 6, 2008 at 4:49 PM
? How did I do that…Electorate.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Did Barney bite Carl Cameron? Just wonderin’.
LoneStarGal on November 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Eeeeeeeeeenteresting.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
That is a really great interactive map.
LimeyGeek on November 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM
1992 and 1996 are skewed numbers due to Perot. Maybe 2000 vs 2008 says something…not sure what.
angryed on November 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM
You guys wanted McCain to lose so that you got Obama. So you got Obama you should be happy. And just like the idiot liberals who blamed everything on George W Bush for 8 years, you are going to be doing the same idiotic thing with McCain for the next 4 years, aren’t you.
wise_man on November 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM
We Scots-Irish appear to have been red, as usual. We need to form a New Ulster or something, without the denominational strife.
ddrintn on November 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM
I hope the poor fellow had quick access to penecillin.
*lurks*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM
I might have the wrong map, mine only has 50 states, not 57.
MDWNJ on November 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
And where on that map does it show how we’re going to do that.
wise_man on November 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Hopefully he is up to date on his shots. Who knows what diseases a reporter might have….
rw on November 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
What is ironic to me, and I’ve yet to see a story about this, is that red states turn blue over time precisely due to the success of conservative policies toward business and taxes. North Carolina is a perfect example. Prior to Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, and Research Triangle becoming booming cities NC was solidly Conservative. (Think Jesse Helms). Successful policies towards business attracts a lot of high tech businesses that then draw a lot of talent from the northeast. These people bring their liberal values and voting patetrns with them, not realizing it is those very values that made their home states so hostile to businesses. So they continue to vote for Democrats and trun the state blue. Over time these states will become hostile to business.
DerKrieger on November 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Thanks for fixin it.
MDWNJ on November 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I’m more worried about what diseases FRANK may have.
*lurks*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
An addendum: what the hell was the McCain-Palin campaign thinking when it elevated places like Wasilla, Alaska, and people like Joe the Plumber, as some manifestation of all that is right with America. There’s nothing inherently wrong with those places or people, but young people (the kind who want to leave their hometown for something more exciting) were not going to get excited about that kind of “real America”.
Big S on November 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
The youth vote will go down for Democrats once all this war stuff goes on the backburner and the Daily Show gets boring with its nonstop Obama love.
Speedwagon82 on November 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
utterly meaningless.
I swear, I just don’t understand things like this. The reasoning for it, or the logic of it.
The ‘blue map’.
Please.
From what I gather, there wasnt all that many more people voting this year than the last election.
And McCain had LESS voters for him than voted for Bush.
That tells me more about the candidate than for the party.
We need a person that generates excitement and who actually fights.
We need a candidate that knows how to get that message across. With passion.
When we get that, we will have the turnout.
The pessimism thing strikes to mind a dog with its tail between its legs even before a fight.
Handel on November 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Mandate is just an empty word.
Issue by issue, people do not want what Obama is offering.
The problem is that republicans left what they said they stood for (read the last poll question).
lorien1973 on November 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I don’t think it is skewed. I’m pretty sure that is based upon party registration, by county and state. There is no way to track any other data about who voted for which candidate, nor would we have it in place at this point for 2008.
Now were there more independents? I have no idea.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Two days after the election and this site is already back to the negative crap. Do you think people aren’t aware that McCain lost? Do you think the media hasn’t done these stories and will continue to do them for the next six months at least? Why don’t you explain to everyone why they should read this blog and not your buddies over at TPM and Huffington Post when the content is the same.
clearbluesky on November 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
And where on that map does it show how we’re going to do that.
wise_man on November 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
The soon to be released Ah.C.R.A.P. (Audacity to Convene Republicans, People!) map. Because we definitely need to get our act together, quick.
LoneStarGal on November 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Yes indeed. I was young, idealistic, and had very little life experience under my belt at that time. Of course we were on the fringe of the Vietnam era and how Nixon and Republicans were corrupt crooks in the eyes of the youth. Carter seemed like a “nice, honest, new version” of the politicians at the time **excuse me while I gag**.
Then, I got married and we wanted to buy a house – HA! Interest rates were in the 15 – 18% range and unemployment fears were rampant.
I wonder if the idealistic youth who voted with their “feelings” on Tuesday will wake up to a new reality in a couple of years.
My husband compares young democrats to puppies – they become much more conservative when their eyes open.
tru2tx on November 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Dudes and dudettes, we just need the right Right person. That’s all. It wasn’t an overwhelming turnout, nor transformation of the electorate. We just need a ticket which is consistent with our beliefs. Not left – not center – center right to right.
marklmail on November 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Not sure how accurate this is. Look at MT ’04 vs. 08. According to the NY Times McCain won 50/47 and that is +2%.
angryed on November 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Awesome.
For what it’s worth, I was a part of the county in Michigan that went most for McCain.
Doesn’t make me feel a whole lot better. But hey! We legalized meedical marijuana, so we have that going for us!
ConservativeLawStudent on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
You might be going on a
but 56 million Americans against, does not a mandate make.
carbon_footprint on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Dear Republican Overlords: Please look at this map and wake the heck up. You’ve move so far away from your roots that you’ve alienated a great amount of America. Now FIX IT and go back to your principles. And kick out the moderates and RINO’s.
respectfully,
what’s left of the republican party
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Not that different from Churchill…
“If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
Although…does that mean I never had a heart?
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
JDScott on November 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM
I completely agree, JDScott. We need to pay attention to who’s counting the votes, i.e. the wise words of Stalin.
Starting with that partisan hack and outright criminal Jennifer Brunner. From what I understand, she is not elected but my God, isn’t there anything we can do?! Homeless people voting from their park benches!? Really?
gippergal1984 on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
HUH? This is vote totals, not registration. I said it is skewed because it compares rep or dem winning margins and Perot skewed those numbers win 1992.
angryed on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Trying to predict voter trends in the next election based on what happened in this election has very limited value, if it’s not outright futile.
Every election has its own set of issues and its own set of circumstances.
The issues that were big in this election are not the same ones of the last election. National security and the War On Terror were dominant last time around, they barely registered a blip this time. Taxes were not an issue this time, but if Obama does as expected and raises them, they will very likely become an issue, especially to many Obama voters that thought they were going to get a free ride and will end up paying more.
What you have here is nothing more than a snapshot.
thirteen28 on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
No it was a Reuters reporter — and the video was awesome… Barney rears up and rips into his thumb… and the reporter had a bandaid that had some blood flecked into it…
I dunno about you, but Barney looks like one Conservative ready to fight!
Republican on November 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Last link goes to Douthat… without any warning.
It’s like tricking people into looking at Goatse.
Lehosh on November 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I couldn’t believe the numbers they were showing for Texas and Utah on Tuesday night, but they’re apparently right. Yikes.
Tanya on November 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I am a heartless Grue.
Must’ve ate it. Wish I remembered what it tasted like.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Right, which is more evidence that the map is showing party registrations.
Also as I mess with this map more it is apparent that they didn’t connect up the AK data in the GIS program they used.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
ConservativeLawStudent on November 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
I personally am in favor of decriminalization but I think it’s hilarious that those are the priorities on the ballot when there are so many other problems to fix.
When is Granholm up for re-election? I’d move up there to vote against her.
gippergal1984 on November 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Wait, who are we talking about? You said Barney I thought you meant Barney Frank.
*lurks*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Here’s the video — BARNEY BITES REPORTER
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/bush_dog_barney_bites_reporter.html
Republican on November 6, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Exactly, and it’s infuriating.
One half of all the new US jobs over the last 12 months are in Texas. Actually, slightly more than one half. Texas has more new jobs than all the rest of the US combined. That’s why we have the fastest growing cities–because we have the #1 business climate.
This is good, but a lot of the Californians, northerners, etc, are diluting our politics. I like having new blood and growth, but there’ an insidious downside to it too.
juliesa on November 6, 2008 at 5:04 PM
This is meaningless statistical dribble.
dpierson on November 6, 2008 at 5:04 PM
OH THAT BARNEY
I didn’t know about him. In that case I rescind all my prior comments on the situation.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM
You’re dating again, Drywall? That’s the way, gotta get back on that horse. What’s his name?
Jim Treacher on November 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Thats the last thing i want to know, is what Barney Fwank is biting.Ughh, just had some throwup in my mouth. Pass the listerine.
MDWNJ on November 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM
I call shenanigans.
Look at Idaho… looks blue, right? Yet when you click on the interactive map, there are counties shown as blue on the per-county map which are [b]strongly[/b] red. Look at the SW corner of Idaho (Owyhee): 74.5% McCain/23.3% Obama. Yet the same area is blue on the per-county map shown above?
eforhan on November 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM
If Bawnee Fwank had bitten that reporter, he would have been rushed to the hospital for some very SERIOUS testing. We don’t know where Bawnee’s been.
kingsjester on November 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM
New strategy for 2012:
Ignore the Mid Atlantic states and New England
Ignore the West Coast
Go after everything else
Speedwagon82 on November 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM
2010.
The waiting is killing me.
ConservativeLawStudent on November 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
drywall is an idiot. He apparently didn’t read the whole post. That is not how the map looked for Obama. There are 88 counties in the state of Ohio and only about 15 of them went blue, they just happened to be the big city counties.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
I come from Central PA, small town, Farms and Cows and Amish. Whoopie Pies, etc..
75% “Red” State; always has been, probably always will be.
Anyway, my Mom & Dad still live there, on the Family Farm; I’m in Atlanta now, following a different path.
Regardless, my Mother has worked the Election Polls for the past 4 elections.
I just got off the phone with her, and she old me something very interesting; never heard her say this before.
She said that prior to the Primaries, they had a FLOOD of “voters” requesting to change Party ID from “Independent” and “Republican” and switch over to “Democrat”; so they could vote in the Democratic Primaries….for Obama. Then, they’d switch back to “Republican” again so that they could vote for….McCain.
They were quite open with my mother and other Poll workers; they wanted McCain to be running against Obama; because McCain was the one they said they could BEAT in the General Election!
I hate to extrapolate this across the country, from one mostly Red County in Central PA; but if the Obama campaign managed to reach into that country, with surrogates, to do that, as far back as the Primaries, it makes one wonder what they did in OH, NC, FL, VA, CO, NV, and all the other Swing States?
Was Soros & ACORN and all those other ratbastards behind this?
I’m just shocked about this; I asked my mother why she didn’t tell me about this before, and she said “Well, I know how much you hate Obama, I didn’t want to worry you, and didn’t think he’d actually be able to steal an entire election…”.
I as a rule, don’t believe in “conspiracy theories”; but now, I’m starting to wonder??
Dale in Atlanta on November 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Good call, Statistics and Polls are pseudo-math. While their may be an increase in the Dems ranks, don’t count on it being that much.
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Because the map above is misleading on first glance – it’s not “which counties went red or blue” it’s “which counties are MORE red or blue than they were in ’04″.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:09 PM
So, New York City and Long Island are only light blue? Hallelujah, we’re trending Republican, right???
J.J. Sefton on November 6, 2008 at 5:09 PM
What we need here is someone who goes on every thread to repeatedly guarantee a McCain victory and patronize everyone who has doubts. That’s what we really need. It fills the time, pumps people up, and helps avoid diagnosing any problems.
a capella on November 6, 2008 at 5:09 PM
You are right to be confused — afterall both Barney Bush and Barney Frank are known to enjoy “snausages”.
Republican on November 6, 2008 at 5:09 PM
75% “Red” State; always has been, probably always will be.
Sorry, that should be “75% Red County“
it makes more sense if you read it that way!
Dale in Atlanta on November 6, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Hmmm. That does make more sense. In that event, the skewing is confusing. Stupid map is worthless under that analysis.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Texas does have alot of job openings. Texas is turning blue because we won’t enforce immigration laws (sanctuary cities). Hispanics voted 0′bama 2:1. That’s who’s filling the job openings (the jobs Americans don’t want), staying here, starting families, voting for the One.
LoneStarGal on November 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I started wondering several months ago, friend.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM
It was a tough loss, buts lets begin again. I am doing my part and started a new blog today. Moaning ain’t gonna change anything. So start working, all of us.
http://46in08.blogspot.com/
rob verdi on November 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Don’t get me started LonestarGal, I personally know too many illegals that get punted and are back in two weeks. It drives me up the wall.
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I started wondering several months ago, friend.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Okay, let me explain this again, since I screwed it up the first time.
Basically, in our very, very, very RED Central PA COUNTY, before the Primaries, there a flood of unprecendented Voter Party Change Requests, to become “Democrats”; so that votes could be cast for Obama and against “Hillary”; then, the same people switched back to “Republican” so that they could vote for McCain, and against Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, etc.
The people who did this were quite clear, when questioned: the purpose was to set up a General Election showdown between Obama & McCain!!
Dale in Atlanta on November 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Why is anyone trying to make sense of something in the NY TIME? Come on people!
angryed on November 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Heh, know the feeling as well. Thank GOD we re-elected Sherriff Joe… not sure what we would have done had we gotten stuck with Saban instead.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM
This map probably reflects two things, especially given a stat I saw that one million FEWER voted in 08 than 04. The Dems ran a decent get out the vote (at least once) campaign while McCain did a rather mediocre job of motivating the GOP base. If McCain could have motivated the “right” million voters in key states to get off their butts and vote for McCain as someone or something they could believe in, McCain might have actually won.
Or in other words, this was an election about accepting or rejecting Obama. McCain lost that debate.
droofus on November 6, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Yeah, that’s right. Posts like this that tell us what we already know are all about “diagnosing problems”. You may not have noticed, but constant pessimism and negativity, or “diagnosing problems” as you call it, aren’t winning us any elections.
clearbluesky on November 6, 2008 at 5:15 PM
It’s time to retire the GOP brand – immediately.
Euthanize the elephant. Give it a public burial. Start fresh and build a new party.
newton on November 6, 2008 at 5:15 PM
The better question is, why does Arkansas have such a higher regard for the GOP? Clinton family members mad Obama beat Hillary?
Speedwagon82 on November 6, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Yeah, I was just thinking that one myself. Margins are not the kind of data I deal with, so hats off to you. I went way too parametric, and thought there just might be a silver lining in these data as presented. FOOLISH.
:D
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Grue, what State you hail from that the illegals are assailing you as well?
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Wait until the Boomers are mostly gone.
Christien on November 6, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Spike Lee: Republican Party Has to Do Something Because ‘Base is Totally White’
Connie on November 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Arizona.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Yeah, the democrats would love that.
wise_man on November 6, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Sheriff Joe kinds lets you know that, If you’ve heard of Sheriff Joe. He’s made the national news more than once. Needless to say, I wish there were MANY Sheriff Joes all over the country.
He rocks.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Thank GOD we re-elected Sherriff Joe… not sure what we would have done had we gotten stuck with Saban instead.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on November 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I LOVE sherriff Joe! Can we have him here in Texas?
LoneStarGal on November 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Christien on November 6,2008 at 5:19PM
Unfortunately even after they have passed their indoctrination of our children through the public schools will remain.
thomasaur on November 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Texas (if you didn’t already know). Makes sense now. Yep. I’m this close to building the damn fence on my own. With Explosives and Poisonous barbed wire.
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM
It was again reported today that Obama wants the government to give bailout money to the auto industry that would in turn use it in support of the Unions and their pension funds. Two of the basic tenants of Marxism are government control of manufacturing and distribution. Is there any doubt that the intent is for the leftist unions to gain more and more control of the auto industry . . . the Marxist revolution is on the march?
Do the mindless masses we called voters in this sick country have any idea what they have done to us? We have been completely sold out and this is going to be even worse than anyone had expected.
rplat on November 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I still can’t believe NC went to Obama. I still don’t personally know 5 people personally who supported or voted for Obama, or at least will admit it….
Hog Wild on November 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM
WTF does that mean?? I happen to be a so-called BOOMER.
Explain, please.
tru2tx on November 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM
I took it to mean a HARD shift to the left from where things are today.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM
OT — Where were these guys 8 or 4 years ago? Oh wait, they were complaining about “stolen” elections and saying that Bush and the republicans did evil things. Ugh, sorry, I don’t have the heart to be nice to these people.
baxtrice on November 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM
We got clobbered because (1) mismanagement of the war in Iraq in 2005-06 led to revolt against GOP as the national security party; (2) high spending and some corruption in GOP congress in 2005-06; and (3) the economic crisis hitting a month before the election, and Obama got away with blaming Bush (Bush didn’t defend himself nor blame Democrats, as he SHOULD have).
Over the last two years, Democrats ran Congress, but still managed to blame Bush for everything going wrong. Now the Democrats will be running the show, except for filibusters in the Senate. If Obama tries another FDR New Deal and no energy development, and appeases foreign dictators, we’ll be in a 1980-type situation in two years, with high energy prices, a failing economy, and “mark my words” foreign-policy crises, our message (going back to three pillars of conservatism–low taxes/low spending, strong on national security, and family values) will resonate with the voters–the Democrats can’t blame Republicans for what THEY did!
We’ll need candidates who express themselves well, and explain our ideas and why they work. Over the past four years, President Bush has been a lousy communicator, and the MSM has driven the agenda with no rebuttal from Bush. We need to recruit good House and Senate candidates now, and be ready to get them elected in 2010.
Steve Z on November 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Wait till the youth vote gets wind they voted for someone who wants to raise electricity rates to the point it is unaffordable to maintain their addiction to all things electronic. This is not a generation used to or amenable to making sacrifices.
msmveritas on November 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I find it interesting that someone with a screenname of ‘Valiant’ would write something so spineless. The Republican Party lost this election. McCain certainly deserves his share of the blame but the GOP put us in this mess in the first play by over spending when they were in power and not putting up a fight when they were in the minority. The GOP voters picked McCain in the first place ot be the nominee of the Party. You, me and everyone else who supports the Party or labels themselves a Republican shares the blame for letting this entire decade leave us in shambles.
grdred944 on November 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM
tru2tx,
I happen to be a so-called BOOMER also. I was born in ’57.
But I have a brother born in 53 and a sister born in 54 and they are both terminal libs.
thomasaur on November 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Sure am proud to be a Tennessean!
theblakeus on November 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM
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