Russia has some change ready for Obama
posted at 10:30 am on November 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
“Change”, in this case, consists of missile deployments on the frontiers of NATO. Russian president Dmitri Medvedev announced the move yesterday in a speech that never once mentioned the new American President-elect, but caustically criticized the Western approach to Moscow. Medvedev also reversed course on missile disarmament in western Russia:
President Medvedev ordered missiles to be stationed up against Nato’s borders yesterday to counter American plans to build a missile defence shield.
Speaking within hours of Barack Obama’s election, Mr Medvedev announced that Russia would base Iskander missiles in its Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad – the former German city – next to the border with Poland.
He did not say whether the short-range missiles would carry nuclear warheads.
Taking advantage of the world’s attention on the US elections, Mr Medvedev also cancelled plans to withdraw three intercontinental ballistic missile regiments from western Russia by 2010.
This would appear to be the first major challenge to Obama, even though he has not yet taken office. Russia carefully watched as Obama denigrated missile-defense research and deployment during the primaries, and then remained carefully silent about it in the general election. They want to see whether they can intimidate Obama into retreat, even after eastern European nations like Poland and the Czech Republic have already signed onto a partnership with the US for these missile-defense stations.
Joe Biden warned that Obama would face just such a test early in his term. He also warned that Obama’s reaction would not look like smart strategy, and told Obama supporters that they would have to stick by him while Obama received massive criticism for his actions. One can interpret that in two different ways: either Obama’s response would anger his supporters, or it would anger everyone else.
I’m hoping that Obama sticks to American commitments in the region. Given his comments about ending missile-defense research and deployment, I’m afraid that Obama will run away from Russia on this point, and that the first Medvedev/Putin-Obama confrontation will remind people even more of the disastrous Kennedy-Khrushchev summit in 1961 that precipitated the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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It’s going to be like we emptied all the prisons isn’t it?
Ronnie on November 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Of course. Our CIC will be a not so threatening feature to the world. He promised to cut our nuclear arsenal.
carbon_footprint on November 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Just surrender now, Obama – save us the speeches and dithering.
Vashta.Nerada on November 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Dude, this isn’t because of Obama, this is because of Bush/McCain and their grandiose defense of Georgia ‘we are all Georgians’ and whatnot.
When we decided to up the ante, Russia isn’t/doesn’t bluff. We hoped they were bluffing. But this isn’t about Obama. This is just like the Cuban missile crisis, but instead of Russia putting missiles on our hemisphere, we are putting missiles in Russia’s hemisphere.
I would hope that America would respond to Russia the same way that Russia is responding to America here.
ThackerAgency on November 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
By 2012, they’ll be installing missiles in Massachusettes, with the full blessing of Barry Steel-In-His-Spine.
whitetop on November 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Russia knows a useful idiot when they see one, the writing has been on the wall for awhile. They retake Eastern Europe and ally with Iran/Saudi/Syria, they will control all of Europe at that point.
Hard Power, hope and change doesn’t change reality
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM
But yes, Russia is the main threat to our existence as they have been since the start of the Cold War. We should have worked to isolate/eliminate that threat during the 90′s, but didn’t and now we have a new cold war and a socialist ‘fighting’ it for us.
It’s the price a nation pays for failing to lead when an opportunity such as the fall of the USSR presents itself.
ThackerAgency on November 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM
They heard him say he will cut defense spending.
The problem is, other countries are confused about our election process. They feel it is more devisive then it really is, they always underestimate the U.S. and that always causes us problems.
right2bright on November 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Biden was sooooo wrong… He said within 6 months… should have stated within 6 HOURS of winning the election.
Not to worry, Obama will simply move our missiles out of Poland.
gatorboy on November 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
There’s a third way: it’ll anger everyone, including his most loyal supporters, which is why they’ll be so desperately needed to help Obama shape public opinion in his favor.
That’s how I took it.
Here’s to hoping it’s the first one.
Esthier on November 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
But hey, it’s a good thing Pakistan is such a staunch ally of ours after 8 years of Bush’s foreign policy, isn’t it? I mean all that time and effort (and money) we spent because Pakistan was our ally really helped our foreign policy didn’t it?
We wasted the last 8 years of foreign policy trying to buddy up to a nobody on the global stage that hates our guts in Pakistan. Fantastic.
ThackerAgency on November 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Robert Kagan’s “Return of History and End of Dreams” is a must read btw
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:42 AM
That’ll be the definition of the Obama Doctrine: pre-capitulation.
Hey, it’s a big time saver!
Gilda on November 6, 2008 at 10:42 AM
these next 4 years are going to be very hard and dangerous
ConservativePartyNow on November 6, 2008 at 10:43 AM
No, O’Bama will look in Putin’s eyes and see T.R.U.S.T.
They are a ‘tiny’ nation anyway and no need to worry about them.
Starlink on November 6, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Yeah, Thacker, I think that American policy should be “Russia can devour any satellite state it wishes”. That’ll be big for freedoms sake,
Also, the missle shield isn’t solely for Russia, we needed it in place there against Iran.
Techie on November 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
a Nuclear Power with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in their backyard is not exactly a “nobody”.
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
What, no shoe banging? Medvedev must not be too worried at all.
Fletch54 on November 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM
And how were we ever going to “buddy up” with Czar Putin?
(This isn’t a return to Soviet Russia, this is Imperial Russia”
Techie on November 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Is that the banging of a shoe on a podium I hear?
aero on November 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM
The Left has some quick growing up to do. After a 6 year holiday from doing anything constructive in the realm of foreign policy they are about to be head-smacked into the real world with a 2×4 to the their collective noggins.
Watch Obama’s face today after he leaves the Nation Security briefing. Sometimes the wanting is better than the having…
Bruno Strozek on November 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM
And don’t think for a nanosecond that the other cast of despots out there aren’t watching Russia’s move with great care. Obama is likely praying that W takes a stand on these things. That way, Obama can do what he does best. Sit on the fence, blame someone else if things go bad, and then claim his “will won out” if things go well.
Also, watch Obama’s temples begin turning white. He gets to start seeing the security briefings today.
Yes, Barry. That comes with the job. Got a chant for that one?
God help us.
Sugar Land on November 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Barry O……I can see Russia from the white house!
grapeknutz on November 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM
You seem to be missing an essential word…it is not “putting missiles in…”, it is “putting a defense missile system…”
A big difference, we have made it quite clear that the missiles are for defense only.
Now why would Russia not want that…and why would you leave that important point out of your post?
right2bright on November 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM
This is contradictory to “globalization, we are the world and imagine all the people” thinking of current and future foreign policy.
Mr_Magoo on November 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
If Russia gets Georgia, why not let them take Latvia, Estonia, and The Ukraine?
Then China will go, “Hmmm, Taiwan is looking nice there”.
Techie on November 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
the delusional, think that Russia is only doing this because they think America and these Eastern States want to take Russia and interpret the Missle Defense stuff as a threat to their survival. When in reality its the complete opposite, the KGB has always had Global ambtions and they currently need the land and resources of Eastern Europe for the Autocratic Despot nation to survive.
the reality is the strong Nation-State has not died, and the Enlightenment Fantasy thinking found on the Left and the Right that says if you simply trade with a nation this type of stuff will not happen is delusional.
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Affront to Obama, perhaps. Personally I’d like to see the Europeans deal with this. Let them start pushing back.
Bush/Obama should tell the Russians they can put the missiles anywhere they like including up their ass.
Call them out and read them the riot act. Tell them the truth. That they are a pathetic criminal enterprise pretending to be a country with a dying population because collectively they are a bunch of degenerate tyrants since they clipped the czar.
Furthermore tell them that we play nice only because they have nuclear weapons because they may be stupid enough to use them otherwise the only thing they are good for is energy supplies and blondes on porn sites.
Finally tell Putin he should get some counseling on his runt complez.
patrick neid on November 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
…and it will also prove that Biden was right about Obama’s first six months. What a tool!
manwithblackhat on November 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Exactly, and the brainless that voted for Obama forgot or never heard of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs…the first and foremost need is survival! In other words the Obama-bots thought the economy and free government handouts were most important, however the economy and those free handouts won’t mean squat if our enemies are not kept in check!
Obama is very weak on defense and our enemies already know this and are salivating at the thought of doing whatever they want without fear of a US response, that’s the facts!
Although I do not wish any harm to come to our nation I’m afraid with such a weak president we are in for a rude awakening, and when it happens I want to see the looks on the faces of the lefties and Obama-bots when they realize they voted for “An American Idol” instead of a true leader!
They f-ed up when they voted for the empty suit and all of us will pay the price, and when the check comes due I will gladly rub their noses in it every chance I get!
Liberty or Death on November 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Are you seriously drawing a moral equivalent between the US during the Cuban missile crisis and this?
The 1961 situation was vastly different from this.
a. Russia installed offensive missiles to target US cities that would have significantly decreased the time of warning and response.
b. The current situation is a defensive missile shield designed to mitigate the threat from potential Iranian, Indian and Pakistan missiles.
You are a little too rah-rah for the russkies.
This is Putin’s puppet saber rattling to set the tone for further Russian advancement of their return to power status that started 3-4 years ago with the renewing of Russian bomber encroachments of our airspace and climaxed with the invasion of Georgia.
IMHO, they may have had the same initiative regardless of who was elected, but I think it is indicative of their willingness to call out a potential weak leader (Obama) as a punk while in the transition phase. They’ve set the agenda for the Obama administration and dictated the tempo. Good strategy.
However, you have to ask yourself, would they really have done this if McCain was the President-elect?
cryptojunkie on November 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Next steps:
1. Invasion of Poland
2. Invasion of Czech and Slovak republics
3. Increased selling of nuclear intelligence to North Korea and Iran
4. Increased threats to Israel.
and BAM!!! World War! We got us some changes all right.
mjk on November 6, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Great, a guy with ties to CAIR and the Nation of Islam and a known domestic terrorist. He couldn’t get a job at the Post Office with that kind of address list. Maybe we’ll see a little “hope and change” in him when he realizes this is more than a game.
But I doubt it.
manwithblackhat on November 6, 2008 at 10:49 AM
the Nukes the Soviets put in place in Cuba had nothing to do with “defense”.
It was actually a play on a weak president Kruschev had sized up and he got him to capitulate to him on everything he really wanted. Which was us retreating in Turkey and agreeing to never take out their satellite state in Cuba, which is why Castro is still in power to this day. The despicable deal RKF/JFK struck in secret that we now know about thinks to the Soviet Archives being released
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Jimmy Carter all over again. I had a funnier version of this comment but we will leave it at that. ;-)
worlok on November 6, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Looks like we are…you’re welcome
right2bright on November 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Medvedev: “We will crush you puny Americans like an over ripe tomato!”
SenatorPresident-elect Government: “Present!”Mr_Magoo on November 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I wonder if the gulping hordes that voted for this pillock Obama will ever develop the smarts to understand just how breathtakingly stupid their decision was. Will they ever have the higher conscience required to fully appreciate the injury they have inflicted on the rest of us, and America itself?
I doubt it – and this is what is killing America from within. Pretty soon there will be no reason consider America in the same terms as the Founding Fathers envisioned it. We will be “America” in name only.
LimeyGeek on November 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Anyone smell WWIII coming?
nobleclem on November 6, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Well Europe has the president they wanted, so I’m sure they will be pleased with whatever BO does
clnurnberg on November 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Diplomatic Memorandum
TO: The citizens of the United States
CC: The global community
FROM: Russia
SUBJECT: Your recent election
We congratulate you on your progressive choice for President.
We just wanted to let you know that we think he is a punk and we are going to sodomize him (and you) on the international stage of foreign relations.
Thank you and f*** your mother.
Sincerely,
Putin’s puppet
cryptojunkie on November 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Hugh Hewitt had a woman journalist yesterday and she was (half) jokingly talking about how we have gone from “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!” to “Yes We Can!”. She said can you imagine the founding fathers sitting around chanting “Yes We Can! Tes We Can!”
Funny if it wasn’t so sad.
Mr_Magoo on November 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Just a little reminder where our President-elect stands.
Will this be the first broken promise with ensuing lefty heads exploding? Is Reagan’s vision of SDI (Star Wars) officially dead?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on November 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM
OMG, you cannot be serious with that thought. Russia moving into was about Georgian self-reliance and wanting to join NATO.
“The Georgian leadership, by contrast, had come to believe that the constant pressure of Russian aggression, coupled with the West’s failure to accept Georgia into NATO, compelled them to demonstrate “self-reliance.” Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has been buying weapons in preparation for this moment. ”
This is from Slate mind you.
“Those who know him say he believed a military conflict was inevitable but could be won if conducted cleverly. As of Friday night, with Russian soldiers fighting in South Ossetia—only a few dozen miles from Tblisi, the Georgian capital—it seems as if he might have miscalculated, badly. Russia has not sent 150 tanks across that border in order to lose.”
“In any case, the time to deal with this conflict was two years ago or four years ago. That there was a security vacuum in the Caucasus; that this vacuum was dangerous; that war was likely; that Georgia, an eager ally of the United States, would not come out of it well; that a successful invasion of Georgia, a country with U.S. troops on its soil, would reflect badly on the West—all of that has been obvious for a long time. Cowardice, weakness, lack of ideas, and above all the distraction of other events prevented any deeper engagement. And now it may be too late.”
So, zero to do with missile deployment and everything to do with Georgia wanting to be in control of their borders in dealing with separatists. BTW, Georgia has a big interest in the separatist regions because of their oil and pipeline structure.
The only good news that came out of the affair was that Medvedev didn’t completely invade and continue occupying. It left most analyst thinking he realized the position was tentative or still held a healthy fear of NATO.
Dude, I wouldn’t throw out generalities of your opinion where it came to trying to influence strategic decisions. The answer would be to show Russia we do support Georgia, we do want them in NATO and we will deploy whatever weapons systems that takes.
You didn’t happen to notice all that Soviet hardware Hugo Chavez was buying did you?
hawkdriver on November 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM
some must read history, from Peter Schweizer author of “Reagan’s War” which the documentary “In the Face of Evil: Reagans War in word and deed” is based on
http://hnn.us/articles/1090.html
JFK invited the Cuban Missle crisis and was a complete disaster. Reagan is who they feared, and they were terrified of Missle Defense.
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:55 AM
And so, it begins.
And earlier than I thought.
Count to 10 on November 6, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Well, Bush is still the President and this is a provocative move by the Soviets. Bush is the one to respond and not Obama. But, it does reflect what is in store for The Anointed One.
MNDavenotPC on November 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Why is the US putting missiles in Poland?
Phoenician on November 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Are you ready for President Vlad 2.0?
This time it’s longer.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on November 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Dumbest comment of the day.
1. Our interceptors are defensive missiles; they contain zero explosives. They destroy threats with sheer kinetic energy (bullet with a bullet). They cannot be used for any other mission.
2. There will be a staggering 10 (ten!) interceptors based in Poland to counter a handful of rogue missile threats from the Middle East. Russia has 2,229 ICBMs.
Cuffy Meigs on November 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Hugh Hewitt had a woman journalist on his show yesterday
Oopsie!
Mr_Magoo on November 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Citizen of the World
Uncle Joe’s world…
phreshone on November 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Russia will have scooped up half the E.U. by 2012.
While we will be scaling down our military Russia and China will beef theirs up.
We are SKA-REWED!
TheSitRep on November 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Pssst. Good defense programs never die. They just are taken off the books.
cryptojunkie on November 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM
This is just like the Cuban missile crisis, but instead of Russia putting missiles on our hemisphere, we are putting missiles in Russia’s hemisphere.
I would hope that America would respond to Russia the same way that Russia is responding to America here.
ThackerAgency on November 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
With the Cuban Missile Crisis, Russia puts righteous NUKES in Cuba and aimed them directly at the U.S.A. … 35 miles from our coast.
We are not putting nukes in “Russia’s hemisphere”, we’re putting in a missile defense shield, missiles that would (hopefully) destroy any nuke ICBM’s or smaller that Russia would launch on Europe and possibly at America or any of our other allies.
Russia is a Thugocracy and they have to be put in check. The missile defense shield is in response to Russia’s mafia style leadership and defending our allies is not just the right thing to do, it is required, without hesitation.
It’s a big difference from 1962 to 2009 in technology and leadership.
In this case, I don’t think Obama will have the stones JFK had. Obama has already pledged not to ‘weaponize space’, so we can’t put up a missile defense shield there. It’s in bordering countries or the missile defense shield doesn’t exist.
FlatFoot on November 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM
all we can do as this unfolds, is sit back and politely remind our fellow Americans “What did you expect, we elected obama and took a weak posture”.
hopefully enough americans will puke up the kool-aide and wake up. Otherwise the world becomes a very ugly place quickly. Imagine if Obama really cuts military spending 25% in the face of this, gets rid of missles, lets Russia have its way, etc.
jp on November 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Very intelligent post.
cryptojunkie on November 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Maybe The One-elect can issue a statement and they will back off. It’s worked before. Just ask Kaine.
Mr_Magoo on November 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Doc, it’s a promise we PRAY he breaks. That kind of decision would at least start the thawing it would take for me to respect him as a leader.
hawkdriver on November 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM
To my Czech brothers (and Polish, Georgian, Ukranian and Baltic friends): I’m sorry that 63 million Americans told you to “f$#k off” and that the 41 years of slavery you suffered under the Soviet yoke were “not that bad.”
To those 63 million Americans: there will be blood on your hands, and I hope you rot in hell.
PimFortuynsGhost on November 6, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Expect Russia to set up puppet states in Ukraine, the Balkans, and Georgia within two years. Why not? They have nothing to fear from Obama.
bilups on November 6, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Sadly you’re right Limey, but I doubt the gulping hordes would ever admit they were wrong, even after our enemies hit us! They’ll just blame it on the previous two Bush administrations as being toblame for “the mess” and that we have to give Obambi a break as he’s only cleaning up after the “failed” Bush administration.
Yes the gulping hords totally f-ed up, I commented earlier on this:
Liberty or Death on November 6, 2008 at 11:00 AM
The lifelong ambition of the left is to make America just another country, one among many, because that’s what’s fair. They have spent decades trying to destroy the exceptionalism of America because no one can be any better than any one else in their view, one country is just as good as any other country.
And on Tuesday they succeeded.
johnsteele on November 6, 2008 at 11:00 AM
the sickest thing I’ve seen recently have been some on the paleo right lying about the Georgia/Russia conflict, claiming it was Georgia’s fault. Russia had been preparing and positioning its military for a long time to make that move. They want the land and the Oil Pipeline that feeds Europe, same with Ukraine.
this is USSR all over again
jp on November 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Doesn’t matter. The young whippersnappers and other inattentive Americans that voted for the good Senator don’t even know how many senators come from their home state, much less where Russia, Pakistan, Iran and NK are on a globe. They didn’t see a threat after 9/11/01 and blame America first for any of the world’s ills. As long as they have their iPhones and TMZ, all is right with the world.
At times my own countrymen scare me more than distant lands.
robblefarian on November 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM
“That’s not the Russia I knew!”
flyawaybird on November 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Obama is not fit to walk on the same planet as JFK. JFK was a war hero and had many accomplishments under his belt. And even then, he fucked up his first term. I don’t america is even close to prepared for the level of absolute fuckery Obama will bring. You’d have to go back to Harding or something to find a president who was as ineffectual and damaging as Obama will be.
bilups on November 6, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I thought about making a website were we apologize to these countries for what they are about to have happen to them with Obama like the left did in 2004 apologizing to the entire world for not electing Kerry.
jp on November 6, 2008 at 11:02 AM
sad thing is Poland just got finished building their Reagan Monument. I’m sure Putin will tear it down
jp on November 6, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Don’t worry, Obama and his communist friends in the senate will cut 35% of defense spending and we will surrender the country without firing a shot. Yeah…..that’s the ticket
tocoloro on November 6, 2008 at 11:03 AM
That would make Sectretary of State Ayers happy.
No, no, no, ingore my comment. Makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist.
hawkdriver on November 6, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Mr. Magoo
do I hold my breath?….lol
MNDavenotPC on November 6, 2008 at 11:04 AM
America, the non-factor. Thanks kids and blacks.
marklmail on November 6, 2008 at 11:05 AM
yep
hawkdriver on November 6, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Over 70% of jewish people in the US voted for Obama.
Good for them, don’t complain when the arabs kick them out of Israel; every country get wht it deserves.
tocoloro on November 6, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Scroll down to the glittering intellect of Keith Olbermann for an explantion (and map) of our European missile defense strategy.
Cuffy Meigs on November 6, 2008 at 11:06 AM
May as well get that first bump out of the way early. The first one is always hardest to swallow. There will be others,..I’m speaking of an Iranian nuclear test, within a year or two, if Israel doesn’t take them out, and some suicide bombings here in the U.S. which will be handled as strictly law enforcement problems. China vs Taiwan, Hezbollah taking another run at Lebanon’s political system, Russia invading the Ukraine, and OPEC getting frisky again, are others. It won’t be a pretty sight.
a capella on November 6, 2008 at 11:06 AM
I apologize for mutiliating the quote, but “all that is required for evil to prevail is that good men do nothing”.
Obama’s supporters are essentially good people – albeit shallow, thoughtless, intellectually lazy people – and they have shaped a decision that is vapid and hollow in its nothingness. This hails the ‘virtuous’ democratic slide into the void.
LimeyGeek on November 6, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Obama and his teleprompter need to go to Russia and give a speech – - that should calm them down and make them realize who they are dealing with…The ONE.
Rick on November 6, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Russia us obviously racist
angryed on November 6, 2008 at 11:07 AM
how long till China takes Taiwan
jp on November 6, 2008 at 11:07 AM
The only group that really voted for McCain, the republicans and liberty were the cubans in Miami. Over 65% of cubans in Miami voted for McCain; we can smell a communit rat from far
tocoloro on November 6, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Obama is already motioning frantically to Tom Brokaw to bail him out before the light turns red.
viking01 on November 6, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Obama will carry all the knowledge and understanding of Americas most dangerous enemy that Bush did. Zilch. And like Bush, Obama will be led by the enemy. The people that Western leadership say they can’t do without when dealing with these slippery radical ghosts. Your best friends and ally, your partners in peace, the Saudi’s.
It sure would be nice if commie Russia were still commie. Way easier to pretend to understand than the mystical Muhammedans.
BL@KBIRD on November 6, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I agree and please don’t take from my post above I thought that. Saakashvili’s prep for war was absolutely justified knowing Russias intent. The Slate article I CAPed from does infer he was a little Pollyannish about his chances. That just proves to me he’s a scrapper. We need Scappers in NATO.
hawkdriver on November 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM
It doesnt matter, we dont need no stinkin missile defence. Obama’s rainbow of hope and change will save and protect us all.
MDWNJ on November 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM
FIFY.
Kafir on November 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Aren’t we the commies now, since we just elected a Marxist?
Rick on November 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM
It’s hard to the throw the rising Russian Bear and the Red Army under the bus.
January 21, 2009
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on November 6, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Just keep your bullets dry, your guns well greased and hidden; you will need them to defend yourself
tocoloro on November 6, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Coolio. I can’t wait! I really do hope we have a hugh meltdown, terror attack, etc….! I love this country, but we need to see the messiah and this coutry slammed for electing him.
Mercy4Me on November 6, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Obama, Obama, he’s our Man,
If he can’t deal with Russia.
Nobody can.
Welcome back to Jimmy Carter diplomacy.
la.rt.wngr on November 6, 2008 at 11:13 AM
How long before Obama appoints John McCain as Co-President – The one that deals with foreign affairs?
Rick on November 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM
I expect Obama to do a “I don’t do foreign policy, give it to Biden” hand off.
In Russia rumors are that Medvedev is trying to change the term of President from 4 to 6 years and then resign in 2009 and Putin will become President again.
albill on November 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Ok,
This sums it all up in 5 words.
Marine_Bio on November 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM
I guess we’ll finally find out if the Left are true beleivers or if it was all b.s. and pandering to americans weaknesses for power.
given Obama’s marxist ties i’m not optimistic
jp on November 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Seriously…WTF…are the Jews suicidal or what?!?! Nothing like voting for your own demise!
*shakes head*
Liberty or Death on November 6, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Yeah, I was thinking something along those lines as I saw a car with an “Obama ’08″ sticker.
We will only have suffering here. Elsewhere, the suffering will come with death.
Count to 10 on November 6, 2008 at 11:19 AM
So, the day after the most well-liked president of all time was elected, the stock market dropped nearly 500 points (obviously the economic world is uber confident), Israel fires on Gaza, and Russia deploys some missiles in an obvious show of friendliness toward the US.
Hmm…
haikusrock on November 6, 2008 at 11:19 AM
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