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		<title>By: That’s what elections are for &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>That’s what elections are for &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Here comes the blame game:  It&#8217;s Palin&#8217;s Fault!...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Here comes the blame game:  It&#8217;s Palin&#8217;s Fault!&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Dollayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dollayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We need to do that through ideas, policies, and strong leadership, not by acting … well, like the Left did throughout much of the Bush years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why? The Dems won without ideas, policies and strong leadership. It is clear that Americans don&#039;t vote based on ideas, policies, and leadership but instead on style and skin color and DNA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We need to do that through ideas, policies, and strong leadership, not by acting … well, like the Left did throughout much of the Bush years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why? The Dems won without ideas, policies and strong leadership. It is clear that Americans don&#8217;t vote based on ideas, policies, and leadership but instead on style and skin color and DNA.</p>
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		<title>By: manofaiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>manofaiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moderate Republicans in this party won&#039;t even stand by one of their own anymore if he is trailing in the weeks leading up to the election. Poor John McCain. He did everything they wanted him to do. And they still deserted him like rats.

The David Brooks&#039;, the Peggy Noonan&#039;s, the Christopher Buckley&#039;s, the Kathleen Parker&#039;s, they all jumped ship because they could see what was coming.

I&#039;m a big fan of Ann Coulter, have been for years.  Michelle Malkin too.  

Question: If you&#039;ve read any of Ann&#039;s columns over the years, and Michelle&#039;s, did you ever notice what sort of opinion they have of the people that have been running the Republican Party even before Ronald Reagan rode off into the sunset?

Do they have a high opinion of them or a low opinion of them?

If you&#039;ve read their columns, you know very well that Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin have an EXTREMELY LOW OPINION of the current leadership in the Republican Party.

What reasons have been given for this very low opinion?

I can remember several.

1. They don&#039;t fight back. They spend a lot of time apologizing.....AFTER they have been unjustly attacked.

2. They really don&#039;t believe in conservatism, they don&#039;t think conservative issues are winning issues, and therefore treat the vast conservative base as almost an afterthought. They think forming a party that appeals to Dem&#039;s and Indys is more important than building a party that appeals to conservatives.

Here&#039;s your big heaping dose of reality, my fellow conservatives:

A real conservative hasn&#039;t run for President since Reagan in 1984. That was almost &lt;strong&gt;25 years ago.&lt;/strong&gt;

Who&#039;s headed each Republican ticket since then?

George H.W. Bush / Dan Quayle? Elected to one term, basically on the STRENGTH of promising to continue Reagan&#039;s successful policies. Unfortunately, as quickly became apparent (and was known all along inside Washington) Bush the Elder was no conservative; he was a moderate Republican and quickly reneged on some key principles, including breaking his promise not to raise taxes.

Here we see the &quot;Moderate Republican/Solid Conservative&quot; model tried and it worked - for one election. Dukakis ran proudly as a liberal, the last Dem. candidate to do so, making Bush&#039;s job much easier.

But against a Southern Governor running as a conservative &#039;New Democrat&#039;, the Clinton/Gore ticket managed to make Bush /Quayle look clueless and listless and tied to Washington.

Had the Dem&#039;s run a out and proud liberal Bush might have held his own even still, but against a fresh face, a &#039;conservative&#039; Dem from the South, old Washington hand Bush looked out of touch.

So the moderate Republican loses to the &#039;New Democrat&#039; who really was an ultra-liberal running in disguise.

Well by 1996 Bill Clinton&#039;s mask had dropped off. The country had watched scandal after scandal envelop him as well as seeing him break most of his campaign promises and governing as a doctrinaire liberal (something that led to the Republicans &#039;invading&#039; Congress and &#039;seizing&#039; power in the 1994 mid-terms).

So how is it a vulnerable Clinton won re-election handily?

Simple.

The moderate Republicans running the RNCC made sure one of their most moderate number won the nomination. Bob Dole.

Doles&#039; &quot;It&#039;s My Turn And I&#039;d Like The Job Even Though I Don&#039;t Have Any Big Ideas or Direction I&#039;d Like To Take The Country In&quot; campaign was as listless, lost and meandering as the one we just watched McCain suffer through.

Republican pundits like to focus on the fact that Dole got outspent 3 to 1 (while Obama just outspent McCain by an even larger margin - 5 to 1), but the simple fact of the matter is even if he had more money to spend that Clinton, Dole had no coherent message.

Once again the &#039;safe&#039; method of putting a Moderate Conservative at the top of the ticket with a Strong Conservative sidekick was tried. Bob Dole teamed up with Jack Kemp was supposed to be a ticket that would appeal to conservative Dems and independents,while pulling in some conservatives as well.

Despite the fact that the country knew exactly what it was getting....again.....it opted to return the Clintons to the White House rather than give Dole the job.

So.....gearing up for the 2000 campaign, the Republican party decided to........try the same thing again.

It found a Moderate Republican in Texas Governor George W. Bush, teamed him up with Dick Cheney, and ran him against Al Gore / Joe Lieberman.

What resulted was the closest election in modern history.

After winning the nomination by appealing to the conservative base, Bush then moved to the middle and tried the key RNCC strategy of trying to draw Dem&#039;s and Indys to the ticket.

Instead he almost lost the election.

Not content with almost screwing up 2000, Karl Rove and others convinced Bush to try it again in 2004, where once again Bush tacked to the middle, and instead of slaughtering John Kerry like he should have, Bush managed a narrow win.

Having learned absolutely nothing from 2000 and 2004, the RNCC decided to set up the nomination process for 2008 so that the most moderate/liberal parts of the country would choose the RNC frontrunner for the primaries. This was their strategy to ensure yet again that a Moderate Republican wound up on the top of the ticket.

And it worked.

John McCain won the nomination, then tried to get the conservative base to hop aboard the bandwagon by selecting Sarah Palin, Strong Conservative Governor of Alaska as his running mate.

The strategy, once again, was to have McCain tack strongly to the middle as a Moderate Republican so as to appeal to the 50 or so Moderate Republicans in the country, while also drawing in conservative Dem&#039;s and independantes, as Palin worked the heartland and drew in the hicks and bible-thumpers and hoi polloi from the Red States.

And once this time....not only did this flawed strategy not produce a narrow win, it instead delivered an election landslide in favor of a 1st term Senator with absolutely no record to run on.

What does this mean for 2012?

Here&#039;s your second Big Heaping Dose of Reality, my conservative friends.

The current Republican Party leadership is &lt;strong&gt;NOT GOING ANYWHERE unless BIG changes are made.&lt;/strong&gt;

Unless something is done, STARTING NOW, they will &lt;strong&gt;STILL BE THERE IN 2012.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;AND IF YOU THINK THERE&#039;S ANY CHANCE AT ALL THEY LET A REAL CONSERVATIVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE TOP OF THEIR TICKET, YOU ARE DREAMING, MY FRIENDS.&lt;/strong&gt;

Sarah Palin in 2012?

Are you NUTS?

Did you not just see what happened the last 7 weeks?

After trying to make her the &#039;fall guy&#039; for their failed strategy, and not even waiting for the election to be over before starting to point fingers at her, do you REALLY THINK these same people turn around and hand their nomination to her in 2012?

You&#039;re DREAMING.

In 2012 we end up with another Moderate Republican with some &#039;safe&#039; conservative tacked on as an afterthought to appeal to the hicks out there.

Plus every real conservative politician out there just had a 7 week primer on what they can expect should they step up to the plate even as the VP pick on the ticket.

They AND THEIR FAMILY can expect to get a big heaping dose of what Sarah Palin just got.

Sarah Palin in 2012?

She can throw her hat in the ring if she wants, but if she thinks the RNCC is going to even give her an exploratory phone call she&#039;s sadly mistaken. As far as they are concerned, they wouldn&#039;t mind if they never saw her again.

Would she even volunteer to put herself and her family through this again starting in 2010? She might. But if she does I&#039;m letting you know right now, I&#039;m preparing you all for the distinct lack of enthusiasm the Republican Party leadership would have for putting her anywhere near their ticket.

She would have to do what Reagan did, which is to build a coalition so strong and so big and so powerful that despite getting turned away for Ford in 1976, by 1980 even the RNCC had to finally hand him nomination, albeit reluctantly.

Could she do it?

I don&#039;t know. I hope she would. We need to have strong conservative leaders rise up and challenge these spineless cowards that are currently running the Republican party. She could be the first of many.

We have 2 years until the mid-terms in 2010. A lot can happen until then.

One of the things I hope to see happen is a huge hue and cry among conservatives everywhere as they see what Barack and Co. have planned for our country and focusing that outrage on the RNCC leadership and kicking them all out when it becomes apparent they not only have no coherent strategy to take the Democrats on, they are still stuck trying the same failed ideas of the past.

Barack Obama was not inevitable.

We have a RNCC that insists on running Moderate Republicans because they are CONVINCED conservatives &#039;frighten&#039; the country and could never win so they will never allow one to be at the top of their precious ticket.

It&#039;s time for a change - and THIS is change we conservatives can believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moderate Republicans in this party won&#8217;t even stand by one of their own anymore if he is trailing in the weeks leading up to the election. Poor John McCain. He did everything they wanted him to do. And they still deserted him like rats.</p>
<p>The David Brooks&#8217;, the Peggy Noonan&#8217;s, the Christopher Buckley&#8217;s, the Kathleen Parker&#8217;s, they all jumped ship because they could see what was coming.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of Ann Coulter, have been for years.  Michelle Malkin too.  </p>
<p>Question: If you&#8217;ve read any of Ann&#8217;s columns over the years, and Michelle&#8217;s, did you ever notice what sort of opinion they have of the people that have been running the Republican Party even before Ronald Reagan rode off into the sunset?</p>
<p>Do they have a high opinion of them or a low opinion of them?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve read their columns, you know very well that Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin have an EXTREMELY LOW OPINION of the current leadership in the Republican Party.</p>
<p>What reasons have been given for this very low opinion?</p>
<p>I can remember several.</p>
<p>1. They don&#8217;t fight back. They spend a lot of time apologizing&#8230;..AFTER they have been unjustly attacked.</p>
<p>2. They really don&#8217;t believe in conservatism, they don&#8217;t think conservative issues are winning issues, and therefore treat the vast conservative base as almost an afterthought. They think forming a party that appeals to Dem&#8217;s and Indys is more important than building a party that appeals to conservatives.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your big heaping dose of reality, my fellow conservatives:</p>
<p>A real conservative hasn&#8217;t run for President since Reagan in 1984. That was almost <strong>25 years ago.</strong></p>
<p>Who&#8217;s headed each Republican ticket since then?</p>
<p>George H.W. Bush / Dan Quayle? Elected to one term, basically on the STRENGTH of promising to continue Reagan&#8217;s successful policies. Unfortunately, as quickly became apparent (and was known all along inside Washington) Bush the Elder was no conservative; he was a moderate Republican and quickly reneged on some key principles, including breaking his promise not to raise taxes.</p>
<p>Here we see the &#8220;Moderate Republican/Solid Conservative&#8221; model tried and it worked &#8211; for one election. Dukakis ran proudly as a liberal, the last Dem. candidate to do so, making Bush&#8217;s job much easier.</p>
<p>But against a Southern Governor running as a conservative &#8216;New Democrat&#8217;, the Clinton/Gore ticket managed to make Bush /Quayle look clueless and listless and tied to Washington.</p>
<p>Had the Dem&#8217;s run a out and proud liberal Bush might have held his own even still, but against a fresh face, a &#8216;conservative&#8217; Dem from the South, old Washington hand Bush looked out of touch.</p>
<p>So the moderate Republican loses to the &#8216;New Democrat&#8217; who really was an ultra-liberal running in disguise.</p>
<p>Well by 1996 Bill Clinton&#8217;s mask had dropped off. The country had watched scandal after scandal envelop him as well as seeing him break most of his campaign promises and governing as a doctrinaire liberal (something that led to the Republicans &#8216;invading&#8217; Congress and &#8217;seizing&#8217; power in the 1994 mid-terms).</p>
<p>So how is it a vulnerable Clinton won re-election handily?</p>
<p>Simple.</p>
<p>The moderate Republicans running the RNCC made sure one of their most moderate number won the nomination. Bob Dole.</p>
<p>Doles&#8217; &#8220;It&#8217;s My Turn And I&#8217;d Like The Job Even Though I Don&#8217;t Have Any Big Ideas or Direction I&#8217;d Like To Take The Country In&#8221; campaign was as listless, lost and meandering as the one we just watched McCain suffer through.</p>
<p>Republican pundits like to focus on the fact that Dole got outspent 3 to 1 (while Obama just outspent McCain by an even larger margin &#8211; 5 to 1), but the simple fact of the matter is even if he had more money to spend that Clinton, Dole had no coherent message.</p>
<p>Once again the &#8217;safe&#8217; method of putting a Moderate Conservative at the top of the ticket with a Strong Conservative sidekick was tried. Bob Dole teamed up with Jack Kemp was supposed to be a ticket that would appeal to conservative Dems and independents,while pulling in some conservatives as well.</p>
<p>Despite the fact that the country knew exactly what it was getting&#8230;.again&#8230;..it opted to return the Clintons to the White House rather than give Dole the job.</p>
<p>So&#8230;..gearing up for the 2000 campaign, the Republican party decided to&#8230;&#8230;..try the same thing again.</p>
<p>It found a Moderate Republican in Texas Governor George W. Bush, teamed him up with Dick Cheney, and ran him against Al Gore / Joe Lieberman.</p>
<p>What resulted was the closest election in modern history.</p>
<p>After winning the nomination by appealing to the conservative base, Bush then moved to the middle and tried the key RNCC strategy of trying to draw Dem&#8217;s and Indys to the ticket.</p>
<p>Instead he almost lost the election.</p>
<p>Not content with almost screwing up 2000, Karl Rove and others convinced Bush to try it again in 2004, where once again Bush tacked to the middle, and instead of slaughtering John Kerry like he should have, Bush managed a narrow win.</p>
<p>Having learned absolutely nothing from 2000 and 2004, the RNCC decided to set up the nomination process for 2008 so that the most moderate/liberal parts of the country would choose the RNC frontrunner for the primaries. This was their strategy to ensure yet again that a Moderate Republican wound up on the top of the ticket.</p>
<p>And it worked.</p>
<p>John McCain won the nomination, then tried to get the conservative base to hop aboard the bandwagon by selecting Sarah Palin, Strong Conservative Governor of Alaska as his running mate.</p>
<p>The strategy, once again, was to have McCain tack strongly to the middle as a Moderate Republican so as to appeal to the 50 or so Moderate Republicans in the country, while also drawing in conservative Dem&#8217;s and independantes, as Palin worked the heartland and drew in the hicks and bible-thumpers and hoi polloi from the Red States.</p>
<p>And once this time&#8230;.not only did this flawed strategy not produce a narrow win, it instead delivered an election landslide in favor of a 1st term Senator with absolutely no record to run on.</p>
<p>What does this mean for 2012?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your second Big Heaping Dose of Reality, my conservative friends.</p>
<p>The current Republican Party leadership is <strong>NOT GOING ANYWHERE unless BIG changes are made.</strong></p>
<p>Unless something is done, STARTING NOW, they will <strong>STILL BE THERE IN 2012.</strong></p>
<p><strong>AND IF YOU THINK THERE&#8217;S ANY CHANCE AT ALL THEY LET A REAL CONSERVATIVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE TOP OF THEIR TICKET, YOU ARE DREAMING, MY FRIENDS.</strong></p>
<p>Sarah Palin in 2012?</p>
<p>Are you NUTS?</p>
<p>Did you not just see what happened the last 7 weeks?</p>
<p>After trying to make her the &#8216;fall guy&#8217; for their failed strategy, and not even waiting for the election to be over before starting to point fingers at her, do you REALLY THINK these same people turn around and hand their nomination to her in 2012?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re DREAMING.</p>
<p>In 2012 we end up with another Moderate Republican with some &#8217;safe&#8217; conservative tacked on as an afterthought to appeal to the hicks out there.</p>
<p>Plus every real conservative politician out there just had a 7 week primer on what they can expect should they step up to the plate even as the VP pick on the ticket.</p>
<p>They AND THEIR FAMILY can expect to get a big heaping dose of what Sarah Palin just got.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin in 2012?</p>
<p>She can throw her hat in the ring if she wants, but if she thinks the RNCC is going to even give her an exploratory phone call she&#8217;s sadly mistaken. As far as they are concerned, they wouldn&#8217;t mind if they never saw her again.</p>
<p>Would she even volunteer to put herself and her family through this again starting in 2010? She might. But if she does I&#8217;m letting you know right now, I&#8217;m preparing you all for the distinct lack of enthusiasm the Republican Party leadership would have for putting her anywhere near their ticket.</p>
<p>She would have to do what Reagan did, which is to build a coalition so strong and so big and so powerful that despite getting turned away for Ford in 1976, by 1980 even the RNCC had to finally hand him nomination, albeit reluctantly.</p>
<p>Could she do it?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. I hope she would. We need to have strong conservative leaders rise up and challenge these spineless cowards that are currently running the Republican party. She could be the first of many.</p>
<p>We have 2 years until the mid-terms in 2010. A lot can happen until then.</p>
<p>One of the things I hope to see happen is a huge hue and cry among conservatives everywhere as they see what Barack and Co. have planned for our country and focusing that outrage on the RNCC leadership and kicking them all out when it becomes apparent they not only have no coherent strategy to take the Democrats on, they are still stuck trying the same failed ideas of the past.</p>
<p>Barack Obama was not inevitable.</p>
<p>We have a RNCC that insists on running Moderate Republicans because they are CONVINCED conservatives &#8216;frighten&#8217; the country and could never win so they will never allow one to be at the top of their precious ticket.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for a change &#8211; and THIS is change we conservatives can believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: The Heretik : Say the Word</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Heretik : Say the Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spiritk9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiritk9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the assessment that &quot;America is dead&quot; after one election goes extremely sour. We&#039;ve had bad times before and we&#039;ll overcome this too. The left wingers out there need a reminder of what the Carter days were like, clearly. They&#039;re going to get it, and there will be nobody to blame but themselves for this. Meanwhile, we have the next 2 years to pound it into their heads that the liberals have had the house majority and made a bigger mess than the conservatives did.

This aside however, I will do absolutely nothing to support this creep, and I&#039;ll work against every liberal (and marxist) thing he tries to get done while he&#039;s in office. 

Swiss bank accounts FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the assessment that &#8220;America is dead&#8221; after one election goes extremely sour. We&#8217;ve had bad times before and we&#8217;ll overcome this too. The left wingers out there need a reminder of what the Carter days were like, clearly. They&#8217;re going to get it, and there will be nobody to blame but themselves for this. Meanwhile, we have the next 2 years to pound it into their heads that the liberals have had the house majority and made a bigger mess than the conservatives did.</p>
<p>This aside however, I will do absolutely nothing to support this creep, and I&#8217;ll work against every liberal (and marxist) thing he tries to get done while he&#8217;s in office. </p>
<p>Swiss bank accounts FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiritk9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiritk9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I always support the best for our country, I will never support the man that just won the presidency. There might be a policy here and there I may agree with, but I despise the leftist p.o.s. (and his wife) that want so desperately to turn this country into a european style left wing toilet.

If he reached out to shake my hand, I&#039;d turn my back on him all the while resisting the urge to spit in his hand first. Why? Because when it comes down to it I know this man won&#039;t fight FOR America, he&#039;ll instead apologize for it. The amount of mindless asshats that supported him and are willing to do the same in this country make me ill.

So I wait for better days. Meanwhile, I&#039;ll not do a damn thing to support this cardboard figure of a human, and I&#039;ll resist every turn he makes to the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I always support the best for our country, I will never support the man that just won the presidency. There might be a policy here and there I may agree with, but I despise the leftist p.o.s. (and his wife) that want so desperately to turn this country into a european style left wing toilet.</p>
<p>If he reached out to shake my hand, I&#8217;d turn my back on him all the while resisting the urge to spit in his hand first. Why? Because when it comes down to it I know this man won&#8217;t fight FOR America, he&#8217;ll instead apologize for it. The amount of mindless asshats that supported him and are willing to do the same in this country make me ill.</p>
<p>So I wait for better days. Meanwhile, I&#8217;ll not do a damn thing to support this cardboard figure of a human, and I&#8217;ll resist every turn he makes to the left.</p>
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		<title>By: NY Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>NY Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It truly saddens me that the Majority whore`d themselves out for the sake of empty meaningless words and a handout. 
It truly saddens me that the country I LOVE, the country that my parents told me had no limits is gone, it has been for a while now, yesterday just reaffirmed this.
It saddens me that 63 MILLION people took the bait, hook line &amp; sinker.
It saddens me to envision the very real prospect of having my personal Liberties d!cked with.
It saddens me that the media and all of it`s shills and minions are the only means of information for ...oh about 63 MILLION sheeple.
It saddens me that the future has just become much bleaker for my children, and their children, and so on.
It saddens me that apparently there are somewhere around 63 MILLION sheeple who never knew, or have lost the ability to think fo themselves.
It saddens me that for at LEAST the next 4 years I will be forced to see and hear the voice of a man who I would not have voted in for dog catcher.
63 MILLION can`t be wrong...could they?
Through all of this disappointment and 

I am glad that I still have my health
I am glad that I have a spouse who I love dearly, as she does me.
I am glad to have 3 GREAT kids who even thought they are sort of young, they &quot;GET IT&quot;, and will continue to, as long as there is air in my lungs.
I am glad that I am NOT alone, for while there were 63 MILLION who DON`T get it, there are 56 MILLION who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It truly saddens me that the Majority whore`d themselves out for the sake of empty meaningless words and a handout.<br />
It truly saddens me that the country I LOVE, the country that my parents told me had no limits is gone, it has been for a while now, yesterday just reaffirmed this.<br />
It saddens me that 63 MILLION people took the bait, hook line &amp; sinker.<br />
It saddens me to envision the very real prospect of having my personal Liberties d!cked with.<br />
It saddens me that the media and all of it`s shills and minions are the only means of information for &#8230;oh about 63 MILLION sheeple.<br />
It saddens me that the future has just become much bleaker for my children, and their children, and so on.<br />
It saddens me that apparently there are somewhere around 63 MILLION sheeple who never knew, or have lost the ability to think fo themselves.<br />
It saddens me that for at LEAST the next 4 years I will be forced to see and hear the voice of a man who I would not have voted in for dog catcher.<br />
63 MILLION can`t be wrong&#8230;could they?<br />
Through all of this disappointment and </p>
<p>I am glad that I still have my health<br />
I am glad that I have a spouse who I love dearly, as she does me.<br />
I am glad to have 3 GREAT kids who even thought they are sort of young, they &#8220;GET IT&#8221;, and will continue to, as long as there is air in my lungs.<br />
I am glad that I am NOT alone, for while there were 63 MILLION who DON`T get it, there are 56 MILLION who do.</p>
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		<title>By: worlok</title>
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		<dc:creator>worlok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Last night America died and the People’s Republic of US was born. I went through socialism early in my life I saw first hand what this system will do to our great nation.
Moving to the US was the greatest blessing for me. Served 4 years in the US Army and 8 in the NJ National Guard, serving my adopted country has been my greatest honor. I work very hard for my education and every thing I have been able to accomplish so far in life. I never asked the government to do nothing for me; I believed in personal freedom and personal responsibility the core values of this great nation. I fear demo-rats will work very hard at destroying the moral values that made this country the greatest Nation in the world. Many of these moron liberals tell me that this country will no be socialist we just want to take the money from the rich and redistribute to the poor. I guess so many of them don’t have the IQ to understand the basic concept of socialism. Them the majority of people in this country yesterday told our troops their scarified mean nothing to them. Many of our great men have died for nothing. Those republicans who supported Obama thinking by defeating McCain the party will come back in 2010. I got news for those morons; Democrats will make sure Republicans are in the minority for the next twenty to thirty years. We need to stop pointing fingers, the election was lost due to one person only Mc Cain. The born again Christians and evangelicals who had a problem with Mitt Rodney Religion are the ones who will kick themselves in the ass now. I say, in the next four years Obama will put most of them out of business.

Today when I dropped my kids at school I saw the majority of them going to class with Obama’s buttons. I thought Catholics schools did not allow any display of politics in the class room. If want them to be indoctrinated I will send them to public school. Even one of the priests had one on him. To be fair I’m disgusting with my church too and I’m thinking to change my membership to a more conservative one. This is the second time the Catholic Church let me down. Any suggestion I’m open. Last night we decided with my wife to move out of the peoples Republic of NJ to a more conservative state. Here I’m surrounded by the most stupid people in the planet. Democrats have destroyed this great State and people here keep voting for them.

Republicans need to come back to the Reagan conservative principles to win again. If they try to be more like dumb liberals they are doom. We need new effective leadership in the party, so for the next ten to twenty years we have to work hard to regain the trust of the American people to bring the country back to its greatness.

pukara61 on November 5, 2008 at 12:18 PM
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The Catholic school thing bothers me.  My kid goes to a Catholic school and I have heard some stuff about the new principal.  I asked him to report to me any teachers or the principal displaying Obama stuff, which I will immediately bring up with the Parish Pastor, who has been preaching for LIFE lately at Mass.  I think that we need to have to have some good old fashioned reeducation in that school.  This priest might be sympathetic since although he is young, his stance on Pro Life is pretty strict.

I&#039;m in NJ too, and what you say is correct.

I remember the days of Reagan, fondly.  I lived in Wallington, a Polish immigrant outpost.  Everyone was for the Gipper, and the Pope, and Lech Walesa vs the commies.

I have to print out a nice Reagan photo to hang on my wall in my computer room to make me feel better about this.  I miss Reagan so much these days.  He was a great one.  I remember, as a young teen, watching his speeches on TV and feeling so safe and secure, in spite of the Cold War, with him as our leader.  What a great man.  God Bless Ronald Reagan&#039;s fearless soul.</description>
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<p>Last night America died and the People’s Republic of US was born. I went through socialism early in my life I saw first hand what this system will do to our great nation.<br />
Moving to the US was the greatest blessing for me. Served 4 years in the US Army and 8 in the NJ National Guard, serving my adopted country has been my greatest honor. I work very hard for my education and every thing I have been able to accomplish so far in life. I never asked the government to do nothing for me; I believed in personal freedom and personal responsibility the core values of this great nation. I fear demo-rats will work very hard at destroying the moral values that made this country the greatest Nation in the world. Many of these moron liberals tell me that this country will no be socialist we just want to take the money from the rich and redistribute to the poor. I guess so many of them don’t have the IQ to understand the basic concept of socialism. Them the majority of people in this country yesterday told our troops their scarified mean nothing to them. Many of our great men have died for nothing. Those republicans who supported Obama thinking by defeating McCain the party will come back in 2010. I got news for those morons; Democrats will make sure Republicans are in the minority for the next twenty to thirty years. We need to stop pointing fingers, the election was lost due to one person only Mc Cain. The born again Christians and evangelicals who had a problem with Mitt Rodney Religion are the ones who will kick themselves in the ass now. I say, in the next four years Obama will put most of them out of business.</p>
<p>Today when I dropped my kids at school I saw the majority of them going to class with Obama’s buttons. I thought Catholics schools did not allow any display of politics in the class room. If want them to be indoctrinated I will send them to public school. Even one of the priests had one on him. To be fair I’m disgusting with my church too and I’m thinking to change my membership to a more conservative one. This is the second time the Catholic Church let me down. Any suggestion I’m open. Last night we decided with my wife to move out of the peoples Republic of NJ to a more conservative state. Here I’m surrounded by the most stupid people in the planet. Democrats have destroyed this great State and people here keep voting for them.</p>
<p>Republicans need to come back to the Reagan conservative principles to win again. If they try to be more like dumb liberals they are doom. We need new effective leadership in the party, so for the next ten to twenty years we have to work hard to regain the trust of the American people to bring the country back to its greatness.</p>
<p>pukara61 on November 5, 2008 at 12:18 PM
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<p>The Catholic school thing bothers me.  My kid goes to a Catholic school and I have heard some stuff about the new principal.  I asked him to report to me any teachers or the principal displaying Obama stuff, which I will immediately bring up with the Parish Pastor, who has been preaching for LIFE lately at Mass.  I think that we need to have to have some good old fashioned reeducation in that school.  This priest might be sympathetic since although he is young, his stance on Pro Life is pretty strict.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in NJ too, and what you say is correct.</p>
<p>I remember the days of Reagan, fondly.  I lived in Wallington, a Polish immigrant outpost.  Everyone was for the Gipper, and the Pope, and Lech Walesa vs the commies.</p>
<p>I have to print out a nice Reagan photo to hang on my wall in my computer room to make me feel better about this.  I miss Reagan so much these days.  He was a great one.  I remember, as a young teen, watching his speeches on TV and feeling so safe and secure, in spite of the Cold War, with him as our leader.  What a great man.  God Bless Ronald Reagan&#8217;s fearless soul.</p>
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		<title>By: RED.inca</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/05/thats-what-elections-are-for/comment-page-4/#comment-1612565</link>
		<dc:creator>RED.inca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the thick &quot;blue&quot; morning fog of the day after, ask yourself some basic questions.

We patriots that resisted the $Billion-Messiah Brand, some 57 million voters; who,what,how,when &amp; why.
 
WHO: Mccain,a 72 yr old Vietnam War-hero,a mediocre speaker with left the impression, he was giving his best Bob Dole imitation, ran as the RINO,Reagan Democrat,masquerading as a moderate Maverick, who campaigned with a concession 
speech.

WHAT:The MSM, every network, save Fox, conspired since election day 2000, to destroy the Bush Administration, Conservativism, re-write history; Iraq, 9/11,Katrina
Gitmo, the Patriot Act, relentlessly grinding down,demeaning, confusing, demoralizing the silent majority...All the while they cynically spewed lies,
SIMULTANEOUSLY running intereference for the Democratic politicians, paving the way for the &quot;inevitable&quot; candidate,
Barack Obama, giving &quot;THE ONE&quot; a free pass on all issues, his inexperience, past, radical marxism, flip flops etc...
EASILY ADDED 12% TO HIS VOTE TOTAL IN EVERY STATE !!!

HOW: MCCAIN&#039;S CAMPAIGN STRATEGY FAILED
Coming out of the REP Convention, with the BRILLIANT selection of Sarah as VP, the Mccain campaign ran a flailing and erratic campaign. So consumed with being honorable, while playing softball on the trail chanting, 
&quot;My Friends,My Friends&quot;; the friendly Media ran negative newstories 57% (more than double Obama&#039;s)vs 21% favorable...
   
    How come he straightjacketed his own campaign taking Rev
Wright, all the skeletons in Obamas closet off the table.
It took precious time  for him to polish  his image and  message, so he garnered the MSM award of being meanspirited
and running the negative campaign.

    As we scratch our heads, the MTv, transformative Champion of hope &amp; change, leveraged his hipness and coolness - great marketing and packaging -
as he performed like a Zenmaster reading hypnotic platitudes to the delight of his minions, the media and a public looking for something new and different. Smells alot like &quot;WHITE GUILT&quot; + the new road to Camelot, to me.

WHEN: The turning point - MCCAIN/PALIN had scratched and clawed to inch ahead in several polls up to Sept 15 -
that is when the market crashed and the financial meltdown
consumed all other issues.

      Within 24 hours the polls bought the spin that Obama 
      has the right stuff -the demeanor &amp; temperment to
      handle the Economy &amp; the Crisis !!!

Mccain stumbled and was crucified as he fumbled what was to be the only issue that ever would count!

It took Joe the plumber, to ask the only question Obama ever got - including the debates and interviews he bobbed and weaved through since he finessed the nomination.

WHY: MCCAIN LOST

I do not buy into the concept Obama won.

Mccain failed to win the EV &amp; the popular vote BECAUSE -

        
The Maverick, with a career trackrecord of distancing himself from ReaganConservative ideas &amp; votes, ran to champion &amp; embrace democrat- bipartisan travesties 
like MccainFinegold, MccainKennedy, etc...etc...

His reward -- Independents , lost them 60% - 39%
              Under 30 voters, lost&#039;em 67% - 33%
              Hispanic voters, crushed 2:1
              Lost 20% of Exit poll Conservatives 

This from an electorate best described of 22 % liberal,
34% conservative

Thanks to Sarah, he held 89% of Republicans.

With some hindsight, here in homestate of California,
and so hopelessly &quot;blue&quot; and plagued by years of reckless spending &amp; now with inpending bankruptcy at its doorstep...

PROP 8 - PASSED REAFFIRMING MARRIAGE - 
The penultimate CONSERVATIVE CULTURE ISSUE 

Like the Carter win that created the Reagan Revolution 

ELECTION 2008 will give CONSERVATIVES 

the opportunity to take back the party

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the thick &#8220;blue&#8221; morning fog of the day after, ask yourself some basic questions.</p>
<p>We patriots that resisted the $Billion-Messiah Brand, some 57 million voters; who,what,how,when &amp; why.</p>
<p>WHO: Mccain,a 72 yr old Vietnam War-hero,a mediocre speaker with left the impression, he was giving his best Bob Dole imitation, ran as the RINO,Reagan Democrat,masquerading as a moderate Maverick, who campaigned with a concession<br />
speech.</p>
<p>WHAT:The MSM, every network, save Fox, conspired since election day 2000, to destroy the Bush Administration, Conservativism, re-write history; Iraq, 9/11,Katrina<br />
Gitmo, the Patriot Act, relentlessly grinding down,demeaning, confusing, demoralizing the silent majority&#8230;All the while they cynically spewed lies,<br />
SIMULTANEOUSLY running intereference for the Democratic politicians, paving the way for the &#8220;inevitable&#8221; candidate,<br />
Barack Obama, giving &#8220;THE ONE&#8221; a free pass on all issues, his inexperience, past, radical marxism, flip flops etc&#8230;<br />
EASILY ADDED 12% TO HIS VOTE TOTAL IN EVERY STATE !!!</p>
<p>HOW: MCCAIN&#8217;S CAMPAIGN STRATEGY FAILED<br />
Coming out of the REP Convention, with the BRILLIANT selection of Sarah as VP, the Mccain campaign ran a flailing and erratic campaign. So consumed with being honorable, while playing softball on the trail chanting,<br />
&#8220;My Friends,My Friends&#8221;; the friendly Media ran negative newstories 57% (more than double Obama&#8217;s)vs 21% favorable&#8230;</p>
<p>    How come he straightjacketed his own campaign taking Rev<br />
Wright, all the skeletons in Obamas closet off the table.<br />
It took precious time  for him to polish  his image and  message, so he garnered the MSM award of being meanspirited<br />
and running the negative campaign.</p>
<p>    As we scratch our heads, the MTv, transformative Champion of hope &amp; change, leveraged his hipness and coolness &#8211; great marketing and packaging -<br />
as he performed like a Zenmaster reading hypnotic platitudes to the delight of his minions, the media and a public looking for something new and different. Smells alot like &#8220;WHITE GUILT&#8221; + the new road to Camelot, to me.</p>
<p>WHEN: The turning point &#8211; MCCAIN/PALIN had scratched and clawed to inch ahead in several polls up to Sept 15 -<br />
that is when the market crashed and the financial meltdown<br />
consumed all other issues.</p>
<p>      Within 24 hours the polls bought the spin that Obama<br />
      has the right stuff -the demeanor &amp; temperment to<br />
      handle the Economy &amp; the Crisis !!!</p>
<p>Mccain stumbled and was crucified as he fumbled what was to be the only issue that ever would count!</p>
<p>It took Joe the plumber, to ask the only question Obama ever got &#8211; including the debates and interviews he bobbed and weaved through since he finessed the nomination.</p>
<p>WHY: MCCAIN LOST</p>
<p>I do not buy into the concept Obama won.</p>
<p>Mccain failed to win the EV &amp; the popular vote BECAUSE -</p>
<p>The Maverick, with a career trackrecord of distancing himself from ReaganConservative ideas &amp; votes, ran to champion &amp; embrace democrat- bipartisan travesties<br />
like MccainFinegold, MccainKennedy, etc&#8230;etc&#8230;</p>
<p>His reward &#8212; Independents , lost them 60% &#8211; 39%<br />
              Under 30 voters, lost&#8217;em 67% &#8211; 33%<br />
              Hispanic voters, crushed 2:1<br />
              Lost 20% of Exit poll Conservatives </p>
<p>This from an electorate best described of 22 % liberal,<br />
34% conservative</p>
<p>Thanks to Sarah, he held 89% of Republicans.</p>
<p>With some hindsight, here in homestate of California,<br />
and so hopelessly &#8220;blue&#8221; and plagued by years of reckless spending &amp; now with inpending bankruptcy at its doorstep&#8230;</p>
<p>PROP 8 &#8211; PASSED REAFFIRMING MARRIAGE &#8211;<br />
The penultimate CONSERVATIVE CULTURE ISSUE </p>
<p>Like the Carter win that created the Reagan Revolution </p>
<p>ELECTION 2008 will give CONSERVATIVES </p>
<p>the opportunity to take back the party</p>
<p>and the future.</p>
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		<title>By: doublenaught spy</title>
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		<dc:creator>doublenaught spy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rockmom, good list but perhaps we should start with a different first item on the &quot; Must Do&quot; list. How about a national standard for voter registration combined with a photo id requirement.  I know our heritage with &quot;States Rights&quot; concerns, being a southerner, but until there is one and only one accepted way of handling this problem, then we will see it again. Please remember folks &quot;you always learn more from your trials than your victories&quot; (my dad, god rest his soul)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rockmom, good list but perhaps we should start with a different first item on the &#8221; Must Do&#8221; list. How about a national standard for voter registration combined with a photo id requirement.  I know our heritage with &#8220;States Rights&#8221; concerns, being a southerner, but until there is one and only one accepted way of handling this problem, then we will see it again. Please remember folks &#8220;you always learn more from your trials than your victories&#8221; (my dad, god rest his soul)</p>
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		<title>By: On the Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>On the Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Moving On...&lt;/strong&gt;

That&#8217;s what elections are for
Congratulations go to Barack Obama for his victory last night.  He did what few Democrats have managed to do this century: win majorities
in both popular vote and the Electoral College.  Bill Clinton......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Moving On&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what elections are for<br />
Congratulations go to Barack Obama for his victory last night.  He did what few Democrats have managed to do this century: win majorities<br />
in both popular vote and the Electoral College.  Bill Clinton&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pelosi: Voters Gave Us A Mandate &#124; BigMouthFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelosi: Voters Gave Us A Mandate &#124; BigMouthFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told supporters in Washington that today&#8217;s results show &#8220;the American people have called for a new direction.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told supporters in Washington that today&#8217;s results show &#8220;the American people have called for a new direction.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Race Card</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Race Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dude, whatever you managed to post before of interest, is completely lost after that staement. Not helpful.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh huh. &lt;em&gt;Osama Obama&lt;/em&gt; is better, right? Ever complain about that. Insults like that, targeting  a sitting POTUS or candidate, denigrate the user more than the object of their derision. You are two fools sharing one standard. How efficient.


***&lt;blockquote&gt;
call a spade a spade&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hiding behind colloquialisms won&#039;t mask the truth behind your words. Don&#039;t be a tease. Say what you mean you friggin wuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dude, whatever you managed to post before of interest, is completely lost after that staement. Not helpful.</p>
<p>hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh huh. <em>Osama Obama</em> is better, right? Ever complain about that. Insults like that, targeting  a sitting POTUS or candidate, denigrate the user more than the object of their derision. You are two fools sharing one standard. How efficient.</p>
<p>***<br />
<blockquote>
call a spade a spade</p></blockquote>
<p>Hiding behind colloquialisms won&#8217;t mask the truth behind your words. Don&#8217;t be a tease. Say what you mean you friggin wuss.</p>
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		<title>By: UltimateBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>UltimateBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how I&#039;m feeling this morning towards many of my &quot;fellow Americans&quot;:
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmw6Jne0tAQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You Maniacs!!! You blew it up!!! God Damn you!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how I&#8217;m feeling this morning towards many of my &#8220;fellow Americans&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmw6Jne0tAQ" rel="nofollow">You Maniacs!!! You blew it up!!! God Damn you!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spanish Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spanish Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ganó Obama (act.)...&lt;/strong&gt;

No me ha gustado mucho Bush por su incoherencia, pero creo que Obama le va a hacer bueno......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ganó Obama (act.)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>No me ha gustado mucho Bush por su incoherencia, pero creo que Obama le va a hacer bueno&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pannw</title>
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		<dc:creator>pannw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;pukara61 on November 5, 2008 at 12:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m Catholic as well and understand your frustration.  I live in a conservative county in a conservative state, Tennessee.  However, I have been very disappointed in the Churches around me.  Pretty social justice minded places, rather than any sort of orthodoxy.  Actually, the majority of the people I know who voted for Obama in this area are the Catholics and I can see how after attending a number of the local parishes.  My children and I drive into Nashville for Mass at an old church, because it actually seems Catholic and the priest is &#039;old school&#039;.  They actually have a crucifix over the altar and the Tabernacle is even in the church.  Imagine that... We even get to receive the Eucharist on our knees at the old Communion rail, since it is a historic building and they weren&#039;t allowed to gut it. 

At any rate, it keeps me sane for now, but after this election, I really want to buy some land.  I think we should pull out of our 401ks and invest the money elsewhere while we can.  This area is just too expensive, and again, I’m not thrilled with my Catholic options so I&#039;m seriously considering trying to talk my husband into investing in some in Alabama, near the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament.  EWTN is just south of there, outside of Birmingham and Mother Angelica&#039;s sisters and priests are very devout.  The land is fertile, and the cost of living is relatively low.  Of course, there isn&#039;t a large Catholic population in Alabama, but I grew up there and the Shrine is attracting people.  I have sisters in Birmingham and my parents and another sister just south of Huntsville.  I don&#039;t know...but I&#039;m feeling the pull.  I don&#039;t know if it is just panic over the election and will subside, or if someone is trying to tell me something.  Anyway...

Just fyi if you are serious about moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>pukara61 on November 5, 2008 at 12:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m Catholic as well and understand your frustration.  I live in a conservative county in a conservative state, Tennessee.  However, I have been very disappointed in the Churches around me.  Pretty social justice minded places, rather than any sort of orthodoxy.  Actually, the majority of the people I know who voted for Obama in this area are the Catholics and I can see how after attending a number of the local parishes.  My children and I drive into Nashville for Mass at an old church, because it actually seems Catholic and the priest is &#8216;old school&#8217;.  They actually have a crucifix over the altar and the Tabernacle is even in the church.  Imagine that&#8230; We even get to receive the Eucharist on our knees at the old Communion rail, since it is a historic building and they weren&#8217;t allowed to gut it. </p>
<p>At any rate, it keeps me sane for now, but after this election, I really want to buy some land.  I think we should pull out of our 401ks and invest the money elsewhere while we can.  This area is just too expensive, and again, I’m not thrilled with my Catholic options so I&#8217;m seriously considering trying to talk my husband into investing in some in Alabama, near the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament.  EWTN is just south of there, outside of Birmingham and Mother Angelica&#8217;s sisters and priests are very devout.  The land is fertile, and the cost of living is relatively low.  Of course, there isn&#8217;t a large Catholic population in Alabama, but I grew up there and the Shrine is attracting people.  I have sisters in Birmingham and my parents and another sister just south of Huntsville.  I don&#8217;t know&#8230;but I&#8217;m feeling the pull.  I don&#8217;t know if it is just panic over the election and will subside, or if someone is trying to tell me something.  Anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>Just fyi if you are serious about moving.</p>
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		<title>By: javiermgfa</title>
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		<dc:creator>javiermgfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so tired of faux conservatives like McCain.  
Mitt Romney I like but he changes his colors like autumn leaves - ever adjusting to the politics of the season. Governors like Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin must take up the &quot;yoke&quot; of the party, take no prisoners and demand from our spineless GOP reps in Washington to fight back and fight hard. No compromise - ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so tired of faux conservatives like McCain.<br />
Mitt Romney I like but he changes his colors like autumn leaves &#8211; ever adjusting to the politics of the season. Governors like Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin must take up the &#8220;yoke&#8221; of the party, take no prisoners and demand from our spineless GOP reps in Washington to fight back and fight hard. No compromise &#8211; ever!</p>
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		<title>By: unclesmrgol</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Captain, we get it by having the better ideas &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; by acting exactly as the left did all those years.  Remember, Obama was one of those people constantly ankle-biting Bush.  Now, when he gets the reins of power and sees the intelligence flowing in, I personally will become a faux-leftist and hold his feet to his campaign promises.  And if he ignores the intelligence and disaster follows, he&#039;ll get his just desserts there too.

I think the guy is clueless and we are going to be gravely hurt while this two-year old (1/6th the political age of John Kennedy when he began his run for the Presidency) learns how global politics work.  We already are -- look at how the Iranians are publicly salivating at the concessions they know we are going to have to make at the table -- and we will make those concessions, because Obama has admitted he wants a face-to-face with a US adversary. 

Kennedy, with 12 years of national legislative politics under his belt, was sorely outclassed by Nikita Khrushchev early on, and we endured the Cuban Missle Crisis &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; the Berlin Wall as a result.

We can only hope that Powell gives Obama some aid, but even that may be too little -- given the statements Obama has already made, ostensibly with Powell&#039;s aid, to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Captain, we get it by having the better ideas <b>and</b> by acting exactly as the left did all those years.  Remember, Obama was one of those people constantly ankle-biting Bush.  Now, when he gets the reins of power and sees the intelligence flowing in, I personally will become a faux-leftist and hold his feet to his campaign promises.  And if he ignores the intelligence and disaster follows, he&#8217;ll get his just desserts there too.</p>
<p>I think the guy is clueless and we are going to be gravely hurt while this two-year old (1/6th the political age of John Kennedy when he began his run for the Presidency) learns how global politics work.  We already are &#8212; look at how the Iranians are publicly salivating at the concessions they know we are going to have to make at the table &#8212; and we will make those concessions, because Obama has admitted he wants a face-to-face with a US adversary. </p>
<p>Kennedy, with 12 years of national legislative politics under his belt, was sorely outclassed by Nikita Khrushchev early on, and we endured the Cuban Missle Crisis <b>and</b> the Berlin Wall as a result.</p>
<p>We can only hope that Powell gives Obama some aid, but even that may be too little &#8212; given the statements Obama has already made, ostensibly with Powell&#8217;s aid, to date.</p>
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		<title>By: The Day After : Pursuing Holiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Day After : Pursuing Holiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get.  There&#8217;s some Monday morning quarterbacking at PJM.  Ed Morrissey hopes Obama will be better than Jimmy Carter.  I hope that too, but I doubt it.  Gas lines, sweaters, and submitting to Iran - here we come! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get.  There&#8217;s some Monday morning quarterbacking at PJM.  Ed Morrissey hopes Obama will be better than Jimmy Carter.  I hope that too, but I doubt it.  Gas lines, sweaters, and submitting to Iran &#8211; here we come! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr_Magoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr_Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, I know it&#039;s early and we all have political hangovers - but can we start a list of conservatives we can start to look at for the future of the GOP? Other than the obvious, I for one would like to see a dirty dozen begin to form in our minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, I know it&#8217;s early and we all have political hangovers &#8211; but can we start a list of conservatives we can start to look at for the future of the GOP? Other than the obvious, I for one would like to see a dirty dozen begin to form in our minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr_Magoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr_Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is our duty as Americans to get this country back to her conservative roots. 

2010 is next.

Yitzchokm on November 5, 2008 at 12:05 PM
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57,000,000 people want no part of Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is our duty as Americans to get this country back to her conservative roots. </p>
<p>2010 is next.</p>
<p>Yitzchokm on November 5, 2008 at 12:05 PM
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<p>57,000,000 people want no part of Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: pukara61</title>
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		<dc:creator>pukara61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night America died and the People’s Republic of US was born. I went through socialism early in my life I saw first hand what this system will do to our great nation.
Moving to the US was the greatest blessing for me. Served 4 years in the US Army and 8 in the NJ National Guard, serving my adopted country has been my greatest honor. I work very hard for my education and every thing I have been able to accomplish so far in life. I never asked the government to do nothing for me; I believed in personal freedom and personal responsibility the core values of this great nation.  I fear demo-rats will work very hard at destroying the moral values that made this country the greatest Nation in the world. Many of these moron liberals tell me that this country will no be socialist we just want to take the money from the rich and redistribute to the poor. I guess so many of them don’t have the IQ to understand the basic concept of socialism. Them the majority of people in this country yesterday told our troops their scarified mean nothing to them. Many of our great men have died for nothing. Those republicans who supported Obama thinking by defeating McCain the party will come back in 2010. I got news for those morons; Democrats will make sure Republicans are in the minority for the next twenty to thirty years. We need to stop pointing fingers, the election was lost due to one person only Mc Cain. The born again Christians and evangelicals who had a problem with Mitt Rodney Religion are the ones who will kick themselves in the ass now. I say, in the next four years Obama will put most of them out of business. 

Today when I dropped my kids at school I saw the majority of them going to class with Obama’s buttons. I thought Catholics schools did not allow any display of politics in the class room. If want them to be indoctrinated I will send them to public school. Even one of the priests had one on him. To be fair I’m disgusting with my church too and I’m thinking to change my membership to a more conservative one. This is the second time the Catholic Church let me down. Any suggestion I’m open. Last night we decided with my wife to move out of the peoples Republic of NJ to a more conservative state. Here I’m surrounded by the most stupid people in the planet. Democrats have destroyed this great State and people here keep voting for them.    

Republicans need to come back to the Reagan conservative principles to win again. If they try to be more like dumb liberals they are doom. We need new effective leadership in the party, so for the next ten to twenty years we have to work hard to regain the trust of the American people to bring the country back to its greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night America died and the People’s Republic of US was born. I went through socialism early in my life I saw first hand what this system will do to our great nation.<br />
Moving to the US was the greatest blessing for me. Served 4 years in the US Army and 8 in the NJ National Guard, serving my adopted country has been my greatest honor. I work very hard for my education and every thing I have been able to accomplish so far in life. I never asked the government to do nothing for me; I believed in personal freedom and personal responsibility the core values of this great nation.  I fear demo-rats will work very hard at destroying the moral values that made this country the greatest Nation in the world. Many of these moron liberals tell me that this country will no be socialist we just want to take the money from the rich and redistribute to the poor. I guess so many of them don’t have the IQ to understand the basic concept of socialism. Them the majority of people in this country yesterday told our troops their scarified mean nothing to them. Many of our great men have died for nothing. Those republicans who supported Obama thinking by defeating McCain the party will come back in 2010. I got news for those morons; Democrats will make sure Republicans are in the minority for the next twenty to thirty years. We need to stop pointing fingers, the election was lost due to one person only Mc Cain. The born again Christians and evangelicals who had a problem with Mitt Rodney Religion are the ones who will kick themselves in the ass now. I say, in the next four years Obama will put most of them out of business. </p>
<p>Today when I dropped my kids at school I saw the majority of them going to class with Obama’s buttons. I thought Catholics schools did not allow any display of politics in the class room. If want them to be indoctrinated I will send them to public school. Even one of the priests had one on him. To be fair I’m disgusting with my church too and I’m thinking to change my membership to a more conservative one. This is the second time the Catholic Church let me down. Any suggestion I’m open. Last night we decided with my wife to move out of the peoples Republic of NJ to a more conservative state. Here I’m surrounded by the most stupid people in the planet. Democrats have destroyed this great State and people here keep voting for them.    </p>
<p>Republicans need to come back to the Reagan conservative principles to win again. If they try to be more like dumb liberals they are doom. We need new effective leadership in the party, so for the next ten to twenty years we have to work hard to regain the trust of the American people to bring the country back to its greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: Yitzchokm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. How did Obama just win the white house? 

The answer is George W. Bush. No, I am not going to tell you that Bush is a devil and deserves to be shot. On the contrary, I believe that the president is a great man. Still, however, Obama was elected to become president because of Bush. How you ask? Because for eight years……the MEDIA fed the American people Lies about this great man. Not that he has no faults. We all have faults. Even Ronald Reagan had faults (immigration for example). Our president was belittled, put down, disparaged, and demeaned by the Main Street Media (MSM) for over 7 ½ years. All because their pastor boy, Gore, lost the white house. 

I believe that in the MSM’s eyes, Obama can, and will, do no wrong.  It is up to us, as Conservatives (some will call us Republicans) to treat the next president as Bush was treated. 

For all of you, who think we need to take the high road on this one, remember: the good man ends last. 
It is our duty as Americans to get this country back to her conservative roots. 

2010 is next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. How did Obama just win the white house? </p>
<p>The answer is George W. Bush. No, I am not going to tell you that Bush is a devil and deserves to be shot. On the contrary, I believe that the president is a great man. Still, however, Obama was elected to become president because of Bush. How you ask? Because for eight years……the MEDIA fed the American people Lies about this great man. Not that he has no faults. We all have faults. Even Ronald Reagan had faults (immigration for example). Our president was belittled, put down, disparaged, and demeaned by the Main Street Media (MSM) for over 7 ½ years. All because their pastor boy, Gore, lost the white house. </p>
<p>I believe that in the MSM’s eyes, Obama can, and will, do no wrong.  It is up to us, as Conservatives (some will call us Republicans) to treat the next president as Bush was treated. </p>
<p>For all of you, who think we need to take the high road on this one, remember: the good man ends last.<br />
It is our duty as Americans to get this country back to her conservative roots. </p>
<p>2010 is next.</p>
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		<title>By: Lincoln</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BUCK OFAMA!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m making t-shirts by the way.  =D  Of course I have to make sure my profits only go up to $249,999.99 a year.  Bahahahahah!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BUCK OFAMA!!!!</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m making t-shirts by the way.  =D  Of course I have to make sure my profits only go up to $249,999.99 a year.  Bahahahahah!!!!!</p>
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