Mop-up thread
posted at 1:06 am on November 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
A few linky treats for our night owls and those too wired from having witnessed a bloodbath to wind down just yet. With 99 percent reporting, Obama’s clinging to leads of a few thousand votes in both Indiana and North Carolina. If he wins both, he’ll top out at 364 EVs (with the possibility for more depending upon what happens in Missouri and Montana). That would mean he’d have overperformed even the rosy projections at Five Thirty Eight. He already has 338 in the bank, which means your resident Eeyore actually wasn’t pessimistic enough. Good lord.
We’re headed for another wipeout in the House in the too, with Politico projecting a Dem pickup of at least 20 seats. You can follow the late returns at CNN’s master page. Murtha ended up destroying Russell in spite of everything, thereby depriving us of even a tiny consolation prize. For that, all hope now rests on Minnesota, where Norm Coleman’s clinging to a two-point lead over Stuart Smalley with 72 percent reporting.
Still too soon to tell which way Prop 8 is headed in California but with a quarter of the vote counted, it’s 53/47 in favor of reinstating the ban on gay marriage (i.e. a “yes” vote).
Here’s the video and transcript of The One’s speech. I mean, President The One.
Update: Wow — if, if the exit polls are right, Prop 8 is headed for a narrow defeat.
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Because we let the media define who we are. Why do we even care what the media thinks?
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
I wish I knew…honestly, I really do. I got stuck a couple of weeks ago having to watch morning “news” shows, and flipped back and forth between them all just in shock. I don’t watch TV, so I hadn’t really been immersed in the full treatment of Obama worship, but I can’t think of a better description of all of the shows. Chirpy, empty headed anchor people kissing Obama’s ass. For 2 hours, no matter which channel I selected. Not a single contrary word about Biden’s many f-ups. Not a single contrary word about The One.
I found it surreal and kinda amusing at the time. Not any more.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:47 AM
Unhinged…. get a grip!
lexhamfox on November 5, 2008 at 2:47 AM
Big deal. He never did it when he had a NATIONAL audiences.
He never did it when the people who really needed to hear it could hear it. He only did it when he was in front of his big fans.
From the very first he has done PRECISELY as I predicted he would do, with ONLY one exception: Choosing Sarah Palin.
And of course when he fails, for doing the things that I predicted he would do, you blame me for being right.
If the meteorologist tells you that a hard freeze is coming in a week, you would no doubt blame him when you loose your orange crop.
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By the way, don’t worry about your husband. Not only did I survive being in uniform (and a DoD ‘civilian’ contractor) while Carter was President, I actually had a pretty good time.
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 2:47 AM
It’s not “throwing the USA under the bus”. It’s a fear that the USA has just taken a very dangerous, and irreversible, step along a path to oblivion.
Normally, this would be a fringe idea, even with a Marxist getting the White House and lunatic liberals in charge of Congress, but after what we all just saw with the “credit crisis”, things can change radically and quickly. Liberal policies will certainly drive this country to economic/monetary catastrophe. From there …
progressoverpeace on November 5, 2008 at 2:47 AM
McCain kept thinking the voters wanted a Maverick when what they really wanted was a Messiah.
And dont underestimate the power of Obama’s constant message that electing Mac was tantamount to another 4 years of Bush. he appealed to a vast segment of America that was either totally fatigued with Bush or just hated the guy outright.
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:47 AM
How about one chump from Chicago and large Democrat majorities in Congress?
SAZMD on November 5, 2008 at 2:48 AM
NH went for Kerry in 2004. I don’t think we can blame NH for this loss. It was always a long shot. But a candidate does what he or she can, right?
Maybe it’s not so much that McCain lost as Obama won. There’s really not a single Republican I can think of who could have had a better shot, certainly not any that ran in the primary. The party’s been living off its past for awhile now. We need new blood, new faces, new ideas. And that has to start at the local level, in council and mayoral races, in state legislatures, etc. There’s just not enough in the pipeline right now. It’s a complete rebuilding process.
And I know this is probably a heresy but maybe we need new, or at least additional voices to the current opinion makers and shapers, the Rushes and the Lauras, the Sean Hannitys, etc. Maybe we’ve become too dependent on them to drive the party’s agenda.
Bennett on November 5, 2008 at 2:48 AM
Understatement of the decade.
I need sleep.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:48 AM
Yeah sure, 350 EVs for Obama is not a blowout, and we get to try it again for 2012? No thanks.
All the gains Palin made for McCain were offset from losses from independents. A Palin run in 2012 or 2016 will be another 350+ EV rout. She’s a 40% candidate.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:48 AM
Yeah we sure have. We’ve liberated two coutries and killed a whole lot of bad guys that would have done anything to attack us again. Plus we have not been attacked again in that time. Did anyone have any “hard” questions?
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:49 AM
Still not enough.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:50 AM
First, I would argue that our country wasn’t all that conservative when Bush came into office. So I don’t know how he could have realigned the country. Remember he lost the popular vote in 2000.
Plus, success isn’t only measured in holding political power. Ask our men and women in uniform if they’ve accomplished a lot the past seven years.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:45 AM
After 9/11 he had a huge opportunity to put us on war footing. Instead he gave us NCLB and the Medicare prescription drug program, and porkfest after porkfest passed by his GOP congress.
He could have used the bully pulpit to inform voters about the dangers of buying so much oil from nations that hate us…and not a peep.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:50 AM
We might as well have nominated Teh Fred! At least he would have had some funny quotes this season.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:51 AM
My kids are in grade school. I already have to make sure that they understand that their teachers aren’t right by virtue of simply being teachers.
Al parents are (should be) home schoolers. Even if you put them on the bus every day, you still have to put in the work after they get home.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 2:51 AM
It’s amazing how many of you aren’t seeing the big picture. There is no regaining power. There is no 2012. Am I bummed? No I’m excited for revolution!
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:52 AM
some of you Allah type lovers have a strange notion about politics principals and ideology. Because Obama won I now supposed to hop to it and not just concede but get on board with his policies? Are you freaking kidding me? There are elections every two years, and just as the Democrats won, we can come back like we did with Newt under Clinton’s presidency. But what am I thinking? I’m talking to the traditional defeatist, do nothing Republicans who love to shit on the pity pot for years and years bemoaning they still have their dignity. There’s no dignity in apathy. But no worries. There’s always a Reagan or Newt type to fire up the grassroots base and the do nothing Republicans get on board because they never like being left behind and love taking all the credit for doing nothing…
Well… Almost nothing. They never seem to miss a black cloud that they can point out. There’s nothing noteworthy about being the Paul Reverie of doom and gloom. There is in encourage others to pick themselves up by the bootstraps andctrudging one more step forward despite all the obstacles. It’s called perserverence. You should try it sometime.
Sultry Beauty on November 5, 2008 at 2:52 AM
Like the New Deal? I seem to recall we survived that just fine. For a conservative, you sure don’t have much faith in America and our democratic process.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:52 AM
God bless you and thank you for serving this great country.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:53 AM
Hell no! You give these people too much credit! This is the US of A, baby! Freest nation in the world, most prosperous, and the country I am and will always be damned proud to call home. That’s not bravado, that’s how I feel. Today we just demonstrated our ability to direct our future through our votes. There are a lot of countries out there who don’t have any choice in the matter.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:53 AM
Haner, its useless trying to get these people to break from their Palin crush. If she looked like Janet Reno, 3/4 of the people championing her for 2012 would be going for Jindal.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM
No, not like the New Deal. I’m talking about the monetary collapse of the world’s trade and reserve currency. Nothing like the “New Deal”.
progressoverpeace on November 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM
Hey, I wanna run for office. I have no political experience and I have no idea where to start, but I’m pissed.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM
Hmmm. How about all of that and the Supreme Court plus the federal judiciary? And no protection from voter fraud, union dominance (card check) and a few new federal entitlements?
SAZMD on November 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM
Hun, you really need a vacation from politics. Take a break and enjoy what a wonderful life you and I have as Americans.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:55 AM
No, we see the very big picture, much bigger picture than the dark, small-minded ‘Unabomber and the cabin in the woods’ portrait you have painted for yourself.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:55 AM
And God Bless the half of the country that supported us. Curse the half who cursed us and stood in our way.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:56 AM
All those other chumps (Dems in Congress) are already worrying about the next election. There is only so much that they can do, majority or no.
hillbillyjim on November 5, 2008 at 2:56 AM
So far it’s all fantasy unsupported by fact. Still not enough.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:56 AM
Then do it. Frank Zappa gave some of the best advice I ever heard on Crossfire years ago:
I’m going to. Not right away, because I want to learn first, but I’m going to shake things up right here in the progressive birthplace. Madison better be ready for the conservative underground to burst.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM
For me, it really has nothing to do with her looks. It’s her values. I want to elect people who share my values and are willing to roll up their sleeves and work for those values. It’s as simple as that.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM
I’ll tell you how you win.
First we have to stop being apologetic. We have to hit hard and hit often. Mitt shouldn’t have to be sorry for being successful. He should just say, yeah I’ve got 40 houses and I would like to enact policies that make it possible for you to do the same, if you have the gumption to do it.
We should never have taken Wright off limits. We should never let the press get away with their nonsense. We should begin each press conference and speech with an attack on the bias media and name names. Mathews, olberfart, couric. But do it in a mocking patronizing way.
And for the love of gunter…Can we please stop saying “what would Reagan do?”
Why in the jeepers creepers are we constantly saying “he’s not Reagan enough”.
FORGET THAT. Your hamstringing the candidates. I don’t want a Reagan. I don’t want a candidate from almost 30 years ago.
I want someone capable of fighting the 2008 and beyond political wars. I want a Sarah. I want a Jindal. I want a Romney.
I like McCain. He is a true hero. But we ended up with him because we couldn’t get our heads out of our whiny turd cutters. We wanted a perfect 10 candidate. the only problem is that we all had differing ideas of what that IS.
And by the time we figured it all out..it was too late.
McCain.
Hero….but 72
Hero….but lacking in charaaazzzma.
Hero….but not nimble enough OR eloquent enough.
Lets start our fight now. And lets take it to them..every day.
Handel on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM
Thanks for the curse!
mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM
Oh, and:
I actually respect the MAN in many ways, (although I was warned to “never trust that d@mned Admirals Son”, a LONG time ago).
It is the lousy politician that he has become over the last ten years ago that I despise.
It is amazing that the handful of us who recognized
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 2:58 AM
Amazing how many people that applies to on this site.
Backbone, people. Decide whether you’re an American or a Frenchman.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:58 AM
Stevens is winning in alaska with 66% of the vote already in.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 2:58 AM
Does anyone think we will ever see the birth certificate, for real?
Just wondering.
progressoverpeace on November 5, 2008 at 2:58 AM
That’s a silly response to an obviously speculative proposition.
SAZMD on November 5, 2008 at 2:59 AM
Dude. That’s just creepy. That’s way down on the un-Christian side of the see-saw.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:59 AM
Thanks for all your help, Allah. Though I could never really see a lot of positiveness emanate from you over the last several weeks here in HA. Not so much of the *rah* *rah* type. Not even during the primaries when you were seemingly dour on a lot of the candidates of choice. Which ones would you have preferred anyway? Certainly it wasn’t Fred Thompson.
HA, both good and bad and a lot of *gulping* along the way.
Thanks for your support. Maybe it’s time you get it on with that funky robot since you seemed to have been turned on by it?
Kokonut on November 5, 2008 at 2:59 AM
96% reporting, Franken up by 1065 votes. 2.3 million cast. Unreal. Runoff or what? No guesses here – someone send a link showing the rule please.
I’m actually dry heaving here……
JeffinOrlando on November 5, 2008 at 3:00 AM
And smith just took the lead in oregon but only 45% of thevote is inthere
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 3:00 AM
TB, I honestly see a more serious attack on our liberties than you envision. Tell me two things and then I’ll shut up and go to bed. 1. Why if we are so soundly defeated do they need the Fairness Doctrine? ( They were just saying this last summer Rush and Hannity were immaterial) 2. Why does Obama even talk about a Civilian Security Force, “As Strong As THe Military? (What is the purpose?) You have to wonder.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 3:00 AM
So only the crooked senators get to stay!
mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 3:00 AM
My 9 yr old son watched the election returns with me tonight, and after it was all over he asked “Dad, how do you start a campaign? I mean, how do you make it happen?”
Not sure if I’m terrified or excited.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 3:01 AM
If I could be honest: I don’t think with people age we would have been on war footing long anyway. I don’t my generation can stomach war, which scares truthfully. Fine, we can blame Bush for a whole lot of things but let’s admit it this is also largely a societal thing.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 3:01 AM
oh dude..I dont’ want to ‘curse’ them..Not at all.
I just want them to have a small itchy boil on their scrotums.
(yes sadly, when talkin about democrats..that also includes the women.>:)
Handel on November 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM
Congrats.
Jim Treacher on November 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM
Funny some of you pretending this country isn’t dead. Wake up!
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM
Which includes Obama. He’s got to worry about his second term. First terms are always limited by the need to stay viable for the second term.
Bennett on November 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM
I don’t think itwill goto a run off.Just who ever gets the most votes i guess.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 3:04 AM
He isn’t worried about his second term it’s the third that he is concerned with.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 3:04 AM
This election was lost because Republicans didnt turn out, period. All those close margins in red states. Why? They were unhappy with the bailout and were disgusted with Republican Party and punishing it. They were excited for Sarah Palin pick but were really pissed off by the Paulson’s plan.
Let’s not concede on the liberal memes. I really Paulson engineered the bailout in the worse way possible to hurt the Republican ticket. If anybody lost this election, its Hank Paulson.
promachus on November 5, 2008 at 3:05 AM
How could Franken possibly win? I mean…I just don’t get it.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 3:05 AM
No this country isn’t dead. We will be alright.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 3:05 AM
Campaign fraud needs to be addressed, but if that’s what the Republican party and conservatives are going to focus on, then the battle is already lost.
Half the country voted for an inexperienced liberal with a radical past. That’s not a failing of the American people or the Democrats, it’s a failing of the Republican party. In 2004, the Dems learned that you can’t win by running against the not-Bush. Unfortunately, McCain ran as the not-Obama, and predictably lost.
If the Republican party continues to be the party that represents itself as not-Democrats and little else, then they deserve to lose.
Hollowpoint on November 5, 2008 at 3:05 AM
What are you talking about. Creepy? I’m not allowed to dislike the half that said “Fuc* the Troops”.
I’m not talking like freaking incantations.
And Coward, you think it’s funny like it’s a big freaking joke like you’re admitting you cursed the troops.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 3:06 AM
Christ, Al Franken just pulled into the lead.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 3:06 AM
Sorry, got distracted and hit submit when I came back.
That is supposed to continue:
It is amazing that the handful of us who recognized exactly what McCain is like and warned you about it are in your opinion to blame when he meets OUR expectations and fails to achieve your misplaced beliefs.
But, I suppose you McCainiacs would have rather we few lied or shut up, so that this huge blowout would all have been a complete surprise to you. We wanted to prepare you for the inevitable. We did not CAUSE the inevitable.
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 3:06 AM
Obviously there is a new political reality in America. Conservatives will have to forge to alliances in order to make any kind of comeback against a very large tide.
I have seen this happen elsewhere and to a certain extent conservatives will need to pair down their core objectives. Do you care more about abortion than fiscal issues? Do you care about foreign policy and the role of the US in the world or are you after some sort of fundamental Christian society.
You can’t have it all now. I sincerely doubt that making Palin your leader will do anything but further marginalize the conservative brand. Decide on immigration. That is key and I suspect part of the reason why the election went as badly as it did.
Time to regroup.. rethink… and come up with new ideas. But the policies and politics that propelled Bush into power are fully repudiated here.
My hope is that responsible, competent, and fiscally sound government should be the core values of any viable future conservative movement. The reactionary phase is over. And good riddance.
lexhamfox on November 5, 2008 at 3:07 AM
I can agree with this, especially the creepy “what would Reagan do?” stuff. I loved the man, and loved what he did for our nation. But we need to look forward, not back.
And we need to actually support our nominee once we have one instead of thinking it’s some sign of purity to try to drag down our own man.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 3:07 AM
Keep in mind that most of the remarks that could have damaged Obama and Biden never made it to the mainstream media. They were either totally ignored or edited out to present a more flattering sound bite. Only the internet and YouTube captured those fatal remarks in context, and those that weren’t “scrubbed” by Obamabots circulated largely at conservative sites.
onlineanalyst on November 5, 2008 at 3:07 AM
Yeah like Jefferson in LA you indignant ass.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM
Guys cheer up. We will be alright. Let’s have some fun being the opposition party now. We will get our ideas out.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM
It’s called a Democratic landslide
(and fond memories of SNL)
mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 3:09 AM
Wishing your god to curse people just because they voted the other way is creepy. Very creepy.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:09 AM
And fraken just took the lead. Stunned! The final nail in the GOP coffin. We got took to the woodshed tonight.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 3:09 AM
We weren’t alright when we supposedly had all the power. What makes you think this time will be different. pfffft
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 3:10 AM
Like I said, first order of business is to impeach him for massive campaign contribution fraud.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 3:10 AM
Franken up by less than 1400 with 96% in, 2.3 mil cast.
There has to be a recount that close. You have GOT to be kidding me.
I can’t find jack on MN law!
JeffinOrlando on November 5, 2008 at 3:11 AM
The only Republican who got something good from this whole election season was Mike Huckabee. Now hes a TV star.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 3:11 AM
Smith is screwed in Oregon because Lane County has just started reporting. Another Senate seat for the Dems.
Hopefully Stevens and Coleman can pull it off.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 3:11 AM
I’m about to pass out; I can barely type anymore.
This too shall pass, folks. The US has survived two world wars, numerous smaller wars, the great depression, FDR, Carter, etc. We’ll get through this, and hopefully with greater resolve and direction.
God Bless America. Hollowpoint out.
Hollowpoint on November 5, 2008 at 3:11 AM
The Minnesota Senate race looks like one that will probably be recounted automatically. (Not sure about MN election laws.)
From the Sec. of State’s site with 95% of precincts reporting and 77% of counties complete:
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1137916 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1126145 41.73
hillbillyjim on November 5, 2008 at 3:11 AM
I don’t blame Bush really at all. I think of him as a man of great will and courage. I do think that he spent too much tho.
I place blame on repubs in congress tho for falling asleep at the wheel. I place alot of blame on the citizenship of this country.
I think we have been in a long steady drive to lower our standards. With this election being the pinnacle of it. All with the hopes that we’ll get that massive handout.
Let me look at three things and use that as an example of why that’s not smart.
Three things that democrats/leftists are and have been in charge of:
1) Public Education
2) The banking and credit fiasco.
3) The media and entertainment.
All pretty much have one thing in common. A lowering of STANDARDS.
And just looky at how well they’ve turned out.
(SIDENOTE: my ma-in-law is a former teacher, who flipped when i said this to her. She hasnt spoken to me in a week.
See? theres benifits to speakin truth to POWER!!! >:)
Handel on November 5, 2008 at 3:12 AM
I think you are pissing in the wind Hawkdriver. If it were close, you could claim fraud but this was as close to a landslide as you or I will see and to call it a fraud will alienate the legitimate vote.
lexhamfox on November 5, 2008 at 3:13 AM
I can’t believe people are wasting time arguing that Reverend Wright was not hit hard enough.
We just git hit by a tsunami and you are bitching that the napkin in your lap wasn’t big enough.
If we don’t figure out how to reach young voters and independents, we are not winning any more elections. These are people who are not attuned to the culture wars, don’t remember the 1960s, and hate negative ads and attack politics.
rockmom on November 5, 2008 at 3:13 AM
Al Franken! I can’t believe. Honestly guys how long do you think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid can stay in power with people like loudmouth Franken under them? Can you imagine how many stupid things Franken will do?
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 3:13 AM
No no no no! It’s because we’ve acquiesced to those who want to water down our values that we are in this situation. We must have core values that are non-negotiable, and teach them to our children. This is NOT an election cycle problem, it’s generational and we need to start fixing it now.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 3:14 AM
Where are you getting that info? I’m seeing more like an 11K lead. See hillbillyjim’s post above.
MN Sec State Election Results
(scroll down)
Missy on November 5, 2008 at 3:15 AM
We still haven’t gotten over the FDR hangover, but I agree with the rest.
Especially God Bless America.
hillbillyjim on November 5, 2008 at 3:15 AM
Actually, i think shes dead on right. it will be ok. Theres something to this really. WE cant be blamed for anything. If anything goes wrong on any front…ANY FRONT…ITs they’re fault.
In two years…we hit them in the elections.
But we need to start NOW. NOW NOW NOW.
Handel on November 5, 2008 at 3:16 AM
hawkdriver, they won’t get it. The majority of US voters just chose to throw the troops under the bus while they are taking hostile fire. The majority of US voters rejected a true military hero who could have lead our men and women to a resounding victory, and instead took the opportunity to hire Obama as your boss, and my husband’s boss. And part of why that happened is that GOP voters didn’t come out strong for our candidate.
They can only bash McCain, and be kinda happy he lost.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 3:16 AM
Meanwhile in California:
Ban on Gay Marriage
Yes: 53%
No: 47%
with 56% reporting
El_Terrible on November 5, 2008 at 3:16 AM
Obviously, we are going to have to get a whole new crop of people. That is what will make different.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 3:16 AM
Once again, please tell us where you’re seeing this. MN Sec State page says 11K lead for Coleman. Thanks.
Missy on November 5, 2008 at 3:17 AM
mad con you’ve been drinking happy juice. I don’t need to take a break from politics but you need to take a step back from the cliff. You’re sounding a little too much like I out to just relax and let the government do for me what they and you think I can’t do for myself. You sound like your ready to hop on board the Marxist/mSocialist A-Train. Sorry, I’ll sit out your little happy Obama’s President Fest.
BTW- I can’t go on vacation, I’m a single mother of two boys and owe high CA property taxes because my state government filled with democrat socialist like Obama keep bankrupting it and asking me for more money. Figure I should start saving too.
Sultry Beauty on November 5, 2008 at 3:17 AM
How in God’s Name is that Possible?
The few remaining Republicans in Congress are going to be to afraid to look crosseyed at the 0pp0sition, and the Democrats think that it was a wonderful plan.
We thought that the Clintons did their dirty tricks and even treason with impunity….
Well, NOW Corrupt Marxist election fraud is a MANDATE… So says 65% of the electorate and 80% of the Congress .
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 3:17 AM
That actually made me feel better.
Amadeus on November 5, 2008 at 3:17 AM
GOIN TO BED..gnite all.
Its going to be a-ok. As long as we dont get all sissified.
Get out there and poke a liberal in the butt.
(actually forget I said that..Prop 8 in calif may have gone down tonite too, so that might be taken as a marriage proposal)
>:)
Handel on November 5, 2008 at 3:18 AM
Hawk, the fairness doctrine is both a wacky idea of the left and a canard of the right used to instill fear. Right now the SCOTUS is hearing arguments about the ability of the government (FCC) to regulate speech on the airwaves. This has ties to the fairness doctrine, and how the Supremes rule could have big effects on any attempt to implement it. Pay attention to that outcome.
I wonder just what he means. I’ve read so many wild suppositions, from “its the New Obama Brownshirts, loyal only to him” to it’s how Chavez and Obama are coordinating a takeover of the country. On the other hand, it could be a new plan for compulsory national service, like the Swedes.
Now that he’s been duly elected, we’ll have to see what it means, and if he can actually implement it.
Whatever the truth, I do still have deep and abiding faith that this electorate, with the powerful help of the entrenched bureaucracy, will moderate any really wild notions he may have.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 3:18 AM
I’d rather lose three or four elections in a row while in the process of rebuilding conservatism than win the next one in a landslide by watering down our platform just so we could say that Republicans won.
That gains us nothing of substance.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM
Al Franken came to Kuwait and under the guise of doing comedy for troops, he spoke out publicly against the war in from of deployed troops and incited friction between National Guard troops and we Active Duty soldiers by insinuating we gave them inferior gear. I sat and watched his whole routine in Camp Udairi. He wore a trash can on his chest and said, “This is what the National Guard got.” He wasn’t happy to protest and suppress military morale from back in The States, he came into theater to do it. So now he’s a Senator. And it funny to you that we couldn’t even beat a clown like him. And I’ll give that to you coawardass. If having a man like him as a Senator after what he’s done there and said about us on Air America is okay with you, then my level of contempt for your half of the electorate is a great as his is for the military.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM
One reason liberals should think twice about more Hispanic immigration.
Mark1971 on November 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM
Oh my God, I can’t believe I am rooting for Stevens. I’m going to burn in hell with haner I’m afraid……
JeffinOrlando on November 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM
It’s from CNN
mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM
Take heart, funky one.
Obama will have to deal with realities when he takes office, and leave the platitudes at the door for a while.
hillbillyjim on November 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM
If only. Anything that goes wrong the next four years will be blamed on the lingering effects of Bush, and the MSM will let Obama get away with it. They enabled him this far, why would you think it would stop?
SAZMD on November 5, 2008 at 3:20 AM
Thanks. Wish I knew where they were getting their numbers.
Missy on November 5, 2008 at 3:20 AM
Crap. Franken is going to win.
Enoxo on November 5, 2008 at 3:20 AM
MichNews has a great shot of Governor Palin standing in front of the flag.
http://www.michnews.com/
Or here if the image moves.
Webler on November 5, 2008 at 3:22 AM
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