Mop-up thread
posted at 1:06 am on November 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
A few linky treats for our night owls and those too wired from having witnessed a bloodbath to wind down just yet. With 99 percent reporting, Obama’s clinging to leads of a few thousand votes in both Indiana and North Carolina. If he wins both, he’ll top out at 364 EVs (with the possibility for more depending upon what happens in Missouri and Montana). That would mean he’d have overperformed even the rosy projections at Five Thirty Eight. He already has 338 in the bank, which means your resident Eeyore actually wasn’t pessimistic enough. Good lord.
We’re headed for another wipeout in the House in the too, with Politico projecting a Dem pickup of at least 20 seats. You can follow the late returns at CNN’s master page. Murtha ended up destroying Russell in spite of everything, thereby depriving us of even a tiny consolation prize. For that, all hope now rests on Minnesota, where Norm Coleman’s clinging to a two-point lead over Stuart Smalley with 72 percent reporting.
Still too soon to tell which way Prop 8 is headed in California but with a quarter of the vote counted, it’s 53/47 in favor of reinstating the ban on gay marriage (i.e. a “yes” vote).
Here’s the video and transcript of The One’s speech. I mean, President The One.
Update: Wow — if, if the exit polls are right, Prop 8 is headed for a narrow defeat.
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And you need to brush up on your American history. The GOP is the party of Lincoln, remember? The man who saved the Union. But then perhaps you’re a Green party voter…uh…or something.
Bennett on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM
If you believe in democracy then if the majority of any state wants to pull out they should be allowed.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM
I still can’t believe Indiana and North Carolina with blue. Have the demographics changed in those states or what? Or is Bush and republicans that badly hated? Either way, The dems are completely in the drivers seat now. Thier actions will determine the republicans future.Good or bad. I can only hope for the best.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Hell of a night… I am new posting here but have been a lurker for a while and a proud Lizard for many years. Now to put things a bit in perspective. Yea, I am a disappointed in the results and like that would be news:-) There is one thing that is more important than any election or the results. The country tonight has decided that it would change it’s course in a not so mild manner. The democratic process has worked and guess what? There are no riots, there are no fires, there are no tanks in the streets. In many other countries that would not be the case and contrary to what many nut-roots would think, the Republicans and general conservatives take the process as what it is, pure AMERICAN. Our general philosophies have lost a election. I for one am not moving to France, I am still going to sleep tonight and go to work in the morning. What the nut-roots and congress needs to remember is 1991 and 1992. Jump hard to left and you jump out of your just elected position.
What John McCain did show us, was how to be a class act. Unlike the trash talk of the left and their candidates after the 2000 or 2004 elections. America again, has spoken and in a free election that the rest of world just dreams of being able to have, in a manner that significantly changes the course of is government. All of which brings me to the main point. The who and the philosophy is important but not close to the process, the freedom, the vote.
Everyone have a good evening and sleep well, I am.
Mark
P.S. For some reason the newline does not seem to working. I can’t seem to create a empty line for paragraph breaks! Oh well…..
mailmars on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot…
CONGRATULATIONS, ALLAH! ;-)
aero on November 5, 2008 at 2:11 AM
Which one? There will be many…
aero on November 5, 2008 at 2:11 AM
nope, he didn’t know it was coming.
again, Henry Paulson worked hard to deliver the WH to his fellow Chicago Democrat.
I can’t come up with an alternative explanation. Before the meltdown, McCain/Palin were winning and had all the momentum. McCain’s decision to suspend the campaing was terrible, in retrospect. If he’d picked Romney he could have sent Mitt to that table with Bush and Paulson and Paulson’s democrat co-conspirators.
but McCain didn’t know about it in advance, and he had to go back to DC to give the house dems a foot in the door.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:12 AM
It’s mind-boggling. Too much of Illinois bled over into Indiana.
pmanley on November 5, 2008 at 2:12 AM
I would be looking at emigration to a conservative nation hard, if one currently existed.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:12 AM
So, I’m still waiting for the resident Allah-haters to own up to the fact that he was right all along.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Yes we need leaders (not just the Presidential candidates) who can communicate with the American people directly. However, if I can be honest I think modern Americans put TOO much value on speaking and media skills in a leader. Yes, communication skills are good but they aren’t everything.
From what I’ve read Truman was a plain spoken and not particularly a great orator and many consider him a great president. On the other had, JFK was a great orator but the more I read up on him I’ve learned the man made a lot of mistakes during his time in the Oval office. My point is: Communications skills shouldn’t be everything. I think we are a media obsessed culture and we think what sounds good on television must be right.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM
Hi Crystald… Welcome to Hot Air. Sorry it is on such a depressing moment.
Yes, posting that link is fine, although I think most of us were already aware of it.
And as to “has it begun?” I don’t think the timing is mere coincidence. But if they planned it, they forgot that Bush is still President for two and a half months. It would be a miscalculation on their part to kick off Armageddon now. There is still someone who MIGHT be willing to do something about it.
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM
You do know that this country started by seceding from England? Imagine if we had lost that war and not gained our Independence.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:14 AM
Dear Mr. Lincoln might have vanquished the CSA but he never laid a glove on Thomas Paine.
Limerick on November 5, 2008 at 2:14 AM
sic semper tyrannis
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:15 AM
They’re not. The three college counties went blue (but voted Republican for governor!). Even the two Illinois edge counties that went Democrat for governor (DST backlash, I think) voted for McCain!
Alas, I think it’s time to leave this state…
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/NEWS0502/81103041
Skywise on November 5, 2008 at 2:15 AM
Madison – I was wrong. I thought McCain would win. Allahpundit was right. Good job, Allahpundit.
How about “Hot Air Times” a daily newspaper?
indythinker on November 5, 2008 at 2:15 AM
Stop it. Let us not get petty.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Get used to it! Not only is it heartfelt. But is is the exact same tactic used by liberals in 2000.
Obama’s presidency is illegitimate on 2 counts: ACORN and vote stealing in PA and WI. And Axelrod’s illegal campaign contribution machine.
America has elected a snake as president. And he is NOT my snake.
georgej on November 5, 2008 at 2:15 AM
Yeah, that would first require getting the majority and two, defending it by force.
You sound as pathetic as the moonbats who threaten to move to Canada.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:16 AM
I’m no more pathetic than George Washington or John Adams to name a couple. Stay in liberalland though buddy
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:16 AM
terryann
your last line said it all: we are a media obsessed culture.
part of the venomous hatred the left had toward GW Bush was that he SOUNDED like a moron, an inarticulate clod.
And much of the appeal of Obama is that he SOUNDS smooth, articulate, refined. Our media culture today mocks Sarah Palin for her accent and her way of speaking, and lauds Obama for his cadence and his inspirational tone.
It may not be just, but its the way things are. And to be honest, a large part of Reagan’s appeal was his mastery of communication and his ability to connect by the spoken word.
So yes, we need a Republican leader who can CONNECT. Unfortunately, when someone like Mitt appeared, he was derided as TOO SMOOTH… so how ya gonna win…
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:17 AM
BTW, I should point out that Acorn had registered 5% more voters than actual population in the city of Indianapolis alone.
Skywise on November 5, 2008 at 2:17 AM
Watching these morons crying like infants is revolting. You would think Obama was the first black guy ever elected to anything in this country.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM
What are the odds that Keith Olbermann ever refers to President Obama as MISTER Obama?
Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM
Then I despise you just as I despise them. Quit being a whiny sore loser and show some backbone.
We lost. Get used to it!
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM
Hmmm. A quote stated before killing a leader. That doesn’t belong here.
okonkolo on November 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM
And Americans chose to stick a knife in the back of our troops in harm’s way. I was delusional in my belief that the majority of US voters would refuse to reward the guy who said our people were air raiding innocent villages/civilians in Afghanistan with the job of Commander in Chief.
As a military spouse, I’m sickened.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:19 AM
Let me fix that for you:
The GOP
isWAS the party of Lincoln. The man who saved the Union.NOW it is the Party Of McCain who helped the Union to die because he was too much of a ‘reach across the aisle to my Senate Fraternity Brother’ sort of guy to fight hard enough to save it.
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 2:19 AM
McCains lead in Missouri is now 398 votes.
398.
Out of 2.4 million cast. Folks you cant make this stuff up.
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:20 AM
To lose would indicate a finality…
I’ve not yet begun to fight.
Skywise on November 5, 2008 at 2:20 AM
I second. Motion to carry?
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:20 AM
Take heart, funky. That makes TWO backbones in your family.
Limerick on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM
Proof again, and especially for the sore losers who will assert the fallacy that oppose this, that every vote, including yours, counts.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM
Don’t get sick now, because it will become fatal when you see what the Democrats do to the military.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM
First we start by questioning the legitimacy of the election…
Skywise on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM
And Huckabee was smooth and glib and the MSM was just setting him up because all his talk about being the Christian Candidate was going to be grist for the media mill if he had won….
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM
McCain would have been blown away were it not for Palin. His campaign had ZERO passion. He himself had no energy. The convention was all about Palin. I think that this is pretty obvious. She fired up the base and drove the turn-out in spite of the MSM’s web of projected defeat for McCain.
Geochelone on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM
Hollowpoint: Your point is well-taken. Unfortunately for conservatism and the Republican party, more Americans than not still get their news and their opinions from television. They listen to shallow on-air personalities spew sound-bite boilerplate of mostly leftist talking points or slants. It’s a sad situation when propaganda melds with infotainment.
onlineanalyst on November 5, 2008 at 2:23 AM
I know I’m gonna commit blasphemy on HotAir but oh well, it’s one of those nights. I think if Iraq and Afghanistan end up going successful: George W. Bush will considered a better President than Ronald Reagan in my eyes. I think he has had to face challenges that Reagan never had to deal with.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:23 AM
I wasn’t much for McCain, or his chances, but I didn’t think enough Americans hated Bush so much that they would endanger their country and let it slip in the crooked, incompetent hands of a Maoist slimebag like Obama.
Just to spite a well-meaning, if tongue-tied doofus of a Commander-In-Chief.
51% of those who vote are now certifiably delusional.
They look at an Empty Suit and see a Shining Knight.
While I see the most cunning swindler and liar in U.S. history.
profitsbeard on November 5, 2008 at 2:23 AM
sirmyth, you’re no George Washington or John Adams.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:24 AM
With the 1st pick in the 2009 USA Draft, President B. Hussein Obama selects…
pmanley on November 5, 2008 at 2:24 AM
LegendHasit, I went to McCain’s rally here in NV yesterday. He savaged many democrats by name, and waited while the crowd heartily booed. He said he had fought Harry Reid and would do so as president, and said Obama never had and never will.
He delivered the same speech he’s been giving for almost a month where he forcefully made the case for conservatism, in a much more convincing way than George W Bush ever has.
You people who hate the man are a big part of the reason his candidacy never took off.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:24 AM
By the by, Obama will not be the first black President. Now that he has won he will be rebuffed by the black community. His election would represent an end to discrimination and we can’t have that.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:24 AM
Let’s not have this Romney 2012 talk, please.
If you can’t beat McCain, you can’t beat Obama. Period.
I like Romney and think he’s great, but the guy just can get votes. I don’t want him and his wallet clogging up the primaries and allowing another McCain to come up the middle in the next election.
CanadianGuy on November 5, 2008 at 2:24 AM
This election was not about our fellow citizens in uniform, it was about George W. Bush and his failures, and about the Republican Party, and its multiplicity of failures. You and yours are and will be rightly honored.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:25 AM
Pugwriter, I didn’t fail my children. I stressed good grades, but also good values and American ideals. Don’t lay this at my feet. It is absolutely not my fault.
You may not know what it’s like to deal with the school system these days. When all they hear is how bad America is, and they compare their parents with all those “experts,” it’s really a losing battle.
Ayers et. al are making sure of that, even as we speak.
I was always totally against home schooling (and couldn’t afford private), but looking back, it would seem that is the only way to avoid America-hating indoctrination.
Doesn’t matter anyway, because home-schooling will soon be outlawed.
I’ve got kids in college now, and one of them is currently majoring in “history.” What am I supposed to do, keep them from going to college?
I’ve done my best.
Alana on November 5, 2008 at 2:25 AM
I think we are beyond questioning legitimacy.
Obama carried Florida, NC, Va, NM, Colorado, NV, Ohio, and even friggin Indiana. He has a 5.4 million vote lead inthe popular.
we are well beyond legitimacy right now. we are on to: WTF happened to the Republican base in 2004 Red States ???
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:25 AM
After several hours of agony, my wife pointed out to me that when I encounter one of those folk acting badly in a different culta than mine, I am now free to tell them I expect better of them: after all, look at who is president. Encourage them to lift their ambitions a little.
This idea has merit – the argument of many that we are keeping them down is now gone, gone, gone. There is now a role model available that is much more than a rap star or a questionable sports figure.
Don’t lose courage, don’t lose faith. This plowshare can be beat into a sword if we are clever. Think. Act. Don’t ever ever give up.
ElRonaldo on November 5, 2008 at 2:26 AM
Sounds good. Now prove it.
Pretty good speech. Let’s all hope that he can do more than give a good speech.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:26 AM
Obama won Indiana.
Indiana!
haikusrock on November 5, 2008 at 2:27 AM
nor do I claim to be however I do strive to be as great as they were. I’m committed to freedom and I do not see a way to reverse the trend away from it. I’m loyal to freedom not this country. You can stay here but there are many of us ready for a new start this time with a stronger constitution.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:27 AM
Limerick, I can only hope Obama offers early retirement like Clinton did. My husband and many others will jump to take it.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:28 AM
Goodbye Sarah, and thanks for all the moose!
PS until 2012!
LexisTexas2 on November 5, 2008 at 2:28 AM
I knew this election was over when I stopped seeing stories about McCain going to the Midwest Blue states and saw he was only going to Red states, with the exception of hopeless PA.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:28 AM
Why bother? Just as I predicted, McCain won’t challenge the results no matter how widespread and blatant the fraud is.
If he won’t do it, who will? Bush has already studiously ignored it, so no help on that front either.
Maybe a few Reps. running for congress will challenge their particular races, but nothing will come of that, because again Bush doesn’t care and we need the DOJ to at least cooperate, and after Jan 20 ALL the courts in the land will belong to 0bama, except for four guys on the USSC, for however long they can hang on.
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM
Through a fluke of the primary system, too many conservatives split the conservative vote, the conservative party nominated a non-conservative, and the conservative base acted accordingly. That’s a lot of repetition of the word “conservative” but I couldn’t think of any other way to say it.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM
Friend.
Oh…..and to Mr. FunkyChicken…..
FLY, Funky, FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goodnight, lady. Beer and sanctuary available on request.
Limerick on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM
Even Dole and Goldwater won Indiana. Geez
CanadianGuy on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM
Well, at least it’s a start, and a break with the past.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:30 AM
I like you Madison. You sound like a real conservative.
The emotional twats like sirmyth can go take a hike.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:30 AM
Then I despise you just as I despise them. Quit being a whiny sore loser and show some backbone.
We lost. Get used to it!
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM
When you are on your knees, wondering at how may freedoms you have lost (start with free speech under the “fairness doctrine”), when you wonder why your 401k was nationalized, when you wonder why you never have enough money after taxes, remember that the end of our Republic began on this day.
You can despise me all you like. I don’t give a snot.
The future election plan of Moveon.org, Soros, and Nancy Pelosi: One man. One vote. Once (and that day was yesterday).
Tyrants like Hitler got elected by popular vote. And once in, they never tolerated dissent again.
Look up what happened to WGN-720AM. Look up what happened when a 527 was threatened with prosecution demanded by Obama’s chief counsel. Look what happened to stations that ran the NRA’s ad.
Do you honestly believe that this blog will exist 2 years from now? Do you honestly believe that YOU will be able to listen to Rush Limbaugh or any other conservative on the radio in 1 year? Do you honestly believe that non-Obama approved speech will be allowed in 2012?
Because if you do, then I despise YOU.
georgej on November 5, 2008 at 2:30 AM
They voted for McCain/Palin, just like they voted for Bush/Cheney.
Mark1971 on November 5, 2008 at 2:30 AM
And McCain was decidedly NOT my guy in the primaries. I love Rudy, and wanted him to be the nominee. I gave up once it was apparent that his pro-choice stance made it impossible to win the GOP nomination.
Then I enthusiastically supported Fred, with donations and time.
Then I got on the McCain bandwagon after he won the nomination. He was our GOP nominee, and needed the GOP’s wholehearted support.
To the GOP’s shame, he never got it.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:32 AM
FIFY.
profitsbeard on November 5, 2008 at 2:32 AM
I have faith in America, and in its people. I don’t believe that one chump from Chicago can bring down the greatest nation in the world. Despise me all you want, you anti-American doomsayer.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:32 AM
Really? You got a chance to NOT vote for Bush today? What ballot did you use?
No, it was NOT about Bush’ failures. (fact, there aren’t any) If it had been, then McCain wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near the 48% vote he’s going to get.
Skywise on November 5, 2008 at 2:32 AM
Then I despise you just as I despise them. Quit being a whiny sore loser and show some backbone.
We lost. Get used to it!
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM
When you are on your knees, wondering at how may freedoms you have lost (start with free speech under the “fairness doctrine”), when you wonder why your 401k was nationalized, when you wonder why you never have enough money after taxes, remember that the end of our Republic began on this day.
You can despise me all you like. I don’t give a snot.
The future election plan of Moveon.org, Soros, and Nancy Pelosi: One man. One vote. Once (and that day was yesterday).
Tyrants like Hitler got elected by popular vote. And once in, they never tolerated dissent again.
Look up what happened to WGN-720AM. Look up what happened when a 527 was threatened with prosecution demanded by Obama’s chief counsel. Look what happened to stations that ran the NRA’s ad.
Do you honestly believe that this blog will exist 2 years from now? Do you honestly believe that YOU will be able to listen to Rush Limbaugh or any other conservative on the radio in 1 year? Do you honestly believe that non-Obama approved speech will be allowed in 2012?
Because if you do, then I despise YOU.
georgej on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM
Assuming that is really true, then the Independents/Undecideds broke for Obama (or didn’t vote). I wonder how much wobbly voters were swayed by the polls saying it was all over? I wonder how much herd mentality there was? We’ll never really know, I guess.
One thing is for sure. Bill Ayers is laughing his *ss off right now.
SAZMD on November 5, 2008 at 2:34 AM
Totally agree Gov. Palin energized the conservative base and kept this race from being a total blow out. She will be in the hunt for ’12…deservedly.
Buckeye Babe on November 5, 2008 at 2:34 AM
Yes, I do. In spades. Despise all you want. Your ‘armageddon’ wishes are hopelessness itself and bordering, if not wandering into, delusional.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:35 AM
The real fluke in the primary system is that a dopey caucus system exists in Iowa allowing the Huckster and Obama to win thru, and then the first GOP primary is open to democrats and indies in a state like NH… that is where Mac revived his campaign and where the true conservatives, such as they were, began to lose their grip on the nomination.
Its a cockamamie system that lets a few outlier states and some idiotic rules basically determine the nomination before most people have had a chance to vote.
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:35 AM
It was about enthusiasm, and McCain didn’t create any. No enthusiasm = no money, no volunteering. He got the conservative vote, grudgingly, and that explains this election.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:36 AM
Limerick–thanks.
Again, the Palin pick was McCain’s gamble to appeal to Reagan Democrats, who should have loved her biography and family and their values. Palin should have appealed to lots of those moderate/conservative dem women.
inexplicable that those people apparently rejected her and a war hero in favor of, at best, an empty suit.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:36 AM
Two things, actually. The former victims notice.
Welcome to the other foot, Mr Ayers.
Limerick on November 5, 2008 at 2:36 AM
First Marxist.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:36 AM
All of McCain’s endless New Hampshire pandering for 8 years was less than worthless.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:36 AM
And I’m not crying, I’m proclaiming my Official Disloyal Opposition status.
Starts in oh, six hours or so.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:37 AM
Iraq and Aghanistan are important, and losing them would have been devastating to national morale and potentially to our interests, but were you even alive when Reagan took office? You should read up a little more on what Ronald Reagan had to deal with – what state the country was in, and not just economically.
Bush sacrificed almost everything to run the war his way, and his way turned out be a lot less than perfect. He had a lot of help throwing away what may been the last best historical opportunity to realign national politics on conservative Republican terms for a generation. Reagan handed conservatives a chance to re-make the nation. Life and history are too complex to hold any one man or even the entire Republican national leadership responsible, but they played a major role in handing the country back to the left.
CK MacLeod on November 5, 2008 at 2:37 AM
Well I think its safe to say that Michelle Obama is finally proud of her country. I mean, why do people not care about this stuff? I just don’t get it.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 2:38 AM
Because we let the media define who we are. Why do we even care what the media thinks?
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
Damned straight. I’m not ashamed of my country, but I sure as hell am ashamed of some of the commenters here who’d throw the the USA under the bus based on one freakin election.
Hollowpoint on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
She’s only proud of half of it.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
Bush had no failures? Where have you been the last 8 years? McCain only got to 48% because he is not closely identified with Bush (regardless of what Obama tried to nail him with), but rather is perceived widely as somewhat of an outcast of the GOP.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
This was going to happen for demographic reasons in 2012 or 2016 or 2020. Unfortunately, it has happened in 2008. It just hastens the end of our country.
Taxes are going way up. People of color want handouts and they will get them. Affirmative action will now be permanent. Violent crime will get steadily worse.
I believe that perhaps one billion people worldwide may die of various causes in the years to come, mostly wars and hunger, largely due to McCain not getting a few more percentage points.
It may be worse, however.
indythinker on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
Couldn’t watch much last night, too depressing. My only consolation is Lynn Jenkins took Nancy Boyda’s (d) house seat out here in Kansas. I am happy about that!
bopbottle on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
The Republicans allowed the financial meltdown to be blamed on them by the real perpetrators, the Dems, and their media PR assistants who created and repeated the charges. Had the Republicans en masse and John McCain in particular named names and identified the source of the misery early and often, they would have had those juicy soundbites that the media could not ignore.
McCain allowed the party to be blamed for the economic meltdown and failed to forcefully offer solutions and options for recovery. He played right into the template that Republicans do not care for the average wage earner and know little about economics.
onlineanalyst on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 AM
I have one rant, and it is for the man whom I voted for.
Go home now, and stay out of the presidential scene from now on. You refused to fight, and for that, you lost us the race. We took a chance on your liberal taste of Republicanism, and it was a flop. Thank you for your service to the country, but you’ve squandered my support with a lackluster, weak campaign that refused to tell the truth about your opponent.
Get out of the way so conservatism can clean up your mess.
MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:40 AM
Hi guys,
I lost interest when Fred dropped out. Didn’t really see much difference between BO and JM to care much one way or the other.
This is the first day of one party rule in the USSR, the United States Socialist Republic.
They will use their position(s) to make sure a conservative is never elected to major office in this country again, or rarely.
I thought demographics would set us on this path starting in 2050, but here we are already.
I am now a member of the opposition in an effectively one party state. Violent Revolt or flee??
Not sure what this country offers to a middle aged pink person anymore. I am not a victim in any way, just wanted to be left alone by the Feds. not a protected class, and never looked for a hand out.
I salute those here that have served or are serving their country. I owe you everything.
Stand proud and true to your beliefs. They can’t take that away. Keep the powder dry. I have a feeling in 5 or six years, the world will all come knocking on your door to save their sorry asses.
AZCON on November 5, 2008 at 2:41 AM
Meanwhile, in Minny, Norm Coleman clings to a lead of just 1200 votes with 94% in.
I dont think I could deal with Obama AND Stewart Smalley both being victorious on the same night. you want to talk about the death of the republic, an Al Franken victory would be the true hallmark of the apocalypse…. and he is within 1200 friggin votes…..ooops, make that 1100 now…
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:42 AM
The demographics aren’t changing ever, and it will be worse.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:42 AM
Where have you been the last eight years?
Try reconciling to a party that was claiming you’re murdering civilians in cold blood while the enemy is shooting at you. These bastards get nothing from me.
The first thing we should go after is massive campaign finance fraud.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:43 AM
What’s another phrase for ‘damn straight?’ I’m liking this train of thought a lot better.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:43 AM
McCain blamed “Wall Street greed” when it was primarily rooted in the Dems well intentioned, but reckless social engineering policies and corruption at two quasi government agencies. McCain also didn’t realize that the general low information voter associates Republicans with Wall Street, not Democrats.
That’s just one of the dozens of things McCain royally fucked up. He has fulfilled his destiny to lose to the first black man to become president and deliver a poignant speech about losing. It is now time for him to go back to Arizona for good. No books. No TV. Just go.
CanadianGuy on November 5, 2008 at 2:44 AM
Don’t be such a drama queen. This is still America. We are all still Americans. If you plan on assassinating our President elect please give us your phone number and address. If you care about your ideas and have sane arguments there are always peaceful ways of communicating them. There are lots of things which are still legal. Some of them are even encouraged. Be a citizen… start small.. organize in your community. That’s what Obama did and he beat the Clinton and Bush electoral machines. There is hope for everyone in this result.
lexhamfox on November 5, 2008 at 2:45 AM
Hello everybody.
First time here..
First, please forgive my accent. I was born in Paris France. I live here since 16 years and I am an American, a proud American until today – but can’t get rid of that stupid accent…I wrote a post 10 minutes ago but don’t see it yet so I re-post. If it get posted twice please forgive me.
Now I come from Europe – socialism everywhere since…for ever, well anchored. Socialism spirit, does not matter any new president. That’s the people – that’s the spirit. When you are ready to give up freedom for security, you know it’s over.
I just read the posts on Michelle’s blog and admired the will to fight, against all odds. May be I have a bad and negative reaction to what happened tonight but here is my point: when a country become socialist – marxist, it’s for ever.
Why?
1) the schools: our children are endoctrinated from kindergarden all the way up and when they get to be 20 or 25, socialism is totally normal for them. They are brainwashed since birth.
2)If the parents, like all these people today, voted socialist, they will not help their children, plus now, they don’t take the time anymore anyway.
3) the press is in the tank – unfortunately we already have this one. It will get worse. Every opinion is filtered.
4) here we will also loose the court – all judges will be elected for life – socialists judges – no salvation here either.
The point I am trying to make is that even if you fight, and I am not saying we should not fight, your opinion will NOT be heard! Even if our republican senators and congressmen and women try to fight, they will NOT be heard by the people, because the people will not have a voice anymore. The internet may help but guess what: all the work you guys did againt Obama, who will NEVER be my president, unfortunately did not help. Why? Because the brainwashed did not see it anywhere where they look!!!
Look what they did to Sarah, and it worked.
So, in a socialist-marxist country, which we will have in January 2009, “the people” are happy – I mean overdosed happy, because they are brainwashed and will NOT see your fight therefore will not be able to react to it. That’s how it works in Europe and that’s why nothing ever change there, because of the people.
Today America died. “My” America. The America the world hate so much because they ENVY us so much. The American spirit is gone. And those, like me, who are so sad tonight, will be part of the “Soljenitsine” type of group. Well, where is the new “Land of the Brave” please??? Because this one is gone.
I am so so sad. I think I will put my flag down. I don’t want anyone to think that I am honoring the new president. He had his “American Dream” tonight and we lost ours.
I am so so so sad, indeed.
I am trying to find something fun to say but…just can’t laugh tonight. Sorry.
Prisca on November 5, 2008 at 2:45 AM
First, I would argue that our country wasn’t all that conservative when Bush came into office. So I don’t know how he could have realigned the country. Remember he lost the popular vote in 2000.
Plus, success isn’t only measured in holding political power. Ask our men and women in uniform if they’ve accomplished a lot the past seven years.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:45 AM
I’m watching this race as well.
mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 2:45 AM
Kudos to both of you for keeping sight of reason instead of letting emotion cloud your thoughts and poison your words. We are better than this. No one is seceding and yes, President-elect Obama is our future President for better or for worse. I hope God grants him the wisdom to lead with foresight and clear judgment, although I am not getting my hopes too high for that.
At least he’s not as willfully ignorant as Jimmy Carter, so there’s a little bit of room for hope that he will end up doing the right things out of self-interest, if nothing else.
God, this has been a LOOOOOOONG election.
hillbillyjim on November 5, 2008 at 2:46 AM
Relax, Alana. I was speaking of the country as a whole, not you in particular, whom I don’t even know.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 2:47 AM
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