Mop-up thread
posted at 1:06 am on November 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
A few linky treats for our night owls and those too wired from having witnessed a bloodbath to wind down just yet. With 99 percent reporting, Obama’s clinging to leads of a few thousand votes in both Indiana and North Carolina. If he wins both, he’ll top out at 364 EVs (with the possibility for more depending upon what happens in Missouri and Montana). That would mean he’d have overperformed even the rosy projections at Five Thirty Eight. He already has 338 in the bank, which means your resident Eeyore actually wasn’t pessimistic enough. Good lord.
We’re headed for another wipeout in the House in the too, with Politico projecting a Dem pickup of at least 20 seats. You can follow the late returns at CNN’s master page. Murtha ended up destroying Russell in spite of everything, thereby depriving us of even a tiny consolation prize. For that, all hope now rests on Minnesota, where Norm Coleman’s clinging to a two-point lead over Stuart Smalley with 72 percent reporting.
Still too soon to tell which way Prop 8 is headed in California but with a quarter of the vote counted, it’s 53/47 in favor of reinstating the ban on gay marriage (i.e. a “yes” vote).
Here’s the video and transcript of The One’s speech. I mean, President The One.
Update: Wow — if, if the exit polls are right, Prop 8 is headed for a narrow defeat.
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And if they waste their power chasing after us they’ll lose the electorate. Guar-an-teed.
Guys, seriously, I’m not concerned about getting stamped out because we’re not (take a look at the ballot initiatives conservative issues are still running the day) I’m really concerned about the message and the mechanism to get it out. We’ve gotten stomped on the internet (see Digg, see Kos) and talk radio is getting minimized. Fox has all but gone liberal and every other news source is a mouthpiece for the DNC.
The message and the goals (what the message says) are the key. And the RNC has NEITHER.
Skywise on November 5, 2008 at 1:39 AM
thank you lord!! Michelle Bachman has hung on to win in Minnesota
ousoonerfan15 on November 5, 2008 at 1:39 AM
I, for one, welcome our new Democratic overlords. That utopia should be gettin’ here any day now. Yep, aaaaanyy day now.
token on November 5, 2008 at 1:39 AM
You were very clairvoyant. I cheered Palin through the convention and even after the Gibson interview. But the Couric interviews were just awful. At that point, I couldn’t defend her anymore without sounding like a hack. She should have done better for that interview and the McCain campaign were idiots giving Couric the interview when she clearly was not prepared.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Here’s a cheerful article: THE NEXT CIVIL WAR FOR HISTORIC AMERICA: ARE YOU MY ENEMY?
flyfisher on November 5, 2008 at 1:40 AM
I have to admit. If it weren’t for Sarah Palin I wouldn’t have even paid attention to this race. If not for her on the ticket, I would have lost interest a long time ago.
ShenronEX on November 5, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Millions of Americans were enamored by Obama, not socialism. The fact that “joe the plumber” and some hack youtube users that “found” audio clips that the RNC should have been looking for months ago speaks volums about how poorly this campaign was run.
The socialism argument would have worked if the argument was started months ago…
joest73 on November 5, 2008 at 1:42 AM
Sarah Palin is a class act through and through, a good and decent human being, and I think America is infinitely worse off for not having her as Veep elect.
haikusrock on November 5, 2008 at 1:42 AM
If Palin is going to be a “star” of the conservative movement, can she stop saying stupid things like “the VP runs the Senate and can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes”? Is this really too much to ask? If Ronald Reagan had run for VP, he would not have said this.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 1:42 AM
Dude micromanaged Gustav if that’s what you mean by “handling” it well. If something bad had happened while he was advising people on the best tape for their windows and helping to stack canned goods (i.e. the New Orleans levies broke), then it would be a completely different verdict.
He has even less governing experience than Palin and doesn’t seem to have her political skillz.
Illinidiva on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Great, not three hours into our defeat and the Polish firing squad’s already out to stab each other in the hamstrings.
*sighs*
I do not congratulate President-Elect Obama on his victory, because he did not win it remotely fairly. I will however respect the office of POTUS enough to address its next occupant by his title. I pray he displays more wisdom and restraint in the White House than he has ever showed us to date in life.
And seriously, lay the hell off of Governor Palin. She did everything the ticket asked her to do, and did it amazingly well. She was drawing larger crowds than McCain was. However we got beat, its not because she killed us.
And she is one of the party’s best hopes for the future, so, let’s not go tearing her down now for a short-term and useless party infighting advantage. Remember Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment, and let’s save everything we can and hold until relieved. That’s all we’ve got left until the next time.
Chuckg on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
I was disappointed that Sarah didn’t get to speak when Mccain conceded. John Edwards spoke when Kerry lost. That was a bit ungentlemanly of John Mccain.
promachus on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Next time, let’s ignore the Press and nominate a hard core right winger.
Tony737 on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Unfortunately, you won’t be able to afford the electricity to run it.
Unless you buy a wind generator, solar panels and LOTS of batteries right now.
Which gives me a good idea. I was trying to figure out what to do with the money in the money market that I planned on drawing out to keep it safe. Solar panels and wind generators will soon be worth their weight in gold.
LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
At least Michele Bachmann won in Minnesota and we won’t have to listen to that AHole dillweed Matthews brag about a new scalp on his belt.
I’ve had so little to cheer about-my candidates lost on the federal, state, and local level.
Goodale on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Hey, look at the bright side:
1.) It’s cool to be the opposition party. Nobody expects you to accomplish anything while you get to f*ck up the other sides attempts to do things.
2.) Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, and Tina Fey are all out of a job.
Dagnar on November 5, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Ditto. And thanks also to Michelle Malkin for making it all happen.
We lost… but not for lack of effort from Allah, Ed, and Michelle. Like many, I’ve learned more here than I could have done in any given week of watching the news or reading the newspaper. I for one will still be around, and look forward to what is to come- even if I don’t look forward to the direction the government might take in the next 4 years.
The US is not facing ruin based on this election. We’re too strong for that. Our fortunes are not tied to the whims of an emperor or king. Ultimately, it is the people of our country- not it’s government- who defines us.
Thanks again to the hotair.com crew, and congratulations to President-elect Obama, and the MSM who made his victory possible. For the good of us all, I hope we misjudged you, Senator Obama.
Hollowpoint on November 5, 2008 at 1:45 AM
I respectfully disagree here. The vast majority of us, IMHO, would have held our nose and voted McCain anyway, save a Lieberman pick. McCain blew this election in so many ways, it’s not even funny.
hot-heir on November 5, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Face it, the socialism argument was weak sauce after the Bush bailout and the McCain mortgage deal.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Awesome. I sent a couple of my $ her way and hoped and prayed she’d stay on. Glad to see Mahoney lost in FL, bummed about Russell and Feeney. Any word on Stuart Smalley?
Fallen Sparrow on November 5, 2008 at 1:46 AM
So, will General Motors go out of business before Obama takes office or after? Hopefully the Bush people have enough sense to keep it on life support until January.
rockmom on November 5, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Well that messiah that you are talking about just won big time. Don’t shut jindal out just yet. He has already cut 6 taxes and took the state from being the most to corupt to the best in ethics laws in the nation. And he has only been in office for 8 months. So stop bashing him. At this point we need all the prospects we can get.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 1:47 AM
The republicans should study and steal all these brand new campaigning techniques from the Obama and explore new ways themselves to campaign to move them out of the 1980′s way of doing things and into the 20th century. They stole from Bush’s techniques …we need to do the same. 2012! Here we come.
silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 1:47 AM
All things considered, this wasn’t the blowout the Kosby Kids were predicting. Yeah for Obama it was, but they weren’t able to get rid of Bachman, McConnell etc.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 1:47 AM
I don’t think the bailout was socialism as much as it was international relations.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 1:48 AM
GOP wrote her off even with funds. Great news!
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 1:48 AM
No! 2010 here we come.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 1:48 AM
I just read on another site that a large crowd is setting fires in Pittsburg.
flyfisher on November 5, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Eeyore.
Many of you predicted McCain would pull off the upset, now you’re predicting the USA’s demise. You were wrong on the first and you will be proven wrong on the second.
Pull yer collective heads out of the pity-pot and look forward to a renewal of both the conservative movement and the country. It will happen with Prez. Obama (who may very well do some good things) and whoever the next POTUS is, because excellent ideals and excellent ideas never die, unless we let them. The current GOP let conservative ideals die in pursuit of power for the sake of power; by greed and by graft; by losing sight of why this center-right nation kept them in power for so long. Time in the wilderness is the only cure for that kind of corruption.
For the time being conservatives must be the ‘loyal opposition.’ Loyal to country and to fellow citizen, loyal to the commitment to keep this country together and not divided. I have no idea how long this must be, but it will not be forever.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Oh the McCain mortgage deal from the last debate. I remember instantly thinking why not just elect a democrat with a pandering idea like that mortgage plan.
joest73 on November 5, 2008 at 1:49 AM
It cant be….
Franken has caught up to Coleman. Its dead even.
WTF…..
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Most of the European countries, especially France, are elated Obama was elected because they believe it will create a “less arrogant America” and swing this country more towards their way of “thinking and living”.
I wonder… when was the last time France ever elected a black president, or elected a black anything. The same goes for all the rest of them. Each and every European country.
Oh, that’s right, they NEVER have. Ever.
The truly arrogant assholes, are they, and they got what they wished for.
That irks me more than Obama pulling the wool over the eyes of the majority of this brainless weak kneed bleeding heart country.
FlatFoot on November 5, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Well, we know how to get a ton of money to them now. Unless Dear Leader outlaws his own contribution practices.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Not to mention the late-night comedians. It’s extremely difficult to make fun of Obama. Their koolaid-drinking audiences just can’t bring themselves to laugh at the Savior of the World.
aero on November 5, 2008 at 1:50 AM
One thing to remember about Palin.. When McCain picked her, his numbers took a steep climb.
The thing that reversed it was the financial crisis. Has anyone read Tom Clancy’s Debt of Honor.. That is where someone purchases a large brokerage house with the intent of screwing the US financial system.
McCain had the entire media against him including half of fox. Bend over america… here it comes…
bullseye on November 5, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Ron Paul cost McCain the state of Montana. Learn your lesson, GOP.
A party that embraces Lieberman because he’s pro-war but shuns Ron Paul is not a conservative party.
MedSchoolCatholic on November 5, 2008 at 1:50 AM
By all means, let’s blame Sarah Palin. Not McCain’s muddled message. Not his inability to talk about the economy. Not his unwillingness to really attack Barack Obama. Not his ridiculous move to suspend his campaign and then fail to deliver the House Republicans. Not his inability to hang the Fannie/Freddie crisis around the necks of Obama and the Democrat Congress. It was all Sarah Palin and the Couric interview. Right. Got it.
SAZMD on November 5, 2008 at 1:50 AM
There are very few Senate bright spots for 2010. Whichever dope is appointed to Obama’s seat in Illinois will be there for life.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 1:50 AM
What I don’t understand about people piling on Palin is, Joe Biden made innumerable gaffes, heck, Obama made innumerable gaffes and if you are disenchanted conservatives who are trashing Palin to save boost your own candidate, your candidates too, Romney, Huckabee all of them made those gaffes. Why are you impaling Sarah and leave others?
What you guys need to understand is from here on, any candidate with even remotely conservative appeal will be vilified exactly like this. Like Bush and Sarah and the future Repub candidates have to develop media strategies to counter that.
Sarah has had trail by fire. My personal opinion is that she will weather the storm much better unlike others who will simply be swallowed up.
promachus on November 5, 2008 at 1:50 AM
It didn’t work because this wasn’t going to be an election driven by ideologies. And because most people don’t even know what socialism means. They just know that it’s a scare word and I think people who were inclined towards Obama were not going to tune into anything that sounded like it was meant to scare. He was very successful with that from the beginning, warning about how the opposition would try to make them afraid, etc. So when the buzz words came, Obama supporters were prepared to tune them out.
Even I tuned it out after awhile, Ayers and Rev. Wright and Marxism, etc., none of that had anything to do with my opposition to Obama. I voted for McCain because I admire him and think he would be strong on defense. But I think I am one of the few who was actually FOR McCain and not just against Obama.
Bennett on November 5, 2008 at 1:51 AM
When Ted Stevens wins and then is forced to resign, should Palin become Senator?
Maybe Mrs. Palin Goes to Washington after all.
Terrie on November 5, 2008 at 1:52 AM
Here’s the link, showing Ron Paul w/ 2% of the vote, effectively giving the state to Obama:
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/?category=Montana
MedSchoolCatholic on November 5, 2008 at 1:52 AM
foolish to think this country can be turned around.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 1:52 AM
I think the last few weeks would have been quite different if McCain had opposed the bailout. While accusing Obama of being a socialist is completely correct, it’s also accurate to say McCain is a socialist, only to a lesser degree than Obama. I respect McCain, but his “moderate” views and tone killed us.
flyfisher on November 5, 2008 at 1:53 AM
Gee!! So he cut the car registration fee and enacted a ethics law… Sounds like pretty small potatoes, kind of like the Messiah’s accomplishments?? If Jindal’s name was Bobby Smith, we wouldn’t even be talking about a person who has been governor for six months.
As for that Messiah, the “white guilt” associated with electing a non-white man is now gone. Jindal will not get all the votes that Obama got in places like Evanston, just for being white. And unfortunately, I don’t think that someone with a masters from Oxford is going to relate very well to the “Joe the Plumber” types in Ohio.
Illinidiva on November 5, 2008 at 1:53 AM
Where’s my check, asswipe?
Metro on November 5, 2008 at 1:14 AM
HAHA! I’ll be looking in my mailbox everyday and I hope the money I get comes from Oprah’s bank account!
Tony737 on November 5, 2008 at 1:53 AM
Has it begun? New poster here hope I am not violating anything by posting the news link.
Crystald on November 5, 2008 at 1:54 AM
The GOP needs to change a few things, and I think the first should be the primary system. The system needs to be changed so that conservative candidates aren’t damaged because too many conservatives split the conservative vote allowing a moderate who didn’t excite the base to win.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 1:54 AM
People were confused. Some thought that a ‘yes’ vote meant ‘yes’ for same-sex marriage.
baldilocks on November 5, 2008 at 1:54 AM
That’s what I don’t understand. Why do we have to acquiesce to the media? Especially the mainstream media. They are never going to like us anyway. I think we need to find other communication outlets. Because let’s face it the NY Times, NBC’s of media are NEVER going to like conservatives.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 1:54 AM
Choosing Palin was a gamble aimed primarily at winning the bitter, clinging union members in PA and OH. It appears that those people instead chose to vote for Biden and Obama instead of a war hero and strong woman from humble origins with a union member husband.
Inexplicable.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 1:54 AM
McCain made gaffes too. “I don’t understand the economy as well as I should” for starters. Imagine if George Bush said something that dumb.
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 1:55 AM
I was just thinking about that myself. Is she allowed to appoint herself as Senator? If she really wants any shot at the nomination in 2012, she can’t be isolated up in Alaska. And what better way to launch a Presidential bid than as one of the leaders of the GOP opposition in the Senate?
Doughboy on November 5, 2008 at 1:55 AM
TB, I would be in for that if I didn’t just know that they could use even that against us.
“After 4 years of unopposed accomplishments by (spit) this newman wonders why the electorate would ever consider electing another Conservative.”
Sorry, count me out. They had eight years during time of war to show some of that stuff and put the country first.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 1:55 AM
It will last for no more than 8 years… and hopefully a helluva lot less.
Unless, of course, the Obamassiah and our Liberal dominated filibuster-proof House pull off a re-write and make the Obamassiah POTUS for life… or for more than two terms.
FlatFoot on November 5, 2008 at 1:55 AM
The media would have a field day. But my new answer is “So what!” We do what we can get away with too.
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM
I personally view being able to understand the ballot as the IQ test for voting. I don’t have any sympathy.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM
Republican Party needs to be more substantial in the future (yes, I know, Obama is not Mr. Substance either, but conservatives are wired differently). None of this Joe the Plumber gimmicks.
We should be the party of competence and hard work. We should not be the party of instant fame and reward, and that’s what bothers me about Joe the Plumber and to a smaller extent, Sarah Palin. Joe the Plumber strikes me as a publicity seeking opportunist rather than a real self-made role model, and a lot of hardworking Americans see that too.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM
I hear Jessie Jackson Jr will be taking Barracks Place in the senate
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM
Exactly. That’s where picking Romney would have helped. People do not trust Sarah Palin to handle the financial crisis. They would have trusted McCain/Romney.
Conservativism will only survive by returning to its roots. That means shedding the libertarian economics. Fail to do that and conservatism will soon be history.
indythinker on November 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM
White Guilt 08′
romanianhacker on November 5, 2008 at 1:57 AM
im more interested in pulling Texas or Alaska from the union than wasting time on the republican party again
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 1:57 AM
Or if either had said something about visiting 57 states, or if McCain had launched his political career in the home of David Duke or a Eric Robert Rudolph type fellow.
With those types of gaffes McCain could have had a real shot at the presidency.
haikusrock on November 5, 2008 at 1:57 AM
Congratulations senator. You are now forever enshrined in SNL reruns as having made fun of your running mate (after they joked about her husband having incestual sex with his daughters) and making an utter jackass of yourself 3 days before the election.
They weren’t laughing with you senator. They were laughing at you.
You are like the kid who thinks everyone is his friend because he shares his lunch with them and makes them laugh. Repeat after me… Liberals are not my friends. You have done a grave disservice to the conservative cause by not clearly defining our message. It took a common citizen to define our message. And by then it was too little and too late.
The republican party needs a thorough cleaning of scourge of moderates. And I am starting with you. Retire now senator. I do not want you extending the hand of unity to liberals anymore.
I’m mad and I want revenge. The kind of revenge that lights a fire under conservatives and causes them to treat liberalism like the plague it is. Not try to befriend it.
People will vote for conservative values– IF they know what the hell they are.
Bob Feeblethorp on November 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM
G’nite all…. {hic}
Immm, changing duh channel on dis shue.
You all stay staright… {hic} , you know, I love you man… {burp}
Kini on November 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM
They voted for Obama, who clearly disdains them. Women overwhelmingly voted for a guy who pays his female staffers less than eighty cents on the dollar instead of for a guy who chose a strong woman for VP.
Inexplicable…except that I think Henry Paulson handed the WH to his fellow Chicago Democrat.
If McCain and Palin had opposed the bailout? Against the Bush Administration while the Sec Treas is out there screaming “New Great Depression?”
I dunno
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM
600,000 Americans gave their lives so that would never happen again. Think of something else.
Bennett on November 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM
Coleman is only beating Fraken by 200 votes. I give up.
goldeagle11 on November 5, 2008 at 2:00 AM
Wrong. Romney is rich, the media would have lambasted him for that. Come on they made a big deal because Palin $150,000 in clothes. Imagine what they would have done if they would gotten their hands on how much each Romney’s homes were worth. Endless jokes.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:00 AM
O-Bummer
Her and Obama.
Phoenician on November 5, 2008 at 2:01 AM
what Americans are you referring to? The ones who forced a sovereign nation to rejoin the USA? This is not the country the found fathers founded it is something totally different. If you truly believe in freedom you will see that this country is a failure.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:01 AM
I wonder if the Bush Admin staff will remove the O’s from all the keyboards … or all the 0′s?
Tony737 on November 5, 2008 at 2:01 AM
Parents lost this election for us.
Parents who rely on public schools to indoctrinate their children with the belief that as long as they get “good grades” they’ll be fine.
Parents who were so busy worrying about “getting ahead” that they left their children’s morals behind.
We don’t need new, wiser politicians–we need to teach our children how to become wiser parents.
pugwriter on November 5, 2008 at 2:01 AM
If Coleman holds on – Minnesota had a pretty decent election GOP wise. Paulsen hung onto Ramstad’s seat, Bachmann held on and the house didn’t get veto proof majority. With Pawlenty at the helm we might just make it through two years of “change”
gophergirl on November 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM
He is not my President.
No way, no how.
ACORN stole OH, PA, WI, FL, and VA.
Obama garnered $600 Million, mostly in illegal (including foreign) contributions. Campaign finance reform? A JOKE!
He will never be my president. He stole the election and is not worthy.
georgej on November 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I don’t think Palin gives a rat’s you-know-what about what the media does to her at this point. Assuming it’s legal for her to appoint herself to the Senate, I think she should go for it. The GOP needs her in the spotlight. She’s too important to the base to let her rot away in Alaska.
That’s not a knock on the state, mind you. It’s just that it’s a political afterthought given its population and geography.
Doughboy on November 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM
they dont need veto proof majority
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM
If McCain knew the financial crisis was coming, there is NO WAY IN HELL he would have picked Sarah Palin. Does anyone seriously doubt that?
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Hell of a night… I am new posting here but have been a lurker for a while and a proud Lizard for many years. Now to put things a bit in perspective. Yea, I am a disappointed in the results and like that would be news:-) There is one thing that is more important than any election or the results. The country tonight has decided that it would change it’s course in a not so mild manner. The democratic process has worked and guess what? There are no riots, there are no fires, there are no tanks in the streets. In many other countries that would not be the case and contrary to what many nut-roots would think, the Republicans and general conservatives take the process as what it is, pure AMERICAN. Our general philosophies have lost a election. I for one am not moving to France, I am still going to sleep tonight and go to work in the morning. What the nut-roots and congress needs to remember is 1991 and 1992. Jump hard to left and you jump out of your just elected position.
What John McCain did show us, was how to be a class act. Unlike the trash talk of the left and their candidates after the 2000 or 2004 elections. America again, has spoken and in a free election that the rest of world just dreams of being able to have, in a manner that significantly changes the course of is government. All of which brings me to the main point. The who and the philosophy is important but not close to the process, the freedom, the vote.
Everyone have a good evening and sleep well, I am.
Mark
mailmars on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Agreed! Republicans have to go over and around the media. I believe our candidates need to either refuse to participate in the farsiscal debates or demand real substantive debates. They should refuse to give time to the Chris Matthews of the world. But most of all, they must be able to articulate and defend conservative principles. We have not had a well-spoken candidate since Ronald Reagan and it has hurt us. Both 41 and 43 won the office, but both presidencies were hampered by ineffective communication.
flyfisher on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Ummm… first of all, the latest results with 75% of precincts in shows McCain LEADING Mont by 50% to 47%…
and second it wasnt the Party that embraced Liebs, but it was McCain PERSONALLY that embraced him. They are best buddies and McCain welcomed the help and the friendship of his Senate cohort.
Ron Paul is a fringe candidate and a certifiable loon on foreign policy. The Party was right to reject him.
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Stop it. Let us not get petty.
terryannonline on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Hang in there hawk, we need you and everyone serving. This nation will never allow those few idiot dems to bring anyone up on ‘war criminal’ charges. IF there ever was a time, it has since passed into history. The vast majority of Americans won’t stand for it. We stand with you. This is not, thank God, anything like 1972.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Hello everybody,
First please forgive my accent…I was born in Paris France, and I bet they are jumping of joy tonight…They hate us so much! Now that America is gone, I mean “My” America, Land of the brave, they must be so furiously happy! Well, until they will need us to save their butt, which of course we will not do anymore because we will be on the Russian side.
Now, not that I want to be pessimistic but I’ve read Michelle blog and posts and it seems that everybody is ready…to fight again.
May I tell you what is, really, a socialist or marxist country? I come from there so I know.
1) the schools: your children will be endoctrinated from kindergarden
2) no talk radio anymore, therefore no alternative opinion
3) it’s obviously like that here but no more free TV or newspaper – all in the tank.
And much more. The result? everybody, but some hard headed people, will simply follow the brainwashed from the schools, the university and be stupidly happy to work 35 hours a week or even not work at all and be on welfare. This is just the way it is in their mind and they will accept it because they will be brought up that way.
All judges will be ultra liberal so no salvation here – republicans will not have a voice anymore because nobody will hear what they have to say. And considering the number of adult americans who voted for The One today, they will not do anything against that.
I love America since I was born. I am an American. But today, I lost “my” America and I know it will never come back. This is Europe now, and will probably get worse than that soon. This will be for ever because the minds, the American spirit is gone and will never come back through our children.
I prayed not to see that day. But that day came and…I am not saying we should not fight. I am just saying…it’s a lost fight when you are willing to give freedom for “security” . This is called assistanat in french. And once the people get used to that, you can never go back.
I am so so sad…
Prisca on November 5, 2008 at 2:04 AM
It’s about 17,000 votes now. And the Oregon race is surprisingly close. Gordon Smith is only behind 4,000 votes.
Mark1971 on November 5, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Where are you getting your info on Coleman vs. Franken? I am at the MN Sec State office and they have it:
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1065443 42.26
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1048575 41.59
MN Sec State Results(scroll down)
Missy on November 5, 2008 at 2:05 AM
I don’t want your brand of patriotism in the Republican Party either.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:05 AM
Well, of course they weren’t a sovereign nation were they? That was the whole point. Once in, never out. The Civil War settled the issue. A lot of men died to make it so. One election, the results of which we don’t like, is hardly a reason to think we would ever allow ourselves to go through that again.
That’s a lefty whine, secede, leave the country, blah blah blah. How about stay and fight for what you believe in. Or if you really do want to pick a state to secede, pick one we wouldn’t mind losing, say like Vermont? I think they already have a secession movement going on up there.
Bennett on November 5, 2008 at 2:05 AM
You’re wrong if you think they are not going to expend large amounts of political capital to eradicate “conservatives”.
Expect “Fairness” even on the internet. Obama’s new “brown shirt corps” will be watching you at home and on the job.
It’s finally obvious that America is dead. The Republican, through their failure to have any moral compass allowed it to be killed by the the Soviet’s little wind up toys.
It doesn’t matter what anyone believes after this because there will NEVER be anything resembling an honest election.
CrazyGene on November 5, 2008 at 2:05 AM
I am no longer a Republican it’s a dead party that stands for nothing
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:05 AM
I thought Mac would at least carry Missouri.. .but looky here…. its unbelievable, but that race is now absolutely dead even. Mac’s lead in MO is now all of 600 votes.
Un…freaking…believable.
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:05 AM
I guess if i take my neighbors house by force it was never his? You are an idiot.
sirmyth on November 5, 2008 at 2:06 AM
If the Democrats crank up the printing press and drive inflation through the roof, then Paul’s gold standard message will be well received in 2012.
DFCtomm on November 5, 2008 at 2:06 AM
McCain chose Palin to appeal to PUMAS and the Reagan Democrats in the rust belt.
That obviously didn’t pay off…so Romney wouldn’t have cost those votes. He probably would have delivered CO and NV. And he would have seemed more solid on the economic meltdown.
I love Palin, and my daughter loves Palin. I am grateful to McCain for taking the gamble and looking to a young, exciting woman to share the stage with. I frankly am shocked the gamble of having the Palins campaign in union heavy states like PA and OH didn’t pay off.
again, inexplicable. But electorally, Romney would have been the better choice.
funky chicken on November 5, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Did McCain do better in any state than Bush?
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:07 AM
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone right now. Obama in a landslide, a Murtha victory, and Al Franken could potentially be in the Senate.
Armageddon.
pmanley on November 5, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Norm Coleman clinging to a 3,400 vote lead with 90% tallied.
hey, I’m too wired to sleep and this is the one race left I care about…
Always Right on November 5, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Go start your own country then, but Texas and Alaska stays in the Union, because that issue had been settled by a former leader of the Republican Party.
haner on November 5, 2008 at 2:08 AM
How long until the boring ass Obama movie comes out?
Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM
I hope long enough to re-vamp the party and re-energize conservatives, but only long enough.
trailboss on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM
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