Video: Hannity hails HA, Michelle on coal story
posted at 7:40 am on November 4, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Alan Colmes, and Pat Caddell discussed Barack Obama’s comments on coal from his January 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle two nights ago. We get a nice mention from Hannity as his panel marvel at the fact that his remarks about forcing electricity prices to “skyrocket” never got highlighted by the Chronicle:
As always, we can expect Colmes to provide the spin, claiming that McCain has the “same” cap-and-trade system, which they do not. Colmes also tries to claim that Obama wouldn’t bankrupt coal-plant providers after we heard Obama say explicitly that he would. Not even Obama would describe his cap-and-trade system as the same as McCain’s, and in fact McCain encourages exploration and increased domestic production on the front end of all current energy sources as a means to pay for the R&D for future energy sources.
I love Caddell’s response, though, to Colmes’ spin. “I believe you, Alan, but didn’t Obama just say it himself?”
Just for the record: YouTube’s Naked Emperor News should get the credit for this find, at least for the “bankrupt” quote. We added the “skyrocket” quote to that, but we wouldn’t have known to look without the first video produced by NEN.
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That’s all Colmes can do and does do; he’s so shrill!
jimbodeano67 on November 4, 2008 at 7:44 AM
Hannity and some others like Rush and Mark Levin, really need to worry if B Hussein Obama wins. The Obama Administration with the full power of the Executive Branch will crush all opposition. And I’m not just talking about the Fairness Doctrine.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 7:44 AM
Exactly.
Obama’a “Civilian National Security Force” = Hitler’s “Brownshirt”s. Be afraid, be very afraid.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 7:49 AM
They all flat out lie …. the media—supposed watchdogs of the politicians—now lie for them.
1984.
They want a revolution? They’ll get one.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 4, 2008 at 7:49 AM
Don’t we have more coal than anyone on the planet – by far? How could people vote for someone who will regulate energy to the point that our Electric Bills will skyrocket???
marklmail on November 4, 2008 at 7:51 AM
Ed, this is why I visit Hot Air: you and AP are sincere, honest, principled, and stand-up. Forgive the sappiness, but we visitors have been fortunate to walk down this election road with the two of you as our guides.
Many thanks.
BuckeyeSam on November 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM
Yes, Pamela Key of NakedEmperorNews.com deserves ALL of the credit for finding so many juicy nuggets of BHO’s own words.
It is an Army of David’s as Glenn Reynolds says.
rslancer14 on November 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM
I thought Naked Emperor News was the original source that found this audio.
jgapinoy on November 4, 2008 at 7:53 AM
I wounder why should the “Civilian National Security Force” be as strong as the military , what big enemy is it supposed to suppress?
the_nile on November 4, 2008 at 7:54 AM
OK, dope-slap me.
It pays to read the entire post before commenting.
jgapinoy on November 4, 2008 at 7:54 AM
Like I said before, I wish Sean would reach across the desk and bitch slap Colmes.
Than you MM for a job well done.
mindhacker on November 4, 2008 at 7:54 AM
Update:
MASSIVE turnout in Ohio. I waited an hour in my rural farming precinct. Just sent my wife down there.
HerrMorgenholz on November 4, 2008 at 7:56 AM
As morning breaks across the Heartland…
“IT AIN’T OVER ‘TIL IT’S OVER!”
Get your friends and family off their coaches and out of their cubicles to go vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
This nation does not need the Fairness Doctrine. The Marketplace dictates popularity, not the Government. If people had actually wanted to listen to “Airhead America, it would not have bombed bigger than Hiroshima.
GET OUT THE VOTE! GOD BLESS AMERICA!
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM
Fist bump to Ed.
hippie_chucker on November 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM
Agreed, the de facto ‘Fairness Doctrine’, will be reconfigured so as to be nearly irreversible. And it will be just the start of it.
Not sure how, but I fully expect them to make life difficult for FNC. And the conservative blogoshpere. Probably also they’ll find ways to subsidize their MSM, and groups like Media Matters, like they subsidized ACORN.
Surviving the oppression of the Socialist Triumvirate, Obama-Reid-Pelosi, is not going to be easy
petefrt on November 4, 2008 at 8:00 AM
As strong as the military means stronger than law enforcement agencies too.
Scary, just scary.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 8:01 AM
HerrMorgenHolz,
Love your name!
exhelodrvr on November 4, 2008 at 8:01 AM
Can you imagine being one of the folks who voted early for Obama, only to find this out after you voted?
I would feel like such a dope.
jeff_from_mpls on November 4, 2008 at 8:02 AM
Read the entire interview.
Read the actual sentences that came out of Obama’s mouth.
The coal “story” is a non-story.
Obama never said he would bankrupt anything.
Shrieky outrage at cherrypicked comments taken out of context does not a delicious game-changing scandal make.
You’re all out of time. It’s over.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:02 AM
Alan Colmes mouthed off at one point on how this interview was on the SF Chronicle’s website since January.
Yeah, Colmes, it was BURIED somewhere on the site in a way that you wouldn’t know it was there unless you dug really deep to find it.
pilamaye on November 4, 2008 at 8:03 AM
“what big enemy”? . . . the dissenting citizens of this country that now constitute half of the country’s population. Absolute rule requires absolute control of the masses.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 8:03 AM
OT: Is anyone else just a bit uneasy about the level of detail and the way-close up photo of Track Palin in the Times U.K. story? Did they just paint a big red target on his back, or am I just paranoid?
Chewy the Lab on November 4, 2008 at 8:03 AM
Dittos. Thank you, AP and Ed for some of the best coverage and commentary available anywhere!
petefrt on November 4, 2008 at 8:03 AM
I think if he did he would just go poof like the pile of overinflated he is.
jimbodeano67 on November 4, 2008 at 8:04 AM
#1. How did this story get “buried” or missed? Other than the sad fact that this came from the Bay Area, (where 90% of the electorate are far left liberals who would not be inclined to repeat or report this story), the impact would have been greater if this was reported at least a week ago.
Other than Fox reporting this yesterday, the national media is not, (and will not) report this.
#2. If this is the “strategy” Barack Obama plans to use in his administration, (if elected), to implement environmental policy, are we to expect other punitive business busting proceedures that will further cripple our already fragile economy?
#3.
Ifwhen we all get out and vote in mass today #2 becomes moot.Rovin on November 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM
Yes, the Civilian National Security Force.
Reminds me of the old Monty Python sketch where a thinly-veiled Nazi was running for prime minister, and they had man-on-the-street interviews of people expressing doubt and apprehension:
“I don’t know if I like his talk about Boncentration Bamps.”
jeff_from_mpls on November 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM
If the unthinkable becomes reality, Americans who know that freedom is worth defending will need to move quietly and keep in the shadows simply because Obama’s brownshirts will be out and watching. He will direct the FBI and CIA to gather information on any opposition while he works to dismantle the First & Second Amendments. No doubt liberals, RINO’s and pseudo-patriots will support this under the heading of “law and order” while they call for calm and demand we work within the political framework. Thirty-six years ago I swore to defend the constitution. I never defined that oath to mean: “as long as it’s convenient”.
I will not apologize for my passion and I will not submit.
SKYFOX on November 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM
OT: massive turnout at a co-worker’s polling place here in a conservative pocket of MD. Usually five people ahead of him (tries to vote before work each election), this morning: 200.
hoosiermama on November 4, 2008 at 8:07 AM
Don’t I know you from Delphi forums of the olden days? Have you been at HA a long time and I just didn’t notice? Anyway, great to see you here, and I’ll be looking forward to reading your comments
petefrt on November 4, 2008 at 8:07 AM
That Kool-Aid must be addictive!
grapeknutz on November 4, 2008 at 8:09 AM
Woohoo! Open season on dope-slapping jgapinoy, everybody pile on! thwap-thwap-thwap
Whew. Okay I feel better now, thanks. (no worries, jgapinoy, happens to the best of us.)
If I really was the slappy kind I would’ve gone after the wholly retarded elections officials at my local polling place, all wearing “Democrat” badges of course.
The big hang-up? The alphabet. Not making this up. They were arguing about the order of letters in the alphabet. Could not reach agreement. Evidently their educations had not adequately covered this material.
And these are the kind of government-employed people who will be in charge of health care in Obamerica. What could possibly go wrong?
Gilda on November 4, 2008 at 8:10 AM
Colmes (straight out of the Democrat playbook): Hey, McCain wants to screw America too. Everybody does it.
whitetop on November 4, 2008 at 8:11 AM
We must win today! I hope everyone offers to help others get to their polling place if needed.
Madam Liberty on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 AM
We should no longer be surprised that facts don’t matter to Obamaniacs. Theirs is an ideological commitment, technically a fanaticism, the mettle of which is only hardened under the constant hammering of truth. But what should we expect of those sentient products of our learning and our welfare institutions?
microfiction on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 AM
Dream on, commie. Traitor trash comes and goes, but America doesn’t die.
The clock starts tomorrow. He’s got 2 years to be a man, or he’s going to get a Republican Congress to re-educate him.
jeff_from_mpls on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM
Hey Drywall –
As “Senator ‘Bluto’ Blutarsky” once said, “It ain’t over ’til we say it’s over!”
Obama is a Socialist. Americans love their Freedom. We have fought and died for it. I have faith in the American people. There are a whole lot of Joe the Plumbers out there. We enjoy our Churches, our Families, our Jobs, our Friends, Talk Radio, Hot Air, Michelle Malkin,and our Birthright. We are Americans. We do not give up.
Get out the vote. McCain/Palin ’08
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM
Rywall’s partially right here. If the media has already given Obama a “pat on the back” for his 20 year relationship with a racist mentor, and years with an admitted un-repentant terrorist, bankrupting the coal industry will be just another feather in Obama’s cap as far as the nut-wing media is concerned—-right up until their presses come to a screaching halt.
Rovin on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM
Let’s give credit to the PUMA’s too. I’ve been monitoring their sites as well and they were on this story and spreading the word diligently.
I have to admit, they have been very active in this presidential campaign.
JayJay123 on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 AM
Dream on, commie. Traitor trash comes and goes, but America doesn’t die.
The clock starts tomorrow. He’s got 2 years to be a man, or he’s going to get a Republican Congress to re-educate him.
jeff_from_mpls on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM
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commie? What are you, twelve? You sound like an old man who stands on his porch yelling at the traffic to slow down.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 AM
That Pat guy’s reaction is pricelessly honest. Alan of course starts spinning 120%.
ebrawer on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 AM
I’ve sometimes wondered if they chose Alan Colmes to occupy the left chair because he’s so off-putting and unappealing that he can’t adequately defend the views of the left. But then that wouldn’t be fair and balanced would it? So there must be something about Alan that appeals to lefties. I wonder what it is.
Dee2008 on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 AM
Obama is a Socialist. Americans love their Freedom. We have fought and died for it. I have faith in the American people. There are a whole lot of Joe the Plumbers out there. We enjoy our Churches, our Families, our Jobs, our Friends, Talk Radio, Hot Air, Michelle Malkin,and our Birthright. We are Americans. We do not give up.
Get out the vote. McCain/Palin ‘08
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM
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Yeah, there are no socialist programs or policies in effect in America already. None at all. You need to learn a thing or two about what your government actually does.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 AM
Nothing was cherry-picked you lyin’ Axelrod astroturfin’ liar.
McCain would win a 90% majority if not for the lyin’ media.
As it is, we’ll have to settle for a McCain/Palin win with a bit less….but still a win.
VOTE VOTE VOTE people for McCain/Palin!
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 AM
I always wanted to say that, but never had the nerve :)
JiangxiDad on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 AM
I loved Coulter’s line at the end, “The Democrats want us to live like Indians…”
It cracked me up – but it’s true. Fortunately, Republicans are far better prepared to survive under those circumstances than whiny little Democrats.
Logic on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 AM
Rywall’s partially right here. If the media has already given Obama a “pat on the back” for his 20 year relationship with a racist mentor, and years with an admitted un-repentant terrorist, bankrupting the coal industry will be just another feather in Obama’s cap as far as the nut-wing media is concerned—-right up until their presses come to a screaching halt.
Rovin on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM
———–
You clearly haven’t read the transcript. That’s okay. You keep living in partisan obliviousness – it’s so much easier for you to just believe whatever some talking head tells you on the TV set than to think for yourself.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 AM
Oh yes, I forgot the first rule of fight club is you can’t mention fight club.
What I meant was, “progressives” like you are a festering sore on America.
There, scary word is gone.
jeff_from_mpls on November 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM
Nothing was cherry-picked you lyin’ Axelrod astroturfin’ liar.
McCain would win a 90% majority if not for the lyin’ media.
As it is, we’ll have to settle for a McCain/Palin win with a bit less….but still a win.
VOTE VOTE VOTE people for McCain/Palin!
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 AM
———–
You clearly haven’t read the transcript either.
Nor have you investigated McCain’s own little coal episode either. But that’s okay. You’re out of time.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM
If we have to sound like the grown-ups yelling from the porch trying to get the children to slow down it is because we know what happens when you’re out of control.
thomasaur on November 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM
Kingjester,
We do enjoy our churches, families, jobs, friends, etc….don’t forget our guns. Bitterly clinging or not.
mountainmanbob on November 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM
Pat Cadell is my favorite democrat, he is one of the last honest among them all…
Brazilian Neocon on November 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM
(repaired)
Rovin on November 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM
petefrt,
“Don’t I know you from Delphi forums of the olden days? Have you been at HA a long time and I just didn’t notice? Anyway, great to see you here, and I’ll be looking forward to reading your comments”
Yes, that was me. I comment here occasionally; don’t have to time to do it a lot.
exhelodrvr on November 4, 2008 at 8:28 AM
jeff_from_mpls,
Not much fun at Stalingrad!!
exhelodrvr on November 4, 2008 at 8:30 AM
when I saw the first hotair posts on coal I emailed it to all the fox shows, you guys really do great work and need to be rightfully commended
hopefully this will resonate in the coal states and accross America
Americans are mad at the media for the biased coverage, for hiding a canidates flaws, but the voter in the booth will say “who is this guy Obama?”, ‘can I trust him” and vote McCain
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 8:31 AM
Yes, socialism has shown its ugly head in the country and the perpetrators were of the same leftist political regime that is now featuring Obama. Even though a few limited but insidious socialist programs have infected us, we are not yet a socialist state . . . but unfortunately, that could change today.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 8:31 AM
Pat Caddell is great, and was the only fair and sane Democrat voice during the 2000 Florida fiasco. He has already compared Obama to Elmer Gantry the con man.
I’d love to know why he’s still a Democrat.
Buy Danish on November 4, 2008 at 8:32 AM
One thing you can count on, no one will ever publish a compendium called Obama’s Funniest Jokes and Sayings.
Communists are notoriously devoid of humor. Except unintentional jokes like the hilarious Das Kapital or the howler It Takes a Village.
jeff_from_mpls on November 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM
My wife and I are heading out to the polls for McCain adn our republican Congressional cadnidate.
If you have time today, drop by your polling place and ask if you can help out. Most are glad to have you.
You just need to be civil.. (kinda hard sometimes with the moveon idiots0
Find out who the constable or election official is for that poll. If you run into any obamidiots giving you a hard time, get the constable over to take care of ti.
It can be a lot of fun and support for McCain-Palin at the polls will certainly help.
bullseye on November 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM
Germans make good stuff. Or so I’ve heard. I’m glad you always have tomorrow, HerrMH.
hoosiermama on November 4, 2008 at 8:37 AM
Dave –
I am very aware of the Socialist programs in this nation. Some were set up by idealistic men who wanted to help people. Others, by men who wanted control over Americans,
because they thought they were smarter than the “common” man.
This SOCIALIST who is running for President has the most liberal voting record in the Senate. His words and his history of “acqaintances” speak volumes about this individual.
Guys, you are so right about the 2nd Amendment. I’ve enjoyed deer meat recipes many times with my friends.
And, Dave, my intellect is just fine, thank you. Please go visit the Koskids or Huf ‘n puf, where they can truly appreciate yours.
GOD BLESS AMERICA! MCCAIN/PALIN ’08
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 AM
Ann Coulter sounds like a PUMA.
terryannonline on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 AM
Does the Fairness Doctrine apply to satellite radio?
Wolfen on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 AM
Buck up all you Eeyores out there. Enough of this idle chatter about a thugocracy and the conservative underground.
This evening the results will be in and you will be pleasantly surprised to learn that John McCain is the president-elect – just as I have been saying for the past few weeks.
Now stop carping and start voting. Get out the vote. Drive neighbors to the polls.
Encourage the discouraged. Be a part of the solution – not a part of the problem.
Make it happen, my friends, as only we can do it. Let’s roll…
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 AM
Hey, jerkscrew . . . they’ll speak their minds as the wish. Now get off their backs and blow it out your ear, or the orifice of your choice.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Rywall,
Please link to where McCain says he’s going to raise cap n’ trade taxes to the point of bankrupting coal plants.
That the taxes will be so high that it won’t make sense to build new ones.
I’ll wait.
hippie_chucker on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 AM
*covers mouth and scratches nose with middle finger at Alan Colmes*
Mcguyver on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Yes, socialism has shown its ugly head in the country and the perpetrators were of the same leftist political regime that is now featuring Obama. Even though a few limited but insidious socialist programs have infected us, we are not yet a socialist state . . . but unfortunately, that could change today.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 8:31 AM
———–
1985:
“Our plan will also mean an historic correction of a problem we’ve let go on too long — the increasing tax burden on low- and fixed-income Americans that’s been knocking the bottom rungs off the ladder of opportunity. A compassionate, profamily opportunity society should give a break as well to those Americans struggling to get by and move up. And that’s exactly what we intend to do.
By hiking the earned income tax credit, indexing it for inflation, and practically doubling the personal exemption, we can make sure that the working families do not suffer under the burden of Federal taxation. Giving a leg up to those struggling to move up is what America is all about. And that’s a top priority of our tax proposal”
Hmmmm – which dirty socialist said this and enacted the Earned Income Tax Credit, through which people who have paid no taxes at all can still get free money from the government come tax time?
Reagan.
Who voted for 1986 legislation that actually escalated the amounts awarded by the EITC?
McCain.
You need to learn a bit more and blindly cheerlead a little less.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:47 AM
Colmes looked funny clutching his sheaf of newly-printed talking points. heh, heh.
read
RushBaby on November 4, 2008 at 8:48 AM
A lot of us wondered why and how people could do Jim Jones’ bidding, but, unfortunately, many did just that (Jones’ bidding).
Same about Obama. If voters won’t recognize by now more than enough that is offensive about him, adding this latest “leaked statement” to the list isn’t going to make much impact (on them, people like Colmes).
S on November 4, 2008 at 8:48 AM
MANLY RASH SEAL OF APPROVAL.
S on November 4, 2008 at 8:50 AM
OMGosh, Obama is voting, filmed LIVE while he is VOTING. Next he’ll be WALKING but now he is STANDING and trying to figure out how to vote…
Maybe he will come over and TOUCH the camera!
/ hysterical liberal under the inflluence.
S on November 4, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Please link to where McCain says he’s going to raise cap n’ trade taxes to the point of bankrupting coal plants.
That the taxes will be so high that it won’t make sense to build new ones.
I’ll wait.
hippie_chucker on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 AM
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Obama never said he would bankrupt the coal industry. He said that new plant built without new greener technology would most likely not be viable because they would be on the hook for the massive amounts of greenhouse gases they produced. He also said it’s imperative to develop cleaner coal technology.
That’s hardly saying the entire coal industry would be bankrupted, dumba*s.
Dave Rywall on November 4, 2008 at 8:53 AM
Obama’s cult and his other liberals followers have much in common with the Jonestown crowd. They were/are all true believers. Liberalism is a religion and fanaticism is an integral part of that religion. At Jonestown the “Kool Aid” was literal; in this election it is virtual, but just as potent.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
It’s interesting how it is that every single statement made by Obama on tape requires an Obama supporter to later interpret and restate into another statement, despite the original being on tape and heard in the real as it was made, when it meant something else versus the later interpretation by his supporters.
Dave, we all heard Obama say what he said. He said — and his words could be heard with a noticable degree of enjoyment relish by the speaker — that coal plants would be bankrupted (the IMPLICATION is/was that they would suffer and perish if not doing what he was coercing them to do otherwise, the coercive factor being do what he ‘commands’ or else).
Everyone here understands English, Dave. Perhaps it’s Obama who does not, at least not a language he hasn’t written in the air himself.
S on November 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM
I agree that liberalism is a religion, laced with both self destruction and irrational fervor. Liberals are intolerant of all other religions. It’ll be interesting to see what Islam does with them.
S on November 4, 2008 at 9:00 AM
I agree with ManlyRash – DO SOMETHING
My 10 year old daughter and I were out last night making calls, we knocked on over 100 doors on Saturday.
Don’t wait for it to happen – Make it happen.
Gotcha on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 AM
I just dropped in at “Power line” and it appears that voter fraud is a significant problem in Philadelphia and in Minnesota. The left wing gangsters are behaving true to form.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
My learning capacity is great and I need no advice from you. If you want to make an intelligent point or debate an issue, do it . . . but get off the condescending crap.
rplat on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Leave Drywall alone, he’s in for a long day.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM
This is why I love Hot Air. You guys are incredible in your ability to find this information and get it out. Hannity was right to give you all the nod.
The Caddell line was hilarious. He is one Democrat who I can always count on to be totally objective.
Coulter’s line to Colmes near the end (something to the effect of “if you have enough power to run this place”) made me choke on my Diet Coke… LOL!!!
D2Boston on November 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Mmmmmmm. Dining on arugula by candlelight.
BTW, at the Gov. Palin rally in Reno Monday night, many signs: “Got Coal??”
fred5678 on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM
voted for mac and cuda!!!!!!!!
nice to see this BK the coal industry
find in this 11th hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course
NOT FOUND BY MCCAINS STAFF. either way
tomm mccains campaign staff will be
asking “want fries with that”?
tamtam20 on November 4, 2008 at 9:49 AM
It’s already started… Dim’s trying to throw out thr GOP poll watchers.. It’s gonna’ be a mess before it’s all over… Wonder why they don’t want any oversight? What do they have to hide? Sounds fishy but typical..
Dakotobol on November 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Colmes is such an annoying little weasel. I hate the way he spits out his easily refutable little rebuttals to whatever’s being said and then changes the subject immediately in case anyone calls him out on it.
SHUT UP COLMES!
The tragedy is, Hannity lets him get away with it far too ofter. How many times have you seen Colmes get the last word? Hannity deserves a slap too, for being so lame at debating. He often lets Obamabots get away with the most outrageous bullsh*t about taxes etc, without taking them to task for it.
Sharke on November 4, 2008 at 9:51 AM
What Caddell says which is right on is how Obama just throws out terms like “bankrupt” and “skyrocket” without concern for the impact of these terms. Bankruptcy is very painful ask anyone who has gone through it. It is not something that you wish on ANY industry. As far as skyrocketing energy prices, we just went through that with oil this Summer.
Obama talks about all these issues as if he is a young professor with very little world experience. Hmm.
Angry Dumbo on November 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM
Obama sees the economy as a stage on which to perform morality plays about “greed” and “sharing.”
It blinds him to such things as the long term effects of economic policy. I don’t think he even cares.
For instance, raising taxes on big business is just going to result in higher prices for consumers. Taxes are another cost of production and costs are passed onto the consumer, especially when every company is subject to the same increase. We saw this recently when the price of fuel went up – so did the price of virtually everything.
So who’s affected most by a rise in consumer prices? First and foremost: the poor, whose weekly budgets are stretched enough as it is. Secondly, small businesses are affected, because when the prices of mass produced essentials rise, people start to rethink their weekly budgets and edge out the kind of goods and services that small businesses typically provide. They generally sell the things that people they can “do without” should the price of groceries rise, etc.
McCain doesn’t know a lot about economics but at least he knows enough to figure that you don’t raise anybody’s taxes during a recession.
Sharke on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 AM
On Rywall’s semantic distinction between “bankrupt a coal company” and “bankrupt the coal industry”:
Clean coal is, so far, an unrealized possibility. So while we wait for clean coal to become a reality, Obama (if allowed) will tax the INDUSTRY into bankruptcy.
Dee2008 on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Well said, I thank you Ed and AP. Without you and HA and the great commenters here, I would be thoroughly depressed.
4shoes on November 4, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Ms. Coulter makes the point that I can’t fathom:
This has been the Democrats’ plan for decades. They say out loud that they intend to drive oil, natural gas, and coal prices up in order to create artificial incentives for “renewable” energy sources.
How is it that the American public does not have in its mind “Democrat = drive energy costs through the roof?”
If you ever needed to see evidence of the Republican party’s utter failure to differentiate themselves from their opponents, there it is.
There is no need for artificial incentives. When fossil fuels are genuinely scarce, and when alternatives have developed to the point that they’re economically sensible, the alternatives will be cheap enough to produce the switch without driving prices through the roof. The reason they haven’t already is that there’s no real shortage of fossil fuels, and the alternatives simply are not ready.
philwynk on November 4, 2008 at 10:52 AM
One wonders how rywall sleeps at night.
If coal plants are too expensive to operate, then utilities stop building them. If fewer coal plants, then fewer orders for coal. If fewer orders, then coal mining companies lay off workers. And so it goes…
New technologies are wonderful things, and we have a bright future because of them; but it takes 35 to 50 years for a new technology to produce a significant percentage of the nation’s power, and that’s true after the technology is beyond the research stage. DEA says wind power could produce 20% of the nation’s electric power by 2030, with proper incentives. That’s 50 years after the first pilot wind farms. Nuclear power reached about 20% of the nation’s electric power a mere 27 years after the first pilot nuclear plant, but that was after the Manhattan project had generated a knowledge base about nuclear radiation.
Any plan that deliberately raises the price of essential energy based on the promise of some technology on the drawing board is a sure prescription for economic disaster. The reason “we” don’t rely on alternatives today is not some conspiracy, nor some failure to invest, but the simple fact that fossil fuels remain by far the cheapest, most readily available means to drive an economy. The nation’s businesses are not stupid; they will make the transition as soon as it makes economic sense.
philwynk on November 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM
One possibility – “Civilian National Security Force” could take on the US Military. Hitler used the military to assassinate the leaders of the SA brownshirts. Night of the Long Knives – 30 June 1934. It’s hard to fathom anything like that happening here. When I first heard Obama speak at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, something ran up my leg – and it was fear not thrill. I knew then he was not to be trusted. O’Reilly talked about what the “Civilian National Security Force” was with Juan Williams and Mary Katharine Ham last night. These three did not know what Obama meant by this.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/roehm.htm
Regards,
Sweetness0726 on November 4, 2008 at 11:33 AM
When is someone going to slap Alan and make him cry? Hurry, please. I have never seen such an apologist. The man has no shame.
godhelpus on November 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Hi Sweetness:
I hope your assessment is of Obama’s “Civilian National Security Force” is incorrect. After hearing this force was to be as strong as our military the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.
This didn’t sound like the ol’ peace corps we know. Appreciate you providing the link.
I’m just wondering why O’Reilly, Ham or Williams couldn’t or wouldn’t draw that connection?
Cheers
poorhouse_patriot on November 4, 2008 at 12:45 PM
“Bankrupt” and “Skyrocket” need to play non-stop in PA, WV, OH, and CO (and any other Coal producing state). Let Nobama’s own words come back to bite him in the butt.
I wonder if there is buyer’s remorse from those who did the early voting?
DuctTapeMyBrain on November 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Alan Colmes is such a little worm… I actually sometimes have a very small sense of sympathathy for the little sickly feller…
Another thing I truly feel(and I hope)is that the huge voter turnout is not exactly what the common belief is that it’s a large movement for “CHANGE” BHO is pushing.. Quite the contrary… it’s a huge movement against the scary SOB and what he’ll bring..
Dakotobol on November 4, 2008 at 1:31 PM
DryWall,
You little worm. I have been reading your studid A$$ moments for a while. It is people like you keeping me up at night worrying about the fate of our country. Every time I close my eyes all I see is a bunch of lemmings running for the cliff, jumping off with complete abandon. I bet you’ve already been checking out how to become a green shirt in the Civil National Security Force. Oh, you sound just like the kind of sheeple Big O will be looking for to rat out neighbors and family members for turning their thermostats to low or driving an SUV. You are pathetic.
silenced majority on November 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM
that the words bankrupt and skyrocketing prices come out of the mouth of a politician/legislator, when taking about the effects of his energy plan, should give any ignorant masses pause. the words should inspire outrage, if Amis were not medicating away their natural emotional “disorders”.
congrats to HA, for breaking the story (sorta). It’s why I’ve chosen to be here.
socialism delenda est
anti-boomer on November 4, 2008 at 1:37 PM
After taking care of business this morning, I am about to go vote. It is a right and responsibility I do not take lightly. Being a longtime fan of HotAir, it is a priviledge to be able to post here. I can’t wait for Michelle to open her registration up again. I am so pumped I can’t stand it.
This fight is far from over. Drywall did not succeed on his mission to berate and discourage me.
Besides, as my high school latin teacher had on her wall “Illegitimi Non Carborundum”.
Figure that one out, Troll of great intellect.
God Bless America! McCain/Palin ’08!
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 2:05 PM
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