Round two: PA, FL, MO; Update: NBC calls Pennsylvania for Obama; Update: Fox too
posted at 8:00 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No calls yet in round one as I write this. Florida and Missouri won’t be called until late, either, but if The One’s exit poll margin in Pennsylvania really is 15 points, there’s at least a chance it could go early and puncture Maverick’s balloon.
New general election updates will appear in this thread, but I’ll update the last one with results from those states as they come in.
Update: Bright and early as the clock strikes eight, NBC calls Pennsylvania for The One. Start drinking.
Update: Here’s my map from the predictions thread the other day. To get to a McCain victory, you had to flip 50 electoral votes from blue to red. Try doing it without Pennsylvania.
Update: Steve Kornacki does the math. Barring any very surprising upsets, Obama’s already banked 259 EVs. All he needs is one red state from 2004 worth 11 EVs to turn blue and he’s pretty much set.
Update: ABC also says Obama takes Pennsylvania. And, to add insult to injury, New Hampshire.
Update: Exit poll data from Florida per Marc Ambinder has Obama, amazingly, winning Hispanics by 10 points.
Update: Fox News says Obama wins Pennsylvania, too. And according to the CNN map, with 36 percent reporting, he leads in Florida by more than 200,000 votes.
Update: A McCain aide acknowledges to Ambinder that they need a miracle.
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why are you watching MSNBC? just for the reassuring silkiness of keiths voice?
road2utopia on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Tom Udall (D) has won Domenici (R)’s seat in New Mexico. Jeff Sessions (R) wins re-election in Alabama. Sen. Thad Cochran (R) wins re-election in Mississippi.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
I wouldn’t. Because that would mean that Al Gore would have been President on 9/11/01.
Bennett on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
And now they are saying Udall has beaten Pearce(R) for Senate in NM.
But no precincts have reported yet.
Screw you FOX
LegendHasIt on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
PA and OH are too close to call. There I said it.
long_cat on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
I’m going to get a much needed nap, set the alarm, and come back to things in an hour or two….
Right now, I’m seeing abslolute BS on fox’s map with florida showing 18 percent ‘other’. However, if you look it is only .oo2 percent of the precincts reporting. Not enough votes are in to figure anything at this point.
I did talk with a client whose systems I was working on for a bit today.. She voted obabababa ‘we…. need… change….must …have ….change”… Her company will get screwed with forced unionization and taxes… my bet, she’s out of business 2 years into a omamamibi administration.. She’ll be scratching her head wondering why everything came unglued and why her income dropped like a freaking rock.
Oh, the money point… She said she doesn’t use her computers at home.. so… she gets all her ‘information’ from the lamestream press.
Screwit, I’m gonna get some z’s and check back in a bit.
cheers
bullseye on November 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM
We’ll be back but the country and our wallets are going to hell and back ala Jimmy Carter.
I remember- it really sucked, but people have short attention spans so it seems like ancient history (shakes head).
jjshaka on November 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Manly, looks like yours may be the only finger left in the dike. And don’t take that the wrong way.
johnnynucleo on November 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM
I’m standing with YOU, Mr. Rash.
Never give up! Never stop fighting! Never, never!
Semper Paratus
DrStock on November 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM
I know. NM counts on their fingers and toes. WE usually don’t have a count until days after….what makes today different?
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Has the MSM ever lied to you?
How could they be wrong now?
profitsbeard on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Sigh.
Stop panicking, you rabbits. We’ll know when we know.
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
By: Dick Morris @ 8:49 PM
One thing is clear at this point: The polls were wrong!!!
Obama may still win, but he is not winning by the margins the polls predicted.
In state after state, it is obvious that McCain is doing better than predicted.
The exit polls also appear to be wrong.
Until we see how McCain does in North Carolina and Florida (he has to win both to win the election), we cannot see how the race will go nationally.
But it is clear that this is no blowout as the polls had predicted.
© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
econavenger on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Who will join me in wishing the troll newb a hearty HotAir HAIL and FUCK OFF.
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I don’t know what to feel. I’m sad at this point and would love to be shocked after all is in.
But it seems the writing is on the wall.
Some posts sound like desperation.
I don’t drink so I’ll just continue to pray and work regardless.
jimbodeano67 on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
COME ON Coleman!
I’ll feel better once that filibuster is secure.
gophergirl on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
now starting round three in another thread
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
No, if this holds, it just means its time to go to work tomorrow. There is not enough money to make good on all the candy Obama and the Dems have promised. Although it does not seem likely, one would think that being repeatedly stiffed by the Dems, folks would skip the Kool-Aid next time.
olmojoe on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I am looking at the senatorial races. The conservatives are winning and the moderates and liverals are losing, sans Collins
ConservativePartyNow on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Well..freedom had a good run for 232 years…sorry it died on our watch, but we did what we all we could..the very best we could…seriously folks, tomorrow begins the era of hopenchange. There will probably never be another truly non-corrupt. free election in this country. Every non-Socialist will swim upstream against the tide of groupthink from here on out. American was an interesting experiment while it lasted. I guess humanity really does deserve what it’s weakest impulses demand. I can’t wait until the rest of the world finds out that we won’t save them from tyrants or give a damn about their personal freedoms…that we have finally become just like them.
AUINSC on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
newton:
Oh please? Can not recover from this blow? How old are you? I remember the days of Nixon, nothing the GOP is seeing here tonight is the end of the world. In fact, there is nothing that strange about the White House changing power after 8 years. Once upon a time it was only to be expected.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Yeah, but don’t expect the little mustache, unless BO gives him a dirty sanchez.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
FOX 9:09PM:
PA 66-33 WITH 7%
OH 57-41 WITH 7%
SO WHY CALL PA & NOT OH?
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN?
NightmareOnKStreet on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I think he means the close calls. I’d take a drawn out court battle in a heartbeat if it meant a McCain win. I’m still waiting for the REAL numbers from PA and OH.
Oddly, I’m very calm right now.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I’m not giving up yet. Maybe I’m crazy, but this Pennsylvania early call just does not make sense to me.
Gina on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Sorry, Aint going to happen with me. Liberals have called my President every name in the book for the last eight years. Liberals have called me and my comrades at war murderers. SO, now if their guys wins they want us to stay classy and come together because the country needs to be fixed? News Flash, they broke it!
If Obama wins, I start my active opposition to anything he does that even smacks of a true socialist movement. Try the Fairness Doctrine, try to ban guns.
Here’s my first bumper sticker, “Obama Lied, Babies Died!”
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I’m really going to miss Brit Hume.
gatorgirl on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
McCain is hardly getting his ass kicked. Dems should be winning 30-40 states.
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
We would, but then nobody would watch them until the final hour or so.
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
This Fox coverage is a joke. If Kelly wasn’t on here I wouldn’t even watch it anymore.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Frickin Boneheads.
Buck Turgidson on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Land of Retardment….Illegals…don’t let them fool you. NM SUX!
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
McCain’s got to turn around FLA, OH, NC and then carry NEV and Colorado and hold his lead in all the other battlegrounds.
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Sorry…didn’t mean to tell the troll to fuck off TWICE….
***but not really***
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Looks like it’s time to whip out “The Road to Serfdom” by F. A. Hayek. Viva la France!
alwaysright43 on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Johnstown is full of selfish, pork hungry douchebags. This, unfortunately, isn’t a surprise. Hopefully Bill Russel will be able to run again in 2012 and finally finish off that old bastard.
If we can flip either Kanjo or Carney, I’ll be happy with the PA House raises (regardless of an Old Bastard win in Johnstown).
How pathetic are you? I normally don’t like to talk smack about the Kossacks or the DUers unless they really do something horrible. And I certainly wouldn’t troll over there on election night. You are worthless. You are dirt. And you’ll get what’s coming to you when Obama takes power. America will.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
I really am gonna miss Brit Hume …”come here big boy” lol
silentMajority on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Meghan Kelly is the only person remotely trying on Fox tonight. I really wish they wouldn’t treat 2% reporting in as a done deal.
Kamikaze on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Welcome to the ramparts, Dr. Stock.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Goddammit, I’m still with ya Manly.
Took a time out and went to the state sites. Some of the reported vote totals don’t quite matchup with FOX reporting.
Exit polls are crap.
BacaDog on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Popular vote–
BHO: 90.12 million
McCain: 90.09 million
jgapinoy on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Do he defeat a True Man?
Saltysam on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Pumas are LIARS!
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Why now, this plan has worked so well so far! /sarc
CBarker on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
They haven’t called Arizona yet?
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
that makes no sense at all
funky chicken on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
62% who want amnesty for illegals in New Mexico went to Obama.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
I hate my state.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Keep yer heads. As Barone said, the spread between exit polling results and actual votes is unusually high, something like O +10% exit poll to actual votes.
This thing isn’t over.
LostInOz on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
MAC ATTACK IN FL!!!!! now within 1000 of BHO!!!
Kid from Brooklyn on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
look folks… we have 10-13% of pumas voting mccain in these states… that’s significant even if megyn kelly doesn’t get it
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM
The Fox interactive site no longer puts up the colors on the main map, but if you mouse over, you can see the actual vote numbers. . .
http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
There were no PUMA’s. I’ve been saying. It’s just a couple of people on a website. Most stories had 3-4 comments on them. Their numbers were insignificant.
lorien1973 on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Uncle_Ainess,
Cup the stones and open wide because it’s on it’s way!
thomasaur on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Uncle Aina can pay my taxes for the next four years. Thanks!
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Guys, do what I did and turn off the TV, no one makes you listen to those people.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
MI; McCain 122,146 (52%), Barry 109,905 (47%) with 6% precincts reporting. Yet they award the state to Soetoro. I guess they figure the remaining 94% is all Detroit and Flint?
long_cat on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
About farking time. Get up here on the rampart. The view of the battle is much better from up here.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Udall is running in COlorado
road2utopia on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
I’m with you all the way!! Never surrender!
alwaysright43 on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Ohio has four cities all relatively the same size and those cities tend to split each other with a bunch of other areas that either favor blue or favor red.
PA has 1 HUGE city that is always blue and a few decent size cities that are usually predominately blue. The rest of the state, even if it landslided towards McCain, wouldn’t overcome that gap.
That’s probably why they slot PA without slotting OH
bds1976 on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
S’cuse me (hand up very timidly)ahm, sorry but just one little bitty thought (Joe the Plumber’s date says nervously)I, um, have been like sorta’ workin’ side by side with a whole lot of these kinda PUMA people, and, um they kinda want to have Barry’s ass on a spit(?) Are you, like um, telling me they are irrelevent? Cuz’ if you are, Oh golly sorry, I’m like gonna have to sort of go after your jugular vein with like a really sharp instrument.
Sorry [smiles sweetly]
Love them PUMAS. Kiss kiss
Chewy the Lab on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
I was just thinking about reading this book the other night. I’ve had it for years, but never read it. I’m reading Atlas Shrugged right now and have the Forgotten Man coming in the mail.
Mark1971 on November 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
seejanemom-
+1
Uncle_Anus-
Life must be very empty that you cannot be with people you like.
The media is playing the suckers for all they’re worth.
Calm.
Wait for the actual votes to come in.
Until then, it’s all smoke and rectums.
profitsbeard on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
whoops, UP 1000!!!!!!!!!
Kid from Brooklyn on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Why, it’d be my pleasure! F-U-C-K O-F-F.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
We have to think of a different question for us Christians: is America our real home, or is it Heaven? Our citizenship is really in Heaven, not on Earth. The Bible makes it painfully clear.
God is our King, and His Kingdom is not of this world. America was once a “shining city on a hill”, but no longer. It is soon to become just another socialist country, just like the ones in Europe. Pilgrims left Europe to find freedom and start over here. We, today, have nowhere to go to start over.
And the next question comes here: Are we ready to confront the certainty of our beliefs when we are placed between the golden image of The One and the fiery ovens? I hope we are, because we will all be tested, sooner or later.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Mac up 52/46 in Michigan.
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Not watching MSNBC just saw the post about them completing their transition into the Obama camp….guess they feel its safe to bring back Olby and Matthews. Douche bags.
Keith Overbite Countdown to NO RATINGS!
silentMajority on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Come up on the rampart. Join me and Dr. Stock.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Read the HillBuzz primer predicting all this. Make yourself a sandwich, have a glass of milk, do some f-in’ thing.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
We have his idiot cousin here in NM. Damn stupid voters. Give it AWAY, you money grubbing cheese eaters!
I am PISSED!
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
AMEN, IF OBAMA WINS, PAYBACKS A BITCH!
NightmareOnKStreet on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Rush said on his show,like a lot earlier today!
Don’t pay attention to the exit polls!
And turn off the MSM!
But yet,I’m watching ABC,like a moth,at a camp fire!
canopfor on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I will not believe a word of this I am hearing on the so called news. I can’t believe they called Michigan for Obama with 53% gpomg to McCain. Thats true bs and besides that was with only 4% of the vote in.
littlered on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I’m slightly dyslexic. For a moment I thought your post read, “Now starting round three in the head”. Pfew, you had me worried there.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Anyone miss the comic relief that Dan Rather provided us for all those years? He used to get so goofy around midnight. Usually talking about crocodiles crossing the river in Texas! LOL!
gatorgirl on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
*Paging Dr. Kevorkian, Paging Dr. Kevorkian. Call your office* You guys are sounding defeated way before all the facts are in. MSM, including our “beloved” Fox is actively suppressing the vote. They have a narrative to fulfill. Channel Churchill…..never give up!
Proud Texan on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
LOL. Midnight Run.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Folks, relax on all of the hatin’. That’s what libtards do.
If the “polls” hold, I will be the reverse-Michelle Obama; i.e. for the first time in my life, I will be ashamed of my country.
But hey, what am I gonna do now? First, I’m going to stop all “frivolous” expenses. I’m canceling the gym membership (especially because it’s Lifetime Fitness, based out of Chicago.) The family and I are going to go “John Galt” as much as we can.
America gets the leaders it deserves. Looks like we deserve an ass-kicking. So be it. And don’t think that there won’t be dancing in the streets in the same places that danced on 9/11/01.
Sugar Land on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I’m going to feel this way in the morning I think, but for right now, I got my boyfriend to vote and I voted so we’ve done our civic duty. The rest is up to God.
I wish that my son’s school’s entire 5th grade class could have been the decision makers: McCain 19, Obama 8, NV 1
Sultry Beauty on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Where you gettin’ that?
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I think its clear that Clinton Democrats wanted to win more than they wanted to give Hillary a shot- 4 years to wait is too long.
PUMA myth? just not enough sadly
jjshaka on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Looks like The Resistance begins on 1/20/09, comrades. Fight the Power.
patriette on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
I’m there, Manly. Armed and ready to fight!
BacaDog on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Well, we both know the “Fix was in” with SoS Herrera printing up three times as many ballots as required by the actual population, ACORN ‘registering’ 15,000 new voters every week during the last two months, and King Bill’s personal guarantee that the dems would win, and Udall’s long time partner and employee in charge of of the Elections Bureau….,
But can’t they at least PRETEND to count the votes first??
LegendHasIt on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Time to move on to round three. I’ll be manning the rampart, if any of you sniveling, feckless, fickle cowards care to join me.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Heh.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Obama 174
McCain 64
brush the dirt off my shoulder..
Uncle_Aina on November 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
No we didn’t do all we could. We let the friggin’ Communists take over our schools. Socialists is too kind a word, it’s Communists.
Bit by bit, they changed the textbook, leveled the playing field, made our kids soft nothings by removing excellence and competition.
If you ever want this country back, you’d better start with the education system.
eaglesdontflock on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
If we can stay within a few points of Obama on the pop vote and retain the buster, we can come back next time without too much damage.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Just got in from a road trip and turned on the news. Once again I see the psychics of the media are calling states and awarding electoral votes with almost no votes counted. Why do we persist in voting? Why don”t we just ask the fucking pundits to prognosticate the whole thing and tell us who won and that way we don’t have to stand in line and shit.
DaveinWS on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Don’t ever say that in my presence unless you want a knuckle sandwich. Stupid citizens, yes. Country shall never be ashamed of.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
OH to Obama on Fox
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Total slap in the face to McCain. Sadly we have an uninformed electorate. This is what is known as a GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT.
FOX JUST CALLED OHIO
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
And another one to illustrate how absurd even Fox News is;
New Mexico, < 1% reporting, McCain has 57 votes. Thats right I said 57 or 89% of the vote, Barry has 7 votes. Yep count ‘em 7. Oh, guess who Fox News awarded the electoral votes to?
long_cat on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
I just ran the numbers for VA 5 minutes ago.
19K votes left to be counted and McCain is ahead by 30K.
Yet no call from the MSM.
Millions of votes left to be counted in PA, and they’re calling it for Obama. Go figure.
Jason Coleman on November 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
It’s over.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
I had a bad feeling when Hannity opened with that intro
jjshaka on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Ohio for Obama.
GAME FREAKING OVER.
BYE MANLY – YOU’RE AN IDIOT.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
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