Round two: PA, FL, MO; Update: NBC calls Pennsylvania for Obama; Update: Fox too
posted at 8:00 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No calls yet in round one as I write this. Florida and Missouri won’t be called until late, either, but if The One’s exit poll margin in Pennsylvania really is 15 points, there’s at least a chance it could go early and puncture Maverick’s balloon.
New general election updates will appear in this thread, but I’ll update the last one with results from those states as they come in.
Update: Bright and early as the clock strikes eight, NBC calls Pennsylvania for The One. Start drinking.
Update: Here’s my map from the predictions thread the other day. To get to a McCain victory, you had to flip 50 electoral votes from blue to red. Try doing it without Pennsylvania.
Update: Steve Kornacki does the math. Barring any very surprising upsets, Obama’s already banked 259 EVs. All he needs is one red state from 2004 worth 11 EVs to turn blue and he’s pretty much set.
Update: ABC also says Obama takes Pennsylvania. And, to add insult to injury, New Hampshire.
Update: Exit poll data from Florida per Marc Ambinder has Obama, amazingly, winning Hispanics by 10 points.
Update: Fox News says Obama wins Pennsylvania, too. And according to the CNN map, with 36 percent reporting, he leads in Florida by more than 200,000 votes.
Update: A McCain aide acknowledges to Ambinder that they need a miracle.
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Now Fox is just rattling off these states 2 seconds after voting closes. All based on exit polls.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Early results in PA look really wierd!
Obama, 138,000 votes
McCain 51,000 votes
Nader 53,000 votes
I don’t care what district it’s in, how does Nader pull 21% to McCain’s 20%???
Professor_Chaos on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Fox said calling Ohio for Obama mistake.
Gave me a hear attack. Or atleast just delayed it.
gumble on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
They f***ed up. It wasn’t a real call for Ohio.
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
EV Count: Obama 174 to McCain 69.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
ABC calls Michigan, NY, Rhode Island, Minnesota and Wisconsin for Obama.
ABC calls Kansas, North Dakota and Wyoming for McCain.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Fox, you’re giving me heart failure!
Gina on November 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
OT – but FOX is really stumbling tonight. I hate to say that about my employer…but their coverage is pretty lame. Too many gimmicks.
jbtripp on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
What did I miss?
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Alas, my state is another failure…people want free stuff from rich people.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Idiotic, why do they do this every friggin election year? Calling states with 3% of the vote in then having to recall them two hours later?
DUMB!!!
rollthedice on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Oh God, It’s Axelrod.
(Hey, that rhymed)
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
OHIO Thanks ACORN!!!
katy on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Almost 50 percent of my religion is apparently OK with infanticide.
Beyond disgusting
jjshaka on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
FU Axelrod!! Go to hell!
gumble on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Hitler Axelrod is on FOx. I hate him.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Seriously. They just called NM, and they almost called Ohio. SERIOUSLY.
This is freakin’ ridiculous, and it’s FOX.
SHAME.
duanesm on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Seriously guys! You’re scaring the sh@$t out of me with all these Obama wins this…oh wait, no he didn’t…not yet, at least, comments.
Achilles on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Nite. I’m done here.
Fuck Obama
BacaDog on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I think we’re done, guys. McCain is getting his ass kicked.
The country, as we know it, is finished.
capitalist piglet on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Present company excluded, of course. *bows courteously* Apologies, sir.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
A) FOX NEWS MAKES ME SICK
B) ANY CATHOLIC THAT VOTED FOR MR. INFANTICIDE MAKES ME GRAVELY ILL.
Nuge em on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
David Axeldouche on Fox w/ Garrett spouting hopenchange bull. You think they’ll still sling that shit even when the soup lines start forming?
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Taking names, Manly?
Saltysam on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Something that you guys don’t get is that 50% of self-identified catholics just call themselves that because of ethnic or social reasons. Catholicism is not their religion, they do not go to church or practice the faith. There is nothing the church can do about people identifying themselves as catholics just because the want to.
neuquenguy on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Anyone notice that David Axelrod has an Adolf Hitler comb-over?
olmojoe on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
How did Obama’s EC vote go from 200 to 163?
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Lieberman may caucus with Repubs, we’ll see. and Mathews will be a weak candidate, he’s said too much controversial stuff not to have it used against him. He’s only running because Olbermann is basically running him out of MSNBC. I don’t see Specter voting for liberal judges (remember PA is still socially conservative on many issues) or for Obama’s New Deal 2 policies. I also think, given the possibility of a prolonged recession, that many will be having buyers remorse when it comes to Obama, and there won’t be any Republicans left to kick around.
that number needs to be under 60, desperately.
DAMNIT FOX. they accidentally called Ohio for Obama, i just died a little inside.
Nina Easton is a fool imo, she actually thinks this election is showing that America is now a Center Left nation. I see no sign of that, what i see is anger directed at Bush’s center left policies…but they aren’t looking at it from an ideological standpoint, they just see Bush.
and Bill Kristol is always sulking during these things. He needs to cheer up a bit.
Daemonocracy on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Good point but who wouldn’t trade 00 or 04 for this one.
road2utopia on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Axelrod reminds me of Peter Lorre. Only uglier.
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Obama might have more electoral votes right now, but actually on the popular vote it is neck and neck at 49.6% each. Look up the Messiah just might not win this thing.
littlered on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
FOX PROJECTS OBAMA WINS PA AND MI MN NY NM RI WI
NightmareOnKStreet on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
CNN is unwatchable. They call states that JUST closed and don’t have even a single vote in. Un-f%$ingbelievable.
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Relax people. They’re calling states with like 1% of the vote in. They’re just calling them because the other networks are so they can keep a hold of the viewers.
KSgop on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
The election results on RealClearPolitics is fairly complete – I’m having difficulty with the Fox News electoral map.
Cindy of TX on November 4, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Boo Badgers. I wasn’t really counting on us to deliver, though.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Turkeys in a hailstorm. Basically.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Murtha is winning 57-43 with <1% in.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Where can I find the raw numbers state by state as they come in?
tired of watching fox news called wi as my clock was striking 8 which is when the polls closed.
I would rather keep track on a refreshable website
OneEyedJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Fox retracted the Ohio call
bdestini on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Sort of Ernest runs the Nazi party.
olmojoe on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
The early calls are always aggravating because of the effect on the western states. It’d be nice if they’d quit doing that and just let the actual election play itself out. This is particularly true of a state whose role in this election is as important as PA’s.
Beatnik Joe on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Don’t insult Peter Lorre that way. ;-)
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
To paraphrase Grampa Simpson,
The President’s a Socialist!
Whaaaaa!
sob!
rbj on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
We laugh together tonight, tomorrow is tomorrow, but we will be together one way or another.
Steady girly, don’t knock our PUMA friends. We’re getting upset over MSM stupidity. It is all part of their evil plot.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Kanjorski also winning against Barletta 58-42.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
I’d kiss him every day. Love the guy. He’s so smart and collected.
carbon, Nina is still a leftie. She tries to hide it but it’s sublty seeping through every time she speaks.
Entelechy on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Buzz off
ManlyRash on Nov 4,2008 at 9:01PM.
ManlyRash: SOS,MR,What’s the view from the Western Voter
Front!!
How’s it looking!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):)
canopfor on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
canadians have the raw numbers
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/usvotes/interactive-elex-results.html
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
A Christian cannot support the most militant pro-abortion candidate of all time any more than I could be a surgeon. Just I say I’m one doesn’t make it the truth.
thomasaur on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
I’m going to go stand by my mailbox and wait for my checks to start coming from the messiah.
jbtripp on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
had Hillster won the nomination I’d be napping on the couch without a care in the world.
road2utopia on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Nah. I don’t hold grudges here. They’re panicked, is all.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Oh what the hell does Nina Easton know about the middle class?
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Fox has earned a boycott!
I told you this would happen when they sold a controlling interest to the Saudi muslim terrorists.
SaintOlaf on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Where can I find the raw numbers state by state as they come in?
tired of watching fox news called wi as my clock was striking 8 which is when the polls closed.
I would rather keep track on a refreshable website
OneEyedJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
RCP has a nice.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Axelrod The King Maker (Axelrod’s Obama)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZydhWoEHCdM
econavenger on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Super. Should have known. NM is for retards.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Axelrod—”We feel good.” Yay socialism! Yay infanticide and tax payer funded abortion on demand! Yay Reparations! I feel like I am in Jerry’s Bizzaro World. WTF??? I am hanging on by a thread here.
Babino on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Naw, we got the 2010 midterms to offer Americans one last emergency chance to reverse the leftward shift. If we can make big gains then, we’ve got Jindal, Sarahcuda, Mitt, and probably some as-of-now unknown leaders waiting for us in 2012. We can survive (if we can filibuster some of that hopenchange).
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
2 more Senators for we Kool aid drinkers.
Bradley effect? (cough)
Uncle_Aina on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Keynsian economics is at its core based on the Broken Window Fallacy. We are about to get this on steroids, it will trigger another depression.
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
to be honest… i’m so irate with republicans for abandoning conservatism… fiscally especially… but they’ve screwed the pooch on a lot of other issues too.. they need to realize the country is center right and start governing to the right… when your brand looks like a watered down democratic brand… we’re screwed….
but… so far. i’m not willing to say it’s in the bag for obama… i’m just ticked with republicans for acting like total gutless cowards the past few years
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Could we please carry ourselves with class and not look like kos.
Big Orange on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Mr. Rash,
Your doing a fine job of keeping the troops positive, cheers.
abinitioadinfinitum on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
*shrugs* Beats me. I live in NJ.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM
THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION’S SECOND TERM in 3….2…
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Carl Levin (D) wins re-election in Michigan. Barrasso (R) wins election in Wyoming.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
If this is close, I hope McCain doesn’t concede period.
NightmareOnKStreet on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
How are they calling Michigan for Barry, when it’s only 3% precinct reporting and McCain is winning by thousands of votes? Huh?
long_cat on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Really. He’d be good in mini-series of his own.
Fortunata on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I don’t see how they can call Michigan for nobama only 4% of the vote in and McCain 53% to nobama 45% They need to shut up the results aren’t even in.
littlered on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
LOL!
You crack me up.
Saltysam on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
McCain only down 1% nationally so far, even though Obama far ahead on the EC.
We got that fillibuster intact, thank Jesus.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Exit polls should be illegal. Only actual REAL fricking votes should be reported.
Calling a state before at least 50% of all precincts have reported should be illegal as well.
Stupid media.
Kirin on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Interesting. Her hubby worked for Mitt.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
My brothers have beat me to it. The God of Abraham. The Father of Jesus Christ the Righteous. The maker of heaven and Earth. The Alpha and Omega.
It is from Him my hope comes for this “Shining City on a Hill”.
HE IS MY KING.
Regardless of the outcome, GOD IS IN CONTROL.
THIS IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH…FOUNDED THROUGH THE GRACE OF GOD.
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I am beginning to think we would be better off if the networks and cable just sort of laid back on all this and let the votes be counted and then once they really knew what was going on, just told us. It would beat the hell out of this crap. I made my guy turn the TV off and go to bed. I just got sick of listening to them yak.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I will not believe any losing arguments or statements until ALL the polls are closed and ALL the votes are counted….and until I finish this bottle of Yellowtail Cabernet. People, people, people….it ain’t over till the fat lady sings and I am working on getting her drunk right now! Go, Johnny, go!
Proud Texan on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
354 out of 9293 PA precincts have reported (thus far as of 9 pm) reporting,
so it must be true, the newies know more than the Commonwealth’s own voting results counters itself,
plus Bucks Co. had precincts open until 9pm because of voting machine problems.
So…anywho
tommy35 on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
MSNBC MAKES ME SICK!
silentMajority on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I hadn’t counted on this degree of sheer panic.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
amerpundit’s keeping me up to date.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
AZ too close to call. sounds fishy.
Phoenician on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
clemycali on November 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM
When did you leave Romania?
Entelechy on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
I think it’s over, guys.
There is nothing else to be done tonight. It’s over and done.
As for the GOP: it might as well close shop and disappear into the night, because I really don’t think it can recover from this blow. Burn it to ashes, and probably, just maybe, something else newer and better can rise from it.
As for us, all we can do is to stay silent for a good, long time and watch as it all unfolds. With Democrats having absolute power, there is nothing (I repeat: nothing) they cannot do to harm us into oblivion.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Sen. Pat Roberts (R) wins re-election in Kansas. Sen. Tim Johnson (D) wins re-election in South Dakota.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
*** Let me explain this ONE LAST TIME, the MSM is using it’s own agenda, it is giving ALL the STATES to Obama based on what they want you to see, you can NOT call a State with ZERO % of the vote counted, but yet, they have in PA, but why have they NOT called TEXAS and other RED States for McCain??? Because they want to DEPRESS the west vote…
Mark Garnett on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Joesamas Mama gives up. Going to pray (hope it can make a difference), then drink a beer and go to bed and dry. Thanks for letting me comment. I don’t have many people I can vent to.
joesamas mama on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Who will join me in wishing the troll newb a hearty HotAir HAIL and FUCK OFF.
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
as missouri goes, so goes the nation, stay true this year!
commodore on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
carbon:
I don’t know if Nina is a leftie, but she has no idea how most Americans live, none of those people do.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
I’d kiss….
Entelechy on Nov 4,200 at 9:05PM.
Entelechy: Good Evening Lady Entelechy,the day of
reckoning is here!:)
What a Political journey,Eh!:)
canopfor on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Hello. I have no idea what this post refers to because I have not read the entire thread (was eating dinner and cracking open the wine). I do like your name though, for obvious reasons at this point. *hic*
Have our “betters” called the election for their pet, Obama, yet? Have the chattering classes already tittered their smug approval?
Oh jolly then. Would it be too declassé to start the resistance right f’in now?
Gilda on November 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Relax some of these states are being called with 0% in.
cobrakai99 on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Manly you are right. McCain will win, and it will be a testimony to God. Many Churches have prayed and fasted these past few days for this nation and it’s people.
When Obama loses, it will be a referendum against his Marxist ideologies, his stance on abortion, his arrogance, and his willingness to be projected as a ‘Messiah’. Our Lord will only have us worship him, not some ‘idol’ that people have propped up.
After this is over, the United States really needs to look inward and see how a Marxist came so close to becoming our President. I’ll give you a hint, the public schools, and liberal Universities.
Stay strong & thank you Manly!
timinnc on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Thanks everyone (especially Manly)…..still, we lost DOLE in NC!
Karen_VA on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Shall we do a little jig for him….who cares…OH HELL. Steve Pearce lost….gain for dims.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
This is playing out exactly the way HillBuzz said it would. Stay frosty.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
ok time to get organnized
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
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