Round two: PA, FL, MO; Update: NBC calls Pennsylvania for Obama; Update: Fox too
posted at 8:00 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No calls yet in round one as I write this. Florida and Missouri won’t be called until late, either, but if The One’s exit poll margin in Pennsylvania really is 15 points, there’s at least a chance it could go early and puncture Maverick’s balloon.
New general election updates will appear in this thread, but I’ll update the last one with results from those states as they come in.
Update: Bright and early as the clock strikes eight, NBC calls Pennsylvania for The One. Start drinking.
Update: Here’s my map from the predictions thread the other day. To get to a McCain victory, you had to flip 50 electoral votes from blue to red. Try doing it without Pennsylvania.
Update: Steve Kornacki does the math. Barring any very surprising upsets, Obama’s already banked 259 EVs. All he needs is one red state from 2004 worth 11 EVs to turn blue and he’s pretty much set.
Update: ABC also says Obama takes Pennsylvania. And, to add insult to injury, New Hampshire.
Update: Exit poll data from Florida per Marc Ambinder has Obama, amazingly, winning Hispanics by 10 points.
Update: Fox News says Obama wins Pennsylvania, too. And according to the CNN map, with 36 percent reporting, he leads in Florida by more than 200,000 votes.
Update: A McCain aide acknowledges to Ambinder that they need a miracle.
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I’m sorry, but are these exit polls magic? Do they have some special ingredient that was lacking in the exit polls of 04? Oh they don’t? Oh good, now let’s close our pie holes and maintain positive thoughts.
SuperBunny on November 4, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Yes…..and with a SPLASH of Ketamine and a side of OREOS…..***YUM-O!***
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Yes they love riots of all kinds. Newsworthy, you know.
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 8:38 PM
That’s why I’m laughing.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:38 PM
I really want to throw something at the idiot box when FOX calls PA for Odumbo with <1% of the vote in. Maybe they just want the McCain Comeback to sting that much more.
RubyBee on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
19% pumas in Pa
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Georgia goes to McCain.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Fox in a hen house………….
kareyk on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
What’s with Fox News showing the Obama victory gathering? I’ve had it with them!
TruthShallSetYouFree on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Fox calls GA for McCain. Woo hoo.
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Mac should have tried to gone after Michigan not Pennsylvania.
terryannonline on November 4, 2008 at 8:35 PM
I’m in Michigan, and I agree with McCain’s decision. We’re in Dem Party hell here with no way out. No republican is going to win the Gov, senate or POTUS from the socialist state of Michigan.
swami on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
I’m still saying they’re wrong on PA.
MrX on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Way, way too soon to be second guessing the strategy.
ClintACK on November 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Lol. I think he’s saying that the numbers change once certain counties start reporting. McCain’s catching up in FL and Obama’s going to start catching up in IN once Gary reports.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
I still don’t understand how you can call a swing state based on exit polls… non-swing states I get.. but PA? It was SO close in 2004.
rightallthetime on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
I can haz shitty exit polls?
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Mac up by 1 in TX
CNN calls PA
Tony737 on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
I know; it’s annoying the crap out of me.
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Fox calls Georgia. Yay.
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Can someone explain how they be calling these states solely based on exit polls that have been wrong the past two elections?
jks16 on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Only actual votes in so far are from Philly, so chill. . .
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Yes, online at http://channelsurfing.net/
or http://www.tvpc.com/ChannelList.php
Fortunata on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Speaking of Nostradamus, Obama’s Middle East adviser is Ray “Mabus.”
abinitioadinfinitum on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
It’s not over if McCain wins Ohio and Florida
ricardoz on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
This is all based on EXIT POLLS?? Not real votes?? I thought the exit polls were crap? WTF is going on? Even FOX is playing this game? Does anyone count actual VOTES anymore???
worlok on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
hopefully the buyers remorse will be like we’ve never seen before
jp on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Let’s now hope for a non-Filibuster-proof Senate.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Why do they need to worry about it? Didn’t you hear the girl telling us all that when the Obamessiah wins, they won’t have to worry about putting gas in their cars, or their mortgages…?
I fear we really are the minority. The stupid people have overtaken us.
pannw on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
oy it’s about over……
Noneya on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Everytime I look at FL, that margin for The One gets smaller and smaller…
Wineaholic on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Why didn’t the McCain can have palin in PA 24 hrs a day the past week? Not saying it’s lost – but if it is, that’s why.
kcewa on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
ATLANTA IS THE SOUTHERN BLACK MECCA….
HOW DID THAAAAAAAAT HAPPEN?
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
I went and voted and the only people outside of the polling place were volunteers from Gene Yaw for State Senate! Yeah, ummm, exit polls mean jack.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
AHAHAHAHA
+1
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
count the votes, don’t beleive the hype
hillary cougars ohio and penn
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
And now they are just continuously bashing Bush on NBC’s national election coverage team.
Where’s that remote? CLICK.
LegendHasIt on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
It keeps him alive, but he has to hold every Bush ‘04 state except for Iowa and New Mexico. That’s a very slim margin of error.
Doughboy on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
On Fox’s interactive map it only shows that PA has less than 1% reporting.
How in the FRACK can they call it for BHO?
This is insanity.
tru2tx on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
People surrendering at 8:40 PM, East Coast Time?
The Bogus Brigade singing La Traviata.
Wait for the Western fat ladies…
…schmucks.
profitsbeard on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
I’m listening to the local polits here in NC on the radio and they haven’t called the Dole race yet.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
basically McCain needs all the Bush states and can only shed one of those, preferably an Iowa or New Mexico while holding CO and NV…not optmistic here
jp on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Macain has Georgia and Kansas. Yes I agree it is the returns not the opinions…
ScottieOSU2000 on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Murray rules! I loved his Nick the lounge singer act best. Nothing says sexy on a guy like lime green sequined polyester.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Well, I hate to say it, but this was destiny awaiting. The right abused thier power for 6 years under Bush with no oversight, and people are upset about it.
Myself being a Republican had a hard time voting along party lines this time around.
damian1967 on November 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM
CNN.com is now showing McCain ahead 50-49 in popular vote.
Mark1971 on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
just heard on fox….they are calling Pa based on what the obama campaign is saying
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Pa has become NY/NJ jr…..and in that craptastic tradition of ruining their state and then moving to another state and voting for the same horrible things that forced them to move….NY/NJ liberals are determined to destroy PA now….where in the name of all thats holy do i move???….i cant stay in PA much longer.
alecj on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Megyn Kelly said Hillary backers went big for Obama – according to the exit polls. Maybe they lied… and are getting the last laugh on The One.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
I am DONE with this sh*t. Listening to Marilyn Manson, drinking my beer…waiting for the failure of promises never meant to be kept! Eff…………..
Karen_VA on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Thank you.
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Saxby wins
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Typically in PA, the cities and in close burbs results come in first; the rural parts of the state later. It always looks tough early. Not surprised it was called early, that is what the media do. Look for PA to tighten as real votes are counted.
james23 on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Saxby holds on!
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Sen. Saxby Chambless (R-GA) wins re-election.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
I heard it’s already happening. Military enlistment has been down in the past couple of months. Obama would rather preen than flex military muscle.
BuckeyeSam on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
What gives is that they understand the psychology of people with remote controls in their hands. They have to compete with every other channel vying for your attention.
They know what sells, and they also know that after tonight, their ratings will go down by 50%.
Saltysam on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
This is so weird, if you look at ABC they have the 2 candidates at 50% each in popular vote, but they have Obama ahead on electoral votes, based in large part on PA, where they have no actual votes. But they do have Obama ahead 65 to 35. I just don’t believe that.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Obama is kicking McCains booty.
Obama 102
McCain 34
Take that neo cons!
Uncle_Aina on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Exit polls, people. The votes aren’t counted yet.
Vic on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Saxby Chambliss projected winner – no super majority for Libs?
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Yay. Saxby Chambliss won…Best name evah…..
Babino on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
OH FOR PETE’S SAKE!
Gina on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Awesome.
phronesis on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
This is my last absentee for PA. Next voting cycle I’ll be and NC resident. Tired of throwing my vote away.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Carter beat Ford, too. That worked out so well for the Democrats, didn’t it?
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
What I dont understand….are these guys calling actually votes or exit poll votes??
journeyscarab on November 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
let them party in chicago
when the VOTES are counted not PROJECTED
they will be whining
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Well, at least my home state of Georgia did their part.
common sensineer on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
PA called this early i still dont get. i think all this calling extra early is just a competition of networks.
venicesurfer on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Aren’t you guys worried that they haven’t called Virginia?
terryannonline on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
when is the early voting figures going to come in. NC had 2+million people vote and so far returns are showing 1.5m
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Shhh! You’re interfering with Overlord Soros’ voter suppression efforts.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
So, if Obama does win PA and that puts him over the edge, do all the clowns in Philly who voted early and often realize that once the coal industry goes bankrupt, they might stop getting handouts?
reaganaut on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
ONLY ONE MORE SENATE SEAT AND WE HAVE A LOCK!!!
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
They have to win every one of the remaining six seats to have a filibuster-proof majority. One more GOP victory and there’s a filibuster.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
It doesn’t effing matter. WE ARE SCREWED. I even tried praying. Didn’t work…
Karen_VA on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Or Indiana.
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Maybe open registration yesterday wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Don’t you have some friends you’d rather spend the election with? No?
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 8:44 PM
I hope they all enjoy eating cat food in PA!
TruthShallSetYouFree on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Let’s wait until the capitalist vote comes in instead of listening to the socialist media.
sherry on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
You also will be sorry, count on it.
abinitioadinfinitum on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Republicans think Pennsylvania is still stuck in the 50’s or something. In reality, it is almost as liberal as New York thanks to the cities.
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Once again, we’ll have the bizarre electoral map of a country that is solid red by district, almost solid red by county, with big blue urban/ghetto blue spots, and blue states.
Jaibones on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I expected VA to be a loss. What I’m counting on at this point is shitty exit polls in PA skewing the #s.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
lol, I was wondering when they’d show up. Stay classy and remember that even Nancy Peloski said you guys would be more bipartisan.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
We were fooked. There has never been such a thing as PUMA’s. It has always been an urban legend. Once a democrat always one. I don’t want to hear about a Clinton ever again. Traitors.
clemycali on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Does nobody remember 2000? Let’s let PA work itself out. . .I’m not concerned yet.
Let’s recall that PA went Kerry in ‘04, and we didn’t have to endure a President Skeletor. It’s still up to Obama to cover 17 EVs, and although I’m willing to write-off IA and maybe CO (MAYBE). . .I’m not falling for NV or NM just yet. Wait ’til Obama swings a state from ‘04, THEN we can have a worry.
johnny alpha on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Excellent. I live in Colorado and just got a phone call for an exit poll.
boomer on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) has lost re-election. Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-FL) will win his re-election.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
ONE MORE SENATE SEAT AND REAL PUMA VOTES COUNTED IN PENN>>>>and I will be a HAPPY , HAPPY woman.
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Dude. If NC goes to Obama I’m moving south.
Guardian on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Doesn’t matter. Democrats have already said they’d use the nuclear option whenever necessary.
lorien1973 on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
FLA Obama 51-48 41 per cent in
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
CNN calls PA for Obama. If it goes McCain, there’s going to be a lot of egg to pass around.
Wineaholic on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
I think it’s hilarous. I spend two weeks training these people and they fall to pieces in 20 minutes.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
WTF’s up in N.C.???
Tony737 on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
WHERE ARE ALL THE PROTESTS OF DISENFRANCHISEMENT that usually have stacked up by now…HHHMMmm?????
seejanemom on November 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
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