Round two: PA, FL, MO; Update: NBC calls Pennsylvania for Obama; Update: Fox too
posted at 8:00 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No calls yet in round one as I write this. Florida and Missouri won’t be called until late, either, but if The One’s exit poll margin in Pennsylvania really is 15 points, there’s at least a chance it could go early and puncture Maverick’s balloon.
New general election updates will appear in this thread, but I’ll update the last one with results from those states as they come in.
Update: Bright and early as the clock strikes eight, NBC calls Pennsylvania for The One. Start drinking.
Update: Here’s my map from the predictions thread the other day. To get to a McCain victory, you had to flip 50 electoral votes from blue to red. Try doing it without Pennsylvania.
Update: Steve Kornacki does the math. Barring any very surprising upsets, Obama’s already banked 259 EVs. All he needs is one red state from 2004 worth 11 EVs to turn blue and he’s pretty much set.
Update: ABC also says Obama takes Pennsylvania. And, to add insult to injury, New Hampshire.
Update: Exit poll data from Florida per Marc Ambinder has Obama, amazingly, winning Hispanics by 10 points.
Update: Fox News says Obama wins Pennsylvania, too. And according to the CNN map, with 36 percent reporting, he leads in Florida by more than 200,000 votes.
Update: A McCain aide acknowledges to Ambinder that they need a miracle.
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I also love how AP keeps using pictures of PALIN to front his Eeyore diaries.
Seriously. This PUMA is sick of these “yellow” so-called Conservatives. How subtle of you, AP, to link your pessimism with Sarah.
Mac will win. And Democrats — young gay Democrats such as myself — have been doing more for the Republican ticket than “Conservative” bloggers such as yourself.
I just HAD to point out the inappropriate use of the Palin images. Jesus.
lansing quaker on November 4, 2008 at 8:13 PM
It was never realistic to think that McCain would win Pennsylvania. That state hasn’t voted for a Republican presidential candidate in 20 years, and this year will be no different.
paul006 on November 4, 2008 at 8:13 PM
New Hampshire lost! Can we stop caring about their primary winners now?
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Hey guess what Republican: Shut up…
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Uh…all those 81 are from the Northeast. What a surprise. Have faith. Pray hard.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Fox is not hopeful for McCain, at all and this is Bill Krystal. I think it’s over guys.
shoregulls on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
I love your optimism, but
facts areDrive-By spin is getting in the way.Fixed it Jimbo
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
I really DO NOT like Kristoll..even tho he was a Palin supporter from the get-go..he is soooooo pessimistic!
labwrs on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
We live in a nation of idgits if Obama is elected. Plain and simple. Might as well move to France.
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
F U you bassmouthed, turncoat, yellow-bellied, sack of dog sh*t. I hate Bill Kristol. I wish he would just STFU!
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Don’t blacks usually vote 90% Democratic anyway?
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Geez. Obama is up 10 points in TEXAS.
SoulGlo on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Geez, some of you guys have nerves of pure jelly
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
WFNC here in Fayetteville hasn’t called it for Hagen against Dole yet.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Bill Kristol needs to STFU. GAH.
haikusrock on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
That would make it the Nothing But Crapweasel Network. Good Call!
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Manly,
Tara Sue is bitin’ her nails…
kareyk on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
touche’
jimbodeano67 on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
I wonder if CanadianGuy is realizing that as more votes get counted in Florida, that Obama’s lead is shrinking fast?
MobileVideoEngineer on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
McCain’s now up in Indiana. Let’s be patient.
Bob L on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Don’t sweat it. They are counting Houston and Austin probably.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
PA is not real America I guess.
e-pirate on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
I’m still hoping this guy is right:
Myth_Happens on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
anyone know how the Murtha race is going?
NeverLiberal on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MY STATE
?????????????????????????????????
Good gosh. NC sucks right now. I was kind of “over” Dole, but, not really enough to vote her out! scary, I have to say, for a North Carolinian.
Mommypundit on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Texas going for the ZERO?????
I think I might faint.
tru2tx on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
They called Maryland for Obama, uh yestserday.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
That’s because we can see what’s happening.
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Reminds me of debate night…slow slow, gonna crash Ed.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Is there a great Conservative talk radio host still on? Links? O need something to listen to that will relax me, i am getting worried…
Mark Garnett on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
The only “fact” here is that NBC said [insert thing].
Lehosh on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Kristol has always been a RINO.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM
You shut up Magoo — I’m expressing an opinion based on what the hell is happening out there… but yeah, if fantasy land makes you feel better, have at it.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM
LOL!! “bassmouthed” makes me laugh every time…
Fortunata on November 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Let’s all focus on this: Megyn Kelly is smart and gorgeous.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM
If we can’t knock off a single Democrat incumbent, we might as well just let the socialists takes over already.
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
They are probably counting Harris County. They like their gov’t cheese there…..Texas goes republican. Don’t worry.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
No votes counted yet in Oa and they call it for obama? makes no sense
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
“Republican” is being realistic. Some of you are sounding reality-challenged Democrats in 2000 and 2004.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
You see what the Drive-Bys are TELLING you.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Steady.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I can’t take this. I’m going to play some WoW. I do not want to have a major freak out like I did in 2006. God, I’m scared.
Ceroth on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Those results are from Houston and Dallas. But it’s all 0% precincts reporting.
Phoenician on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
How many of the networks called and then recalled Florida in the last two elections. They KNOW how important PA is. Sit tight. The recall may come in the next ten minutes or so. The networks are getting scared considering this was supposed to be a blowout.
sherry on November 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Is the RNC paying you to keep the sunshine pumping going? Open your eyes moron.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Yeah cause it is turning out to be a bloodbath out there. And not for our side either. You better have a whiskey or something to wake you up.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Don’t be silly. Long night ahead, guys….
Fortunata on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 PM
I can do that.
jimbodeano67 on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Fiesty little mix. I like that.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 PM
He needs to be stuffed and mounted on my wall. How you doing this evening, my English friend?
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:19 PM
I’m looking at how the American people are voting.
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9493/tohellwithit2hy6.jpg
toliver on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Minx
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Shut up means if you want to whine and wring your hands, go somewhere else so you can root for the other side. Try dKos. They’ll love you over there.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Exactly.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Hold my hand.
Anyone?
Apologetic California on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Just go to this link and choose any talk host in the right column (you have to scroll down). You can listen to any of them that has a “listen” button shown by the station. You can listen to Levin again if you want to.
http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-radio-shows.php
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
PA is not real America I guess.
e-pirate on November 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
I still have faith in my bitter clinger neighbors.
Cold Winters
Coal Industry
Hopey Changey
All together now kids: “One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn’t belong…”
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Please, don’t sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel!
:-)
tru2tx on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Thanks Lansing – you put a little steel in my spine. I just cannot believe the USA would be this stupid.
HawaiiLwyr on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Give me a break. It’s at a ZERO percent report!
At LEAST wait until 33% reporting, if not 50%. Gosh. You really think the Obama MSM is going to start acting like Obama is vulnerable now after a year of “inevitability!!1!1!”?
Jeez.
lansing quaker on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I believe NBC is high. Pennslyvania doesn’t have any of the precincts reporting in yet.
I guess they want to keep propagandizing to the very end…
RedbonePro on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Too many Eeyores…not enough Manlys
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Thank you — I can’t believe the way people are acting in here — “Oh yeh, everything is completely fine”. It isn’t. And we are seeing that right now.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Republican:
I am not saying it looks good, but there is only 4 points seperating these men and the vast majority of the votes have not been counted.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Got it. I still believe. Good always overcomes Evil.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Calm down. All is well. Manly Rash is here. McCain will win.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM
I don’t think I’m going to get through this without your certain optimism
Willie on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
This just might not be our night.
Maybe we had better start practicing, “President Obama.”
But I’m not throwing in the towel until at least one of Florida, Virgina, Indiana, North Carolina, or Ohio is lost.
And that hasn’t happened yet.
Besides, let’s see some real votes in Pennsylvania.
JudetheFossil on November 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Texan here – this is a BIG state…but it has its Dem areas, such as Austin and Houston.
Could we try goin’ civil around here, please?
Thank you to all the PUMA’s out here – I know ya’ll worked very, very hard, and I am still hopeful this will show up when ACTUAL results come in!
Cindy of TX on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Dude, this election was over one month ago.
We need to take back congress in 2010.
toliver on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
So is NBC basing their call on the ever-accurate exit polling? Kinda like CNN called Florida for Gore?
Patrick S on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
You are not alone.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
We’re screwed
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
If Obama wins, I will open up an underground railroad for conservatives to come to Canada. Choo-Choooo!
keep the change on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
What are you going to say when we actually lose?
phronesis on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Blah blah blah…then go to bed and SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
IS any online interactive map any good? The all seem to bounce back and forth about the precincts reported.
OBQuiet on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Patience. I don’t see how they’re calling some of these races with only 3 or 4 percent of the vote tallied. I’m sure they have some good reasons, but it’s the vote that counts, not the projections.
I’m for waiting to see how it turns out.
Tennman on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Fox is not hopeful for McCain, at all and this is Bill Krystal. I think it’s over guys.
Bill Kristol was saying Bush had lost at this point in the evening in ‘04.
clearbluesky on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Hey now . . . let’s not turn on each other . . .
Fox is showing the “coronation” in Chicago (groan) I gotta go work there tomorrow–maybe they’ll all be too drunk and the traffic won’t be so heavy.
FOCUS people . . . what’s up with OH?
rebuzz on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Look at all the concern trolls coming out. If NBC can call PA for the Zero, with NO votes counted, then I call California for McCain. Makes just as much sense.
califcon on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Urban before rural. First numbers should be worse. Game isn’t over. Doesn’t look good, but not over yet.
Spirit of 1776 on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
You are hyperventilating. Put a plastic bag over your head until you stop breathing. That should take care of the problem.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Ah, ok, so we are only allowed to have an opinion or to express ourselves if it mirrors our deepest hopes and dreams about this election? Give me a break.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
You’re sounding like those dKos denialists in 2000, 2002, and 2004.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Good news, really heavy turnout a bad sign for Barry. Heavy is good; too heavy is bad. Instant polls are for the weak spirited. Conservatives on FIRE!
anti-boomer on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
i dont get how PA can be called for obama so early on. with 0% of votes in. i just dont get it.
venicesurfer on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Pa still in the air. NBC used exit polls to call it
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Hold on – Michael Barone is saying there is NO DATA from PA.
HawaiiLwyr on November 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Mac still looks good in VA. Of course I am not sure if NoVa has been counted yet.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I never said it’s over, but Florida does not look good period.
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Damn! There are not even any returns from PA. IT IS all exit polling data!
AnthonyK on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Sitting here, watching Fox muted. Dog sleeping next to me, (phew..he needs a bath). Looks like a long night, I think.
I’ll hold your hand.
Fortunata on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I refuse to be ruled by a bunch of hysterical Kossacks. God, is this our wake up call?
The Fox map is cool. So is google’s, but I like Fox’s better. At least there is some consolation.
eaglesdontflock on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
They’re calling PA on exit polls. EXIT POLLS.
Slublog on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
NBC is in the tank with calling PA for Barry. Fox news is saying they have no precincts reporting from that state. NBC is basing their call on exit polls. Sheesh.
long_cat on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Barone on FOX saying that no one has any actual data on PA yet. But the exit polls are looking bloody for McCain…
Wineaholic on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
This is getting ridiculous. We won’t know crap until at least 10, shut up.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Are we just supposed to ignore EVERYTHING they say? I mean, I really don’t know you guys so I don’t know who to believe but I hope it’s at least a little close.
If NBC called it based on exit polls, doesn’t everyone agree that’s not so reliable?
But, don’t they just plain have more people?
Moxie on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM
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