Round two: PA, FL, MO; Update: NBC calls Pennsylvania for Obama; Update: Fox too
posted at 8:00 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No calls yet in round one as I write this. Florida and Missouri won’t be called until late, either, but if The One’s exit poll margin in Pennsylvania really is 15 points, there’s at least a chance it could go early and puncture Maverick’s balloon.
New general election updates will appear in this thread, but I’ll update the last one with results from those states as they come in.
Update: Bright and early as the clock strikes eight, NBC calls Pennsylvania for The One. Start drinking.
Update: Here’s my map from the predictions thread the other day. To get to a McCain victory, you had to flip 50 electoral votes from blue to red. Try doing it without Pennsylvania.
Update: Steve Kornacki does the math. Barring any very surprising upsets, Obama’s already banked 259 EVs. All he needs is one red state from 2004 worth 11 EVs to turn blue and he’s pretty much set.
Update: ABC also says Obama takes Pennsylvania. And, to add insult to injury, New Hampshire.
Update: Exit poll data from Florida per Marc Ambinder has Obama, amazingly, winning Hispanics by 10 points.
Update: Fox News says Obama wins Pennsylvania, too. And according to the CNN map, with 36 percent reporting, he leads in Florida by more than 200,000 votes.
Update: A McCain aide acknowledges to Ambinder that they need a miracle.
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We are with you on the rampart also Manly – though silently
Bernadette on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
OH just called for Obama.
haikusrock on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Manly,
This thread is dying down. Thread 3 needs your help.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
I remember the days of Carter too. And not fondly. And that got us Reagan. If Ford had won in 1976, would there have been a Reagan win in 1980? Maybe not. So if we lose the W.H. tonight, then it’s back to basics, focusing on the local races, the state level, and looking ahead to the mid-terms and eventually 2012.
Obama and his pals in Congress have a big mess on their hands. He’s said a lot of things, about Iraq, about Iran, about the economy, health care, etc., that he can’t deliver. And some bad thing will happen somewhere and whatever he’s got planned will go out the window anyway so it’s not going to matter. Just ask George W. Bush.
But it’s not over yet…is it?
Bennett on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
2010 is the year, either we are finished for good or we rebound
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Ohio, nooooooooooo! I hate Shep even more. I hope his plastic surgery scars implode.
Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
And there goes Ohio.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Ohio all gone.
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
I’m fixin’ to act on Atlas Shrugged right now. They can’t tax what they can’t touch, if you know what I mean and I think you might.
This election may be over but the American spirit is not.
Gilda on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
If Obama wins, I’m done with the myth of the ’silent majority’. If it can’t defeat obama, then it doesn’t exist.
bilups on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
I’m here!
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
On the AOL EV map they just turned Fl from black to white. I guess they reopened the polls?
kahall on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Talk to me in four years, asswipe. Tell me what you think of Obama then. Until then, FUCK OFF.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Re Catholics in PA: Not trying to start a war, but let’s face it: Half of Roman Catholics are RC because they were born into it, not because they chose it. Half are Christmas/Easter types with little knowledge of scripture, who view most doctrines of the church as quaint antiquities. That’s not a slam on Catholics (Episcopalians, and increasingly, Methodists and Lutherans) are as bad or worse. Roman Catholics voting for baby-killers is nothing new (and neither is Methodists voting for baby-killers, Episcopalians, etc.).
greggriffith on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Liars. This will change. They are going to pull BHO over the line with lies before the voting is in, And then theres ACORN
katy on November 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Well FOX just buried our body in Ohio.
At 620 PST- unfreaking believable, what a nightmare
jjshaka on November 4, 2008 at 9:21 PM
I hate to say it but unless Brit is lying to us. It’s over.
I want to vomit.
Lance Murdock on November 4, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Don’t believe it in PA they based it all on Philly, they just started county Coal Country http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?ElectionID=28
NorDak75 on November 4, 2008 at 9:21 PM
This election is not over until all the votes are counted. It’s a reporting repeat from 2004.
Entelechy on November 4, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Manly,
I am with you brother! I will not give up ever! It is always darkest before the dawn. Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead….I count it an honor and privledge to stand with you shoulder to shoulder against the horde of useful idiots
CreationistConservativeWarrior on November 4, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Holy Christmas, this blog goes fast! Lost where I was…sorry. Thanks again to those who care about me :)
There is one light in this mess we are in…the enjoyment of watching the NObama administration (and associated Congress, it seems) crash and BURN. It will be fun to sit and say, “I told you so”.
You see, I have to give up now. Still DONE with this …. there is no hope left. It’s better this way (read: denial)…..
To those who soldier on, good on ya…
Cheers to those who drink.
Karen_VA on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Will the Republican party learn from this?
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
On to thread three…
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
OK, so I was looking at the various county results in the quickly-called PA, and saw Dauphin County as 95% Obama, 4% McCain with 884 votes in. Dauphin County went for Bush 65,000 to 55,000 in 2004. Where do you get such a skewed sampling without some ballot box stuffing?
They just refreshed it and it’s now 78-22 with 5400 votes in. Maybe a few heavy union precincts coming in early? Still seems high to me.
hbrooks on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Terrye, I was but a newborn when Watergate was going on.
Have you seen what’s going on in the other states? West Virginia! Coal Country, for cryin’ out loud! They’re going for The Man Who Will Ruin Their Coal Industry!
Not to mention this: what do you think happens when the meme of Republicans being “racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, Nazis,” etc. repeated over and over by those with influence in our society (from college professors to the entertainment and news media), don’t you think that meme has sunk in beyond the point of no return? If the GOP is to rid itself of it, something radical MUST be done. Nothing short of burning it to the ground and raising the Phoenix will do.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Folks this is not over!
katy on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Seriously, I think the MSM and Fox are experiencing an alternate reality.
Kamikaze on November 4, 2008 at 9:22 PM
I’m starting to think water boarding would be less painful. It’s all so depressing. I too have Atlas Shrugged and The Forgotten Man. I haven’t read either one yet, but I’ll be placing them on the fast track. I just bought Democracy in America by Tocqueville. In the immortal words of Winston Churchill- never, never, never quit.
alwaysright43 on November 4, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Whew. I was more stressed out in 04.
Our boys sacrificed in Iraq and Kerry would have thrown it all away; it would have been for nothing.
Iraq has been won and there’s no turning back. The sacrifices at least counted for something.
Not even Barry can ruin it.
mylegsareswollen on November 4, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I can’t drink. I’m 25 weeks pregnant. Sorry. But cheers to you!
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:23 PM
AHHHH Ohio for Obama …god help us!!!!!
silentMajority on November 4, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Seven years after 9/11 and we are about to elect Barack Hussein Obama. Hope all the dolts that voted for this piece of *hi* are happy. Screw all of them.
jewells45 on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
MSNBC is scum, they are calling Ohio for Obama, with 20% of the vote. WTF?
gxpgxp on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
It was tough to keep track with the open registration, but aren’t you a troll?
Even if you are, welcome. And try to be gracious if McCain doesn’t make a comeback, please. Gloat with your friends on a lefty site.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Being a Christian does not stop you from being a Patriot. Even if The Community Organizer wins. We can still stand with ManlyRash on the Rampart. I will still keep my Moral Compass and my love for the ideals previous generations have fought and died for. I AM AN AMERICAN.
E PLURIBUS UNUM
Hey Manly, how’s the view?
kingsjester on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
if they don’t… death to the party… just as well… we need real conservatism… not something centrist and calling it republican
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
I hold out the strongest hope that you’re right and I’m wrong.
Gilda on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Hi everybody! How you all doin’? I just got in and haven’t been able to read all the comments but it looks like a funeral around here! I’m going have some Wild Turkey and wait a bit before I slit my wrists.
Vince on November 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
I used to live in New Mexico. I moved out before all the sand and dirt clogged my brain.
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Trust me on this one. They will deserve everything bad that’s coming to them. All of it, and not a penny less.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM
CNN is going to call Ohio for The One..Goodnight folks. That’s a wrap.
tdavisjr on November 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Hornet Sting
You are correct, New Mexico now sucks. I’m in Lincoln County and we are reliable conservatives but most counties in the state now just suck.
A pox on all their adobe houses.
Lincoln Cadillac on November 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM
CORRECTION: Only 13% of the vote in.
gxpgxp on November 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Look at Ohio also http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enrpublic/f?p=130:15:0
NorDak75 on November 4, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Will you people stop with the “it’s over” crap. Please.
Oink on November 4, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Well, at least we’ll know where all the stupid people live.
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:27 PM
The question is will the Democrats learn from this. A good healthy dose of liberal policy for the next four years ought to break them out of it. This is going to be Jimmy Carter on steroids. Look out for 10% unemployment within 2 years.
crosspatch on November 4, 2008 at 9:27 PM
how are they calling these states when
1)there is massive fraud
2)there is only 20 or less % reporting?
why are they doing this?
Mommypundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM
If Ohio and Pennsylvania are gone, not much ‘table’ left to run.
It’s becoming a depressing evening.
MrLynn on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Fozzy, Manly, you’ve got it right. Just keep your investments invested, so you don’t have to sweat cap gains. 4 years from now, we can support a slate of true conservatives and start cleaning this mess up.
hawksruleva on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Well, now it’s over.
phronesis on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Listen to me. We all knew that nothing short of a miracle would save McCain. We knew he couldn’t pull it off. But I took my stand with my vote, nonetheless, because someone has to make a stand, somewhere.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Fox began their coverage at 7:00 telling us to take the exit polls with grain of salt. Now WTF?
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Murtha is in the lead in PA. 57 to 43
NeverLiberal on November 4, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I’m waiting for that magical 270 before saying anything.
I’ve been registered for a while. Where is Hawkdriver?
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:32 PM
You got it… we fight… we never concede… before all else you never abandon conservatism… conservatism is always the way to win… even BO ran on conservatism fiscally… even though he’s a straight liar…
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Marx, Ayers, Dohrn, Mao, Chavez – Change
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I have been a political junkie since 2001. Now, I plan on living in ignorant bliss and just hope it doesn’t hurt too much. God, I don’t believe this happened. I’m just done. Emotionally, I’m exhausted.
jewells45 on November 4, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Took my stand in VA my friend. Thanks for you optimism ;)
Karen_VA on November 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM
they’ll trigger another depression
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Welcom to my world.
Karen_VA on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Marx, Ayers, Dohrn, Mao, Chavez, Obama – Change
fixed it myself
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I guess the Voter ID models showing Dems ahead by 10 points were accurate.
worst election for repubs since Watergate……and much of it is based on MSM/DNC lies about Iraq/Katrina/Plame
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I’m telling you all to quit spouting off the obvious! I’m ready to say “well no $hit” to you all. Just watch for a while or go to bed.
Oink on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
hawkdrivers in thread 3.
You’re an Obama supporter, right?
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
So am I. And even physically. It’s a bit hard to handle anxiety with a pregnant belly and a recent move. But this has taken the cake.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
No, no. Get some rest, and be right to fight again. Whatever GOP or conservative Dems are in office have to hear from us, at every level, as Obama and the libs in Congress try to push their agenda through. This is actually when the real fight begins.
There’s something to be said for being the party out of power. It can actually be kind of fun.
Bennett on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
I am indeed.
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
And that’s why I will never trust the media, ever again!
They claim to “comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable” when, in fact, THEY are the comfortable now!
A pox on all of them!
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Ok. Congrats to your guy is he holds on, just try to be gracious. We’re taking a beating.
If you want to gloat, do it on a lefty site please.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I’ll say again, quit watching t v and have some fun with Ed’s map. You can click through states and mouse over counties to see what’s going on. Scroll down to see some of the other state races. I am watching MN & PA right now.
Then when Megyn comes back on (she’s getting way too little air time) watch tv again.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
It took a Carter to bring us a Reagan and it will apparently take an Obama to give us a Palin.
IF Obama wins he will be the most despised President in history. The whackos who voted him in will turn on him rather quickly when he fails to deliver. They’re not sane to begin with so I doubt seriously whether they have will have the patience or the reasoning for Obama’s overly promised miracles. Miracles that will be impossible for him to deliver. Look at the democrat Congress. How’s that working out?
Plus when the economy tanks, and it will, all blame will be on him. He and he alone will bear a heavy heavy load and with no experience to back him up he will fail miserably.
On a side note the next liberal city that gets hit during an Obama administration gets ZERO sympathy from me. You asked for it. You deserve it.
Guardian on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I am indeed. by mycowardice
Where’s my $2000 check. I want it now, certified if you don’t mind.
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
yep. pretty much with you.
But, I still say, what’s the deal with the insane fraud????? Are we just going to take it? Brunner has 200,000 faulty registrations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is just ONE state, too.
OMG. Stop panicking, everyone.
Mommypundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I am trying to be a good representative of Obama and the message of hope and change he had.
I really hope we get to achieve great things in the next four years.
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:41
For instance?
kareyk on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Your tax cut? They are sending all the tax cuts for registered republicans to wealthy people and you will get it through trickle down economics.
Rumor has it that it will be 4k using that method.
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Much apprecited. It would be in very poor taste for any of us to go gloat at kos if things were going the other way.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Stop the craziness because PA and OH are still too close
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?ElectionID=28
http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enrpublic/f?p=130:10:0
NorDak75 on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Hope and change my ass. Vladimir Lenin offered hope and change, how’d that work out?
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
You know, I was thinking of this today. McCain can handle a loss. At his age, he has accumulated much wisdom and grade to handle things like loss and rejection. He can take it and move on with his life, and be OK. He will, in the end, have no regrets about how he has lived. Again, he will be OK after tonight.
Not so with Obama. He has never had to handle a major rejection from anyone. His inner self is filled with a vindictiveness that can scare anyone. Someone like him will never be able to handle a major defeat like this. And he would have blamed it on “the white man” for the rest of his life. That would have been a sorry sight.
But things are what they are. We will have to live with his pettiness and vindictiveness for a while. And those who voted for him will see, too late, what we had warned against.
newton on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
This is a fucking joke, right?
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Indeed because we are all Americans facing the same core sets of problem.
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble but your boy may have set unity in this country back a few decades.
Guardian on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Interesting that you are already talking about that message in the past tense.
Seriously, if your guy won, congratulations. But other than that, be prepared for some of us to disagree with you about what “great things” need to be accomplished. And to fight your guy every step of the way. I’m sure he’d expect nothing less.
Bennett on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Which part?
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Hey you, Mycowardice, I still don’t have my $2000 check. Where is it? Share the wealth, your wealth.
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
He’s being really gracious, let him hang around for a bit.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I don’t believe this Ohio crap.
long_cat on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Closer look – VA with 70% is tied at 50% of the vote each, but McCain leads by around 7,000 votes.
I’m holding out hope that the birthplace of Presidents hasn’t fallen so far as to elect Obama.
So, will Ayers be Sec. of Education, or Ambassador to Venezuela?
hawksruleva on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I think the biggest difference is the how and not the what.
With some exceptions.
Even on a hot issue like abortion there is a common ground. Liberals and Conservatives don’t like them and what to reduce the instances of it happening. Obviously there are disagreement on the actual procedure but the goal is similar (reduce the rate of occurence to 0).
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I leave for 45 minutes and Ohio goes Obama???? WTF!!!
HawaiiLwyr on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
The part where I don’t have my money! Pay up, asswipe. Spread that wealth.
Seriously! You wanna vote for it, you better back it up, mycowardice.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Guys, if mycowardice starts acting like a dick then you can rail against him. Until then, let him hang around. He’s being cool right now, you guys do the same.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
You all forget one thing when you tell me to keep fighting. The media. The farking media elected Obama. How do we fight that? Especially when they bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Kiss Rush and Levin goodbye. Sorry, but I am just beyond being consoled. I’m fucking pissed!
jewells45 on November 4, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Good Lord, Florida doesn’t look so good…
RedbonePro on November 4, 2008 at 9:49 PM
No, he can kiss my ass. He wants to fuck up the country. I’m sick of being fucking gracious. Are you watching the video of these douchebags in Chicago? Have you been paying attention as they have bought this entire election? No, I’m sorry. Fuck him. Fuck all of the Obama worshipers. You’ll be saying the same thing once the white flags start waving in Iraq and the bombs start dropping over Tel Aviv.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
When the very future of my country is at stake, I cannot accept being a gracious loser; that’s for suckers.
Over and out.
Pelayo on November 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Riddle Me This!!!!
Everybody know most TV channels, printed media, and hollywood is for OB. The question is “Why?” They will be the target of OB’s tax programs.
What is the common denominator?
tek_support on November 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
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