Round three: CO, NM; Update: Fox calls Ohio for Obama; Update: CNN calls Iowa for Obama; Update: Fox calls Virginia for Obama; Update: Denver Post calls Colorado for Obama; Update: NBC calls the election for Obama
posted at 9:06 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
At this point I’d be shocked if either of them mattered, but the polls have closed so here’s a new thread for results.
As I’m writing that, CNN calls Minnesota and Michigan for The One.
Update: Turns out my prediction was too conservative: I had Ohio going for McCain. Fox calls it for The One. And with that, the hour of reckoning is at hand.
Update: I said in this post over the weekend that under no circumstances could Maverick lose more than one among Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia. Unless the network projections are drastically wrong, he’s already lost two. According to MSNBC, with both PA and OH in the ledger, Obama has 195 EVs with 55 still to come from California. Florida would put him over the top.
Update: Ohio’s the first red state from 2004 to flip, incidentally, and the only one Obama needs thanks to its high EV number. He can win the election now simply by holding Kerry’s states.
Update: The nets will be appropriately cautious about calling Florida early after the fiasco eight years ago but Obama’s leading steadily by 150,000-200,000 votes with 60 percent reporting and the bellwether counties don’t look good. If that flips, we’re approaching landslide territory.
Update: Obama wins New Mexico, unsurprisingly.
Update: The polls are closed now in Nevada and Montana too, but neither will matter. CNN calls Iowa for The One.
Update: With 84 percent reporting, Obama’s now ahead in Virginia by 13,000 votes.
Update: With 91 percent reporting and a lead of more than 50,000 votes, Fox hands Virginia to The One. That gives him 220 EVs, according to my tally. California will put him over the top.
Update: More blood on the floor: The Denver Post says Colorado belongs to The One. We should have a call on California from the networks within the next five minutes, and that should wrap things up.
Update: And there’s California, and there’s the election.
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Whether you like it or not he will be your president. Further, it is a little pathetic to hope for bad things to happen to the country so you can say he was a bad pick, don’t you think?
Bradky on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Not for long. My guess is the count will drop here for awhile.
BacaDog on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Regardless of what happens – 2010 is the rebirth of the conservatives and the GOP. We need to make what happened with the Contract With America look like child’s play.
gophergirl on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
You are unbelievable. Shut up, you sound like a dumbass.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Commence drinking!!
I am sorry for my stupid fellow Ohioans once again handing the White House back to the bad guys.
Please don’t hold it against all of us. I spent hours and hours making phone calls this year. Took a day off today to do it, in fact.
I was prepared for a Mac loss, but really thought it would be because of losing VA or FL.. Seeing my own state go blue… ughh.. I think I’ll drink for a few days. If VA and FL stay red and its because of Ohio… I’ll REALLY be bummed.
Feed on, trolls.
I think I’ll go gun shopping this weekend. :-)
KeepOhioRed on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
You should be banned for that comment. Fool.
James OK on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Hey speaking of that sort of thing–Any news about prop 8 in California?
petunia on November 4, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Nader’s
Esthier on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
True. There were be a backlash at the media.
terryannonline on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Yo Roger Waters…Ever heard of the term useful idiot?
You’re looking like one.
Marine_Bio on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Yep, you are right about that. It will all be roses from here on out.
Until one of our cities goes up in a mushroom cloud. That will change everything.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Doodleduh = twiddledum = dickbrain
Roger Waters on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Pleae please someone in the RNC hire me ! 15 years I warned you this day would come and I got ignored
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Nope. He will not be my president.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
The media and the public “education” system.
DrStock on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Canadian Guy:
I don’t think that is fair. Reagan had to take a couple of shots at even getting the nomination and when he ran and won, look he was running against.
This is why Republicans lose. They always attack each other. No wonder other people do not have faith in them. Why would they?
So now, all these people, none of whom could have done as well as McCain himself did tonight, will blame McCain. God, what a bunch of ingrates.
Terrye on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
As a Canadian and a clear thinking person, I can only offer my sincere condolences and will never quite understand the ability of the majority of Americans to so readily forget history and to remain willfully ignorant regarding the measure of this Marxist empty suit amidst his many egregious associations.I feel sick to my stomach,I can only imagine how you fine folks must feel.Palin/Jindal 2012!!
spareadime on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
If anyone has connects to the campaign do whatever you can to discourage an early concede. This isn’t over, this is just a media con to push the Obama hoax.
Trust me, I was never a Gore fan, but I am a Democrat and there was nothing more frustrating then seeing dopey Gore give away our votes while whining away. This has to be a clean victory or else. We’re up for 4 years of class warfare and if McCain is really worried about us and healing our nation, then count our fricken votes first.
Obamalama Deprogrammer on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
That makes Bush a great “Homeland Security Chief,” unfortunately it will not save his legacy (unless all hell breaks loose under Obama).
I think places like Taiwan, Georgia and Israel will mark BO’s failures more than any attacks on the homeland.
mankai on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Last summer.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
We don’t have to hope for bad things to happen to this country. If O wins bad things WILL happen-Supreme court picks for one.
Bullhead on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Downright Democratic.
ddrintn on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Megyn flirting with Brit.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Hear hear! Although McCain would have been George W Bush X 5…
In a way, we’ve dodged a bullet.
MedSchoolCatholic on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Take five.
Christien on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
No, but I think Brit asked Chris to go with him to the Senior Prom. I have never seen Brit act so giddy and downright unserious. I know its his last election night but at least he could pretend its important.
Always Right on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
I’ll miss Brit Hume.
KSgop on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
The Foxnews newscenter looks like the most depressing place in America right now.
WisCon on November 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Where do I get my free gas and sign up for my free mortgage? IDIOTS! OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN OVER RUN BY IDIOTS! Not to mention a few dead people voting courtesy of ACORN!
lanesmerge on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
I blame the
republicansMedia for nominating McCainDole – MyCowTony737 on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Actually that is not correct
F15Mech on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Indeed we will. In fact, although I am mightily dismayed at the current state of affairs, I expect it will be fun – and perhaps profitable – to be a righteous dissenter.
Even in the face of adversity, opportunity knocks for those who are able to hear it.
Gilda on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Sadly, many white men voted for Obama. The metrosexual is king. The union men that should be standing up for a man like McCain fell in line for a few dollars in their pockets. People no longer vote for what is best for the country, they only see their little piece of the pie.
tessa on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Do any of you people ever go out and talk to real people? Seriously.
Most Americans do not identify with the liberal or conservative ideology, they don’t think about politics that much, they are busy withtheir lives and other interests.
I live in Western PA, in a heavily blue collar area. These are the “Reagan Democrats,” they are socially moderate to conservative, very patriotic, and have little use for large welfare programs. But they reliably vote Democrat. This is NOT because they consider themselves to be liberals, but because they believe that Democrats will protect them, punish big companies like Exxon, and stop the Republicans from “shipping jobs overseas.”
All you people are missing what is most important. Yes, we grassroots people are upset at the republicans for abandoning conservative principles. But your typical independent or Reagan democrat, in considering who to vote for, does not think “hmm, republicans have spent to much, expanded government to much,” etc. Most think “republicans have given tax breaks to the rich, allowed oil companies to take advantage of us, shipped jobs overseas, caused the financial mess by deregulating Wall Street,” etc.
Yes, we need candidates who adhere to and articulate conservative principles. But we also need to relate them to people’s lives, and explain to them how they will be positively affected, while at the same time demolishing liberal arguments. This is a tough task, especially in today’s media environment, but we need somebody who fully understands economics, and is intelligent enough and quick enough on their feet to get accomplish this. This is the only way the republicans will ever be a significant force again.
Aurelius317 on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
I think we need to flush the toilet…what is that link to ED? I’m thinking Bradky and Roger Waters before I get really mad.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
ErinF: All politics are local. Look at Sarah Palin. Let’s all go home and start there. It might take 20 years, but we must begin tomorrow. Study the enemy and their tactics. Learn from them and improve upon them. Our time will come again…
Let’s Roll
jbtripp on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
The country went for the cool vote over the sensible one – very sad
The fight for conservatism goes on
defendfaithandfamily on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Once again, it is time to begin community organizing for the next election. Isn’t the KKK good at that?
MikeA on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Hawkdriver: You’re in Fayetteville, right?
nosliwelyk on November 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
VA still tied with 80% in, Obama leads by around 5,000 in the raw vote.
hawksruleva on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Hey all, not all votes are in from other states? Right? Isn’t there some hope? Or should I start doing shots of Wild Turkey now?
sheebe on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
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bilups on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I think we have now gotten past, can McCain win… and we as a party and as a movement are now about to spend the next few years asking:
WHAT’S NEXT and HOW DO WE GET BACK TO WINNING IN 2012??
Let the Monday Moring Quarterbacking begin….
Always Right on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Any 10 conservative bloggers and many commenters on this site or Ace’s could run the GOP better than those in charge at the moment.
It’s ridiculous.
lorien1973 on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Oh no, it goes on don’t you see? The media believed it would be good for the country if a black man were elected president. However, it would be bad for the country if the first black president were a failure in office. So for the most noblest of reasons, you will see the media bucking him up at every opportunity. It’ll be for the good of the country.
PackerBronco on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Bad enough yet?
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
You don’t get it – bad things ARE going to happen because he has absolutely no clue what he is doing. He has no clue about the economy, foreign relations, domestic policy, energy policy, healthcare, etc. The man can give a good teleprompter speech and spout talking points from his advisors. This country and this world needs someone who has more depth than the ability to give a speech.
This country is in deep dog crap because we just elected someone that my 8 year old nephew could out-govern.
gophergirl on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
You mean I’ll miss Fox News….The inevitable outcome of an extreme left liberal takeover.
When did my country go stupid?
Marine_Bio on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Definitely better to stay away from the recriminations. We’ve got our hands full enough as it is with Obama and the Democratic Congress!
Beatnik Joe on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Shady Barry will never be my president!
abinitioadinfinitum on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Ha! Biden’s already told us he can’t!
4shoes on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
My only consolation is that when this country really ends up in the toilet, the Dems will have NO ONE to blame but themselves seeing as how they are going to be in charge of everything.
I was very, very optimistic, but at this point I think the writing is on the wall. Unfortunately.
I didn’t have the opportunity to post here much because of closed registration, but I really enjoyed reading everyone here.
haikusrock on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
It is hard to see how we can have a republican president again. In four years they will have let more illegal immigrants (dem voters) pour in and forever change the demographics and make it virtually impossible for a win in 2012. I am sure amnesty will be at the top of their agenda to guarantee 30-50 million new democratic voters. How many non-citizens voted in this election in key battleground states? It is just hard for me to comprehend that ballots were printed in spanish in the UNITED STATES of AMERICA–if you cannot speak English you don’t get to vote. It seems like a no brainer. What a sad, sad, sad, sad day!
Twoconservative on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
+1
funky chicken on November 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Well folks, the best way to stem the onslaught of socialism is to join the NRA. If they ever disarm the citizens, they become subjects and it is OVER.
So, save America and join the NRA. If you don’t have a firearm yet, you still have till January to get one. You are going to need it.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Hey Bradky-What goes around comes around. Dems showed Pres. Bush ZERO respect and insulted him at every turn these past 7 years. I REFUSE to show allegiance to a man who supports INFANTICIDE. I REFUSE to show respect for a man who wants MY tax dollars to go to support abortion on demand. PERIOD.
Babino on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I believe the biggest morons of the night are the voters in PA and OH who, after hearing Obama say he will bankrupt the coal industry, their sole livelihood, responded in horrific outrage by electing him to the Presidency of the United States.
I hope he does bankrupt their industry, and I hope he takes them all to hell.
doodleduh on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Yeah, Roger I like you but you are sounding like a dumbass.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Nope — of course not. He was full of crap all the way along and now he’s f**ked off.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 10:
Dude/Dudette calm yourself. Manly didn’t vote for the entire freakin’ country.
It is not over yet.
If it is, your life is not gone- you will have to fight for 2010 and 2012. But that is up to you.
Fight or flight?
kareyk on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Geez. Guns. Never thought it would come to this but I am afraid for where this country is headed…we’ve been researching guess it’s time to buy.
illustr8r on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
turn out the lights … the party’s over!
Monkei on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
It is what it is guys.
It’s important to remember, and it cannot be said enough in the days to come – when all is said and done nearly half of this country will not have voted for the next President-elect.
dugan on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Interesting video from Pennsylvania. Listen for the CNN reporters response at the end.
clearbluesky on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Franken winning the senate seat is at 99% on intrade. True?
lorien1973 on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
The honeymoon is over tonight. F the Democrats.
rbj on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
+1
What’s Barry “giving” everyone – $500? Well, at least we know the price of democracy.
:_ _ (
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM
When our own party’s president had to basically hide in the White House- well historically bad things happen to his potential successor.
I’m more disgusted at this point about our truly horrible effort with our Congressional candidates.
We get punked by Nancy and Harry- good god who the hell was running things.
jjshaka on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Control the information to the masses ie. MSM public school system and you control the masses.
thomasaur on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Nah. I’m not hoping. I just KNOW.
God forbid a tragedy occur over the next four years (and we all know it will), he can’t make a move without consulting his 300+ advisors. He can’t even make a single solitary vote in the Senate without voting “present” for Cripe’s sakes!
What makes you think he will be an effective president? Gimme a break.
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
BTW, am I the only one shocked at the sheer SIZE of Obama’s win in Penna?
I mean its a freaking BLOWOUT in PA.. .how the heck did that happen??? His % of victory there is almost as big as it is in NY and MASS which is ridiculous.
Always Right on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Good on you for your reasonable outlook and abiding faith in the strength of our democracy. I mean that sincerely.
Bradky on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
This is just such an amazing moment in our nation’s history. I’m almost giddy.
Typhonsentra on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Roger Waters on November 4, 2008 at 10:11 PM
What an effing prick!
kareyk on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Expect a 500-1000 point drop in the dow tomorrow.
bilups on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Liberals, just don’t “even” try that crap about oh now we all need to come together. Screw you. We needed you during the last eight years and you tore this country to shreads in front of our enemies. If the country didn’t mean anything to you then, why should it to me now just becasue “you” stole an election?
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Ditto. Couldn’t've said it better.
Lift me up…please. I was sooo confident.
Chewy the Lab on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Good man. Proud to have you close by.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Should we all get together and throw socialism a welcome to America Party? I am truly demoralized and heartbroken.
goldeagle11 on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
the Media getting away with near Treason in some cases during a time of war in smearing Bush with lies and bs is why the GOP brand is as bad as it is
jp on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Brilliant, and easily could be said in almost EVERY election since Reagan.
Monkei on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Do you all think Sarah will be speaking tonight too? I’m thinking it will be another GREAT speech from the Cuda.
ousoonerfan15 on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Don’t forget free gas and paying of mortgage, probably subprime.
Here we go on the Sara’Cuda stomping.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Seems like Nikita Kruschev was right. I feel like I’m going to puke.
DaveF on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Conservatives will just have to regroup. We did it in 1976…
and we got Reagan…..in 1980.
We have Palin now….that is enough….for 2012.
dec5 on November 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
That comment was revolting Roger – truly. You aren’t even good enough to shine McCain’s shoes.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Its a long shot, but if Fla, Oh, and VA come back to Mac, I see a tie scenario at 269 EV’s. Might be wishful thinking but what the hell…
jbtripp on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
The motto of this election:
Ask not what your country can do for you — DEMAND IT.
aero on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
OHIO IS NOT GONE YET!!! PA is gone… REMEMBER KERRY HAD A HUGE, HUGE LEAD AT MIDNIGHT!!! THEN ACTUAL VOTES CAME IN!!!
Mark Garnett on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Ask ManlyRash how that worked out will ya?
Bradky on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Disgraceful.
Spirit of 1776 on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
We have to hold on the the little bit of media we have. March on WA against the Fairness Doctrine and gun control.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I realize that it’s very naive on my part to be surprised, but I am totally blown away by how STUPID people in this country have proven themselves to be. We deserve everything we get, and it’s going to be bad.
jr.ewing.78 on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Well, as some have said, could be a good chance for the Republican party to reorganize itself and finally get some direction. It took having Jimmah Carter around, in order to get Reagan. If Gerald Ford had won, we would most likely have not gotten Reagan from 81-89.
Actually it took Clinton, in order to get a GOP congress for a while. However, I cant recall them doing a whole lot for the past few years they were in power.
I can easily see Obama being like Jimmy Carter, or the first two years of leftist Clinton. For me, the scariest thing about Obama, is A – His liking of Judicial activist judges, and then Pelosi/Reid able to offer up whatever leftist crap legistation knowing Obama WILL sign it.
firepilot on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
What are you talking about? Mitt’s lip gloss left quite a glossy shine on Bush’s @ss during the primaries. Obama may have run out of money with all of the footage. Also there is the fact that many book burners explicitly don’t like Mormons, in addition to otherwise normal people who are more quiet about their views that combine and make a large percentage. Having to kiss Bush’s @ss to win the primaries was where the election lost, regurgitating the talking points in favor of Bush’s policy killed them all.
LevStrauss on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I’ll miss free and capitalist America.
Christoph on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
This country of ours has just placed it’s fate in the hands of a stuttering, corrupt, imbecile…hope it turns out well.
AUINSC on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Don’t get anything less than a .38. And get hollow points or similar.
RedNewEnglander on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Look, we all knew when McCain got the nomination that he was a weak candidate. I didn’t give him a snowball’s chance till Palin signed on, but as good as she is, she couldn’t win it for him. Mac is a really cool guy, an honest to goodness hero, but he wasn’t a strong candidate, and he ran into an Obama buzzsaw.
So we did what we could do. No dishonor in that. And I’m pretty sure that if Obama tries to do even a few of the things he’s promised, it will downright galvanize conservatives.
Dee2008 on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Today I cleaned out my bank accounts and bought lots of ammo tomorrow my husband will quit the union and cash in his 401K.
Remember guys when given the chance, deal in cash!
Bicyea on November 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Brill Kristol is a jackass. He should be kicked out of the party for his stupidity. He hasnt yet figured out that Palin was a contributor to the sinking of the party. duh. whats it going to take you pathetic airhead?
Roger Waters on November 4, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Bush did keep this country safe. Who would have thought after 9/11 there would be no more attacks? Gas prices are down and the war in Iraq is a non issue. Were it not for Frank et al in Freddie and Fannie and the total dive the economy took since 2006 Bush would be looking pretty good right now.
msmveritas on November 4, 2008 at 10:19 PM
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