Round three: CO, NM; Update: Fox calls Ohio for Obama; Update: CNN calls Iowa for Obama; Update: Fox calls Virginia for Obama; Update: Denver Post calls Colorado for Obama; Update: NBC calls the election for Obama
posted at 9:06 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
At this point I’d be shocked if either of them mattered, but the polls have closed so here’s a new thread for results.
As I’m writing that, CNN calls Minnesota and Michigan for The One.
Update: Turns out my prediction was too conservative: I had Ohio going for McCain. Fox calls it for The One. And with that, the hour of reckoning is at hand.
Update: I said in this post over the weekend that under no circumstances could Maverick lose more than one among Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia. Unless the network projections are drastically wrong, he’s already lost two. According to MSNBC, with both PA and OH in the ledger, Obama has 195 EVs with 55 still to come from California. Florida would put him over the top.
Update: Ohio’s the first red state from 2004 to flip, incidentally, and the only one Obama needs thanks to its high EV number. He can win the election now simply by holding Kerry’s states.
Update: The nets will be appropriately cautious about calling Florida early after the fiasco eight years ago but Obama’s leading steadily by 150,000-200,000 votes with 60 percent reporting and the bellwether counties don’t look good. If that flips, we’re approaching landslide territory.
Update: Obama wins New Mexico, unsurprisingly.
Update: The polls are closed now in Nevada and Montana too, but neither will matter. CNN calls Iowa for The One.
Update: With 84 percent reporting, Obama’s now ahead in Virginia by 13,000 votes.
Update: With 91 percent reporting and a lead of more than 50,000 votes, Fox hands Virginia to The One. That gives him 220 EVs, according to my tally. California will put him over the top.
Update: More blood on the floor: The Denver Post says Colorado belongs to The One. We should have a call on California from the networks within the next five minutes, and that should wrap things up.
Update: And there’s California, and there’s the election.
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We are going to have the same old boring leaders in Congress, Boehner, McConnel, these guys are terrible when it comes to the message.
commodore on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
You’re an idiot.
I remember one really good line from The Onion about Paul. “Downside: People may decide they like roads.”
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I still believe that the MSM is about to get it’s BUTT handed to it, they have LIED to America for the last time, DO NOT QUIT YET!
Mark Garnett on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
DO NOT BLAME PALIN.
Nuge em on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Apparently 25 million of us will be needing to go underground soon.
bbz123 on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Unbelievable
NoFanofLibs on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
You top the list.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Go check out the other thread quick.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Last night I was gracious enough to come here and attempt to cut through your Neocon fog by informing you that Obama would take >330 in the EC. You repaid my kindness by calling me a delusional Stalinist troll. Tonight I respond by saying; SCOREBOARD.
Enjoy the wilderness, remember to pack some clean undies, you’ll be away for a long time. Please, please please support Palin in ’12. Now talk amongst yourselves while the adults try to clean up your mess.
phatman on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Florida still casting votes…
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I blame the MSM
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Palin was a HUGE mistake. Probably the nail in the coffin.
damian1967 on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Come on guys! I understood Manly and others doing this over-optimistic stuff the last few weeks, we needed to keep republicans enthusiastic and pumped up to GOTV.
I also believed that we could have won if we got enough republicans out to vote. And I supported the effort even though, like many others in HA I could see how unprovable victory was.
But I believe that one of the things that we conservatives pride ourselves of is using our minds. It was difficult to ignore what our critical thinking was telling us for the sake of maximizing any chance of winning and it was also difficult to see fellow conservatives who made the mistake of expressing the reality they were seeing being called all kind of names.
But I don’t see the purpose of keeping this pretense much longer. Some people here might need to start coming to terms with the reality of this loss and begin the road to coping with it and make plans for the next steps we need to take to recover from it. Hopefully everyone can find a friendly and helpful forum here for that noble task.
neuquenguy on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Well, like I said, the liberals have never seen a disloyal opposition like they’re going to see with me.
Game on b*tches, it starts tomorrow.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Real nice on the eyes,Manly
Bernadette on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
The Economy. That is what lost this election for us.
Ironic that the Democrats were mostly responsible for this catastrophe.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Nevermind. Thanks.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
OMG, Campbell Brown is practically aglow — she needs to STFU already.
NoLeftTurn on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
where the hell
are the pumas.
seriously.
gannak on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
So can Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton get real jobs now? We got a black president so we can’t be racist anymore.
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Ah but it was McCain that delivered the killing blow. In last place he gave his points to Huck to put Huck up just a couple percent. It killed Romney. Huck was never viable. McCain is a selfish tool. He’s a much better candidate for president than Obama, but I’ve never been to thrilled with him.
blankminde on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
It looks like we’ve actually lost.
God save us, because we are now into the Dark Side…
Fuzzlenutter on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Yes he is. He represents the Old Right, before the rise of neoconservatism. He’s an old-school conservative who wants to return the country back to its Constitutional values, as established by our founding fathers. Nation-building and spreading democracy are liberal ideas.
MedSchoolCatholic on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Good. Jerk.
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Its over folks its going to be a long four years 3 supreme court justises Jimmy Carter stagflation revisited.
Good gawd whats next a STYX reunion concert with Dennis Deyoung?
Kevin43 on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
SCREW THAT! This is not Bush’s fault. We just sat there and let liberals character assassinate him. It’s not Bush’s fault.
terryannonline on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Murtha winning by 18% of the vote.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
I used to buy that MSM bullcrap, but while she is inexperienced and I am not entirely fond of her, it is partially the fault of the McCain campaign’s idiocy in rolling her out, and the MSM’s brutal smear tactics and fear-mongering.
Achilles on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Cannot complain about the MAN, when you are the MAN…no more whining about racism you freaks.
cblesz on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Let’s just hope the gains in Iraq are basically irreversible at this point and Obama will at least not blow them. Surely he doesn’t want to get tagged with losing a war that has been largely won.
Dudley Smith on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
OT: (I think I posted the link in another thread, but I’ll just copypasta the text here)
Ugly on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
No I’m not kidding you! I would have stayed home and not voted for McCain if not for a true conservative like Palin. And I know a significant percentage of conservatives would have done the same.
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
HA readers. Pray for Israel, they will need our prayers in this dark time. Israel existence is now in jeopardy.
Lance Murdock on November 4, 2008 at 9:29 PM
As is the freedom of Eastern Europe.
Bad as this is for us here in the US, millions around world will really suffer in the coming years because of this.
trigon on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
why isn’t IN and VI called yet??
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
ok, i am done with the republican party and will now be independent and most likely will not even vote again. this is just bull, i cannot beleive the american people are this upset or stupid but i will now sell my business and live off the goverment, THE AMERICAN WAY. darn i am pissed.
foxone on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Manly, you still have room on the ramparts? I’m there. It is not over.
Proud Texan on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Philadelphia screwed PA again. Once again, 80% Democrat – 20% Republican. This city needs to be traded to New Jersey.
tflst5 on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
MURTHA, JOHN P. (DEM)
19,985 52.5%
RUSSELL, WILLIAM (REP)
18,062 47.5%
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Where do we go from here….do we have a chance? Va is still out. We have to do it to it.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
My theory is that liberals tend to tell exit pollsters to get lost less often.
Your concern is appreciated, but I’m just fine.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
The Economy. That is what lost this election for us.
Ironic that the Democrats were mostly responsible for this catastrophe. – Carbon
Damn right, but people don’t get that, they think it’s Bush’s fault.
Tony737 on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
va sorry?
cnn is rubbing it in, bad bad bad
audiotom on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
LOL would give Weebork a run for his money on comedy.
abinitioadinfinitum on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Ohio, 17.55% reporting …..
McCain, John (R) 50.45% 384,184
Obama, Barack (D) 47.85% 364,368
It ain’t over til it’s over.
fogw on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
We got a live Paulnut here. Take cover.
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Here’s a tid bit!!
All of a sudden,the MSM are in droves in Kenya?
So now,the F$@$#%$^%$#$K MSM feels its important
to be in Kenya!!
And yet,all through this election the MSM had
no need to be in Kenya!
Biased MSM just keeps rolling along!!
canopfor on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Entelechny,
Consider me slapped
Thanks Enelechny I needed that
F15Mech on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
The OFFICIAL site of Ohio has McCAIN ahead… hang in there!
Mark Garnett on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Well, now I am officially bummed. I am going to watch some old TV I recorded, drink, pray, drink some more, and pray that when I wake up tomorrow the votes will have been counted, and somebody has a big oops to report.
Damn GOP, Damn media liars, and damn stupid voters who don’t give a rats rear end about knowing the truth.
On the bright side, I think I will lose some weight since my appetite is gone.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
I haven’t believed one word from the msm in years. I’m not gonna start tonight. I will believe certified results and until then, I think we can win this.
Now, slightly OT, but a couple of weeks ago on this blog, there was some talk of secession. Anyone still interested if ACORN wins this thing?
califcon on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Just goes to show how uneducated the electorate really is. The Obama administration is going to make Jimmy Carter look like freaking genius.
I’ll be stuffing my money under the mattress for the next four years.
NoLeftTurn on November 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
And he endorsed Pork Master Ted Stevens and secured pork for his own district.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Shoot I might MOVE to Israel at least they will fight back against Jihadism
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
The return of disco.
Mark1971 on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Mark, you an Manly are doing the best you can. But I must tell you:I am out of tears and convinced we lost. And I say again. Next time a so called Hillary supporter comes around I say we should never trust them again. Traitors. What are they saying at Hillbuz? I can tell you. They are laughing at us. Yes.
clemycali on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
2008 = 1976
Obama = Carter
McCain = Ford
GWB = Nixon
Biden = Mondale
Palin = Bob Dole
Lieberman = Rockefeller
MSM = Chevy Chase
Romney = Reagan?
playblu on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Along with their bibles and guns, it looks like Pennsylvanians like to get slapped around by their politicians too.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Looks like you got owned by President Elect Obama rather convincingly.
What is the prediction for 2012 bright boy?
Bradky on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, but i beleive most on this board got really excited about mccain only AFTER he picked palin.
Nuge em on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
the paulnuts think the GOP can sweep back power in congress in 2010 and make him speaker of house…some i’ve read anyway.
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Nice to put a face with a (terrible) nic. I don’t believe you hate children. :o) Not with a face like that.
hoosiermama on November 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Give me a break. She was a decisive negative factor among undecideds.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Time to start formulating Plan B, tax revolt! Let the rich liberals in the Northeast, FL and CA pay for all this enlightened entitlement.
Death of America, All Hail Euramefrica!
dmann on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I like the trend. Hope it keeps going.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I’m watching 3rd Rock from the Sun…
journeyscarab on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Nobody is blaming Palin. We are blaming her horrible rollout, which Palin has to take some responsibility for. She knew she wasn’t an expert of foreign policy so she should have avoided interviews about it until she got up to speed.
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Back up. Who posted above that this might be a way to ensure that there are no riots tonight and we won’t really know the results until tomorrow? This way the police could be in full control. Please tell me the EV that we are seeing projected on these networks are not the actual count? I just might still have some hope, if someone will give me a hand.
shoregulls on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Thanks Mark Garnett, it is good that somewhere they are actually waiting to count the votes before awarding EC votes. What a freaking novel idea!!!
Of course, I am hoping they are not calling FL because they don’t need the egg on the face they faced 8 years ago.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
don’t hate on the ‘cuda. she’s the best thing that came out of this campaign.
gannak on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Really? So how come everybody called OH for O?
clemycali on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
and don’t start getting nasty with manly. he was one of the very few keeping hope alive in your pansy ass souls.
Nuge em on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Pennsylvania at 9:44 pm Eastern:
62.1
36.9
Change of 2% for McCain in ten minutes.
HMMM…
HOLD THE LINE.
duanesm on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I’m going to sleep and hope to wake up to a McCain presidency, because this waking nightmare is unbearable. ‘Night folks…
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
How could they have been so far off on PA? 66% for O?
dmarie on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Looks like they took a page out of Rush’s operation chaos — turnabout fair play I suppose. Be sure to thank Rush.
Bradky on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
If God is with us, who can be against us? Have faith, people, stay strong, and stand together.
Christien on November 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I’m so sick of people people talking about Palin being a mistake. SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY AND STOP TRYING TO CHUCK HER UNDER THE BUS. She was a brilliant choice and she did nothing but help McCain. If anyone lost this election for McCain it was Bush. Bush never defended himself and stood by while his party betrayed its values and spent spent spent. So knock it off with the Palin bashing.
silentMajority on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Whats with this Ohio?
Lowest Republican voting turnout?
True?
or MSM propaganda?
canopfor on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Do you have any evidence they are wrong?
terryannonline on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
so can someone tell a confused Obama supporter how he won when all the polls were so obviously wrong? it’s like a Christmas miracle!
gobama08 on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I am too scared to look over at MSNBC right now I bet Matthews and Olby are making out over the news
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
On the bright side, I may get to see Tehran sooner than I thought…
blankminde on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
No need to overreact. The Dems were in the same position 4 years ago, albeit with smaller deficits in the House and Senate.
The key is who’s gonna lead the GOP from this point forward. Palin and Jindal are great, but they’re governors of inconsequential states.
They will be aided by the fact that the Dems will run this country into the ground. What’s laughable is that the media(especially Fox) are trying to portray Obama as a centrist. He’ll be a rubber stamp for Pelosi and Reid.
Doughboy on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Roger that. Voting for McCain was not an easy thing to do for any of us.
road2utopia on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
allah i think it is time to bring out the you tube video stating its over…
Lance Murdock on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Hate to say it but many social programs that our supreme overlord will implement will be irreversible. Example: social security, and medicaid…
cblesz on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
some GOP congressman should propose “Windfall Profits Taxes” on Oprah, Hollywood and Trial Lawyers profits
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
They’re gonns have to take Ohio back and maybe Penn.
katy on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
..for a city to be named later..
CBarker on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I just finished printing two new bumper stickers.
1. “Obama lied and babies died.”
2. “Obama, the best president money can buy!”
I’ll wait until Januray for the “Impeach Obama” ones.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
God, I love Texas. A state where the men still have balls.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Ohio is going to flip back.
Project Ocelot on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Simple answer… if this holds, the country is FAR more socialist than we thought. So, the question begs. What country on earth is the least socialist with the most friendly business and personal tax rates?
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative
China
Kat_Mo on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Eat Shit, RINO
BacaDog on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
The theme song for Bill Clinton was Fleetwood Mac’s Don’t stop (thinkin’ about tomorrow).
Barack Obama’s theme song will be Fleetwood Mac’s Over My Head.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I’m not giving up yet.
backwoods conservative on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I did too, but it evaporated after the Couric interview. She never recovered from that. Part of the blame certainly goes to the McCain campaign for putting her there, but she’s not free of blame.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
If she hadn’t been the VP nominee we would have lost the Senate seats as well. She energized the base in a way McCain didn’t. The way the media came after her tooth and nail is proof it was a good choice.
tgibson1962 on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
It’s already begun.
And you know the likes of the Fox News All Stars, Peggy Noonan, and such will follow suit.
Sure, let’s blame Palin, not the moderate, “safe” Republican who was supposed to get all these independents and moderates on board.
The campaign never should have had her go on with Couric or Gibson, but I love how she flubs the Supreme Court question, but Biden gets away with gaffe after gaffe.
I’m with Rush.
Let this, yet again, be a lesson that moderate conservatism does not win.
Hawkins1701 on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Let’s just wait until the vote is COUNTED before we take the networks’ word that Ohio is lost. Looks like McCain is ahead according to the actual count.
Tennman on November 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
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