Round three: CO, NM; Update: Fox calls Ohio for Obama; Update: CNN calls Iowa for Obama; Update: Fox calls Virginia for Obama; Update: Denver Post calls Colorado for Obama; Update: NBC calls the election for Obama
posted at 9:06 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
At this point I’d be shocked if either of them mattered, but the polls have closed so here’s a new thread for results.
As I’m writing that, CNN calls Minnesota and Michigan for The One.
Update: Turns out my prediction was too conservative: I had Ohio going for McCain. Fox calls it for The One. And with that, the hour of reckoning is at hand.
Update: I said in this post over the weekend that under no circumstances could Maverick lose more than one among Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia. Unless the network projections are drastically wrong, he’s already lost two. According to MSNBC, with both PA and OH in the ledger, Obama has 195 EVs with 55 still to come from California. Florida would put him over the top.
Update: Ohio’s the first red state from 2004 to flip, incidentally, and the only one Obama needs thanks to its high EV number. He can win the election now simply by holding Kerry’s states.
Update: The nets will be appropriately cautious about calling Florida early after the fiasco eight years ago but Obama’s leading steadily by 150,000-200,000 votes with 60 percent reporting and the bellwether counties don’t look good. If that flips, we’re approaching landslide territory.
Update: Obama wins New Mexico, unsurprisingly.
Update: The polls are closed now in Nevada and Montana too, but neither will matter. CNN calls Iowa for The One.
Update: With 84 percent reporting, Obama’s now ahead in Virginia by 13,000 votes.
Update: With 91 percent reporting and a lead of more than 50,000 votes, Fox hands Virginia to The One. That gives him 220 EVs, according to my tally. California will put him over the top.
Update: More blood on the floor: The Denver Post says Colorado belongs to The One. We should have a call on California from the networks within the next five minutes, and that should wrap things up.
Update: And there’s California, and there’s the election.










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Still here, General.
Wait for the vote totals, folks. I’ll believe it when I see the votes.
BacaDog on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
All right people, stop panicking.
Everyone is fixated on Ohio and Pennsylvania – only a small % of total is counted in those states and there may be other paths to McCain victory – have you seen Michigan numbers ? Last I looked it was trending McCain
runner on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
So, you guys don’t know what exit polls are? What’s going on here?
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Then who for VP? Lieberman. You are a RINO and you are the reason we lost this election, other stupid RINOS that let the MSM pick their candidate.
Sarah is a conservative.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
PA counties:
http://election.cbsnews.com/election2008/county.shtml?state=PA&race=P&jurisdiction=0
24% reporting
funky chicken on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
They’ve become completely disconnected from their average voter. Too much time in DC and not enough time spent with the people who put them there. That will change starting next week, I hope.
BadgerHawk on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Scratch that…they just called it.
bdestini on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Romney was not the better pick at the time, but would have been in retrospect. It would have been an unimpeachable economic background at just the right time.
alflauren on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Surprised?
Ugly on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Thanks. Take a place on the rampart. And start taking down names.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Good point. We don’t have it nearly as bad as long as we dwell in the land of Obamessiah.
econavenger on November 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Obama’s Middle East adviser is named Ray “Mabus”
abinitioadinfinitum on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I look forward to the government mandated thermostat control from utility companies. No more 72 degrees for you Americans and also, get rid of that SUV.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
The popular vote doesn’t mean a damn thing. McCain needs 180 Evs to win. Obama needs 70.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Finally! People agree with me. The GOP needs an enema. Go back to small-government conservatism, and oust the pro-war neocons.
MedSchoolCatholic on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Well regardless of happens I would like to thank HA and Hannity and Rush for making me realize that I’m a lot more Conservative than I thought I was.
Before this election I would have sworn I was a moderate. Not anymore!
gophergirl on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
this shouldnt even be close, but BHO is very likely gonna win. but thats what can happen when our party lets a candidate endorsed by the NYT on the ticket.
chasdal on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Terrorists, African witchdoctors, and the French are celebrating tonight.
rightallthetime on November 4, 2008 at 9:27 PM
You forgot to mention:
- Islamic terrorists
- Reverse racists (whitey haters)
- Anti-semites (too numerous to mention)
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Are Sarandon and Fonda covered in the above mentioned categories or do we need to tack on Hollywood Intellectuals?
road2utopia on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
As soon as you quit your job and go on the governments dime.
Frankly that is sounding pretty good right now.
My home loan gets bailed-out.
Car loan gets bailed-out (oh snap I paid that off 3 years early last year).
I don’t have a college degree however I spent 8 years trying to excel and managed to increase my income from 18k (USAF E-4) to over 100k.
And America elects this ass?
I lost all hope in America.
F15Mech on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Imagine going to war with this bunch.
Entelechy on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I’m not watching crap until late tonight when the votes are all counted. Just reading you whiners is making me depressed. Jeebus, go change your diapers and get a bottle.
Kat_Mo on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Arizona hasn’t been called yet?
Mattpat11 on November 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Does anyone have a link to raw vote totals in PA?
bdestini on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
That’s true unless McCain wins and loses the popular vote, in which case, it’ll matter plenty.
Esthier on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
McCain is gaining ground in Ohio
McCain, John (R) 50.20% 346,199
Obama, Barack (D) 48.13% 331,900
http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enrpublic/f?p=130:6:0
mbs on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Yep.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Apparently the magic number is seven. It took only seven years for Americans to forget what happened to our country on September 11, 2001. Sad and pathetic. These 51% that are going to shift our country deserve EVERYTHING they’re going to get. It’s the caring, informed, patriotic 49% that I’m going to cry for.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Bummer:
Murtha (D) 21,827 60%
Russell (R) 14,461 40%
17% Precincts Reporting
dugan on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
‘tard paul isn’t conservative either.
Darth Executor on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I keep seeing their tied on popular votes on the fox site. And they’re not even showing electorals anymore. And they’re exit polls. So we arent toast yet.
scalleywag on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I’m no prince charming.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Well the people she’s actually governed would beg to differ with you. And so would I. She’s the only reason I went out and voted for McCain today. Okay? Okay!
I believe if it were not for Palin, McCain would be drastically lower in poll numbers.
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I blame Sarah Palin too. McCain’s polls started tanking and never recovered after that Couric interview. The whole campaign suspension didn’t help either.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
The media is doing this to ensure there are no riots tonight. The truth will come in the morning
katy on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
FOX pundits are deluding themselves thinking Obama will be moderate. Sad.
jbtripp on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I don’t really think so. I liked Rudy to a degree, but all he ever talked about was 9/11. Mitt Romney was okay, but I’ve heard a lot of bad things about his health care plan or something like that. And Fred? Well, I just don’t think he would have been any more interesting than McCain. McCain just needed to get more organized rather than laze around and let morons like Rick Davis screw everything up.
Achilles on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Here in the military community it’s going to be a sad day tomorrow if The One makes it in. I know a lot of the guys here were hoping for a McCain win.
Brat4life on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I quit watching…commencing to drinking
lsutiger on November 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Taiwan is in deep trouble.
mankai on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. The future stars of the GOP are Palin and Jindal. Ron Paul could promise everyone a lifetime supply of gas and still lose.
amerpundit on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Lets stop blaming Fox, its not their fault. What needs to be done is start purging the RINO’s. Get conservatives back in position and hold them to the fire. Don’t forget the so called “conservatives” who dismissed Palin. (Noonan, Frum, Brookes…etc) Go back to principles and attack the opponent.
Big Orange on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Juan Williams is such a tool.
CherokeeJack on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Maybe Fox has decided that if they push Obama then liberals will go lightly on them when the Fairness Doctrine gets passed.
Kamikaze on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
MURTHA, JOHN P. (DEM)
18,009 53.2%
RUSSELL, WILLIAM (REP)
15,851 46.8%
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
I have not seen a concession speech yet.
I feel the same about America when I see that speech.
Entelechy on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Thank you, Manly Rash. Your courage has been inspiring. Btw, did Alexis Glick just say “reactoring?”
ypbatty on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Fox pundits are assholes.
They’re already talking about how the Obama administration will govern.
IT’S NOT FREAKIN’ OVER.
duanesm on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
there’s a lot of havoc to make now… let’s eliminate iran… stealth like… we all wake up one morning and iran is gone… and everyone says WTH? and we just whistle and look aloof.
but it’s still not done yet… returns are still early… it may end up another 2000… flipping states until it’s done.
juan williams right now is saying mccain wins on all key issues in PA… wait for it.
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Juan Williams-”obama is not ultra-liberal.” Are you friggin’ kidding me! Yeah, if supporting INFANTICIDE is not ultra liberal. WTF?
Babino on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
1] Didn’t they used to wait until like 50% of the vote was in, before “calling” a state? What’s up with the <1% calls?
2] Why hasn’t Texas been called? Should be a no-brainer.
3] Didn’t they used to wait until like 11pm to call it? It’s friggan 9:30 and the election is lost? I’m not believing this. The American public is looking WAYYYYYY dumber than I could imagine. “Race war” going down on South Park. More entertaining.
LibertyBoyNYC on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Elections like this are bad for my liver. For some reason, I just registered a Second Life account.
*drinks*
Ugly on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Is Iraq screwed? Have our brave troops fought for nothing now? WTF? How do we vote for Neville Chamberlain in the middle of a war?
Tony737 on November 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Truly, it is. But they want to make sure they are able to grace The Messiah’s presence when he enters the White House.
Achilles on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Is hawkdriver around?
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
You all need to chill about Ohio. I’m in Ohio, I know what’s going on.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Here’s the link to PA
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/
It’s currently 63% to 35% for Obama, with 27% reporting
mbs on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
William Amos,
They did run crappy elections. But where they really lost it was:
1. Out of control spending
2. Expansion of Govt
3. Illegal Immigration
4. If you go to war, kick ass and come home..forget nation building
mountainmanbob on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
No reason to freak out yet. It’s not pretty at all. But there is no reason to be reactionary, especially given that votes still need to be counted and networks have (famously) screwed it up before. We’ll have plenty of time to react once the voices (especially in OH, PA, FL, and VA) are all heard, whether one way or another.
Wineaholic on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
many men are found to be “reactoring” to glick…
Fozzy Bear on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Hey, if you want to give up at the beginning of the 2nd quarter, go ahead. I’ll wait a bit, although it may frustrate you.
Jim Treacher on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Huckabee will never be forgiven.
malan89 on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Manly, is that really you!
I’m…
blushing…
signing off for now. back later.
ErinF on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I’ll say again, quit watching t v and have some fun with Ed’s map. You can click through states and mouse over counties to see what’s going on. Scroll down to see some of the other state races. I am watching MN & PA right now.
Then when Megyn comes back on (she’s getting way too little air time) watch tv again.
Mr_Magoo on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
VA – 50-50 with 70% of precincts reporting.
hawksruleva on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Manly: you can take down mine. But since you’ll be out of here by 12pm tomorrow, who car
Republican on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
No Sarah Palin bashing here! We wouldn’t have had 1/2 a chance without her in the race. This was the financial crisis and the MSM. PERIOD.
jbtripp on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I’m with you. That’s why I’m so pissed off. The worst thing is Obama is going to be the one who has to deal with Iran going nuclear. We’re fucked.
CanadianGuy on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Exactly. From now on, our Conservative answer to the media and Democrats is, “So what?”
hawkdriver on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Well, the country protested themselves right into higher taxes, defeat in Iraq, the UN running our defense, a brown shirt brigade, and the Fairness Doctrine.
Good Job Americans. We have a real NEED FOR EDUCATION, apparently.
HornetSting on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Compared to me, you’re Fabio.
Ugly on November 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM
What…are the KOS kids posting here tonight? Or did Parker and Noonan get their own zombies to post?
Kat_Mo on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Dude. You are hot as sh!t.
carbon_footprint on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
You know; to keep on Obama’s good side.
Achilles on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
we are sending one big message of weakness to our enemies, scary stuff
jp on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Should be, but tonight is no ordinary night.
Plus, they don’t want to screw up like in 00 and 04.
mycowardice on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I hope you all learned an important lesson tonight. Always listen to the polls, pundits, and naysayers. They apparently know what they’re talking about.
justfinethanks on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Looks like they’ve already started. Iran thinks hitting Britain would be a good idea, let’s hope they’re just talking crap…
Fortunata on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Are you kidding me? Obama will get close to 350 electoral votes tonight. How much lower can he get with anyone else?
Palin killed McCain’s experience argument against Obama. Clinton’s experience argument at least got her a near tie.
haner on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Then please share it with us!
Gina on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
The Democrats spent the last 8 years demonizing Bush and the Republicans. The press followed suit and did the same.
If the Republicans are going to make a comeback, they need to get control of the message. That is, if they can agree on a message.
Can anyone tell me what the Republican agenda of the House and Senate candidates was? What did they run on? Did they give voters a reason to vote for them?
We will now see more Republicans retiring as its no fun to be in the minority. And they won’t care if there is a Republican groomed to take their seat.
We need a complete purge of the Party.
huckleberryfriend on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Isn’t “Hollywood intellectuals” an oxymoron?
redfoxbluestate on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I’m with you on the ramparts, Manly! Actually, I’m terribly grateful you are on this planet with me right now.
Alana on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
The future of the party is really bright. Palin, Jindal, Pence, Cantor, etc.
gophergirl on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Yes. Sorry.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Bush the liberal did this
unseen on November 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
So your theory is that the exit pollsters are only asking those people who just happen to say they voted liberal?
Please, put away the tin foil hat and accept reality. Don’t embarrass yourself tonight. McCain will lose just as the polls predicted.
keep the change on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
You’d think Fox would wait until Obama wins until they start planning out his presidency.
TruthShallSetYouFree on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
WI and MI are McCains!!!!!!!!! At this time, please look at the number of % reported and COUNTED… it is NOT votes yet!
Mark Garnett on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I was just talking to a gal in MA, ran down Ayers, Rezko, Wright and Pfleger, ahe asked why she never heard any of that before.
Why indeed.
bbz123 on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Iran IS GOING NUCLEAR no doubt about it…and I am not surprised that obama won…Israel stands alone according to Ezekiel….and now with Obama we will abandon israel..its gonna be a wild ride….
glad I don’t live on the east coast….
right4life on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Fixed.
fogw on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Simple answer… if this holds, the country is FAR more socialist than we thought. So, the question begs. What country on earth is the least socialist with the most friendly business and personal tax rates?
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Its the death of star wars and tax breaks and a strong military
But hey we will have crappy heath care for all and all the welfare we could want
William Amos on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I agree with Ann Coulter this morning: while the Middle East burns and smokes I want us arguing “slave reparations” and saying “uhm, we’re busy”.
Marcus on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
You better be a female. Or at least a tranny.
ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
How on earth can they call Ohio for Obama if McCain is AHEAD!!! This is driving me to drink. Literally.
Ssharon on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Well, at least the bourbon is settling in.
Kai on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
McCain is ahead in Ohio
bdestini on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
The noise here is beginning to get comical.
*puts another log on the fire*
Saltysam on November 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
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