Round three: CO, NM; Update: Fox calls Ohio for Obama; Update: CNN calls Iowa for Obama; Update: Fox calls Virginia for Obama; Update: Denver Post calls Colorado for Obama; Update: NBC calls the election for Obama

posted at 9:06 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit

At this point I’d be shocked if either of them mattered, but the polls have closed so here’s a new thread for results.

As I’m writing that, CNN calls Minnesota and Michigan for The One.

Update: Turns out my prediction was too conservative: I had Ohio going for McCain. Fox calls it for The One. And with that, the hour of reckoning is at hand.

Update: I said in this post over the weekend that under no circumstances could Maverick lose more than one among Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia. Unless the network projections are drastically wrong, he’s already lost two. According to MSNBC, with both PA and OH in the ledger, Obama has 195 EVs with 55 still to come from California. Florida would put him over the top.

Update: Ohio’s the first red state from 2004 to flip, incidentally, and the only one Obama needs thanks to its high EV number. He can win the election now simply by holding Kerry’s states.

Update: The nets will be appropriately cautious about calling Florida early after the fiasco eight years ago but Obama’s leading steadily by 150,000-200,000 votes with 60 percent reporting and the bellwether counties don’t look good. If that flips, we’re approaching landslide territory.

Update: Obama wins New Mexico, unsurprisingly.

Update: The polls are closed now in Nevada and Montana too, but neither will matter. CNN calls Iowa for The One.

Update: With 84 percent reporting, Obama’s now ahead in Virginia by 13,000 votes.

Update: With 91 percent reporting and a lead of more than 50,000 votes, Fox hands Virginia to The One. That gives him 220 EVs, according to my tally. California will put him over the top.

Update: More blood on the floor: The Denver Post says Colorado belongs to The One. We should have a call on California from the networks within the next five minutes, and that should wrap things up.

Update: And there’s California, and there’s the election.


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I will miss ManlyRash dearly. He fought the good fight for all Americans. I hope he changes his mind and returns to posting here, but if he doesn’t then I am counting on Grue and people like him to keep us informed, and to keep our hopes up over the next four years, we are going to need it.

Poor_Knight on November 5, 2008 at 12:21 AM

Enjoy it while you can liberals, tomorrow starts a taste of your own GD medicine. Gloves off and no mercy. No rules and no regrets.

You have blood on your hands for selling your military down the river during time of war to gain your power back. Is it sweet? I owe liberals nothing and you’re not the American People referred to in the Soldiers Creed. For all of the 14 dead from my unit I damn you. You don’t even amount to the dust they carried on their boots.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:03 AM

Sorry Hawkdriver but you and I both know every problem will be blamed on Bush and somehow will be Bush’s fault even though he left office X number of years ago.

You folks like to blame somebody. If you want to blame anybody it has to be George Bush. It was him and him alone who had a poor second term in office and was President when the financial meltdown occurred.

technopeasant on November 5, 2008 at 12:06 AM

technopeasant you smell like a troll or a squishy Rhino but I must agree. Bush while serving a solid term (even if not EVER rallying the people during wartime LIKE I THINK A PRESIDENT SHOULD have) he did elect good judges and ACTUALLY KILL FOREIGN ENEMIES not just talk like Clinton did with his ATTACK”we will bring those responsible to justice”ATTACK”we will bring those…..”ATTACK”we will…..”etc.

Bush I cannot help but feel just got tired of fighting for the nation and took a payoff (read 700 billion bailout to the failed rich) as moving money. Those evil super rich don’t give a f*ck about Obama it just makes the move to China (who like we once were see the value in being an industrial power house).

C-Low on November 5, 2008 at 12:21 AM

Wheres Obama’s aunt? lol

Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 12:21 AM

Well..I’m going to bed too depressed right now. Let me\us know tomorrow, whoever steps up, what the battle plan is for taking back the country.

Good night and God Bless us…

CCRWM on November 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM

Where’s her cane?

Ugly on November 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM

Hannitism the cancer of the Republican party.

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM

If it wasn’t for Hannity, Rush, Levin…etc there would have been many fewer red states.

Big Orange on November 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM

This man is famous for being against gun ownership, he is already talking about re-distribution of wealth,a “CIVILIAN National Security Force” and they are already making plans to silence dissent with the “Fairness” doctrine! BUY GUNS NOW!

And by the way, about that horrible financial crisis which Mr. Paulson, (a demoncrat sympathizer) and Bernake, a democrat, totally convinced us was the end of the world, watch it all mysteriously become manageable once “the one” takes office!

Bikerken on November 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM

Libs are in full West Wing jerking off mode. What the hell Montana?

Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 12:23 AM

Still wondering how to stop the MSM?

STOP SUPPORTING HOLLYWOOD!!! UP THE PIRATES!!!

spaceman spiff on November 5, 2008 at 12:23 AM

is that supposed to be Camelot
leaving the stage

wolf blitzer please stfu

audiotom on November 5, 2008 at 12:24 AM

I am utterly astonished that Americans sold their country to a flim flam man for the promise of $500 a year and “free” healthcare.

I can only say it’s time we hold fast and rebuild our movement. Keep our core values and fight the left giving no quarter when it comes to our conservative principles.

I’m going savor this bitter pill for a bit so I can remember this night well when it comes to time to support our congressional candidates in two years.

SOL…..

Son Of Liberty on November 5, 2008 at 12:24 AM

Wheres Obama’s aunt? lol

Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 12:21 AM

She’ll soon be picking out her bedroom in the White House-along with the rest of the fam.

Goodale on November 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM

There’s one bright spot….THE CLINTONS CANNOT BE HAPPY.
Bill’s legacy is all but over now. No one is gonna remember him now.

silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM

Sarah Palin 2012

Let’s get the ground game going now. The Dem/Coms taught us what we need to do. Organize organize organize.

Sarah is finally free from her chains. She can come out and say what she really feels.

ZzzzDad on November 5, 2008 at 12:26 AM

If it wasn’t for Hannity, Rush, Levin…etc there would have been many fewer red states.

Big Orange on November 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM

The hatred spewed by these people is cancerous. They handcuffed McCain and forced him to pick a vp like Palin. Imagine if McCain had picked someone like Romney.

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Compared to Obama, 90′s Bill Clinton is George Patton.

Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM

The Peter Principle Apotheosized.

Fight this crypto-Marxist Weasel!

profitsbeard on November 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM

Mr Mitt will never win the evangelical vote. That is why he will never, ever be the Republican nominee.

Great. So the evangelicals prefer a commie. And that’s what they got.

sloopy on November 5, 2008 at 12:19 AM

Evangelicals never said that the media did and we always get sucked into what they say. The Christians I knew were “all” pulling for Mitt over McCain at first.

Look we’re stupid because we still don’t get it. The media wanted McCain in 2000 because he was not as Conservative and easier to beat. Thye loved him them because they thought he was a Maverick. They were the ones that called him the Maverick because it pissed true Conservatives off. We all knew it was the same thing in 08. The media thougth he was the best guy to beat and he had all the good press over every other Republican Candidate right up until the time he won the primaries. One week the NYTs is endorsing him and the next full op-eds that they won’t allow him to counter. They turned on him and he never saw it coming. I got behind him and put my entire heart into his and Sarahs campaign. Now is the time to see things for what they are though. ANd the first is the media. GD put them out of business. They don’t run our party we do. Boycott the media and boycott Hollywood. Hit them in the pocketbook. And most of all, don’t make a single damn decision based on anything they say.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:28 AM

wait until we shot down an Israeli plane going to bomb Iran-Remember what Bidon said-we won’t like or understand why they what they did -just hang in there with them

Bullhead on November 5, 2008 at 12:29 AM

Wheres Obama’s aunt? lol

Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 12:21 AM

She’ll soon be picking out her bedroom in the White House-along with the rest of the fam.

ROFLMAO. More like under the bus with her. She’s never been any use aside from a passing moment of nostalgia in a book. Neither President Hussein or the Admin have any use for her. She’ll be soooo deported before dawn.

spaceman spiff on November 5, 2008 at 12:29 AM

The hatred spewed by these people is cancerous. They handcuffed McCain and forced him to pick a vp like Palin. Imagine if McCain had picked someone like Romney.

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 12:26 AM

You haven’t even begun to see cancerous hate kid. It will be your sides turn now, and I will for one am ready to live up to all your childish stereotypes.

ClassicCon on November 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM

There’s one bright spot….THE CLINTONS CANNOT BE HAPPY.
Bill’s legacy is all but over now. No one is gonna remember him now.

silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM

I beg to differ. The Clintons may be finished politically, aside from Hillary’s probable lifetime Senate seat, but Obama will take steps to polish that Bill Clinton legacy right up. Democrats, unlike Republicans, do not eat their own. They’ll never allow Clinton to go down in the history books as anything but a genius who brought roaring prosperity to America in the 90s. They’ll find some way to soft-shoe around that nasty welfare reform business, but within a year or so, Clinton will be inked into the history books as the visionary who made the glorious Obama ascension possible.

Doctor Zero on November 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM

will any of Obama’s past be enilghtened now that he is elected?

his college thesis? funding?

wait till the media starts waking up
the country gets worse, the handouts are not enough
they are not going to like barry

jimmy carter will look like a saint

audiotom on November 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Belive me, the Dems will overreach. Big time. Tax hikes, socialized medicine, card check, fairness doctrine, disaster abroad.

The GOP will win back Congress in 2010.

Then Sarah in ’12.

Remember, we had to go through the 4 years of Jimmy Carter in order to have 8 glorius years with Reagan. It was worth it, even though Obama is far worse than Carter.

Norwegian on November 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Coward, your name speaks volumes. It was republicans getting away from conservatism that killed them. I have listened to Rush and Hannity for years, and they don’t HATE people, they simply disagree with them. If you want to see what HATE is, go to the daily kos or Huffpo and read a few lines. I don’t hate people either, I hate what they want to do to this country. People like you want to personalize everything in order to discredit honorable men and women. If you really want a clue as to what happened tonight, know this, IN EVERY LITTLE CRAPHOLE AROUND THE WORLD THAT THE PEOPLE HATE AMERICA’S GUTS, THEY ARE CELEBRATING TONIGHT!

Bikerken on November 5, 2008 at 12:31 AM

The hatred spewed by these people is cancerous. They handcuffed McCain and forced him to pick a vp like Palin. Imagine if McCain had picked someone like Romney.

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Bullshit you liberal weasle. You never even listened to them. And I have never seen you write a word about what Randie Rhoades and her ilk like the new Senator from Minnesota has said about their military on Air America. So don’t even try. I hate people like you. They helped get Americans killed and almost lose the war for us as much as any of the enemy. And you have the gall to call what they say hate-speech? Look at the media hate-fest of Palin. You’ll see how it feels starting tomorrow you traitors.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM

They’ll never allow Clinton to go down in the history books as anything but a genius who brought roaring prosperity to America in the 90s. They’ll find some way to soft-shoe around that nasty welfare reform business, but within a year or so, Clinton will be inked into the history books as the visionary who made the glorious Obama ascension possible.

Not likely. President Hussein will not be the legitimate “first black president” until Bill and his legacy have been eradicated from America’s collective memory, which btw has already happened.

Don’t forget Bill’s already been tarred a “racist”.

spaceman spiff on November 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM

guys how is Coleman doing?? Franken CANNOT win

ousoonerfan15 on November 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Two words sums it up….Open Primaries

ohiorebel on November 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM

You haven’t even begun to see cancerous hate kid. It will be your sides turn now, and I will for one am ready to live up to all your childish stereotypes.

ClassicCon on November 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Amen CC and the more they go on, the more excited I get about getting it on. I will have a Bumper Sticker on the bed of my truck tomorrow for work that says.

“Not My President”

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:36 AM

Look at the media hate-fest of Palin. You’ll see how it feels starting tomorrow you traitors.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM

This is good, I’m feeling better already!

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:38 AM

I am from the north woods of Wisconsin. Last night on our local news they reported from gun shops, reporting on the high number of guns and ammo being bought. As people are afraid they are going to loss their right to own guns, to buy ammo.

Four years ago to the date I lost my dad to cancer. Today my husband and I went hunting, one of my dads great passions. I can only hope I can keep that tradition alive, a wonderful memory of being with my dad, remembering my dad.

northwoodsgal on November 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM

So all of John Edwards’ personality couldn’t do what Obama’s skin color did? Make North Carolina blue?

Speedwagon82 on November 5, 2008 at 12:40 AM

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Are you on glue? Palin is THE reason McCain got the backing and the votes he did. She is the ONLY reason I was able to vote for “The Maverick” *hack* *spit* without holding my nose with both hands. We’ll see Sarah Palin on the national stage again and not a moment too soon.

NTXLass on November 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Lets not eat our own, guys…we have to come together as Conservatives and Republicans and make sure this Democratic Domination of our government doesn’t last more than four years. My only consolation in all this is there are others like all of you out there that still believe in what America stands for. We can’t be divided anymore as a party. Solidify!

silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM

U.S. Senate
Minnesota

Coleman 721,533 43%
Franken 695,138 41%
63% precincts reporting

Still too close too call

Goodale on November 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM

We only have two choices.

1. Get stupid.
2. Get smart. (no pun intended Agent 86)

While everyone is breaking the dishes I’m planning the dinner menu tomorrow. Please leave something for us to use at the table.

After dinner we can sit down for some family time and decide who gets trussed up on a pole.

Limerick on November 5, 2008 at 12:42 AM

So let me get this straight. We are supposed to blame the MSM for are choice of candidates also? John McCain and Mitt Romney are two great guys but get real already hawkdriver.

LatinRed on November 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Im with hawkdriver. I have a son in the Marines. Lets see how these democraps like the same treatment they have given Bush, McCain and Sarah Palin for a change.

jpsc1 on November 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM

It’s not enough to reform the Republican Party. We have to reform the populace. The most devastating aspect of Obama’s landslide tonight for me has been the realization that a higher percentage of the population than I thought are quite literally, stupid.

To anyone with a truly rational mind, the prospect of an Obama presidency is horrifying. To anyone who knows anything about history, about philosophy, about economics, about world affairs – it is inconceivable that they could imagine throwing their support behind Obama. Yet so many apparently did.

But how could it be any different? The mainstream media, popular culture and our education system are probably more responsible for shaping people’s perceptions and thoughts than anything else. And they are all overwhelmingly left wing.

The mainstream media – well what more can be said. We have quite possible reached the lowest standards of journalism in the history of the free world. So many lies, so much misinformation – and aside from a few exceptions, virtually no diversity of opinion at all. In the past 12 months we’ve seen the mask of the media torn off and the idea that “liberal bias” is a myth put to bed once and for all. 95% of our mainstream media is devoted to dumbing down the population and imposing a kind of liberal group-think which is continually reinforced by peer pressure.

Popular culture – the world of entertainment is almost exclusively populated by brainless leftists who use their mediums to promote a left wing world view. Hollywood is full of vapid morons like Matt Damon who have never lived in the real world or done anything like running a business or managing a company (outside of the glittery world of entertainment of course.) Isn’t it funny that almost all of those who live in the fantasy make-believe world of the rich and famous are liberals? Those who are rolling in so much money that a 20% tax hike wouldn’t make the slightest bit of difference to their lifestyles? Isn’t it strange how many of these air-headed morons get involved in wacko crap like Scientology and Kabbalah? Well, these people are playing a part in the intellectual development of our young. It’s time it stopped.

Our education system – again, what more can be said? Since the 60′s, when the leftists who dominate education took it upon themselves to denounce learning techniques which had been honed over centuries and to replace it with “progressive” teaching, educational standards have declined. Instead of a focus on the individual child and his or her individual development, teachers now push desks into circles and have “group” learning in which the intellectual shortcomings of one child are absorbed into the group. Solid concretes like math, chemistry, physics and economics – with all they teach the child about concepts, reasoning and logical deduction – have now taken second place to teaching kids about their emotions and how “valid” everything they think or do is.

Barak Obama’s preferred style of education, in conjunction with his pal Ayers, was to politicize schools and edge out marketable knowledge to make way for lessons about “social justice.” We have a couple of these schools in New York – unsurprisingly, the kids get little in the way of education and gang culture reigns.

Colleges are a hotbed of Marxism and every other form of left wing idiocy. Again, we’re letting our kids be taught by morons with leather elbow pads who have spent their whole lives immersed in an academia fraught with left wing theory and a historic revisionism in which the Enlightened West is inherently evil and capitalism is the cause of all the world’s problems. Is it any wonder that after four decades of this bull that we’ve ended up with a socialist President like Obama?

Take all this and add to it the fact that parents have become so lazy and complacent that they’ll figure they’ll just leave the mental development of their kids to schools and the media – and it’s a wonder we haven’t completely fallen apart at the seams by now. We’re well on our way, however.

We need to start promoting the culture of reason again. We are a product of the Enlightenment – a movement which elevated reason and the rights of the individual above all else. Now, most people don’t even know what reason is. They’ve been taught that reason is “just one of many valid ways of thinking.” They don’t know what rights are. They’ve been taught that the government is the source of rights and that they can be cherry picked or eliminated at will. They don’t understand that every person on Earth is born with exactly the same right – the right to life and property – and that the only difference in how they experience these rights is the extent to which their government (or regime) respects and protects them.

I know I’ll lose support from many of you at this point, but I have to say it: religion should not be a part of this revolution. I’m not religious but I have tremendous respect for Judeo-Christian values and how far they’ve gotten us. But since religion is a personal thing and certainly not essential in building a learned, rational and moral society, it makes sense to leave this aspect of the intellect up to the individual.

We need to start promoting the literature and ideas of the true individualists – Ayn Rand, Henry Hazlitt, Frederich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, George Reisman and everyone else who has done as much for the promotion of the freedom of the individual, free capitalism and the inalienable rights of man to his own life and the property he needs to live.

I think the next four years will see a proliferation of a new right wing grass roots movement. Let’s beat the left at their own game. Audiences are already shifting away from the entrenched idiocy of the mainstream media and onto the internet. It’s time to start promoting reason on internet forums. Get onto forums frequented by the young and partake in their discussions about politics and ideology. Talk some sense into them! I do this all the time on places like Craigslist – defending capitalism almost obsessively and educating people about the nature of rights and why the left is wrong. It’s a hard and sometimes thankless task and I get a fair amount of abuse, but I’ve also had kids email me and tell me that I’ve changed their minds and ask me what books they should go and read to learn more. There’s no greater feeling. Get out there!

The trouble with the right is that most of us seem to be too busy in the world of wealth creation – you know, working hard and running businesses and employing people – to get into the kind of activism and devotion to causes that the left finds the time for. But make the time!

OK so I’m done. Typing away like a demented idiot to keep my mind off the atrocity which has occurred tonight. Sooner or later I’m going to have to stop and have a good old cry. I live on the Lower East Side of Manhattan and the street outside is full of screaming idiots and honking horns. Tonight, it’s even worse.

*sniff*

My apologies if this comes out with no paragraph breaks. I swear I put them in there but they’re not showing in the preview.

Sharke on November 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM

I beg to differ. The Clintons may be finished politically, aside from Hillary’s probable lifetime Senate seat, but Obama will take steps to polish that Bill Clinton legacy right up. Democrats, unlike Republicans, do not eat their own. They’ll never allow Clinton to go down in the history books as anything but a genius who brought roaring prosperity to America in the 90s. They’ll find some way to soft-shoe around that nasty welfare reform business, but within a year or so, Clinton will be inked into the history books as the visionary who made the glorious Obama ascension possible.

Doctor Zero on November 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Are you kidding? The dem’s make an art out of eating there own.

silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM

He will not abandon us.

Gina on November 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM

We just elected a man who approves of infanticide. We are the ones who have abandoned Him.

I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Choose life, then, that you and your descendants may live,

We chose poorly.

pannw on November 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM

On a happier note, W’s legacy is now secure. By this time next year, even Democrats will be missing him and remembering him (or at least his tax cuts) with fondness and nostalgia.

God bless and godspeed, Mr. President.

NTXLass on November 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Lets not eat our own, guys…we have to come together as Conservatives and Republicans and make sure this Democratic Domination of our government doesn’t last more than four years. My only consolation in all this is there are others like all of you out there that still believe in what America stands for. We can’t be divided anymore as a party. Solidify!
silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Silent, what are smoking? Hasn’t it sunk in yet why we lost? We didn’t lose because we were not “Big Tent” enough, we lost because we let the enemy into the tent!

Bikerken on November 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM

So let me get this straight. We are supposed to blame the MSM for are choice of candidates also? John McCain and Mitt Romney are two great guys but get real already hawkdriver.

LatinRed on November 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM

You get real. Follow media coverage of John McCain since 1999 running against George Bush.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Im with hawkdriver. I have a son in the Marines. Lets see how these democraps like the same treatment they have given Bush, McCain and Sarah Palin for a change.

jpsc1 on November 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM

Unwavering support for the troops while opposing every other thing they do. Everything. I don’t care if he comes up with a cure for a disease I get. Oppose him.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Unwavering support for the troops while opposing every other thing they do. Everything. I don’t care if he comes up with a cure for a disease I get. Oppose him.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM

I’ll wait breathlessly for The 0ne to support the troops with anything livlier than lip service. I hope someone has oxygen on standby.

NTXLass on November 5, 2008 at 12:53 AM

On a happier note, W’s legacy is now secure. By this time next year, even Democrats will be missing him and remembering him (or at least his tax cuts) with fondness and nostalgia.

God bless and godspeed, Mr. President.

NTXLass on November 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Afraid Not. These bastards have different plans for the man that kept us safe for 7 years.

I stand with President Bush regardless. Prosecute me too.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:54 AM

It is a shame that McCain had to be so negatively affected by events that manifested beyond his control. Many of which: high gas prices, poor economy, housing slump; were directly caused by a pitiful democrat congress.

sothinbelle on November 5, 2008 at 12:55 AM

It looks like a huge mandate. This is a big result. I think it is great that so many Americans came out for both parties. We will see if Obama is a centrist… many people voted for him because his message was positive and centrist. He will be out on his ass in four years if he isn’t. This is a great moment in American history. I thought both candidates made good speeches this evening.

lexhamfox on November 5, 2008 at 12:55 AM

This is a great moment in American history.

The beginning of the end is a great moment, indeed.

doodleduh on November 5, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Are you kidding? The dem’s make an art out of eating there own.

silentMajority on November 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Not at the presidential level… they write the history books, and they know how important it is to avoid having the electorate look back and see *any* Democrat president as a failure or embarrassment. That’s why they fought beyond the edge of reason to keep Clinton in office, instead of following the more honorable path Republicans took with Nixon. They know how much damage it did to the Republicans for a generation, to have Nixon as the poster boy for a failed presidency.

It’s still routine, in a popular culture consumed largely by people born fifteen years after Watergate, to see Nixon depicted as subhuman or demonic. With Obama safely elected, and the Clintons politically neutralized, there’s no reason for them to do anything but enshrine Bill Clinton as a glorious predecessor to the even more glorious Obama. They’re smart enough to hold their message discipline together on their presidents. They’ll have some highly entertaining and vicious squabbles for power below that level, but they’ll never do anything to make any past Democrat president seem like a liability to their future goals… unlike Republicans, who were making a cottage industry out of turning on Bush for media approval while the dust was still in the air from the World Trade Center.

Doctor Zero on November 5, 2008 at 1:00 AM

Bullshit you liberal weasle. You never even listened to them. And I have never seen you write a word about what Randie Rhoades …
hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM

Funny you mention Randie, she was kicked out of Air America Radio.

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Voter fraud part of the big picture tonight, if Deroy Murdock’s latest article is accurate – I hope they leave no stone unturned in getting to the bottom of this….

“GOP observers are calling in reports of multiple voting. People brazenly are coming in two or three times to vote,” he said, the exhaustion clear in his voice. “We may have an observer in one of every five or six precinct buildings, and they can see only so much. People are coming in where there are multiple registrations for the same address. Someone might say, ‘I’m Troy Jones at 123 Main Street,’ and then he’ll vote. Next, he will come back and say, ‘I’m Troy Jones, Jr. at 123 Main Street,’ then cast another ballot. Later on, a Troy Jones, Sr. registered at the same address gets to vote. This is why ACORN’s multiple registrations are such a problem.”

Sharke on November 5, 2008 at 1:03 AM

From Lexington to Kabul and from Concord to Tal Afar our ancestors and children have fought for something better…..

Don’t let your children’s children fight for less….

Garry Owen

Limerick on November 5, 2008 at 1:06 AM

I think John McCain is a genuine American hero, and deserves honor and credit. But I think we all knew he was a problem as a candidate. In 2000, he turned on and attacked what should have been a big part of his base: the Christian Right. During the Bush Administration, he constantly undermined his president and, again, his base.

If not for the choice of Sarah Palin as VP, he would never have done as well as he did.

theregoestheneighborhood on November 5, 2008 at 1:07 AM

I see Malstrom updated his blog and said his Toast
entry was all along just a contrarian argument.
Hillbuzz was a fraud and Rush was duped enough to read
from that Blog.

joest73 on November 5, 2008 at 1:16 AM

Funny you mention Randie, she was kicked out of Air America Radio.

mycowardice on November 5, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Not because of any of your protests.

But if you agree her spew was hate speech, lets get that old bipartisan spirit going and you and I can protest her 3 hours on these stations.

She is everything you said Hannity was.

I hope you’re ready for what you guys did to us. It’s on tomorrow.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 1:22 AM

Sharke on November 5, 2008 at 1:03 AM

The media would have to care. And all they cared about was electing the one.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 1:23 AM

Last comment, and then to bed.

McCain’s biggest single mistake was to run so hard from George W. Bush. Even though Bush’s approval rating was so low, and he was blamed for everything under the sun. All that was true in 2004, and Bush still won handily. Because he ran on conservative principles, even if he did compromise too much to keep liberals happy.

I’d venture to say that if Bush hadn’t already had his limit of terms, he could have won re-election again. When he actually campaigns, he defends his positions well and wins elections. McCain wound up never defending conservative positions, because he was trying to distance himself from George W. Bush.

Running from Bush caused him to never stand on principles, but try to sell himself as just a better and more experienced hand at the helm. That doesn’t sell.

Obama is a very sharp politician. It’s impressive that he was able to hide everything negative about himself long enough to get elected. But it will be a lot harder to hide those negatives when he’s president. The truth will out. It may get out before the inauguration.

theregoestheneighborhood on November 5, 2008 at 1:29 AM

Well, Looking at my County Results, at least I can stand to have to share my ‘space’ with most of them.
WE gave McCain 62% of our votes and 0bama only 36%
WE gave Steve Pearce(R) 61%
WE gave the Ed Tinsley(R)56%

Our Neighboring counties, to the West, where Hornet Sting lives, and all the rest to the east and south east did almost as well for the Republicans.

To the rest of the State: May you get the misery you deserve.

Hey, we are big enough and different enough politically and culturally from the rest of the state that we ought to just go ahead and split off and become either the 51st State….

Or maybe Texas can Annex us and we can become one of the New Free Territories.

LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 1:31 AM

We just elected a man who approves of infanticide. We are the ones who have abandoned Him.

I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Choose life, then, that you and your descendants may live,

We chose poorly.

pannw on November 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Of all the issues that I opposed Obama on, that one I think makes me the most sad for my country. This country just elected a guy who approves of sucking the brains out of a baby just inches away from taking his/her first breath.

I wonder if it’ll still be above his pay grade now? Me thinks not.

Yakko77 on November 5, 2008 at 2:12 AM

Or maybe Texas can Annex us and we can become one of the New Free Territories.

LegendHasIt on November 5, 2008 at 1:31 AM

Part of me wants Nebraska to come with you but I’m not done fighting for my country just yet. My loyalty and oath to defend my country didn’t end with my enlistment 10+ years ago. America lives on in my heart… even if she is dying all around me to the cheers of those who willing brought about her demise.

Yakko77 on November 5, 2008 at 2:15 AM

Part of me wants Nebraska to come with you but I’m not done fighting for my country just yet.

It’s over man.

Their America is not the America you know and love.

An islamo-marxist racist manchurian candidate is now our President.

It’s time to get a coalition of states together and secede from the Union.

It’s our only chance!

SaintOlaf on November 5, 2008 at 3:51 AM

The 2010 census is coming up and obama is planning to create new districts in democratic areas…which would give the democrats a super majority in both the house and the senate!

Combine that with all the illegal immigrants and ACORN and other fraudulent methods..

Think about it..with the redistricting and the voter fraud..this man could potentially be Dictator Supreme for the next eight years ( and if he tries to pull a Bill Clinton)…get Michelle O elected for another 8 years!

16 years in all..with a super majority in both the House and Senate!

Yes, America is finished. The Republican Party is finished.

America wouldn’t survive two years under Obama’s terrible policies anyway.

Even Joe Biden thinks it’d be more like six months before some major disaster happens because of obama.

SaintOlaf on November 5, 2008 at 6:18 AM

puke

marklmail on November 5, 2008 at 6:36 AM

Will be interesting to see what the First Lady of Anger does in her new role. What projects will she take on? What will she be an advocate of? Will she be able to contain her hatred for America or will she make a horrible gaffe when she goes on her first overseas trip. She doesn’t seem like the type to act classy, she is filled with too much resentment and anger.

sherry on November 5, 2008 at 7:56 AM

I’ll miss you, ManlyRash. You helped me have hope for a little while, and that’s not such a bad thing.

Now to start rebuilding our movement and our country.

Gina on November 5, 2008 at 9:21 AM

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