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Congratulations, Obama

posted at 11:37 pm on November 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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One of the last things Dean Barnett said to me was that, as best he could tell, Barack Obama is “a good guy and a decent man.” I don’t think he’d mind me telling you that, especially under the circumstances. It’s a testament to his generosity of spirit that even in the heat of a campaign, with every reason to think the worst of his opponent, Dean couldn’t help but give him the benefit of the doubt. That’s Barnett all over, and that’s what made him an indispensable man whom we’ve been forced, horrendously, to dispense with.

I offer that as comfort to those of you who have no faith in The One but who do have faith in, and abiding affection for, DB. My guess is he’d have handled the news tonight with the same magnanimity that distinguished all of his writing. So in that spirit, congratulations to Barry O on a race superbly run and to our country for not having let the wrong reasons deter it from making the wrong choice. I’ll never be a fan, but I swear I’ll never take a nutroots posture either in relishing his failures because it helps my party. Like it or not, he’s my president. As a great man once said, country first.


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usually i’m right with you, but here i worry that i may need to correct you. which “vile race-baiting assault” are you speaking of?

eh on November 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM

He’s talking about the rumours Rove spread in 2000 about McCain fathering an illegitimate black girl. In reality McCain had adopted her.

aengus on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM

Not. My. President.

Lesson learned: reaching across the aisle doesn’t win elections. Not when it entails compromising the convictions and principles of the people who look to you for leadership.

The Dems know this. That’s why they won.

Seriously, folks, do not lull yourselves into a false state of confidence that these are people that can be reasoned with, that are capable of, or even interested in, being fair, are capable of putting aside their differences to work towards concensus’s or are willing or even capable of compromise.

They are not. They never will be, and we have no reason to believe, based on their behavior over the last eight years, that they will be any more gracious in victory than they were in defeat. These are people who’s vindictiveness knows no bounds and will wield their power as a cudgel with which to bludgeon all opposition.

For now, we will suffer, but we must endure and we will endure. They’ve pretty much cleaned the last of the manure out of our stable for us, now we must finish hosing down the barn. We must regroup, re-focus, and return to our roots: that of a reform party, as rest assured, one will be needed to clean up the mess they’re about to make of Our Country.

We have a new objective: rebuild, reshape, and modernize our party’s apparatus. They beat us in the ground game. We have to work on that. We need more boots on the ground. A more concerted grassroots effort to re-build the party and revive the conservatism that brought us victory in the past.
We must expand our base, ideally at the expense of their’s. There are conservative Dems out there. Out there in America, certainly not on Capitol Hill, but out there, in the factories and farms, in small brick-and-mortar buisnesses, and elsewhere. We must present the conservative argument that their future is not with the Dems but with us. We must persuade the Independent conservative as well. We must enlarge our base. We must reach out to the youth of America and make them understand the importance of self-relience, liberty, and the rewards of hard work in a free market society. We will need to find a means by which to neutralize the opposition’s more underhanded methods of securing victory and we must also neutralize the old media establishment bias. We must define our movement and our party in a way that resonates strongly enough with the public that they cannot and will not be persuaded by lies, intimidation and hatchet-job journalism.

We also have a deadline: Election Day 2010. In sports, they’d call it a “Circle Game”, the big one that you work and train most dilligently for, because it’s the game that absolutely must be won.

SuperCool on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM

Slavery has to be abolished from without! Aside from romatic notions about Spartacus, there was never a successful “Slave Revolt” that I’m aware of, except maybe in Haiti!!

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM

good point.

unseen on November 5, 2008 at 2:11 AM

what’s wrong with macheavelli?

eh on November 5, 2008 at 2:00 AM

…nothing…quotable…but, as used by Mr. Beard, it has a certain negative cache, n’cest pas?

…America is not the victim…yet…but, the day is young…give him a chance…he has the makings of a first class villain….

Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 2:11 AM

Well, I’m getting to bed.

And I’ll start praying that Obama doesn’t meet the business end of a 30.06.

Ryan Gandy on November 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM

I can only count three good things out of this election (four in Norm Coleman holds on to beat Franken):

1. The emergence of Sarah Palin onto the national scene. A new star for the Republicans in four years.

2. The defeat of the Clintons. They will be on the outside looking in for the next four and probably eight years. I hope by then we won’t be looking back with a longing after having to suffer through the years of The One.

3. The defeat of the mushy centerists of the Republican party, or the Repubicans as Mark Levin has named them. Perhaps now the GOP can get back to conservative principles of working for lower taxes, lower spending, smaller government, strong defense.

Lord,tonight sucks the big one.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM

No! You didn’t. Give us the links to your proof. Not your wild eyed ranting.

Be a man. Give us the links to back up your claims. Anything less is a cop out of the first degree.

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Did you forget your helmet and fall down and knock your head?

How do you get out the Cheetos stains from your fingers?

Sigh……….

C’mon, you go by the nickname of “Chimpy” for god’s sake!

How can anyone take you seriously!

There is a reason that Homo Sapiens such as me, are superior to Pan troglodytes such as yourself!

When it rains outside, I go inside my house!

You, sit out in the rain, and hold a leaf over your head!

All my posts about you, and Obama, have been PROVEN!

End. Of. Discussion!

And the one thing I needed to “prove”; I included two links, just for you!

Of course, you were not savvy enough to pick up on that.

PS: can you post your Home Address in your next post for me? I’ll jump you ahead 600,000 years on the evolutionary scale, I’ll UPS you an Umbrella!

Moron!

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM

I asked for links to back up your claims and like a child you avoided that with an immature rant.

WHERE ARE THE LINKS!

A graduate from the Acme School for Super Geniuses could provide the links.
What about you?

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 2:14 AM

Well, I’m getting to bed.

And I’ll start praying that Obama doesn’t meet the business end of a 30.06.

Ryan Gandy on November 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM

Why do you think Joe Biden’s nickname is “assassination insurance”?

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:14 AM

890 comments in, somebody’s prob’ly said this already, but at the risk of repetition:

I for one welcome our new Neo-Marxist Obalords.

soundingboard on November 5, 2008 at 2:15 AM

we need a blog that tracks every vote in the next congress. to use agains thtese dems. They lie. It is during the 2009 year they will be the most liberal. We must track and note every liberal vote them make esp for the southern people. Then in 2010 we deliver all those votes in ads we attack the “conservative dems” first in the south. They have run on lies. They will work with Peolosi. We must watch them. We must be prepared to run good quaility conservative canidates in all there districts.

unseen on November 5, 2008 at 2:19 AM

PS:

Popular vote 62,040,610 Bubh 59,028,444 Kerry

Popular vote totals from the 2004 Presidential Election.

These are the lastest numbers from tonight:

56,882,902 Obama 51,720,943 McCain

Based upon the percentages I see, there is NOT another 7 million votes popular votes out there, to count.

Obama will NOT reach Kerry’s number.

And McCain will fall 10 MILLION votes short of Bush’s in 2004!

So, all this crap about “historic” turn out, etc., is Bull crap.

As well as Hispanics and Young people and Blacks being the Difference Makers for Obama!

Bottomline, just like the 2006 Mid-Term elections, the Republicans and the Conservatives STAYED HOME!

If McCain had energized the base, had attacked Obama more on things such as Wright, and being a Marxist, which he is; and had a Get out the Vote campaign, to rival Bush’s in 2004; he could’ve won this thing.

But he really is an adilpated ass!

But the pre-election hype about historic turnout and the post-election hype about why Obama won, is just plain crap!

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:19 AM

A graduate from the Acme School for Super Geniuses could provide the links.
What about you?

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 2:14 AM

HOME ADDRESS…NOW!

The Umbrella and Pamprin are waiting!

PS: if you can’t find the links that I posted, and I did post two links for you, then if proves EVERY point I’ve said about you!

What a tool!

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

We must be respectful of the office. It’s over, the American people have spoken.

nazo311 on November 5, 2008 at 2:00 AM

…I must be nothing…except what I deem appropriate for me to be….

…that’s not churlishness, mind…that’s a bit of that independent American spirit…as is the “leave me alone” limits built into our beloved Constitution….

…and, as to respecting the Presidency, since when has it stopped being a stepping stone to secular immortality and a nice memorial somewhere among the traffic islands of the District of Columbia? Since when have the men serving in that office been as respectful as we among the electorate are tutored to be? Was Mr. Clinton respectful of it while he was being seen to in the hall closet? Was Mr. Kennedy, as he was…well…I could go on….

Can we really expect Mr. Obama to be respectful of he office, when his whole campaign has ridden to power on a vague promise of changing and rearranging all and sundry? No, for that one I expect the Presidency to be a tool to do other people’s thinking for them, and later, when his mistakes are revealed to him, to get even.

…I have no happy expectations, you see….

Respect doesn’t come with an office. It comes from performance, and Mr. O’s resume is thin in that department…so, pardon me if I’m less than optimistic.

The people have indeed spoken…now, let them watch and listen…it should prove instructive….

Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

Well, after reading through some of the past few pages of posts – been gaming to take my mind off the situation, my usual solution when I need a stress reliever – I’d like to affirm that I’m not going anywhere. I’ll be sticking around as a reader, commenter, and contributor.

I wish some of our departing fellows would do the same.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

Well on my third glass of Merlot and you know it dawned on me, this tool is going to try and govern straight down the middle. He is straight out of the Clinton mold. Popularity above all. It does not mean that he is a non partisan, he is simply going to try to please everyone and with the media’s help he may well succeed.

He is shrewd enough to not support gays openly serving in the military. Why? The military would hate him AND Florida Arizona and maybe (not all precints have reported)California have approved bans on gay marriage. When California rejects gay marriage that is a clear symbol the country is not going to swallow a Presidential endorsement of homosexuality via gays openly serving in the military. A small comfort but a reliable one. The One has mis made hisw entire career from moving from one office to the next responsibility and political courage are not in him. He will strive only for popularity. We know what that looks like, Bill Clinton.

He will try liberal policies. It ma be in the Republicans best interest to let him have his way. Nothing days put Republicans back in charge like not submitting any earmarks and letting economy destroyin policies pass the Senate. Let Obama burn it down. Voters will hold the party in charge responsible. PArty line votes in the House and let the destructive policies get thorough with the minimum Republican votes neccesary to pass the legislation. Let Obama balloon the deficit. The nuclear card, play it. Let Obama burn it down. Defecit spending, American debt worthless on the world market, a new deal finanied on a dollar that is collapsing in value… America will rue its mistake. As long as the Republicans do not telegraph thier punches Obama will set himself up for failure. America needs to know what sicialism feels like, what it does to the economy, what it does to gun rights, what it does to the moral fabric of the nation…

Theworldisnotenough on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

He’s talking about the rumours Rove spread in 2000 about McCain fathering an illegitimate black girl. In reality McCain had adopted her.

aengus on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM

there’s zero evidence that any such thing occurred.

eh on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

…I think your new friend has a formed a crush…let him down gently….

Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM

Senator Obama, you will soon be my President. Unlike many liberals I know, I will not treat you with the disrespect they showed President Bush, I will call you my President.

That said, how do you intend to govern? You ran as a concept greater then yourself, as an embodiment of all that people would wish to place upon you. You were the hope and promise of change, but now it is time to govern. I wonder how many you will disappoint.

amazingmets on November 5, 2008 at 2:23 AM

Popularity above all. It does not mean that he is a non partisan, he is simply going to try to please everyone and with the media’s help he may well succeed.

I agree that he is as malleable a politician as I have seen. The libs paranoia fears about Cheney controlling Bush will actually play out with Obama. I fear who will be the one controlling The One?

The One has mis made hisw entire career from moving from one office to the next responsibility and political courage are not in him.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:25 AM

I will never be happy nor accept this cheater. I will never give this man the benefit of the doubt. I will never surrender my principles nor convictions. This country has ended. God help me. He alone has the answers. I believe His will, will be done. It hurts!

Mercy4Me on November 5, 2008 at 2:25 AM

ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Please don’t leave . We need people like you. Hell I need people like you. I need you to be the inspiration for 2010 2012.

Gracelynn on November 5, 2008 at 2:26 AM

The One has mis made hisw entire career from moving from one office to the next responsibility and political courage are not in him.

Has Barry ever held a job for four years? What will he do when he gets restless in a year and a half and realizes that there are no other offices to run for?

Let Obama burn it down.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:26 AM

…I think your new friend has a formed a crush…let him down gently….

Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM

You’re correct; he’s a typical Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Delusional Traitor Democratic Leftist Nutbag!

They suffer from “Relfexive Surrender Syndrome”; which is where at the first sign of danger, or even if someone talks sternly to them, they drop their trousers, jacknife themselves into a “U”-shape, grab their ankles, and scream “Take me, I’m yours”!

Then, they always seem shocked, when they actually get violated!

Typical, foolish, Leftist!

Unfortunately, “Chimpy” mistakes discipline with “love”, and he does have a crush on me now!

I’m soon going to have to give him the lecture that just because I was “intimate” with him, doesn’t mean I actually “Love” him!

Sigh….it’s difficult with these young foolish pups…

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:27 AM

Will we ever learn about REDACTED?

Kini on November 5, 2008 at 12:01 AM

soundingboard on November 5, 2008 at 2:27 AM

Aslans Girl on November 5, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Good to see you posting again, Aslans Girl…don’t you wish you could go to the Wood between the Worlds right about now?

Then again, perhaps BO is really from Charn .

-Wanderlust

Wanderlust on November 5, 2008 at 12:17 AM

Got tears in my eyes, Wanderlust, because you’re right, I’d rather be just about anywhere right now. I’m actually reading the Magician’s Nephew right now to my two nephews… I’ll be reading the whole series yet again, as I always find myself doing in times of crises.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on November 5, 2008 at 2:28 AM

ManlyRash on November 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Please don’t leave . We need people like you. Hell I need people like you. I need you to be the inspiration for 2010 2012.

Gracelynn on November 5, 2008 at 2:26 AM

Yea Manly, don’t cut and run. That is a dimocrat tactic.

la.rt.wngr on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM

When California rejects gay marriage that is a clear symbol the country is not going to swallow a Presidential endorsement of homosexuality via gays openly serving in the military.

These folks see this election as a mandate. I don’t, think they care about public opinion. Prop 8 will get kicked out like so much garbage. They’ll say the American People have spoken about everything “except” that anomaly.

God, what this means to me is half of America really doesn’t care about her military or winning the GWOT.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM

Can’t let this thread stop on 911 comments

AMartinez on November 5, 2008 at 2:30 AM

I am getting tired. I keep hitting submit before I am done.

Let Obama burn it down.

Theworldisnotenough on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

I had the same thought. Let the country have what they have voted for. After a period of time, people will realize that the liberals will not be able to blame President Bush anymore and it will be on their heads.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:30 AM

Obama got what he was chasing after: history and the enduring legacy of being our first black president. What will happen when he wakes up and realizes he actually has to govern?

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:32 AM

Lations and blacks abandoned the rep party.

unseen on November 5, 2008 at 2:08 AM

really? they abandoned us. that formulation leaves me speechless. the thing is, i remember the difference between the latino gop vote from 2004 to 2006 – before and after our beloved base of “not the highly educated” became overcome with border enforcement derangement.

“…not the highly educated…”

truely a movement to be proud of.

eh on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

Honestly How much media will we need to survive. When the same interviews are given to the same channels do we need ABC, CBS or NBC or why not Fox? When we have one “American” channel” for news why do we need other media?

I am not angry at Barack as the american people. What the hell is wrong with this country?

Gracelynn on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

He’s talking about the rumours Rove spread in 2000 about McCain fathering an illegitimate black girl. In reality McCain had adopted her.

aengus on November 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM

there’s zero evidence that any such thing occurred.

eh on November 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM

I’m not making any claims. I’m telling you what The Race Card is most likely talking about. Take it up with him.

aengus on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

Here is the lib chance to show us what they can do. They have all the power.

Good nite all.

la.rt.wngr on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

They suffer from “Relfexive Surrender Syndrome”; which is where at the first sign of danger, or even if someone talks sternly to them, they drop their trousers, jacknife themselves into a “U”-shape, grab their ankles, and scream “Take me, I’m yours”!…

Sigh….it’s difficult with these young foolish pups…

Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:27 AM

…new rule: no prison porn this late at night….

…if you can’t fumigate, ignore the sandfleas….

…that’s the pesky thing about free speech…so very often, it arrives first, while self-discipline and judgment are found to have taken a later train….

…well…Markos over at DailyME is probably chortling into a giddy fit right about now…about how this shows that people like himself and your new cellmate are really the baseline of the nation…let them gloat…it’ll come as that much more of a surprise when it hits ‘em…as it will all of us…that they didn’t get the guy they thought they got….

Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

AP, cut the bi-partisan crap. This business of attempting to take the high road and/or congratulating the guy that we’ve called every name in the book and attempted to destroy is way overrated and transparent. Oh, I suppose this moment of pause is supposed to be a feel-good, let bygones be bygones moment? Well I am not so amused. We just lost to a fatally flawed candidate because of this type of nonsense. As Mr. Miyagi once said…

“Daniel Son, LOOK EYE, ALWAYS LOOK EYE!”

The Dems didn’t let up on us for twenty seconds since 2002 and I am not about to start giving them an inch to breathe.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 2:34 AM

Using Dean to cover your gloating isn’t classy. There was absolutely no reason to use a deceased person’s words to make your religious point of turning the other check, from a religion you don’t believe in I might add.

He’s the President and I’m not going to say anything nasty. But I don’t want to listening to a lying word he says for the next 4 years. How you think a person who has no problems looking you in the face and bold-face lie to you is an honorable & decent person is beyond me. I have another definition for those two words.

Sultry Beauty on November 5, 2008 at 2:34 AM

What is it Bette Davis said?

“Fasten your seatbelts, it’s going to be a bumpy ride”

God, that I lived to see America do this to itself….oh well. Time to up the meds.

Duane1947 on November 5, 2008 at 2:37 AM

“Daniel Son, LOOK EYE, ALWAYS LOOK EYE!”

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 2:34 AM

Yes. He looked him in the eye, and bowed respectfully.

How about you follow the example you cite?

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:43 AM

I was ready to heave something at the TV when Barry started talking about the need to end the bitter partisan divide in our country. And which party has lead that charge for 8 f**king years! Pompous hypocrite. Who was it that called Bill Clinton and John McCain racists? But now it is time to end the bitter partisanship. He’s a freakin’ joke.

This is one of the first times I have been truly disappointed in the American People. I hope in two years my faith will be restored and there will be a shift in Congress, a la 1994.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:44 AM

The Left was right: BDS got them what they wanted. Only ODS on our side will get us gains in two years. It seems the American people listen to those who keep harping on the administration. Of course, conservatives will never be as vile as they were because that’s just not part of our DNA, but we do need to be as nasty as possible and not give an inch, like when we fought Clinton (we weren’t vile, we were persistent and tough), only more. We need investigations into ACORN and illegal foreign donations. Tie up the gov’t with investigations (if we have the numbers in congress to call for them of course) so that not much else can get accomplished by this Marxist. This is all for our beloved, if misguided, country’s sake. We must fight. Because I know that once socialism’s in, it’s very hard to kick out, but this is my hope for now.

-Aslan’s Girl (proud NUMA)

Aslans Girl on November 5, 2008 at 2:46 AM

Yes. He looked him in the eye, and bowed respectfully.

How about you follow the example you cite?

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:43 AM

I understand your sentiment, but there is a flaw in the analogy. In a match, it is expected that both participants will perform honorably, honestly, to the best of their abilities. And for THAT respect is given. Respect is not given for a lying and cheating opponent that knowingly smears your reputation and beliefs.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:49 AM

Sign of the Dollar on November 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM

Yes, that’s just what I was thinking. Did the US president in 1917 contact Lenin to congratulate him for taking over Russia? How about when Castro took over Cuba? Our presidents have a tradition of contacting newly elected world leaders, but I doubt we did in those above mentioned circumstances. I will not congratulate a Commie for winning in my country, probably illegaly on top of it (foreign donations, ACORN, etc).

-Aslan’s Girl (proud NUMA)

Aslans Girl on November 5, 2008 at 2:51 AM

I understand your sentiment, but there is a flaw in the analogy. In a match, it is expected that both participants will perform honorably, honestly, to the best of their abilities. And for THAT respect is given. Respect is not given for a lying and cheating opponent that knowingly smears your reputation and beliefs.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:49 AM

According to a lot of the same commenters who are refusing to recognize Obama as the next president of their nation, that’s the name of the game, baby. Gotta be harsh. It’s a knife fight.

In other words, stupid crap rationalization to excuse the fact that they’re acting just like the whiny crybabies from 00 and 04.

They need to make up their minds. If politics is a dirty game, then Obama played it well. If not, then take the high road.

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:51 AM

Mallard T. Drake-

+1.

You do not bow to a snake, however nice its eyes may be.

profitsbeard on November 5, 2008 at 2:52 AM

I’d like to see President Bush as he is leaving office in January say something to the effect of “Just so the American people know, the Democrats spent $??? million on investigations and witch hunts on my administration and got NOTHING. That is where your tax dollars have gone. Good luck and may God bless you, cuz you are really going to need it.”

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:53 AM

PS: if you can’t find the links that I posted, and I did post two links for you, then if proves EVERY point I’ve said about you!
Dale in Atlanta on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

I didn’t comment on your links because the first one was conjecture.

Like Pipes you have no facts just assumptions, insinuation and rumors. Did you, at Obama’s age, have a say in your religious upbringing? Didn’t you question or doubt when you reached the age of wisdom. Oh, I almost forgot who I was addressing.

I am familiar with Catholic schools back then. The nun’s would have beat the Islam out of him if it were there in the first place which I seriously doubt because of his age.

So give me a link to any story about Obama belonging to a Mosque in the last 30 years.

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

So how many people have been banned so far as a result of this thread?

CanadianGuy on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

According to a lot of the same commenters who are refusing to recognize Obama as the next president of their nation,

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:51 AM

I think you can show respect for the office of the President , if not the occupant. Personally, if loathe the Clintons. Out of respect for their offices, I refer to them as President and Senator. But they have shown me no reason to respect them as people or politicians. The same goes for Barry.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

really? they abandoned us. that formulation leaves me speechless. the thing is, i remember the difference between the latino gop vote from 2004 to 2006 – before and after our beloved base of “not the highly educated” became overcome with border enforcement derangement.

“…not the highly educated…”

truely a movement to be proud of.

eh on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

Well maybe if the “highly educated” didn’t call the base racists” because we wanted border security maybe the Latinos would not have assumed we did not want them. Maybe if the highly educated instead of playing race warfare between its base and the latino population to try to keep its indentured servants and instead stood for the idea that the rule of law will apply to all people regradless of color. That the governemtn would and should do its job of border security then maybe the latino CITZENS would have rallied to the rep party. Instead of the highly educated giving the Latinos every reason to think the rep party was full of racist people. It could have reached out to the latinos and explained why an open border and lawless immigration policy was a bad deal for them. How it allows CEO and wealth people to mistreat them, how by securing the border, and enforcing immigration laws they would benifit from higher wages, safer working conditions, less fear, coming out of the shadows.

Maybe if the highly educated would have painterd the immigration issue as the 2007 form of modern day slavery and promised to end it. And to bnever allow it to happen again maybe the Latinos would have flocked to the party like the blacks of the 1960’s flocked to the dems.

Instead our “highly educated” did everything it could to continue the sick and disgusting practice of illegal immigration. Some did it for votes some for money. And at the end of the day 80% of the America people rebelled against it.

LAw and order, the law applied to everyone the same regardless of rich or poor, citizen or not.

unseen on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

Senator Obama, you will soon be my President. Unlike many liberals I know, I will not treat you with the disrespect they showed President Bush, I will call you my President.

amazingmets on November 5, 2008 at 2:23 AM

And this is why we will never win again.

angryed on November 5, 2008 at 2:58 AM

Dale

And those other links to the myriad of accusations you made in your first or second post to me. Still avoiding those?

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 2:59 AM

Ok it is over for now, It is time to start building momentum for 2012. Palin is the real thing and the future of the Republican party. Get behind her and Fred? Jindal.

Sven on November 5, 2008 at 12:11 AM

And I really liked me some Fred!.

Piyush is the new Hussein.

soundingboard on November 5, 2008 at 2:59 AM

I think you can show respect for the office of the President , if not the occupant. Personally, if loathe the Clintons. Out of respect for their offices, I refer to them as President and Senator. But they have shown me no reason to respect them as people or politicians. The same goes for Barry.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

The Clintons had their chance and squandered it. I am willing to give the guy a chance. Who knows what might happen?

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:00 AM

I just woke up… *yawning*… uh, yeah, drifted off this afternoon. Boy, was I beat. Still kinda groggy. Hmm hmm cough. I wonder what time it is? I can’t really see the clock. Well, anyways, we got election day tommorow, huh? *Stretches his arms and yawns*. So, uh, who do you think’ll win? I sure hope it’s not Obama. That would take the country in the wrong direction.

apacalyps on November 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM

Plowshares into Swords for 2012 #1:
  

Everybody put the current misery index on their opening web pages and keep it updated
(somebody wanna write a google gadget to do this??)
  

SEP 2008 Misery Index: 11.04%
(inflation added to unemployment)
  

I think we can rely on the new president to push the misery index up before he even takes office as the investigations begin and word of his economic and spending plans begins to affect the markets. If he keeps his promises, the misery index should exceed Carter’s (see below).
  

Carter rode the Misery Index into and OUT of office. I remember that by the second half of Carter’s administration the networks (ony 3 at the time, and they were real journalists compared to today) showed the misery index almost every night.
  

From Wikipedia: During the Presidential campaign of 1976, Democratic candidate, Jimmy Carter, made frequent references to the Misery Index, which by the summer of 1976 was at 13.57%. Carter stated that no man responsible for giving a country a misery index that high, had a right to even ask to be President. Carter won the 1976 election. However, by 1980, when President Carter was running for re-election against Ronald Reagan, the Misery Index had reached an all-time high of 21.98%. Carter lost the election to Reagan.

  
We did it then, we can do it again – and the Misery Index almost always helps republicans.

ElRonaldo on November 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM

I’d like to see President Bush as he is leaving office in January say something to the effect of “Just so the American people know, the Democrats spent $??? million on investigations and witch hunts on my administration and got NOTHING. That is where your tax dollars have gone. Good luck and may God bless you, cuz you are really going to need it.”

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:53 AM

I’d prefer a massive airstrike against Iran on, say, Jan. 19, and a “Here’s that “challenge” for ya, Obama. Good luck with all that, I’m outta here!”

While scratching his nose in manner that resembles an obscene gesture…

SuperCool on November 5, 2008 at 3:04 AM

We gotta get congress back so we can drag all that acorn scum, bring in all the credit card fraud papers and impeach this dog’s ass.

LtE126 on November 5, 2008 at 3:04 AM

Hey sorry y’all the Merlot destroyed my typing skills. My last post was almost incoherent. Let Obama burn it down was the only quotable portion. Heh.

For those of you in the San Diego area my dad is participating in the KGB chili cookoff. If you show up I’m the OBVIOUS black conservative. See you there and vote for my dad’s chili!

Theworldisnotenough on November 5, 2008 at 3:05 AM

Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM

Puritan, I’m glad you’re posting tonight. I used to love reading your posts and lately haven’t seen you as much as I’d like. Your posts are the Truth, depressing yes, but Truth.

I was born in 1979 so the Weatherman were before my time, but I heard of them. To me, they were a defeated enemy who hadn’t accomplished the evil they set out to do. Now, I’ve learned that this was all part of the plan. The video from the ’70s of the interview with the Russian who defected (it has been linked here many times lately) whose name escapes me, is truly frightening. It happened in Russia, it happened in Cuba, it happened in Venezeula, it must not happen here. We cannot let the ’60s radicals take over the country. We must keep fighting. So long as we still have Rush and Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulter, and Mark Steyn to articulate our views, there’s hope. And pray. Hard. And hope that 2010 is 1994 all over again.

-Aslan’s Girl (proud NUMA)

Aslans Girl on November 5, 2008 at 3:05 AM

So how many people have been banned so far as a result of this thread?

CanadianGuy on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

Not enough.

okonkolo on November 5, 2008 at 3:06 AM

Not enough.

okonkolo on November 5, 2008 at 3:06 AM

too many. if you want to a obama lapdog enjoy

unseen on November 5, 2008 at 3:07 AM

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on November 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM

Look over there, I say while sharing a bite.

soundingboard on November 5, 2008 at 3:12 AM

Yes. He looked him in the eye, and bowed respectfully.

How about you follow the example you cite?

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 2:43 AM

Apparently, you do not understand the reference. The point is that, now isn’t the time to play nice and “take your eye off the ball”. Had I thought the example through fully, and remembered the respectful bowing crap, I would have chosen a different reference.

Let’s try again. We’re in the movie “The Untouchables”. You’re the guy that’s been crossing Capone. Now you’re at his table fake-laughing at his jokes, nodding at his rhetoric and “honoring” him. While you hope your brains don’t get splattered on the white tablecloth, I will be out recruiting some reliable folks to avoid the same fate.

Regardless if you like or want to pick my references apart the fact remains that, President or not, the congratulatios is transparent. Maybe you didn’t watch television this evening. He doesn’t need our congratulations. We need to figure out how to defeat this guy in 4 years without all of the ammunition we had on him this time. If people didn’t care enough about the seemingly insurmountable pile of dirt we had this go-round, and people are sobbing like babies due to his victory, what makes you think this pause for respect and honor is a worthwhile exercise. Gimme a break. This “above the fray” stuff is so pre-BDS. Lead, follow, or get out of the way! Just don’t tell me to bow at His altar on the journey. He didn’t deserve to win; period.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:18 AM

unseen on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM

boy are you cynical. luckily, i don’t have to wear the drawers you shit in.

…at the end of the day 80% of the America people rebelled against it.

really? that’s why the “open borders” democrats swept the election last night. after doing the same in 2006.

you can’t pull such a line of horseshit off convincingly.

eh on November 5, 2008 at 3:23 AM

about how this shows that people like himself and your new cellmate are really the baseline of the nation…let them gloat…
Puritan1648 on November 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM

Where was I gloating? Comprehension problem like Dale?

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 3:25 AM

This “above the fray” stuff is so pre-BDS. Lead, follow, or get out of the way! Just don’t tell me to bow at His altar on the journey. He didn’t deserve to win; period.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:18 AM

So we follow up BDS with ODS?

What exactly does that accomplish apart from satisfying your and others’ childish vindictiveness and bitterness about loss?

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:27 AM

childish vindictiveness and bitterness

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:27 AM

No, Chomsky. This is not about vindictiveness and bitterness. We’ve just decided to skip the ticker tape parade. He has plenty in his flock. We’re in the corner of the ring getting iced for the next round. Sheesh.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:31 AM

Well, I know there’s going to be many high-fives and overjoyed gloating tomorrow at work, based on the remarks I’ve heard all year about the current administration and the McCain campaign…

But I wonder how all of my oh-so-enlightened co-workers will feel about the new president when they learn in a week or so that due directly to his election, about a quarter of them will lose their jobs due to my employer’s concern about higher taxes and yet more oppressive government regulations. (Prior to the election, I was asked to put together a list of all of our employees’ information to prepare for a layoff in anticipation of the Democrats winning the White House. I was told that it was due directly to fears that the cost of doing business would skyrocket under the new leadership.)

“Be careful what you wish for” is an especially apt admonition these days.

Peachy on November 5, 2008 at 3:32 AM

No, Chomsky.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:31 AM

Like I said, childish bitterness. Next time, take a look around the site and know a bit more about me before you label me in so ludicrous a manner.

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:36 AM

What a nightmare!

SaintOlaf on November 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM

I think Allah gives The One too much credit. A squirrel could have been elected this time round if it was a D with over 1/2 a billion dollars in election funds, a fawning media who demonized opposition, and a toxic incumbent party. It was almost inevitable that a D would win this go round. I think Snobama’s biggest challenge this go round was defeating Hillary. That done it was smooth sailing.

Tacitus on November 5, 2008 at 3:39 AM

I’ve got nothing to add or say. I just want to be a part of a thread that cracks a thousand.

SteakRules on November 5, 2008 at 3:39 AM

So we follow up BDS with ODS?

Now that I’ve been reflecting, how would ODS be the wrong medicine?

What’s good for the goose….
When in Rome….
What goes around….

Oh wait, that’s too vindictive!

Fight fire with….a very stern olive branch that will display that stark differences of ideology that our opponent has, my friends.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:40 AM

Has Barry ever held a job for four years? What will he do when he gets restless in a year and a half and realizes that there are no other offices to run for?

Let Obama burn it down.

Mallard T. Drake on November 5, 2008 at 2:26 AM

Haven’t you heard? They kept the Greek Columns and are preparing a crown.

N4646W on November 5, 2008 at 3:42 AM

If the left unconvincingly accuses the opposition of ODS, (there are “over the top” pundits on both sides), I’ll be the first to accuse them of OCS, Obama Cult Syndrome.

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 3:43 AM

What’s good for the goose….
When in Rome….
What goes around….

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:40 AM

Or, in plainer terms, “My turn to be the whiny hateful loser!”

Own up. You spent eight years wishing the idiots would shut up, and now you’re gleefully becoming one of them. You’re a total hypocrite.

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:44 AM

Well, a decisive victory for Obama, even though it makes me cringe. I just hope he doesn’t go as far left as his past and present associations suggest that he will. If he does, he’s bound to have a one-term presidency. I also hope that his term doesn’t end like JFK’s did, which I am concerned could happen if he does go too far left. It doesn’t look like he’ll have a fillbuster-proof congress (although close to one), so maybe the GOP can slow him down a little.

On the brighter side, the GOP needs to learn from this and come back fighting with a coherent counter-message, ready for 2010 and 2012. We did it in 1994 after Clinton was elected and it worked out pretty well.

mark88hosting on November 5, 2008 at 3:44 AM

I think the country just elected Captain Queeg as it’s president tonight. I can’t wait till the strawberries go missing.

trigon on November 5, 2008 at 3:48 AM

what we need to do as a party is beat up on gays and mexicans more intensely. we need more crosses, and we need to revise the whole message so that everything about conservatism can fit on a single bumper sticker. its only when we dillute ourselves with RINOs that we lose.

eh on November 5, 2008 at 3:49 AM

Like I said, childish bitterness. Next time, take a look around the site and know a bit more about me before you label me in so ludicrous a manner.

MadisonConservative on November 5, 2008 at 3:36 AM

I could care less who you are. I know you from now and you sound like a big ole’ floppy ____ that’s from a reliably blue state. You have the reflexes of a RINO. Your pause and thoughtful rearming is enough for me to know that I wouldn’t even want you on my kickball team. If your rebuttal is how you wouldn’t want to have me on your _____; don’t worry, I am not volunteering.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 3:52 AM

100% blame for this loss goes to Karl Rove.

He has some sort of bitter rivalry with Mccain….he never wanted him to win.

Where we tripped up: we listened to Karl Rove when he said DON’T play the muslim card against Barack Hussein Obama….even though it is a proven successful tactic against obama and true to boot.

SaintOlaf on November 5, 2008 at 3:55 AM

OT: Franken leads Coleman by 2200 votes with 98% reporting. This night is truly the gift that just keeps on giving.

trigon on November 5, 2008 at 3:55 AM

I want to be the first Hotair blogger to swear my allegiance to our new dear leader and most kind and awesome overlord, Obama praised be thy name.

All that stuff I said earlier was just to blend in with these infidel capitalist pigs at hotair.

Take them, they are the ones you want.

/s

TheSitRep on November 5, 2008 at 3:58 AM

eh on November 5, 2008 at 3:49 AM

That should help the parties image. /sarc
I hope you just forgot the sarcasm tag.

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 4:00 AM

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 4:00 AM

hard to tell, ain’t it?

i’d like to convince myself that these commenters are just internet toughguys, but the assholes barking during mccains concession speech…

eh on November 5, 2008 at 4:02 AM

I’ll never be a fan, but I swear I’ll never take a nutroots posture either in relishing his failures because it helps my party. Like it or not, he’s my president. As a great man once said, country first.

Well said, AllahP and DB, it’s time to be grown up about it.

As conservatives, we failed. The GOP is broken.
A a Californian, I know, ever since RWR, we deliver an easy base of 54 EVs to the Donks. What the hell?
Like MM has said, it’s time to suck it up, gird our loins, and commit to our beliefs and principles, and get to work.

I apologize to everyone here for the childish liberal state of my state, California. I’m sorry.

silverfox on November 5, 2008 at 4:03 AM

Franken down to 1400 lead.

Levinite on November 5, 2008 at 4:06 AM

eh on November 5, 2008 at 4:02 AM

I hear you loud and clear.

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 4:06 AM

What is the deal with CNN not calling Georgia for Chambliss? Does Georgia require a runoff if a candidate doesn’t get 50%?

Mark1971 on November 5, 2008 at 4:08 AM

Chimpy on November 5, 2008 at 4:00 AM

hard to tell, ain’t it?

i’d like to convince myself that these commenters are just internet toughguys, but the assholes barking during mccains concession speech…

eh on November 5, 2008 at 4:02 AM

Come find out. Fayetteville. Market square. You pick the time.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 4:08 AM

Come find out. Fayetteville. Market square. You pick the time.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 4:08 AM

And bring your monkey.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2008 at 4:09 AM

Look at the bright side, people. In one year, the political careers of the Clintons, as well as that of RINO Juan Syed McCain have been ended. As far as the GOP goes, we can look at cleansing it and re-populating it with real Conservatives. My only regret is seeing Gov Palin on a losing ticket, but I don’t see it as her fault – it was too early for her anyway.

If we get this done fast enough, and assuming Obama does what Clinton did in 1993, we can look at recapturing Congress in 2010. If we do, Obama would be as ineffective in promoting the Liberal agenda as Clinton was since 1995.

infidelpride on November 5, 2008 at 4:22 AM

The will of the majority has spoken, I guess. I won’t pretend I’m happy, or even okay with this election… but I will say this: I hope the President-elect is able to follow through with his Hope and Change agenda with all sincerity. Otherwise, in four years, he’ll learn just how fickle our mob mentality is.

It bothers me something fierce that I was right in predicting Virginia turning blue. Never wanted to be correct on that account.

Anna on November 5, 2008 at 4:22 AM

After many beverages, I realized that the silver lining is this: No other country, no other people on earth, would have the chutzpah, the sheer maverickness, seven years after 9/11, to elect the son of a Muslim with a name like Hussein Obama to be our President. Any other country would be lynching its muslims, and we elect one President. Yes, we made an insane decision. But it was an American kind of insane. There is no other country, no other people, that’s this kind of crazy. God bless America.

PS: Palin 2012!

joe_doufu on November 5, 2008 at 4:29 AM

eh, I could say some nasty stuff about the next 4 years, but we’ve already said it all. Now we watch it unfold and hope for the best. I predict the U.S. will now be tested and humiliated. Hopefully our entire country won’t be redistributed across the world like he plans on doing to us. I’d have waited until we new more about the guy before putting him at the wheel, and well now the Dems have a big job on their hands don’t they; keeping it all together. One thing I can say here is I have seen some fine people emerge here in this forum, have laughed, and generally agreed with everything said in here. The scotch drinkers will have a pounding head in the morning, but lets all keep close and informed and get through this. Enjoy what freedoms we have for as long as we can. By the way, I don’t care for crow. I prefer to skip the meal.

johnnyU on November 5, 2008 at 4:34 AM

oops.. knew

johnnyU on November 5, 2008 at 4:36 AM

Blech. I hope I’m wrong about him. In the event I’m right, I hope the Secret Service is in top form for the next 4 years. If you think 4 years of Obama in office will be a disaster, imagine what would happen to the country if some white supremacist killed him. Racial meltdown…perhaps rightly so. God bless Obama. May he accomplish none of his goals.

blankminde on November 5, 2008 at 4:42 AM

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