Final Mason-Dixon battleground numbers: dead heat
posted at 7:45 am on November 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Jonathan Martin notes at Politico that the battleground states appear to have all reached a dead-heat conclusion — with lots of undecideds — in the last Mason-Dixon polling. M-D did a credible job in the 2004 election, and this could mean either candidate could sail away with this election. In fact, Obama hasn’t hit 50% in any of these polls (via Gateway Pundit):
Colorado: Obama 49, McCain 44, Undecided 4
Florida: Obama 47, McCain 45, Undecided 7
Nevada: Obama 47, McCain 43, Undecided 8
Pennsylvania: Obama 47, McCain 43, Undecided 9
Virginia: Obama 47, McCain 44, Undecided 9
Ohio: McCain 47, Obama 45, Undecided 6
Missouri: McCain 47, Obama 46, Undecided 5
North Carolina: McCain 49, Obama 46, Undecided 5As Brad Coker, who runs the Mason-Dixon poll, notes, the vast majority of the undecided voters in these states are whites.
I believe that other polling shows Florida and Nevada as close but relatively reliable McCain wins. If McCain can’t carry Florida, then he probably loses the election no matter what anyway, unless he figures a way to lose Florida but win every other state on this list. Colorado probably goes to Obama.
That leaves Pennsylvania and Virginia, and it looks like McCain could win them both. Both have high percentages of undecideds, and both are within the margin of error. If McCain wins both, he has 281 Electoral College votes even without Nevada. If Obama wins both, he has 276 EC votes even if he loses Minnesota. In a split, Pennsylvania would win McCain the election, or a combination of Virginia and Minnesota or perhaps another blue state looking to go red.
Coal could win or lose this election in both states. Team McCain needs to push that issue hard in the final hours in the Rust Belt region. Undecideds will almost certainly fall his way in the final hours of this election, as long as McCain can convince them to actually vote.
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Go Mac and Cuda!
ErinF on November 3, 2008 at 7:48 AM
I’ve never believed that. Not after McCain chose Palin.
Marcus on November 3, 2008 at 7:50 AM
As Brad Coker, who runs the Mason-Dixon poll, notes, the vast majority of the undecided voters in these states are whites.
Goddamn I am tired of race being mentioned in every breath.
Obama is on track to get roughly the same vote totals, perhaps a touch more, than Kerry and Gore; did they lose because they were black too?
Mr. Bingley on November 3, 2008 at 7:50 AM
I have mixed emotions about all this.
On the one hand I’m glad that McCain is within striking distance of a great victory. On the other hand I’m very disturbed that the voters of this great nation would even consider placing Barack Obama in the Whitehouse; in a rational time he would have been finished back in the Iowa caucus.
Makes you wonder what has happened to the good sense of the American electorate.
johnsteele on November 3, 2008 at 7:52 AM
If McCain wins…it’s peanut butter jelly time.
watchmen on November 3, 2008 at 7:52 AM
Totally agree, if only because the demographics of Florida are a microcosm of the rest of the nation. That being said in my little chunk I’m seeing A LOT more McCain signs than I did Bush signs in 2004 and not a lot of Obama signs. Took a walk yesterday and saw a homemade “I’m Tom the UPS Driver” sign in front of one McCain home!
But…McCain is also at Raymond James Stadium this morning, which while I doubt Hillsborough goes blue is probably designed to get him on TV in Florida’s biggest market, so maybe some of the surrounding counties are teetering.
McLovin on November 3, 2008 at 7:55 AM
The thing to watch out for today is what last minute “October Surprise” story the media is going to push to try and derail the McCain campaign just before voting starts?
I’m guessing it’s going to come from the New York Times.
gumble on November 3, 2008 at 7:56 AM
An educational “system” in dire need of a complete teardown and overhaul starting from pre-K and going all the way up to the graduate level at university. Civics courses no longer mandatory…only a semester–or less–of American history being required in high school–and the history that is taught is so laden with postmodern deconstructionism that it’s no wonder students come out ill informed and cynical…and I can go on and on.
Regardless of the victor of this election, we’ve got a lot of work ahead of us–but, it’ll be easier and far less painful if we can get McCain across that line first.
Matt Helm on November 3, 2008 at 7:56 AM
Let’s put it this way…if mental stability were a prerequisite for voting, we’d have a government almost completely free of Democrats.
flipflop on November 3, 2008 at 7:57 AM
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That’s the PUMAs point: the caucuses were rigged by Obamabots and the MSM spun away.
Blake on November 3, 2008 at 7:57 AM
Pinellas will probably go blue. Polk should stay red. McCain should keep Hernando and Citrus and Levy and Pasco. Manatee and Sarasota could be problems. Hardee should stay red.
Matt Helm on November 3, 2008 at 7:58 AM
They need to start playing the tapes and these rallies!!
Let people hear for themselves!
OSUBuciz1 on November 3, 2008 at 8:00 AM
No kidding. You could probably count the number of undecided blacks on one hand.
RedWinged Blackbird on November 3, 2008 at 8:01 AM
Me thinks it was very unwise for Hopey to besmirch,
and threaten the bitter clinging hard working American
Coal Miners of their bread and butter!
And,I think Hopey has outdone himself,and this just might
be a personal best for Team Changey/BidenGaffe as their
about to throw PENNSLYVANIA and VIRGINIA under da BUS!
canopfor on November 3, 2008 at 8:01 AM
Yes, and if people bothered to understand how coal is actually mined in the United States today, the winner would be Obama. Current Coal mining practice is so environmentally evil that I would actually support Nuremberg type tribunals with the throwing out of ex post facto restrictions for the coal industry. Coal mining today, as opposed to when there were coal miners, just basically rips up the Earth leveling places like West Virginia and leaving toxic pits all over the place. I’d just like people to vacation West Virginia in the coal mining areas as I have and see if they can support what’s going on now. Now, if coal were mined in ways that were not environmentally insane, I would another opinion about this subject.
thuja on November 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM
Don’t forget about Focus on the Family – our secret weapon in CO
lodge on November 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM
True. Because tons of racists are voting for BHO.
jgapinoy on November 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM
Yeah I’m not sure about Pinellas, we got it Red by a few hundred votes last time around (I did A LOT of door to door in 2004), but I hope more people mid and north County come out than in the People’s Republic of St. Petersburg. Agree about the others, especially Sarasota, bastion of the the art-loving well-meaning retired limosine liberal.
McLovin on November 3, 2008 at 8:03 AM
oops that last comment should have had that as the quote.
McLovin on November 3, 2008 at 8:03 AM
Gosh darnit, if McCain wins I’m breaking out the Cheese Whiz. Spare no expenses!
Christoph on November 3, 2008 at 8:04 AM
I’ve never witnessed a media so boldly “in the tank” for a candidate in my lifetime. The MSM has failed to do the job it was created to do, and they aren’t trying to hide that fact one bit. Based upon the bold bias in the media, coupled with the fact that most polling agencies are under Liberal control, I’m of the belief that Obama has an 8-10 point fabricated cushion in these polls. This election looks like it’s very similar to 2000 and 2004, showing once again that America remains a center right country by a very slim margin.
I believe a true Conservative Republican candidate would win a general election by a landslide, which would silence the belief that Americans are ready to embrace Socialism and the new Democrat Party.
I also believe that both parties are taking us in the same direction, but one party is taking us there much quicker than the other. Republicans must get back to Conservative ways of governing; get out of the way and let the people function without handcuffs and road blocks; shrink the size and scope of big government, while letting states govern freely with much less involvement from the feds. Get rid of the death tax, which is a blatant attack on personal wealth. Get rid of the capital gains tax which takes hundreds of millions of dollars and puts it in government hands rather than back into the economy.
McCain/Palin win this election tomorrow with similar numbers that Bush won with in 2004.
Keemo on November 3, 2008 at 8:04 AM
“Coal could win or lose this election in both states.”
Damn. Right!
Hey, I didn’t mean that to be a play on the Reverend’s infamous words, but it works for me.
Christoph on November 3, 2008 at 8:05 AM
I have seen it first hand,,, too many people cannot think beyond the bumper sticker. I woman I work with,, this woman has basic conservative values, though doesn’t realize it. She said she can’t vote McCain because “Palin wears those $500. designer glasses.”
Another guy is voting Obama because he thinks Obama is cool. When you try to have a discussion,, it’s like their faces contort and it’s information overload for them. I am not talking about low paid, teenagers. I am talking middle class adults in middle class jobs who have families.
I think these are people that identify with the media,, magazines like People. They think Oprah is smart.
JellyToast on November 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM
I believe this combined with Obama’s thuggish political methods, his cold-mindedness (infanticide anyone), his megalomania (symbols of power including his personal Seal, speech to Berlin, etc.), his charisma, and his seeking out of radical allies over a lifetime… put(s) America at risk of a dictatorship within the next few to ten years.
Christoph on November 3, 2008 at 8:08 AM
McCain will win FL by over 4%
georgealbert on November 3, 2008 at 8:08 AM
Considering how well Hillary did there, I agree.
Christoph on November 3, 2008 at 8:09 AM
With a couple of fingers missing.
flipflop on November 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM
Between PUMAs and the COAL issue – I believe MAC and Saray can win this.
Obama is just TOO LIBERAL to be President in USA.
stenwin77 on November 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM
This IS good news, but, this makes ACORN and the like all the more dangerous. It won’t take much to inspire all out war in these states…and don’t think that Chairman O-Zedong and his bitter wife won’t claw and fight tooth and nail to steal this from the lovers of freedom. I suggest that EVERY ONE OF US bring our identification to the polls and slap it down in front of the workers and demand they match it up. They still have not sent my voter registration card…I have called soooooo many times. they said it is just too much..but they said I don’t need it to vote. this is NC and it makes me SICK.
Mommypundit on November 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM
I know a crusty old Democrat who won’t vote Obama because he didn’t put his hand over his heart during the pledge, period.
Marcus on November 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM
OBAMA’S CHICKENS (lumps of COAL) ARE COMIN HOME….TO ROOST !
stenwin77 on November 3, 2008 at 8:11 AM
Ed, you and Allah aren’t in the same office are you…
He sees it totally different, using Gallup Obama is up my 10.
I think yours is more accurate, not because I want it, but because of the fact…we know how the black population is voting, but the balance of the undecided isn’t black. That gives the undecided about a 10-12% favorable to McCain.
right2bright on November 3, 2008 at 8:13 AM
The VA-Dispatch newspaper noted that most of the undecided Whites were outside of Northern VA (Barry’s base) and in the state’s conservative heart around Richmond on south and southwest into the mountains. Easy call: VA stays red.
Believe me when I tell you also that NC stays red as well.
SouthernGent on November 3, 2008 at 8:13 AM
Undecideds. Does anyone else find it a little scary that the outcome of this election will probably be determined by people who still haven’t made up their minds?
RedWinged Blackbird on November 3, 2008 at 8:14 AM
There’s a billionaire named Tim something–a homosexual liberal activist–who has literally taken over the state’s politics.
jgapinoy on November 3, 2008 at 8:15 AM
…Tim Gill.
jgapinoy on November 3, 2008 at 8:15 AM
I have dozens of members of my extended family that have never voted for a Republican, who are voting McCain/Palin this election simply because Obama is such a radical Liberal who wrote the words “a white man’s greed runs a world in need.”
Obama & his wife have made this election all about race, and that has pissed off many voters!
Keemo on November 3, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Ed, you and Allah aren’t in the same office are you…
He sees it totally different…
Well that’s what makes life interesting. FWIW, I lampooned Allah in 2006 right up until the election for being a pessimist and… well… you know how that turned out.
Christoph on November 3, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Get used to it, this is just the beginning, they have tasted blood, it will just get worse. And if Obama gets elected, they will spend the next 4 years trying to convince us they were right, and when McCain wins, this last couple of years will look weak by comparison.
I totally agree, but you have to have a very charismatic deliverer of the conservative platform. You are taking candy from a baby (over 30%), and the baby cries loud.
right2bright on November 3, 2008 at 8:19 AM
Supposedly, by the Obomber team’s own analysis, he has to have a 10 point lead to win this. And there’s now way he’s got it.
Anything less, plus a lot of undecideds is a strong indicator of a McCain win.
So…….
VOTE REPUBLICAN/CONSERVATIVE DOWN THE LINE.
McCAIN/PALIN VICTORY ’08!!!!!!!!!
J.J. Sefton on November 3, 2008 at 8:21 AM
I’m involved in the power industry in NJ/PA/DE and I’ve emailed the “coal” link to everyone I know.
I’m feeling good about this!
scottythrust on November 3, 2008 at 8:22 AM
I am a Dem {soon to be changing parties} voting for McCain/Palin. Know a lot more Dems in Lake County Fl voting McCain/Palin too. Everywhere you look here in Lake county you see McCain/Palin signs.
southpaw64 on November 3, 2008 at 8:22 AM
GOD DAMN AMERICA!!
JiangxiDad on November 3, 2008 at 8:23 AM
God Bless America!
Palinpuma on November 3, 2008 at 8:25 AM
Exactly. But that’s not how the press is trying to spin this:
Electoral Math: For McCain, the Numbers Aren’t Adding Up
Courtesy of TIME, of course. Watch for the rest of the media to continue with this story that it’s already over, in their attempts to keep McCain supporters and undecideds who may be leaning that way to stay home. Like they want them to – since ‘its over’ already.
wise_man on November 3, 2008 at 8:25 AM
McCain’s gotta win every state that touches the Ohio River except Illinois. Good thing there’s lots of coal and gun clingers in the Ohio valley. I thought he would win easily in these states (even PA) until the banking collapse somehow managed to benefit Obama, but it’s still close enough to happen.
Maybe McCain/Palin should take advantage of some free media on FNC. No appearances on O’Reilly or the morning show?
forest on November 3, 2008 at 8:25 AM
Well that’s what makes life interesting. FWIW, I lampooned Allah in 2006 right up until the election for being a pessimist and… well… you know how that turned out.
you forget though when your pessimist or optimistic all the time you’re 50/50 right and that in 06 we had reps voting for dems to teach the GOP a lesson, win or lose i’ll always be critical of allah’s type of blogging
now that said, everyone GOTV, ive got freaking family who usually vote dem voting for Mac here in FL, and family who usually dont vote are voting for Mac, GOTV and we should win! don’t let dem polls tools like allah supress the vote
YRM on November 3, 2008 at 8:26 AM
I think the Messiah’s going to win. It though will definitely not be the blowout everyone thinks.
sbvft contributor on November 3, 2008 at 8:27 AM
I just have this feeling that when the election is over the turnouts will be the total opposite. The states the experts thought were battleground states are not going to be even close. The MSM will be pulling their hairs wondering “What happened?” and these polling experts will not admit their polls were wrong.
jaboba on November 3, 2008 at 8:27 AM
all about race…..
Keemo on Nov 3,2008 at 8:17AM.
Keemo: Donna Brazil,this morning, said about electing Obama!
That it would bring reconcilation–wtf!
Oh,I heard that John Pedesta,’clinton operative’
would be heading Obama’s transition team,if Hopey
is elected!
canopfor on November 3, 2008 at 8:28 AM
No appearances on O’Reilly or the morning show?
oreilly? the guy is like allah, he’s just basing everything on the polls and an obama win is inevitable according to him, hopefully he starts making up like he saw it coming wed. night trying to explain why “those right wing liars” were all right and he was wrong and a tool for polls
YRM on November 3, 2008 at 8:29 AM
Vast majority? Not all? Who are these people NOT in the “vast majority”?
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on November 3, 2008 at 8:30 AM
I have argued against McCain on this board many times in the past and voted for Barr via absentee ballot already (I am a resident of Alaska, so I didn’t cost McCain the election so take a drink of decaffeinated and relax before you start hurling invectives). I think McCain really, really sucks as a candidate and that the Republican party chose him is troubling. The point of this post is a question: As more and more WWII generation die off, more and more of the destructive generation replace the WWII generation as the “senior vote”, and more and more publicly educated believers in the benevolence and central role government plays in their lives become voters, what does that say about the future of this country? I mean this year, the Democrats have nominated an outright Marxist and no one seems to have a problem with it, hell, he is probably going to win this election. How does this country correct this course down the road to destruction?
King of the Britons on November 3, 2008 at 8:31 AM
Yeah, Bill’s been sounding like a Lou Dobbs style populist lately.
The reason I thought McCain or Palin should go on the show is for free media with a good sized audience, and not so much because O’Reilly likes them.
forest on November 3, 2008 at 8:33 AM
It would be illegal for them to be politically active. Their sister organization, “Focus on the Family Action,” doesn’t have much money.
jgapinoy on November 3, 2008 at 8:34 AM
By this time in the election, it’s very difficult for traditional democrat voters to believe Obama is a traditional democrat. The McCain camp and allies have done a pretty good job of exposing his radicalism. That makes me think many trad. blue collar Dem voters won’t just be going through the usual motions tomorrow when voting. People are being forced to confront something uncomfortable and disturbing in their Dem candidate.
Thinking twice is not something Barry wants them to do. Have faith.
JiangxiDad on November 3, 2008 at 8:34 AM
I have argued against McCain on this board many times in the past and voted for Barr via absentee ballot already
so you threw your vote for voting for a guy who couldn’t win if God endorsed him? guess you’re a glenn beck kind of fan (who btw has seen the light and voted Mac instead ofwasting the vote on barr like you did), i know you didn’t cost him the election but when people waste their vote like that it gets under my skin, you minus have voted for barry
screw people who think like that, we get it, Mac ain’t the dream candidate but guess what it’s that or socialism. GOTV! annoy this guy and Vote Mac
YRM on November 3, 2008 at 8:35 AM
Hillary dems – GOd Bless their heart
are going to sway the vote 5%
in addition the nation is 60% conservative
polls don’t tell the outrage and Obama has so polarized people that they will say they are voting for him or independent just to avoid the confrontation
on election day – America will not elect an undeveloped canidate with no achievements and radical policies and friends
audiotom on November 3, 2008 at 8:36 AM
One thing is for sure… that course correction isn’t accomplished by electing Senator Obama.
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on November 3, 2008 at 8:36 AM
Most of us still have to vote McCain tomorrow. Let’s concentrate on getting him elected. We can decide how best to help him govern and save the country on Wednesday.
Have faith. We won’t vote Barr like you did, so you will have the opportunity to work on your concerns.
JiangxiDad on November 3, 2008 at 8:38 AM
O’Reilly has always been a slightly right-of-center populist first. The left hates him because he won’t let them off the hook. But he’s an equal-opportunity abuser.
either orr on November 3, 2008 at 8:38 AM
The Republican party didn’t really choose McCain. He was chosen by independents assisted by the same Media which has supported Obama. If you look back at the primaries, the conservative vote was split and that split allowed McCain to take the lead and remain there.
The MSM has been dishonest with its reporting so why should anyone take the polling results they release as gospel. Tell everyone you know not to believe the polls and to go vote.
quietman7 on November 3, 2008 at 8:39 AM
out for my 1st ever HA thread
GOTV! vote Mac/Palin08!
come on everyone let’s pull a truman upset tommorow night! put the MSM out of bussiness for good and make pollsterslose all credibility so we don’t hearcrapo from allah on them anaymore, we’re this close, let’s go! let’s go! let’s go!
YRM on November 3, 2008 at 8:43 AM
Wow, you aren’t drinking Sanka this morning are you? Curse me for not agreeing with you and voting for the lesser of two evils? Is there anything that the Republican party could do to lose your support? Apparently nominating the guy who basically has said “F*ck You Republicans” over the past 20 or so years isn’t enough. Not pushing Social Security reform, oil exploration, smaller government, or immigration reform when they had the House, the Senate, and the White House isn’t enough to do it. What would it take?
King of the Britons on November 3, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Fingernails are finished… moving on to the phalanges….
creatocon on November 3, 2008 at 8:47 AM
The MSM is so delusional that even if McCain wins they’ll report that Obama won by a landslide.
Larry Todd on November 3, 2008 at 8:48 AM
When considering Churchill’s attitude towards the Soviet Union, he onced said that if Hitler were to invade Hell he would promptly sign a pact with the Devil.
When the
warelection is over, we will deal withthe Soviet UnionMcCain.JiangxiDad on November 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM
Wow, you aren’t drinking Sanka this morning are you? Curse me for not agreeing with you and voting for the lesser of two evils? Is there anything that the Republican party could do to lose your support? Apparently nominating the guy who basically has said “F*ck You Republicans” over the past 20 or so years isn’t enough. Not pushing Social Security reform, oil exploration, smaller government, or immigration reform when they had the House, the Senate, and the White House isn’t enough to do it. What would it take?
was gonna leave thread until i saw this stupid comment that i have to respond to: let me do all capitals to geT through you: WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A RINO IN OFFICE OR A FULL BLOWN ADMITTED SOCIALIST/MARXIST AND THEN WASTE THE VOTE BY VOTING FOR SOME GUY WHO CANT WIN IF GOD AND JESUS CAME DOWN IN HEAVEN AND BLESSED THEM TO BE PRESIDENT?!
in other words: whine all you want, mac needs to win not the socialist, get over the fact we could have a better candidate but guess what i’m not gonna let a socialist win because i can’t get over the fact the guy nominated disagrees w/ reps 40% of the time
YRM on November 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM
BO isn’t over 50 in any of these states.
Color me RED and HOPEFUL !!!
stenwin77 on November 3, 2008 at 8:54 AM
ps: supression of vote=EPIC FAIL
YRM on November 3, 2008 at 8:54 AM
As goes coal, so goes our economy. Forty-nine percent of our electricity comes from coal. If coal costs are artificially inflated with cap and trade, everything that is produced here will go up in price and become noncompetative in the world’s markets.
It really is a no-brainer.
hillbillyjim on November 3, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Wake up, America! VOTE for McCain/Palin!!!
lori lane on November 3, 2008 at 8:57 AM
How right you are – this post hints at optimism something Allah is allergic to.
Fuquay Steve on November 3, 2008 at 8:58 AM
My bet: McCain will win all the above swing states.
Mcguyver on November 3, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Some people around here seem to be forgetting that there are more than just 2 races in the United States…
The fact that “the vast majority of the undecided voters in these states are whites” may be significant in a discussion about Hispanics and Asians.
Lehosh on November 3, 2008 at 9:06 AM
guess we get no Khalidi tape, and the LAT gets away with it
jp on November 3, 2008 at 9:12 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html#polls
The polls are close in FL but he hasn’t even tied him since a Zogby poll from last week, of which he’s since fallen behind in. The situation in Nevada is even more extreme with few of the polls even within the margin of error. How either of them become reliable pickups for McCain I haven’t a clue.
Typhonsentra on November 3, 2008 at 9:16 AM
Another Obamabot, who’s only connection to reality is that he can spell it on a good day.
Every point you made, is just plain wrong.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Temporarily. It’s a failing business; it won’t be around long.
JiangxiDad on November 3, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Do you not believe in God? If God came, Barr would win. I mean come on, he is God.
You are doomed to a future of RINOs and moderates because you vote for them. You will always find a reason to vote for them because the Left will always nominate a lefty and you will use that as your justification to vote for someone you don’t truly support. And you call me stupid. Ha!
King of the Britons on November 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Two Points:
1.McCain will win Virginia. Every poll showing a big lead for Obama has had a +6 or greater advantage for the democrats when just 2 years ago it was +3 Repubs. State has not shifted 9 points. The Southwest portion of the state are going to run up huge margins for McCain to offset NOVA. Also rumors that McCains GOTV was lacking is incorrect. We are seriously getting at least 3 calls everyday for the past week.
2. While the Bradley effect may contain some racists votes, it is more likely some who do not want to be called racist. I know of many Democrats who secretly say they will vote for McCain. But they won’t dare say so publicly. Just think about it. If they call Republicans racist for voting against Obama, what do you think they would call Democrats who would dare vote against “The One”?
jmell7 on November 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
I still have a bet that Iowa is going to be REALLY close if not a win for McCain. Here in Missouri McCain is on track to win the state. Why? Because most of the old FDR democrats I know here are deep down racist and have told me when I worked during the primaries they could never vote for a black guy. Their quotes, not mine.
Two other points, Missouri has always voted with the winner but once for the last century, and two, we had a straw poll at the state fair that has always been right since it’s been taken over 100 years ago and McCain was 80/20 over Obama.
Ronaldusmaximus on November 3, 2008 at 9:25 AM
This really did come out of nowhere. Which is where America will be if BHO is elected.
jimbodeano67 on November 3, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Wow, I don’t know about where you live, but you should come to Texas, where our coal is lignite and has to be strip mined. I used to work for the largest utility in the state and they were proud of the fact that after they had mined all the coal, they put the landscape back better than it was to begin with.
Kafir on November 3, 2008 at 9:32 AM
MSNBC is till touting an NBC/WSJ poll giving Obama an 8 point (significant) lead. How in hell does he Wall Street Journal get the stench off after standing so close to NBC. I also noticed on the MSNBC page this morning that NBC is still concerned about the opinions of the ‘Rest of the World”. NBC/MSNBC is nothing more than an anti American communist front organization and a real danger to the Republic.
rplat on November 3, 2008 at 9:32 AM
This is the real deal panic, they know they have to decide on the “undecideds” and those are white, he has to take 10=12% more of them to win.
The “big boys” in the Obama office are muttering to themselves. They saw the overnights during the weekend and they took a beating.
Watch what Obama does, it will be a sign of panic. It is too late to play the “keep them on the toes” game, they are sinking.
PA, and OH are now McCains, Florida is McCains, NC the great majority of the blacks have voted and Obama is barely hanging on with that.
With the Republican vote, Obama has lost NC also…he is running out of options…now Minnesota?
The son of a relative in the Obama campaign (on the internet side, but high up) is reporting all out panic this morning…there heads are spinning.
right2bright on November 3, 2008 at 9:35 AM
McCain will win FL, OH, NC, MO, and VA. CO and NV are less certain but still very winnable. Keep an eye on Pennsylvania early. If McCain takes that it will make it very difficult for Obama to get to 270. I also think that Iowa and New Hampshire are in play.
McCain is actually in pretty good position for a EC victory despite everything.
rsrobinson on November 3, 2008 at 9:35 AM
I’m watching Our Sarah in OH right now. She is SMOKIN’. And I’m not talking necessarily about her appearance.
Oh rats. They cut to FL and John and Joe Lieberman.
hoosiermama on November 3, 2008 at 9:36 AM
I’d bet that those ‘undecided’ who’ll turn up to vote have already made up their minds and will vote McCain. They’re just not telling, either because they think it’s no one else’s business or it’s not perceived as popular.
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I have really taken heart since finding your site about 5 months ago, I was never really into the blogs, but started looking at Drudge this year and found you great folks…
Thank you for this chance to join this community.
Here is a new guys thoughts going into tomorrow:
McCain will win, REAL Americans will flood the votes in OH, PA, FL, VA, NC… We will lose CO.
I fell Obama will win Popular Vote but lose to Mc in EV count…
My reasons, (many mentioned here before, I am sure):
1) Polls are DEAD wrong, heavily weighed to DEM and a HUGE, HUGE number of folks who have “refused” to answer pollsters this year… Why? If your an Obama voter you are yelling from the tree tops, “I’m FOR Obama”! But those blue collars, rural, surburban voters (who do NOT want to be thought of a redneck racists) are NOT responding…
2) Americans are waking up to the Messiah, his stange bed fellows, his desires for CHANGE to an America no-one would recognize. Kill Coal Plants, Drive up gas prices, Kill Drilling again, Fairness doctrine… and so many more…
My Call is: McCain 281 Obama 257
McCain takes FL, VA, PA, OH, NC, IN, MO…
We lose : CO, NM, NV, IA, MN, NH…
From my mouth to God’s ears…
Mark Garnett on November 3, 2008 at 9:38 AM
If this thing were in the bag for BO there wouldnt be so much shenanigans being pulled to boost him. I got nothing but freakin robo-calls yesterday at home and was ready to rip my phone wires out. There’s no dem even in my friggin house.
Maryland is trying to implement slot machines to cut costs after our new Dem Governor just raised sales tax a whole percent. Voting for slots was to stop a tax increase here, and we already got nailed with it, so guess what…NO SLOT VOTE PLEASE! More money to give them to waste!
johnnyU on November 3, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Sweet, sweet, sweet.
Just registered as a new user and have been soooo wantiing to put in my 2 cents! I’m no Troll, no Eeyore. Get out and make calls folks! We will win this thing! BTW Mac is on fire in Tampa right now.
Chewy the Lab on November 3, 2008 at 9:41 AM
They were discussing these polls today on Joe S. and they pointed out that the data in the polls were gathered from last Wednesday and so they don’t accurately reflect the situation today. Anyone know if this is true?
kit9 on November 3, 2008 at 9:43 AM
Its coming down to the wire…just want this to go to MAC by more than one state so there is no question of who won.
rockyp on November 3, 2008 at 9:45 AM
At the rally in Richmond Saturday, we were talking to some folks from that area. I’m convinced that area is deeply red… and the locals were all worried about Hampton Roads (moreso than NorVa). I told them to be indeed worried, as Obama’s got door-to-door canvassers going around non-stop in my neck of the woods. I don’t know if the military vote is going to out-do the Obama vote down here – if anything, they’ll cancel each other out. I think Virginia will go to McCain, but it’ll be close – maybe close enough that Obama will challenge it. And that’s me being optimistic.
Off-topic, man, I love me some Eric Cantor. I don’t live in his district, but after hearing him talk, I almost wish I did. He’s going places.
Anna on November 3, 2008 at 9:46 AM
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