Could McCain win Minnesota?
posted at 7:04 am on November 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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This morning, one of the first e-mails I opened was from the McCain campaign, claiming that the presidential race in my state had pulled into a dead heat. Sure, I thought — Minnesota barely has Norm Coleman ahead of Al Freakin’ Franken. Obama should be up 15 here under those circumstances, and in fact the MinnPoll has Obama ahead by 11. Survey USA says it’s a margin-of-error race, though, and says Obama’s tripping up Franken:
60 hours until votes are counted in Minnesota, Barack Obama’s advantage over John McCain is back inside the margin of sampling error, according to SurveyUSA’s final look at one of 2008’s most interesting states. Obama 49%, McCain 46%, in interviewing underwritten by KSTP-TV in Minneapolis, WDIO-TV Duluth and KAAL-TV Rochester, 10/30/08 through 11/01/08. Obama led by 6 two weeks ago, now by 3. The late break to the GOP is occurring among men and seniors.
That’s a shock to me. During the summer, I had thought that McCain could carry Minnesota if he picked Tim Pawlenty as his running mate, and had less chance with Sarah Palin. This state has not voted Republican in a national election since Nixon ran against George McGovern in 1972, and Bush lost to Kerry by 3.5% in 2004, when we thought the GOP might have a shot at the Land o’ Lakes.
And rather than helping Franken, Obama seems to be making the DFL Senate candidate’s plight worse:
For each point McCain gains, the better it looks for Republican Norm Coleman’s US Senate re-election bid. In 4 pre-election tracking polls, SurveyUSA has never shown Franken ahead. Other pollsters have. The contest is close, fiercely fought, and Franken may in fact win. But in SurveyUSA’s final numbers, it’s Coleman 44%, Franken 39%. Independence Party candidate Dean Barkley, though down from 19% a month ago to 16% today, is a true spoiler. Barkley’s supporters are more likely to be Democrats than Republicans, and more likely to be pro-choice than pro-life. If Barkley’s supporters turn-out to vote but at the last instant turn-away from Barkley, Franken may out-perform these numbers.
Barkley’s bid has been Coleman’s saving grace in a year that was supposed to be tough on Republican incumbents. Franken is truly an execrable candidate and a disgrace as a potential representative, and Barkley gives those hostile to Coleman a haven for their vote. Had the DFL nominated a respectable opponent — say, Michael Cerisi or even Priscilla Lord Faris — this race might look very different and Barkley would likely be an afterthought in polling. Barkley has 16% despite running a grand total of one television ad this season.
The internals on the presidential race are very interesting. McCain leads among men, seniors, and 35-49. Obama leads among women, youth, and middle-aged voters. Obama inexplicably gets 23% of the pro-life vote in Minnesota, and perhaps that’s one place where the McCain campaign can work to swing the last few votes from Obama to McCain. In a state where independents really matter, McCain has a five-point edge.
If McCain wins Minnesota, that puts a major dent in Obama’s presidential aspirations. No one had Minnesota in the red column, and if the momentum carries McCain across the finish line here, it may do the same in other battleground states that Obama — and the media — expected to see finish blue.
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I used to live in Minnesota and can see the race tightening there as pollsters try to play CYA (cover your assets).
I don’t think it’s a three point race, however. It’s probably closer to the NBC poll from last week (eight points).
Dickie Dunn on November 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM
To be fair to unseen, I have read that polls based on registered voters are weighted according to primarily voter registration data. And we all know that ACORN have been busy little bees registering millions of “new voters,” which might be throwing off the models. This is not to mention the fact that Gallup has two likely voter models reflecting different turn-out scenarios amongst Obama’s new young voters. (Technically, since I’m in my 20s, I’m a young voter too — too bad for Obama I voted for McCain.)
But, if all these polls turn out to be wrong and McCain pulls this off, I will happily admit I was wrong and Eeyore-ish. And then I will spend the next two months ranting about poll bias and demanding investigations.
Outlander on November 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
I think Coleman will win out over Franken, but I don’t see any chance that McCain will win out over the Messiah.
MTinMN on November 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM
The above is in reference to MN only.
MTinMN on November 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Just try not to be so pessimistic this close to the big day, OK? The finish line is in sight. Now is not the time for getting discouraged. We’ll let the Democrats do that after McCain wins.
backwoods conservative on November 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
As a former Minnesota liberal (I grew up there, a 20 year resident of the frigid echo chamber), I would love to see my old stomping ground go red. But I’m doubtful that it can happen. I think it may be close, but not close enough to give McCain the state. I do think there will be cause for celebration there though, in the form of a Coleman victory. A Senate with Al Franken among its members would be intolerable.
First post here, btw. Thanks for opening registration, Hot Air people.
otisframpton on November 3, 2008 at 11:12 AM
If McCain can ride Coleman’s coattails to victory here. The 10 EV’s he steals are pure gold.
OldeSCfan on November 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM
I don’t think that most of those who will vote against the big-eared goblin are racist. But I do believe that many otherwise-Democrat voters are more than a bit put off by being told that only racists won’t vote for him. The list of reasons not to vote for Obama are many and varied and, if race is even on the list, it’s way down on the list. I don’t know if the Obamaites are aware of this or if they’ve just convinced themselves that it’s all about race and the populace can be easily shamed into compliance.
If it will help you Minnesotans to know this, I have it on good authority that John McCains ancient ancestors were actually Norse seafarers who took a wrong turn and ended up in Briton, adopting local customs and names.
SKYFOX on November 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I personally won’t go down without a fight. I spent 20 hours this weekend at the phone banks making calls for McCain. I will not listen to the pollsters, pundits, talking heads etc. I have faith in the American public that they will do the right thing tomorrow. Please go out and vote and tell all of your friends, neighbors and co-workers (especially those of you who live in the battleground states) to go out and vote and ignore the media telling everyone that it’s over and already talking about Obama’s second term!! Just to incentivize people to go out and vote for McCain, Chris Matthews said that the election was over 2 weeks ago!! Nonsense. We elect Presidents, not the media.
Callie C. on November 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Wow.
Maybe McCain WILL win the election if he can win there.
John The Baptist on November 3, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I’d be very surprised if McCain wins here in Minnesota. But I will say this — the Kerry signs and bumper stickers were a lot more in evidence in 2004 than Obama signs and stickers have been in this cycle. That’s anecdotal, but I suspect that a lot of people are staying quiet about how they feel.
I do think Norm is going to win, although it’s going to be a lot closer than it should be. Franken has thrown the kitchen sink at Norm in the last week.
There’s also a late poll that indicates that Erik Paulsen is looking good in CD3. That would be a happy thing.
Mr. D on November 3, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Ed, you post something like this about Minnesota every election year. McCain doesn’t and never did have a chance here. Maybe in 2000 he would have but not anymore.
Joel Alexander on November 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Take this for what it’s worth. I live in MN. Andover to be specific. I have two elderly relatives who have never ever voted republican, neither is voting for Obama. Instead, they are voting for McCain. They both believe Obama is a socialist. Now that’s saying something. Because both of my aunts are FDR dems who love medicare, social security, etc…
Finally, my son’s middle school had a mach election several weeks ago. McCain won with 80%. Obama managed a paltry, 12%.
Proud Conservative on November 3, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Bachmann is looking good, too.
Proud Conservative on November 3, 2008 at 3:22 PM
As a former Mn resident (milaca) dontchaknow,
I would be estatic to see Mn go Red. I still have family there,all Democrat, and all voting for McCain and Coleman.
One can only hope for saner minds to prevail.
VOTE VOTE VOTE only then can we claim victory
God bless y’all
shiftwalker on November 3, 2008 at 3:36 PM
If Minnesota goes red, It might just be a long night for obama. What would happen to his 2 million dollar party???
PricklyPete on November 3, 2008 at 3:44 PM
I grew up in Minnesota and still have friends there. One sent me an email requesting prayer for our nation. I think their are many Christian people who will think long and hard before voting against our country.
Pat in NC on November 3, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Can McCain win Minnesota?
Yes He Can!
manofaiki on November 3, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Depends on the size of the rural (mainly GOP) vote vs. the urban (mainly Dem) vote. I don’t know Minnesota politics, so I can’t comment directly, but if it’s anything like New York State, I’d give McCain a shot. New York State votes Democratic when people from New York City, Albany, Rochester, and Buffalo vote in huge numbers; most of the rest of the state is overwhelmingly GOP territory, and they have voted GOP on governor level (though seldom on presidential level). Does this sound like a reasonable analogy for what could happen in Minnesota?
mark88hosting on November 3, 2008 at 10:38 PM
We drove 225 miles up into Minnesota from Iowa on Halloween before we saw the first Obama yard sign in the communities we passed through.
We were in frickin Willmar before we saw one, I think.
Caustic Conservative on November 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM
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