An open letter to our fellow Catholics on Election Eve

posted at 12:15 pm on November 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Our Faith Begins At Life

by Edward Morrissey and Elizabeth “The Anchoress” Scalia

Many of our Catholic friends support Barack Obama in the upcoming election, despite being the most radically pro-abortion presidential candidate in American history.  Other Catholics have publicly declared support for Obama as Catholics, arguing that their faith leads them to choose Obama over the pro-life candidate, John McCain.  We believe that they have overlooked in their arguments of “social justice” the foundation of our faith and of social justice: the sanctity of human life, and its origin.

It is not our intent to argue legalistically from the Catechism to our brethren.  We have both covered that extensively in posts over the last few months.  We want to remind our parishioners of the central fact that social justice has to start with the protection of innocent human life, and that our faith does not allow a trade between abortion and other social-justice policies.

A few months ago Doug Kmiec, a former official with the Reagan administration and prominent Catholic, made a public endorsement of Barack Obama and stated that Obama’s noble intentions on a full range of social issues made the Senator’s stance on abortion negligible. As Obama addressed every injustice, righted every wrong and wiped the tear from every eye, Kmiec seemed to reason, all of the complex social ills of the ages, from poverty, to war, to the death penalty and human rights would be suitably resolved and abortion would simply fall by the wayside as an issue.

Except, Obama has said himself that his very first act as President will not be some sweeping anti-poverty legislation; it will not be an end to war. “The first thing I’d do as president” Obama told NARAL, “is sign the Freedom of Choice Act“.

Kmiec’s argument might sound compelling to some – Denver’s Archbishop Charles Chaput admits to having reasoned similarly about Jimmy Carter in 1976 – until one considers Obama’s priorities. Under the heading of “human rights” Obama has made it clear – despite suggesting that the question of when a baby gets human rights as being “above” his “paygrade” – that in his mind a “woman’s right to choose” is a most basic human right; a singular priority. So passionately does Obama believe this that the Senator, who rates a perfect 100% with NARAL, unhesitatingly supports the procedure known as “partial birth abortion,” – an act so nakedly inhumane that his own running mate voted to ban it in 2003. And beyond that savagery, Obama has clearly articulated his position that a baby born alive during an attempted abortion should be refused medical attention.

Logically, then, a President Obama – whose presidency, we are told, will usher in a heyday for fundamental human rights – will always support abortion, even at its most extreme, even when its very definition changes to infanticide.  We have already seen Obama protect infanticide in a disturbing attempt to protect abortion in Illinois, and nothing he has said since shows any change of heart on this question.

The “abortion reduction agenda” which Obama mush-mouths and others, like Kmiec, seem to interpret as they wish, is a kind of “trickle down social economics:” once poverty is eradicated – presumably through higher taxes, higher energy prices, higher unemployment and the redistribution of wealth – once all of the priorities of war, famine, capitalism and injustice are taken care of (this would include absolutely ensuring “a woman’s right to choose” in any circumstance) and all the complex and messy matters of humanity have been sufficiently resolved, well, then the abortion issue will simply melt away.

Excuse us, but we see this as nothing more than fantasy – the mirror image, in fact, of another fantasy, one that holds that a reversal of Roe v. Wade will simply “solve the problem” of abortion. In each case, the fiction is misplaced because it refuses to look at the human heart. President Bush said in 2005, “a true culture of life cannot be sustained solely by changing laws. We need most of all, to change hearts.” He was given grief for that by some pro-lifers, but he was quite correct. Abortion has always existed, and it will always exist, as long as something remains broken within the human heart.

Even beyond this, though, consider why the Church supports social-justice issues.  Our faith does not emphasize fighting poverty and oppression as mere Boy Scout merit badges, or to give Catholics something to do on the weekends.  The emphasis on social justice springs from the foundational belief that all human life is sacred, anointed by God for His purposes, and not ours.  The need for social justice is for us to recognize the spark of divinity in all of us.

What does abortion says about human life?  It reduces it to commodity, and values it based on convenience.  If that is what we think about human life, then that rejects the entire idea that God created humankind at all, let alone for any divine purpose.  Without that fundamental understanding of the faith, then all kinds of horrors become possible — abortion, euthanasia, genocide on massive scales, war for acquisition, and the exploitation of the poor.

Why care about the poor if humans have no divine purpose?  If we can kill millions of our offspring without a second thought, why not leave the poor to their own devices?   Abortion represents the ultimate rejection of God and God’s plan.

And bear in mind that Barack Obama is no moderate on abortion.  The FOCA will federalize the question of abortion with the specific intent of striking down every moderating state law concerning abortion: parental notification, waiting periods, term limitations, and information requirements will end with its passage.  It will also re-impose federal subsidies of abortions by repealing the Hyde Amendment, forcing taxpayers — including Catholics — to pay for the abortions of others.

The question, then, boils down to one of reason: does your reason tell you that Sen. Barack Obama – a mere human being with a thin resume and a seeming propensity for shutting down, punishing, intimidating or otherwise harassing those who do not fall in line (through the force of government, if possible) – is going to heal the human heart through his social programs and his redistributionism?

Matters of the heart are never resolved through worldly machinations. More importantly, to expect a human man – who because he is human carries within him another broken, imperfect heart – to successfully, righteously and most of all disinterestedly resolve issues which have tested mankind for thousands of years is to assign onto him inhuman abilities; this smacks of idolatry and thus flies in the first and most fundamental priority of a believer: to have no gods before the One, the Creator.

Catholicism does not reject reason for faith but demands integration of the two, and prayerful discernment, before taking any action.

One’s vote should come after weighing reason.

Reason tells us that a human fetus is a human being and as such deserves inclusion into the whole notion of “human rights.” A candidate with consistent notions of human rights should be able to acknowledge that.

Reason tells us that an “abortion reduction agenda” is inconsistent with the stated priority of signing into law a sweeping, tax-payer funded abortion-rights legislation.

Reason insists that an ideology embracing the idea of genocide – whether that means eliminating people conceived with an extra chromosome or of wiping a sovereign nation off the map – is a warped ideology that is inconsistent with a commitment to human rights. Reason wonders why an electorate is not permitted to hear what a presumptive president might say to some such ideologues, and reason becomes very uncomfortable.

Reason tells us that one human man will not eradicate poverty. One human man will not eradicate war. One human man will not distribute justice to the nations. History is pockmarked with the graves of those slaughtered to the ambitions of human men who have tried to perfect and justify the world, according to their lights.

Barack Obama – inconsistent though he be – is no Hitler, or a Stalin or a Pol Pot. However, developing a fanciful notion of Obama’s ability to do and be more than man has ever done or been before – based on nothing more than a bit of charisma and an highly overprotective press – is to surrender, rather than apply, one’s use of reason.

Tomorrow is Election Day. By all means, each of us must vote for the candidates we believe will best serve the nation. ACORN aside, you only get one vote. Before your pull the lever, take some time to consider whether you have really applied your God-given gift of reason to it. And as Catholics, consider carefully which candidate best fits within our view of human life and God’s purpose for it.

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tocoloro on November 3, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Are you planning to use those weapons defensively or offensively, tocoloro?

jim m on November 3, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Human life begins in the union of a human egg and a human sperm.
Some of these human unions result in a human embryo with a heart-beat after 30 days, and fewer become a human fetus by the end of the 1st Trimester, viable, viable-damaged, or otherwise. Fewer still survive the vagaries of pregnancy to achieve birthdom! Therefore, Abortion by other means, is a moral choice, not biological.
When and how may we abort a a gestating human being?
Your answer may vary, but let’s not minimize.
Is it OK to abort a healthy, viable human fetus by “partial-birth” in the 3rd Trimester?
The fact that this is a “viable” question questions the value of all human life.


williars on November 3, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Very well done Ed and Elizabeth. One of the more cogent arguments I’ve read. Sadly, I find myself in a parish where the priest appears to have fallen for the abortion reduction line. But that didn’t stop a group of us from gathering in church tonight to pray for an outcome tomorrow that supports life. God bless America.

Dee2008 on November 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM

As a Catholic and a new commenter, thank ya’ll for this letter. Sometimes I feel like I am the only pro life person at my parish. It is a liberal Catholic college parish and all I see are pro Obama stickers on cars. Pray and pray hard. God Bless!

joesamas mama on November 3, 2008 at 7:07 PM

I repeat: 22 million potential voters


Jesus wept.

Fuquay Steve on November 3, 2008 at 7:10 PM

I would be interested to know who “self-described Catholics” are. My guess is that includes a lot of non-practicing Catholics.

Y-not on November 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Yes, all these statistics involving self-described Catholics are in reality bogus. Several recent studies indicate that more than half of “self-described” Catholics don’t even go to Mass on Sunday. They are “social” or “demographic” Catholics who describe themselves as such simply because they might have been born in Ireland or to a catholic family or some other social affinity. If actual practicing Catholics only were polled, the results would be completely different.

neuquenguy on November 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM

For anyone who knows that there is a rosary hiding in your dresser drawer, get it out and pray.

DrStock on November 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Out of the mouths of babes. while talking to my wife about the election. When the Name Obama was mentioned my 3 year old pipes up and says SATIN. We have never said that in our house. maybe we should only let those under the age of 5 vote .

still LOL.

tengger on November 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM

tengger on November 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Could it involve strong family values, integrity and morality? Your child is in it’s formative years, with guidance and stability, they will follow through life.

N4646W on November 3, 2008 at 7:33 PM

If the Catholic Church cannot make there most basic tenet followed, then their usefulness of a Church has passed.

right2bright on November 3, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Using the logic in this post every religion or philosophical movement’s usefulness has passed.
The Catholic church does not have the ability, or desire, to somehow make anybody who decides to call themselves catholic follow any precepts. People are free to do whatever they want and call themselves whatever they want. That doesn’t mean the are in fact Catholics or that, if they ever in fact were Catholics, they do not separate themselves from the church through their actions.
The church makes her teachings and the obligations of the faithful very clear, but it is up to the faithful to follow her teaching or to ignore them at their own peril. God has given human beings free will, and the Catholic Church is not about to take it away.

neuquenguy on November 3, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Rosary beads have been in my hands this past week. I hate to say it, but I rarely use them.

joesamas mama on November 3, 2008 at 7:38 PM

For anyone who knows that there is a rosary hiding in your dresser drawer, get it out and pray.

DrStock on November 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM

My whole family, like thousands of others, have been been doing a novena and going to daily Mass the last 8 days. One way or another Go’s will, who sees the whole picture, will be done.

neuquenguy on November 3, 2008 at 7:38 PM

joesamas and neuquenguy

Same here. This election, unlike any other, calls the question on whether what I believe about America and Americans is what my countrymen believe. I may find out that it is not. But I believe in His Divine will for U.S. and for me.

Semper Paratus

DrStock on November 3, 2008 at 8:14 PM

So how come you and HA don’t give Protestant’s this kind of opportunity for making an appeal? For what very little we know about either candidate’s faith (which worries me) both are not Catholic. I understand your motives but would suggest that you are dead wrong in being so parochial tonight. There are legitimate protestant bloggers who could craft the case for voting for McCain.

Is this forum the personal soapbox of you and the Vatican? Sure seems so when this kind of exclusion shows up. It runs along the lines of and is just as offensive as the so-called Catholic here who suggested that the Protestant sacrament of communion has no more significance to protestants than blowing out birthday candles or making a wish on the first star of the evening. I’m very disappointed in you Ed Morrisey that your faith doesn’t extend to tolerance of other Christians.

highhopes on November 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Dr Stock

You said it so very well. I am a glass half empty person, but I truly cannot believe that His Divine will cannot be pro choice. Also as a person who has had an abortion which I hate to admit to, I really pray that our country goes with Mr McCain.

joesamas mama on November 3, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Well said, DrStock. I keep saying and thinking the same thing myself….how can my beliefs be so far off of what the rest of America wants? How can Americans for one minute believe all of the crap Oliar is serving up for them? And how in the name of all that is holy can people not see him for the socialist/marxist that he is? I am stunned and amazed on a daily basis. Which is why I will be truly shocked if Oliar wins tomorrow. I have more faith in my fellow Americans….maybe I shouldn’t, but I do.

annetteharrell on November 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM

How would Jesus vote

Hilbilly on November 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM

I’m not Catholic but I agree wholeheartedly. Great letter Ed,keep up the good fight

Paco on November 3, 2008 at 8:45 PM

List of Catholic Bishops against Obama
Cardinal O’Malley of Boston: “In defending the cause of life, we are not only fulfilling our vocation as Catholics, but we are also defending the vision of democracy that is embodied in the Declaration of Independence that states ‘We hold these truths to be self evident,’ namely, that we are all created equal and are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, the first of which is the right to life. Today, this most fundamental human right is threatened. If we ask ourselves what is the leading cause of death in the United States, we usually think of heart disease, cancer, and other serious illnesses. Actually the leading cause of death in the United States is abortion. The architects of the pro-abortion movement in the United States thought that within a year or so the opposition would go away or die off. More than 30 years later the issue is still alive because people care about life, and an ever-increasing number of young people are making it known that they, too, are committed to upholding respect for life”. Btw, Cardinal O’Malley blog –
Cardinal Rigali: “At this moment in our country’s history, defense of innocent human life is a moral responsibility for all of us. The same God who thundered from Mount Sinai: “Thou shalt not kill,” thunders still. When life in the womb is destroyed, God thunders: “This is a child!” When by the most barbaric means, unworthy of any civilized people, the brain of a child is sucked out of his or her head by a vacuum, God thunders: “This is a child!” When a baby is left to die of exposure on a shelf because of a failed abortion, and this is considered a “right” by any leader, God, the Source of all law and authority, thunders: “This is a child!””
Bishop Rene H. Gracida: “A Catholic cannot be said to have voted in this election with a good conscience if they have voted for a pro-abortion candidate. Barack Hussein Obama is a pro-abortion candidate.”
Bishop Robert Hermann of St. Louis: “The issue of life is the most basic issue and must be given priority over the issue of the economy, the issue of war or any other issue. Saving our children or killing our children is the overriding issue facing each of us. All other issues have to take second place to the issue of life.”
Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St Jo: “despite hardship, beyond partisanship, for the sake of our eternal salvation, Catholic voters should never support a candidate who favors the continued legalization of abortion”.
Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver : Barack Obama “the most committed abortion-rights presidential candidate of either major party since the Roe v. Wade. Catholics who promote Obama as pro-life candidate, are under a peculiar kind of self-hypnosis, or moral confusion, or worse.”
Bishop Serratelli of Paterson, NJ: The “pro-choice” movement is not pro-choice. It stands against the freedom to choose what is right according to the truth of the human person.
Edward Cardinal Egan of New York: “It is high time to stop pretending that we do not know what this nation of ours is allowing and approving with the killing each year of more than 1,600,000 innocent human beings within their mothers.”
Cardinal Francis George of Chicago: “Too many Americans have no recognition of the fact that children continue to be killed by abortion and we live, therefore, in a country drenched by blood. This can’t be something you start playing off pragmatically against other issues.”

atemely on November 3, 2008 at 8:49 PM

How would Jesus vote

Hilbilly on November 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM

Jesus wouldn’t vote. That wasn’t why He came to earth. His ministry was all about evangilizing (spreading the good news) not taking sides in earthly contests. He knew the reason why His father sent him to us. If Christ were to take sides, it wouldn’t be to make a choice between Obama (a member of a radical racist church) or McCain (a CHINO-Christian in name only- whose moral compass is apparently absent of any faith). Christ and hopefully Christians can see beyond these bleak times to what is coming to them for being saved.

highhopes on November 3, 2008 at 8:57 PM

Amen to that post, highhopes! My hope in Christ is what is getting me through the possibility of a marxist being at the helm of our great country. I know many Christians who are saying the same thing….a peace that passes all understanding. It would have to be, b/c an Oliar presidency would certainly qualify the “all understanding” part.

annetteharrell on November 3, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Bishop Martin Holley, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Washington:

“As an African American, I am saddened by evidence that Black women continue to be targeted by the abortion industry. The loss of any child from abortion is a tragedy, but we must ask: Why are minority children being aborted at such disproportionate rates? Many African Americans are not aware that since the Roe v. Wade decision legalized abortion throughout all 9 months of pregnancy, the number one cause of death in the African American community has been abortion. We have lost over 13 million lives. To put that in perspective, it is one third of our present Black population. Since 1973, twice as many Black Americans have died from abortion than from AIDS, accidents, violent crimes, cancer, and heart disease combined.

atemely on November 3, 2008 at 9:07 PM

You cannot call yourself a practing Catholic and support 0bama. He is directly opposed to our five “non-negotiables”. If you support him, you are no more of a Catholic than Pelosi. You should not take communion and should go find another Church to belong to that like the Episcopals who are more “enlightened” when it comes to gay marriage and other Catholic hot buttons.

stm58 on November 3, 2008 at 9:09 PM

Barry “punished by a baby” Obama.

profitsbeard on November 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM

“What confuses me most about the religious right in this country isn’t that their religious faith is bound up in their politics. It’s their assumption that their religious faith is the only way to be a “true” Christian. It’s religion, not science. It’s faith and belief, not certainty. The whole point of religion is that you have faith, not objective, scientific standing for your understanding of the cosmos. So why can’t people just accept that their version of faith means that things like abortion, gay rights etc, are critically important and lots of other people’s faith traditions don’t include those as top priorities. It doesn’t mean anyone loves Jesus less does it? I just don’t think Americans really care for this kind of stuff anymore.

DeathToMediaHacks on November 3, 2008 at 12:18 PM”

That is the CLASSIC moral relativist argument. You can still be a good “Christian” even if you don’t understand or follow the Bible. Jesus taught us to respect life, not destroy it. Liberals find it reprehensible to execute a serial killer on death row, but have no problem murdering an innocent unborn baby or someone like Terry Schiavo. It goes to the very heart of the liberal hypocrisy. Then there’s that silly Sixth Commandment, Thou Shalt Not Kill.

stm58 on November 3, 2008 at 9:19 PM

“I am at odds with my Jewish community. I have Palin stickers all over my car. Needless to say, after Yom Kipper, I was not the most popular Jewess in town! Shanda!

beththebaker on November 3, 2008 at 12:39 PM”

beththebaker, what God thinks of you is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than what your fellow Jews do. They cannot give you Eternal Life, only God can. God warned us to be wary of the hypocrites. To hell with them (literally).

stm58 on November 3, 2008 at 9:23 PM

Catholics, lay and religious are at the forefront of the Pro-Life movement. Ever been to the ‘March For Life’ in Washington DC every Jan. 22, Roe v. Wade anniversary? The huge crowd of marchers are predominantly Catholic.
Images of aborted babies from first to 3rd trimester at:
God have mercy on us.

atemely on November 3, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Catechism of the Catholic Church (Doubleday)on Abortion:(2270)

Human life must be respected & protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person-among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you. Jeremiah 1:5
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth. Psalm 139:15

atemely on November 3, 2008 at 9:40 PM

I know many Christians who are saying the same thing….a peace that passes all understanding.
annetteharrell on November 3, 2008 at 9:05 PM

When you have faith in Christ, all this other stuff fades in comparison. I think that Christians are going to be tested often in the coming days and the tests will result in the nominal faithful shed any pretense of faith but, more importantly, will energize the truly faithful to seek a more righteous relationship with God.

highhopes on November 3, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Catholics, lay and religious are at the forefront of the Pro-Life movement. Ever been to the ‘March For Life’ in Washington DC every Jan. 22, Roe v. Wade anniversary? The huge crowd of marchers are predominantly Catholic.

That’s because “March for Life” is mostly a Catholic thing the same way Ed seems to think that HA doesn’t have to present a Protestant case for voting for McCain. When it comes to abortion, the Catholics have definitely been doing the heavy lifting. Nevertheless, I was on the board of a local Habitat for Humanity board down here in (mostly Catholic) Louisiana. Because Habitat is a “Protestant thing” Catholics went out of their way to thwart our efforts at providing affordable housing to deserving families. Apparently, the only “Christian” charities the Catholic church recognizes are their own and that is somewhat offensive.

highhopes on November 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Mother Teresa Delivered an Anti-Abortion Answer At a National Prayer Breakfast in Washington:

While she was alive, Mother Teresa of Calcutta delivered the most startling and bold proclamation of truth to power. Before an audience of 3,000 – that included President Clinton and Hillary, Al Gore and Tipper as well as several congressional leaders – the then 83-year old nun, who was physically frail but spiritually and rhetorically powerful, delivered an address that cut to the heart of the social ills afflicting America.

She said that America, once known for generosity to the world, has become selfish. And she said that the greatest proof of that selfishness is abortion. Tying abortion to growing violence and murder in the streets, she said, ‘If we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill each other? . . . Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want.’

At that line, most of those in attendance erupted in a standing ovation, something that rarely occurs at these sedate events. At that moment, President Clinton quickly reached for his water glass, and Mrs. Clinton and Vice President and Mrs. Gore stared without expression at Mother Teresa. They did not applaud. It was clearly an uncomfortable moment on the dais.

She then delivered the knockout punch: ‘Many people are very, very concerned with children in India, with the children of Africa where quite a few die of hunger, and so on. Many people are also concerned about all the violence in this great country of the United States. ‘These concerns are very good. But often these same people are not concerned with the millions who are being killed by the deliberate decision of their own mothers. And this is what is the greatest destroyer of peace today – abortion, which brings people to such blindness.’

What? Abortion destroys peace and causes blindness toward the sick, the hungry and the naked? Abortion leads to wars between nations? Of course it does, if life is regarded so lightly and its disposal becomes so trivial, so clinical and so easy. Why should people or nations regard human life as noble or dignified if abortion flourishes? Why agonize about indiscriminate death in Bosnia when babies are being killed far more efficiently and out of the sight of television cameras?

Mother Teresa delivered her address without rhetorical flourishes. She never raised her voice or pounded the lectern. Her power was in her words and the selfless life she has led. Even President Clinton, in his remarks that followed, acknowledged she was beyond criticism because of the life she has lived in service to others.

At the end, she pleaded for pregnant women who don’t want their children to give them to her: ‘I am willing to accept any child who would be aborted and to give that child to a married couple who will love the child and be loved by the child.’ She said she has placed over 3,000 children in adoptive homes from her Calcutta headquarters alone. She has answered the question, ‘Who will care for all of these babies if abortion is again outlawed?’ Now the question is whether a woman contemplating abortion wishes to be selfish or selfless, to take life or to give life.”

AceR on November 3, 2008 at 9:58 PM

Today Ladies and Gentelmen, we are in the valley, clad in our battlegear, awaken to the day by a force from within, a purpose, a mission, battle lies ahead!

We have been joined this “MORNING IN AMERICA” by PUMA’s, Reagan Democrates, RHINO’s, Conservatives, peoples of all faiths, of all social backgrounds, of ALL races, arm in arm, shoulder to shoulder, clinging to our God, our Guns, our Flag, our Constitution!

We are looking up at a huge mountain, with a fortress of the far left radicals inside awaiting our attack. The Socilialists, protected all the way up the hill by the MSM, and with Pundits blocking our paths, the task is daunting and will require all of the effort a human can muster!

But we are bolstered by our faith, comforted by that still small voice inside… Fortified by the knowledge that from our efforts here today our children and thiers will grow up in a FREE, PROUD, STRONG AMERICA… The America of our Founders, of our Grandfathers and Fathers, of our FALLEN HEROS who gave it all for our RIGHT TO FIGHT TODAY!

Drawing comfort from our friends, family, church and our mission we march onward, “RUSH”ing up the hill, tossing aside all the Pundits, embarrasing the MSM, confronting the radicals and leaving them wondering what hit them…

VICTORY AWAITS for all those willing to lay it all on the line today! Are you ready? Will you fight? Will you vote?


Mark Garnett on November 3, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Don’t think that Obama’s support for abortion is the only reason Catholics should vote against him. His socialist “leanings” are also contrary to Church teaching. The sanctity of private property is integral to the human person. See my post, A Word to Catholics on Election Day: Remember Rerum Novarum at The Culture Project.

jrendini on November 3, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Catholics of South Dakota, my stomping grounds, have an interesting choice. Vote “yes” on initiated measure 11 to end abortion as a form of birth control and vote McCain, or vote “yes” on 11 and negate that vote by pulling the lever for Obama.

The vote “no”, pro-abortion “Campaign for Healthy Families” (hah!) has been in hot water for its advertising. One ad was forced off the air because it incorrectly portrayed the application of initiated measure 11 on Twin-Twin Transfusion Syndrome. Another ad was yanked when the “Campaign for Healthy Families” was served a cease and desist order by the South Dakota Medical Association and one of SD’s larger health providers.
We’re praying that life prevails!

WaltDakota on November 3, 2008 at 10:08 PM


I appreciate your passion. My Catholic parish is very involved with “Habitat for Humanity”
Ed is Catholic so it’s only natural that he give a Catholic opinion in this manner. If you want to present the Protestant case, go ahead!

Vince on November 3, 2008 at 10:17 PM

OK, I’m not Catholic or Protestant, but a Christian and I say amen to what Ed has said. I just can’t imagine anyone who respects life voting for this man. Is it too little too late? I also pray that it is not.
If you want to see a description of the horrible act of abortion go to LaShawnBarbara (I think that is her name – a great former lib who found Christ and changed). If we don’t care for the life of the baby, look out seniors, it’s coming your way.
If you want to read a nice tribute to McCain go to

Bambi on November 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Vince on November 3, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Hey Vince,

Glad to hear my experience isn’t necessarily typical but, here in Louisiana, Catholic Charities is the big winner from the Catholic church.

I’m not necessarily the best messenger but I wouldn’t hesitate presenting the “Protestant case.” I could point out all the ways McCain is the better choice from a Protestant Christian viewpoint. But, what’s the point without headline status? When I weighed in on thread a Catholic told be that Protestants view communion as a silly little ceremony without meaning. There is absolutely no point in me making the Protestant case unless the analysis is at the top of the thread and serious.

Gotta tell you- that whole silly little ceremony comment by some supposedly devout Catholic has had me riled up for weeks.

highhopes on November 3, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Nice list, atemely. Mind if I add one?

Bishop Vasa, Baker, OR: “When we were working on the document ‘Faithful Citizenship’, and the issue of whether or not a person’s adamant pro-abortion position was a disqualifying condition, the general sense was ‘yes that is a disqualifying condition’.”
“When we have someone who has that stand on a disqualifying issue, then the other issues, in many ways, do not matter because they are already wrong on that absolutely fundamental issue.”

On proportionate reason he said: “If we had a candidate in favor of a war in Iraq in which we decimate the entire population and we kill as many civilians to impose as much terror on everybody as possible to make sure . . . If that was in opposition to a pro-abortion person then I’d have a real conflict of conscience because you’d have a direct and intentional killing of innocent persons on one hand and the direct and intentional killing of persons on the other hand,” said the Baker Bishop.

“But we don’t have that issue with capital punishment; we don’t have that issue with the war in Iraq; we don’t have that issue with the present Administration,” he added.

I really appreciated his including of the present Administration in that last, as so many Catholics and people in general use the current Administration as a reason to vote against McCain.

If nothing else good comes of this nightmare of an election, at least it has forced the issue of abortion into the forefront where it should have been for the past 30 years. I just pray that we don’t allow it to fall back into the dark again, no matter who is elected.

His socialist “leanings” are also contrary to Church teaching.
jrendini on November 3, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Thank you! Pope JPII and Benedict XVI have spoken very forcefully against Marxism, calling it evil. And yes, they have also spoken negatively about capitalism, but they discuss the ‘excesses’ of capitalism only. And they are right, but they never say that capitalism is inherently bad. But Pope Benedict, then Cardinal, wrote:

Where the Marxist ideology of liberation had been consistently applied, a total lack of freedom had developed, whose horrors were now laid bare before the eyes of the entire world. Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic.

And Obama’s wrong on so many other things, as well. He also distorted the Sermon on the Mount to support homosexual relations, which contradicts Church teaching. He has ties to people who are either terrorists, or racists both of which the Church teaches are gravely evil. He advocates ‘comprehensive sex education, which goes against pretty much everything the Church teaches about sexuality. The Dems are the ones who do all in their power to remove all signs of Christ from the public arena. Heck, even the old standard ‘Democrats are the party of the worker’ doesn’t apply these days, what with the Employee Free Choice Act.

I just don’t get it. How could people be so deceived?

Could it beeee…Satan? /Church Lady impression.]

Joking aside, I have also prayed more than normal, and I typically pray pretty often. I’ve been praying the Divine Mercy Novena, tonight being the ninth day, and I’ve been struck by how much each intention has fit in the last eight days. Tonight is dedicated to those souls who have grown lukewarm. How immensely fitting.

pannw on November 3, 2008 at 10:40 PM

What an excellent article and thread. I am an Orthodox Jew, but have been blessed with many thoughtful and caring gentiles in my life who have strengthened my faith both in G-d and in people’s ability to reach within and do what is right.

It is my sincere prayer that the Obamysteria that seems to have swept away all reason and considered discrimination during this election will not lead to a culture further debased and less able to provide the freedoms and ooportunities that have allowed us ALL to thrive.

Todah rabah again to the authors, and /salute to the commenters.

Baruch HaShem!

MogenDavid on November 3, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Don’t vote for someone who is for abortion or you may go to hell…j

just continue to hide pedophile priest, support unrepentant adulterers who abandon their wives, a woman who pimps her fornicating daughter and it’s all good…

hypocrisy… such a lovely biblical trait…not.

TOPV on November 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Bishop Paul Loverde of the Arlington Diocese of Northern Virginia prohibited the passing out of political fliers on cars this last Sunday. Pro-life advocates, many his flock, spent Sunday handing out pro-life election fliers at Protestant Churches. The Catholic church parking lots were being guarded by Knights, etc. at the request of the Bishop. This stance is typical. We wouldn’t want to annoy our liberal catholic flock and perhaps have a decrease in $$$.

Haunches on November 3, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Ed & Elizabeth: Thank you for a very to-the-point post. As a member of the local Lutherans for Life chapter, it appears that we are using the same biblical basis for opposing the murders of the unborn. Our Lutheran prayers are going to the same Lord and Savior as yours – we just don’t use a rosary. Keep the faith – and as you indicate – God’s will WILL be done – no matter the outcome of the election tomorrow!

john b. kalb on November 3, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Jesus came to bring life, physical and spiritual, He would “vote” for life. It would serve us well to remember we fight a spiritual battle. One that cannot be won with human devises alone. No matter the outcome of this election, our LORD will still be in charge, His plan will prevail, and we will see His mighty works, He is still in the Miracle business!

socalconcervitive on November 4, 2008 at 12:39 AM

hypocrisy… such a lovely biblical trait…not.

TOPV on November 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Ignorance – such a typical liberal trait. Thanks for not disappointing.

xblade on November 4, 2008 at 2:16 AM

If Catholics had been on board the pro-life bandwagon from the beginning, we’d have already overturned Roe by now. Most Protestants have found themselves at odds with Catholics in fighting against abortion since they legalized it. I’m not expecting ‘great things’ from the Catholic community toward a more conservative political outlook.

I’ve always wondered why Catholics were Democrats. I guess it’s the organized labor of religion which makes them support the organized labor of politics. — Thacker Agency

It’s the same as wondering why Jews are Democrats and vote for Democrats (self destructive behavior).

There are a lot of people who expect “government” (or, parents, or a spouse, or their family or their neighbors, or schools, or their bosses, or…) to do what they themselves should or ought to be doing as individuals.

The whole expectation if not demand that government “do” while defying allegedly ascribed to theology as individuals is commonplace among…liberals.

In fact, it’s what separates the Socialists from the rest of us. A religious tag or “cover” tends to help them ease their own conscience, or, avoid dealing with issues of conscience, in my experience.

Thus, the blame and responsibility is always placed outward. Which is contrary to Judeo and Christian theology.

S on November 4, 2008 at 4:02 AM

Not that “blame” should be placed on onesself, but, the point is, we are each responsible for our sins and will be held accountable for them.

If you remove the responsibility and individual culpability for conditions, it’s then easy to start holding and demanding something or someone else responsible for just about everything, ad infinitum. It also helps defray self examination, or, exercise of personal conscience.

In Obama’s case, for keen example, as a liberal, note his associations with the “church” he intentionally sought out and selected: usery. It provided HIM with something he could use for worldly gain. I do believe his few statements about his “faith” are false but largely just vanity. He can “use” the statements and so he does.

S on November 4, 2008 at 4:05 AM

The Catholic Church in the 20th century has a strong force for left of center thought on virtually every major issue; anti-war, pro-welfare, anti-big business, pro-union, anti-death penalty, pro-immigration, and pro social-justice. So Catholics are not bucking their Church when they vote democrat. – keep the change

Bah. I am a Catholic and no Catholic I know is as you describe. The only ‘catholics’ I know as you describe are found on the internet harping about Obama and other liberal nonsense.

And, those ‘catholics’ you describe ARE “bucking their Church”. There is no association in their quasi-humanist “interpretations by feelings” (so to call it) which they then allege to be “catholic” and the Catholic Church.

IF they were associated with the Church, they could not in any reasonable conscience promote and support the various politics that they do.

Interesting is that the American Catholic Bishops have been criticised by the Vatican for just about everything, and they are responsible for the replacement of the Church in the U.S. by pretenses using the name of “Catholic” to defy what the Church believes theologically.

I’ve encountered more than a few ‘catholics’ on the internet who claim to be “life long Catholics” and claim they’re “devout” and do various rituals and whatnot, yet, when asked on specific issues, reflect an opposite position on those issues than what the Church advocates.

But, in my personal experience, I know of no Catholics who are as you describe. I’ve met more than a few people who fall back on having been raised in the Church by Catholic parents and thus, identify as Catholics when they are not, clearly, in relationship with the (actual) Church, but with some sort of cultural pattern (which is humanism, not what the Church is about).

I have my differences with Liberal parishes, however, as a Catholic, in their use of donations to fund what they deem “assistance” that services many Liberal, political causes. THAT’s the problem of a wayward “American Catholic” Church, which Pope Benedict is addressing, thank God.

S on November 4, 2008 at 4:37 AM

2. To change the Constitution will take more than “power Trifecta” – it takes votes and states.
Socialism has happened here and still goes on – limitedly. Fascism still has a way to go for a real foothold here.

kybowexar on November 3, 2008 at 2:41 PM

All it takes to effectively “change” the Constitution is to consistenty or “progressively” defy it, to not enforce it, to contradict and insult it without penalty.

Which is what the Democrats have “progressively” been doing and which Obama gets cheers from his advocates for advocating, by the way. He uses the whole hopey/changey evocative, “preacha'” talk street-walk-strut stuff to entice and flame evocatively and, people forget the principles and then just: “oh, well, it’s what feels good, so that’s what we’re doing, people are happy, all that matters.”

Same thing Castro did, same thing Hugo Chavez has done, same thing, ahem, Adolf Hitler did.

The principles of democracy are cast aside and in steps the evocative “preacha'” talker stage personality, and, then, the few who stand back and say, “what about our Constitution” are soon just taken out of society by one means or another.

That is exactly what Obama’s process is, what Pelosi’s ongoing process is as she and Rahm Emanuel have set goals upon, that’s what the Progressive Democrats are, they’re Socialists, in other words, sneaky, low down Communists.

But they “sound nice” and “look pretty” so they fool the gullible…

“The price of freedom is eternal vigilence.”

S on November 4, 2008 at 4:48 AM

More people ought to read up on Nancy Pelosi’s background. She was raised by a political father to practice her current “recipe box” favor system: she keeps tabs on what she does for people — with expectations, which is not charity, not real or genuine doing for others — and then follows-up with her demands when need be.

Classic mob-practice, by the way, the entire basis of organized crime.

Pelosi keeps a box of “favors bestowed” which she then calls-in at some future time useful to her own political goals. Same thing practiced by, say, John Gotti.

And read up on Communism in Italy, which is Pelosi’s inspiration by what she’s revealed about herself. So, of COURSE she uses the excuse of being “Catholic,” because it’s cover and allows her reduce her blink rate somewhat. This type of moral corruption is difficult to confront, but confront it the rest of us need to.

S on November 4, 2008 at 4:53 AM

Are you planning to use those weapons defensively or offensively, tocoloro?

jim m on November 3, 2008 at 6:35 PM

I’d say it depends on the outcome of the election.

Either way, they will be needed.

cntrlfrk on November 4, 2008 at 11:45 AM