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Obama: We’ll bankrupt any new coal plants

posted at 10:40 am on November 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The folks at Naked Emperor News have unearthed another interesting nugget from a Barack Obama interview from months ago. In January 2008, Obama spoke about his approach to global warming and cap-and-trade systems, and he had a warning for anyone foolish enough to invest in coal:

So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

Yesterday, we looked at Obama’s notions of government sending “price signals” to change behavior that it finds objectionable, especially on energy.  This is the way Obama intends to do it.  Coal provides 49% of domestic electrical power, and any rise in the cost of producing that energy will raise its cost to consumers and reduce the amount produced.

This comes as no great shock, pun intended.  Obama already called for a 15% reduction in demand for electricity — at the same time he and his allies want transportation to switch from gasoline to electricity.  Obama never explained this particular contradiction.  How does one switch tens of millions of vehicles from gasoline to electricity while not Increasing demand, let alone by cutting it 15%?  And when trying to break free from a recession, the nation will need greater production in energy, not a reduction.

The coal-based economics of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, and other states will be the first to feel this new policy.  Let’s hope the voters there pay attention.

Addendum: If anyone has a transcript from this interview, let me know.

Update: Free Republic transcribed this video (via Gateway Pundit):

Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It’s just that it will bankrupt them.

I’d still like to get a transcript of the entire interview.  I believe that the San Francisco Chronicle interviewed Obama in January of this year, but they have no transcript on their site.  That seems very odd for a newspaper interview, especially one in which they’ve posted video.


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Story and link are now top of the page at Lucianne….McCain has to come flat out and say Obama, using cap and trade, plans on shutting down coal plants. That should get some traction!

patrick neid on November 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Fraud will cost us our nation. Here we come “Global Poverty Act”. (It is a travesty that his did not get any press)-clnurnberg on November 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Don’t be a gloomy gus – get out there and hustle up votes for McCain. He will win this election – but only if we are there for him. Make it happen!

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Story and link are now top of the page at Lucianne….McCain has to come flat out and say Obama, using cap and trade, plans on shutting down coal plants. That should get some traction! – patrick neid on November 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Excellent! Thanks again for your hard work, patrick.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM

They won’t suffer, even if their ratings go to near zero because people won’t spend the electricity to keep their damn TVs on any more.

funky chicken on November 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Besides, BHO would always be able to find some cash lying around the Oval Office to help keep his new Pravda cooperative afloat.

progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Drudge posted it, using the Newsbusters link, but it won’t open. Server must be overloaded.

Audio: Obama Tells Paper He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry…

Buy Danish on November 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Alpha Natural Resources has a contact page here: http://alnr.client.shareholder.com/contactus.cfm. They have thier corporate offices in VA, and this is a must win for McCain.

jdawg on November 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM

So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

Since we appear to be entering a period of Global Cooling, companies that emit more greenhouse gases should get a tax deduction. It can be financed with all the money that the swindler Al Gore made on his fraud of Apocalyptic Global Warming.

MB4 on November 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Buy Danish on November 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Drudge better hope Obama loses if he values his business. This won’t go over well. I wonder what Noonan and Parker will think when they read it.

a capella on November 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM

why isn’t the view counter increasing?

ctmom on November 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM

With Virginia in play, they should hit the streets with this…Obama wants the state of Virginia to be a “ghost town”.

right2bright on November 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM

This could crush the electric cars due out soon.

abbey normal on November 2, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Bradky,

What’s up, dog? This seems like a good post in which to catch up with you. Looks like your guy Obama has this thing, and maybe with a real solid margin.

Which of his (socialist) policies are you most excited about?

Tax rebates for people who don’t pay taxes
Energy bankruptcy
Isolation of free press that won’t print whatever he says
Elevation of domestic terrorists to “respected professor” status
Decimation of defense industry
Replacement of defense systems budget with Peacenik patronage

I think my favorite is going to be energy, because it will be the thing that ignorant Obama supporters will notice first. The others are more subtle, and won’t kick in until several thousand Americans are murdered by terrorists that we have been coddling with “diplomacy”.

Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 1:31 PM

I particularly like BHO’s reasoning, here:

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

I haven’t read all of the comments, so I’m sure someone must have pointed this out already, but I’d like to hear someone ask BHO how bankrupting people/companies “will also generate billions of dollars”? I assume he must be talking about the fees for playing the cap-and-trade, or the diversion of capital from a productive investment to a more speculative one, but the idea of generating money from this scheme is so ridiculous as to be hysterical, were it not so deadly serious.

Forget Harvard, this is not even up to an 8th grade level of reasoning on BHO’s part. He’s a first-crass intellect, that’s for sure.

progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Doesn’t Joe the Biden want the coal plants to be in China, so he said? Clean coal supporters, my foot. Where’s the audio of Gaffetastic Joe making these remarks?

Philly on November 2, 2008 at 12:38 PM

progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 1:34 PM

My comment was a bit off-kilter. I was keying on the “generate” description, when the appropriate description would have been ‘confiscate’ or, being very generous, ‘transfer’. It just hit me as interesting to talk about “bankrupting” someone in order to “generate” money, so closely tied together.

progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Rumor has it that Brad is actually a McCain supporter. If so, he has a strange way of showing it.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

J.J. Sefton on November 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM

That was a fantastic animation! THAT’s what’s missing today; a focused effort to explain capitalism and compare it accurately to all the other ‘isms’.

Thanks for that link. Maybe mycowardice will take a look and see himself in a zoot suit selling communist snake oil.

Doubtful, but you never know.

techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Drudge posted it.. Thanks Ed and Mommypundit.

Thats alota emails I just sent : )

Texyank on November 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM

That news on Obama’s views on coal is going to be critical in PA and Ohio!

Also, I did some checking – this is from a relatively radical environmental site, so there is not much reason to discount the figures.

Coal generates roughly 54% of the power consumed in the US through over 600 separate plants. http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/coalvswind/c01.html

If Obama puts them out of business, just where will we get our power from? It takes roughly 10 to 20 years to build a nuclear plant, and the cost is enormous. That timeline and expense does not factor in delays caused by environmental protest and litigation.

How do we replace over half of our current power needs? The only viable solution in the intermediate term is oil. Of course, the plants currently burning coal would have to be retrofitted at a hefty expense, but why would we do that?

We very recently got a lesson in our reliance on foreign sources of oil. We can be held hostage. Now, Obama opposed drilling domestically and offshore (says now he “may” do it), so he is pretty much wed to continued reliance on foreign sources. Not only that, he wants to INCREASE our reliance on foreign oil by requiring us to replace coal with oil. Insane.

Insane, unless there are other motives at work here. IF the US became energy independent, that would be close to $1 trillion a year that stayed within the US economy. Particularly hard hit would be the Marxist regimes ofHugo Chavez and the Muslim/Arab world whose economies are overly dependent on oil exports.

By killing coal and killing domestic oil production, Obama would be actually increasing our dependence on foreign oil and increasing the economic clout of foreign oil producers, most of whom have no qualms about using oil as an economic weapon against the US.

This is beyond naieve. It is downright dangerous. It would be national suicide to follow Obama’s path. The US would die a slow death, bled dry by other countries using their leverage in the oil markets to destroy us economically.

And Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Obama’s other marxist mentors would smile, knowing that their goal of destroying the US is within reach.

Jim M. on November 2, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Drudge posted it, using the Newsbusters link, but it won’t open. Server must be overloaded.

Audio: Obama Tells Paper He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry…

Buy Danish on November 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM

It opened when I doublecliked

Texyank on November 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM

yep there goes a lot of Pa. They are all about coal.

Keep going down buddy…..

johnnyU on November 2, 2008 at 1:31 PM

One could easily make a case that Obama is using William Ayers manifesto: destroy America from within (nationalize health care, 401k plans, install a cap and trade, tax all carbon emissions, ban offshore drilling), silence the dissenters (Fairness Doctrine, national civilian security force, new AWB), and then turn over the country to the Russian and Chi-coms (take all U.S. nuclear weapons offline, Global Poverty Act).

See, way too easy. :)

dugan on November 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM

More right than you might suspect, my friend.

Take a good hard look and listen to this video interview with ex-KGB propaganda agent Yuri Bezmenov in 1985 and tell me the EXACT plan and results he lays methodically out aren’t what’s happening right now.

This video is critically important and anyone who has not seen it really needs to. Send it out to everybody you know.

The infiltration has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. It will also not be over when obambi is defeated on Tuesday. This is a fight we’re in for no matter what. Obambi’s defeat gives us a bit more time. But fight we must and will.

techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I think emailing this story to every TV news station and newspaper in coal states, would sink Obama. I just sent this story out to a few.

Tin Lizzy on November 2, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Put some coal in Obama’s Christmas stocking:-
vote against this crypto-Marxist, planned economy weasel!

profitsbeard on November 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM

I think emailing this story to every TV news station and newspaper in coal states, would sink Obama. I just sent this story out to a few.

Tin Lizzy on November 2, 2008 at 1:40 PM

You’re dreaming. No one is listening any more. The McCain campaign was supposed to know this and talk about it during the debates and the summer campaign, but they lacked the clarity of thought to do so. McCain thinks Obama is a great guy and would be a great President.

Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 1:54 PM

The only poll that had it right - 2 points apart…

Entelechy on November 2, 2008 at 2:01 PM

USA born July 4 1776 USA died November 4 2008

grapeknutz on November 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Unbelievable. Come on coal states, wake up!

CP on November 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM

The hilarious thing about our fellow Americans is the manner in which they rely on someone else. B Hussien Obama tells America that destroying the coal industry will force the new clean technologies for energy. From who? Americans educated in “our” public schools?

Geez, there are enough gloom and doom liberal scientists on the global warming band wagon that if there were anything close to a solution, they’d be hawking it. Corn to ethenol was a disaster. No Nukes. No coal. No drilling. You’d have to be an idiot to not see the Democratic position on energy is going to destroy the country.

Right from the Alinsky playbook.

Fools!

hawkdriver on November 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM

McCain is getting ready to do a town hall meeting. I pray someone brings this up.

ctmom on November 2, 2008 at 2:27 PM

The infiltration has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. It will also not be over when obambi is defeated on Tuesday. This is a fight we’re in for no matter what. Obambi’s defeat gives us a bit more time. But fight we must and will.

techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Sort of like W’s long war on terror? He did warn us as he launched the Afghan War – sad that only a few listened.

platypus on November 2, 2008 at 2:41 PM

The only poll that had it right – 2 points apart…

Entelechy on November 2, 2008 at 2:01 PM

In contrast to other polls, which show Obama leading McCain by 4 points (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby) to 11 (Newsweek), the IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll debuts today with Obama up just 2 points with 13% (including 25% of independents) undecided. The poll was conducted Oct. 6-12 among 825 likely voters.

:)

abinitioadinfinitum on November 2, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Sort of like W’s long war on terror? He did warn us as he launched the Afghan War – sad that only a few listened.

platypus on November 2, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Did you watch the video? More than one enemy. More than one battle.

My post spoke to the ideological influences and ancestors of obambi and his ilk.

But I do get the long aspect of it, if that’s what you were going for. Neither battle will be over quickly. Just not possible.

It’s taken decades to get to this point, with both the islamists and the commnuists, and it will take a concerted effort and a great deal of time to reverse the damage already done to our Republic.

techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 2:54 PM

USA born July 4 1776 USA died November 4 2008 – grapeknutz on November 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Nonsense. Now get out there and fight. Vote for McCain. And get the vote out for McCain.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Did you watch the video? More than one enemy. More than one battle.

My post spoke to the ideological influences and ancestors of obambi and his ilk.

But I do get the long aspect of it, if that’s what you were going for. Neither battle will be over quickly. Just not possible.

It’s taken decades to get to this point, with both the islamists and the commnuists, and it will take a concerted effort and a great deal of time to reverse the damage already done to our Republic.

techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Yes. That’s what made me think that maybe W’s warning was a larger scope than most of us were thinking back then.

Watching a smoking pile of rubble with 3000 bodies in it tends to make one a little myopic. But it is much more obvious that all of these struggles are merely different facets on a diamond (so to speak) rather than discrete struggles.

platypus on November 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Worth repeating-this was news 4 months ago.
Way to go MSM. Deception of the American public once again.
You can only wonder just how much info. they have on “The One” they have not released.
What I have seen of the MSM this election brings me to the conclusion that these people have been throwing up a smoke screen for a very long time.
Their credibility has long been lost.
Don’t need them anymore-thank you internet.
Bye, bye MSM and close the door on your way OUT!

Gulf Coast on November 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Bye, bye MSM and close the door on your way OUT!

Gulf Coast on November 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Too polite. Throw their sorry a$$es through the door and we won’t have to close it.

platypus on November 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Nonsense. Now get out there and fight. Vote for McCain. And get the vote out for McCain.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Calm down Manly. The only thing that could create a huge drastic movement of votes at this late date is the MSM and I wouldn’t hold my breath. Have a beer and enjoy the fall sunshine it won’t last long.

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Yes. That’s what made me think that maybe W’s warning was a larger scope than most of us were thinking back then.

Watching a smoking pile of rubble with 3000 bodies in it tends to make one a little myopic. But it is much more obvious that all of these struggles are merely different facets on a diamond (so to speak) rather than discrete struggles.

platypus on November 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Agreed, to a point. When W warned of the long war, I believe he was primarily talking about the jihadis. But I will agree with you that much of the ideologies that seek to bring the USA down are undeniably tied together.

Not a lot differentiates the tactics and ideologies of islam and communism. They both demand total submission and dependence. They just worship different gods.

techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Geez, there are enough gloom and doom liberal scientists on the global warming band wagon that if there were anything close to a solution, they’d be hawking it. Corn to ethenol was a disaster. No Nukes. No coal. No drilling. You’d have to be an idiot to not see the Democratic position on energy is going to destroy the country.

Right from the Alinsky playbook.

Fools!

hawkdriver on November 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM

A UK physics professor wrote a book honestly assessing the ability to power the UK using clean energy, and it’s not that pretty. This link is to his book in PDF format.

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Pish posh. Get out there and vote for McCain. Don’t be a Doubting Daniel.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 3:32 PM

This link is to his book in PDF format.

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Sorry, that link was to an article about the book. This is the download page for the PDF of the book itself.

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Pish posh. Get out there and vote for McCain. Don’t be a Doubting Daniel.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I am going to vote for him, although I wish there was a better candidate, but I’m not looking for a Nov surprise that will convince a large chunk of voters to change their minds.

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Okay, here is a contact list for the UMWA HQ in various states, with telephone numbers and email addresses. Forward this thread to each and spread the word of the danger that Obama poses for the coal industry, our power generation, and the economy.

http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=content/umwa-offices

Get ‘er done. Flood these offices with facts and links.

onlineanalyst on November 2, 2008 at 3:51 PM

The campaign is on the ball, robocalls are being made.

johnt on November 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Newt is talking about it on Cavuto right now.

ctmom on November 2, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Bye, bye MSM and close the door on your way OUT!

Gulf Coast on November 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Too polite. Throw their sorry a$$es through the door and we won’t have to close it.

platypus on November 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Too polite by half. Burn them at the stake. Or at least sing a song of victory as their sorry asses boil in the hot oil of bankruptcy.

No torture too cruel for those who betray their nation.

turfmann on November 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Pish posh. Get out there and vote for McCain. Don’t be a Doubting Daniel.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 3:32 PM

This is no time to quote Mary Poppins, my friend. Better to invoke George Patton, William Tecumseh Sherman or Robert E. Lee. Now is the time for the 16″ guns.

Or for that matter, put away the Tanqueray and break out the Bombay.

Sherman (with apologies to the sensitivities of my southern brethren – as a yankee – I speak as an American mindful of the heroism, sacrifice and redemption of of my southern brothers of our conflict of long ago that troubles us still these centuries later – indeed the crucible of the modern America that Obama seeks to destroy)

You have heretofore read public sentiment in your newspapers, that live by falsehood and excitement; and the quicker you seek for truth in other quarters, the better. I repeat then that, by the original compact of government, the United States had certain rights in Georgia, which have never been relinquished and never will be; that the South began the war by seizing forts, arsenals, mints, custom-houses, etc., etc., long before Mr. Lincoln was installed, and before the South had one jot or title of provocation. I myself have seen in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi, hundreds and thousands of women and children fleeing from your armies and desperadoes, hungry and with bleeding feet. In Memphis, Vicksburg, and Mississippi, we fed thousands and thousands of the families of rebel soldiers left on our hands, and whom we could not see starve. Now that war comes to you, you feel very different. You deprecate its horrors, but did not feel them when you sent car-loads of soldiers and ammunition, and moulded shells and shot, to carry war into Kentucky and Tennessee, to desolate the homes of hundreds and thousands of good people who only asked to live in peace at their old homes, and under the Government of their inheritance. But these comparisons are idle. I want peace, and believe it can only be reached through union and war, and I will ever conduct war with a view to perfect an early success. WTS

For the Republic! On to Victory!

turfmann on November 2, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Just some disjointed facts:

TIPP shows Senator Obama up by 2.1% with 8.7% undecided.

Drudge has this headline:

Audio: Obama Tells Paper He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry…

From wikipedia:

27 states produce coal. The major coal-producing states are (in descending order as of 2000, with annual production in thousands of short tons):

Wyoming (338,900).
West Virginia (158,257)
Kentucky (130,688)
Pennsylvania (74,619)
Texas (49,498)
Montana (38,352)
Illinois (33,444)
Virginia (32,834)
North Dakota (31,270)
Colorado (29,137)
Indiana (27,965)
New Mexico (27,323)
Utah (26,656)
Ohio (22,269)
Alabama (19,324)
Arizona (13,111)
Total United States: 1,437,174

I smell a quick attack ad….

patch on November 2, 2008 at 5:24 PM

I’ll take clean coal/coal gasification for the win, Alex.

THis is a huge issue winner for Republicans. Always has. McCain ought to ring this bell like a fourth grader on Halloween. Energy independence and all its benefits, jobs, tax revenue, and a stable domestic supply of energy to meet the demands of our economy until renewable non-carbon based sources become economically viable. It just makes too damn much sense.

Angry Dumbo on November 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM

so what do we do? all get demotions or quit our jobs so we can sit and collect all the free money? get rid of our cars? wow my insurance will be cheaper. Do we take anti-productivity classes? I sure dont want to have any income to give away. Making more means ya have to earn less when he gets in, right? I just wanna know how we succeed in his system thats all , so I can prepare.

No coal technology, so there goes all those mining jobs. All of those folks will be sitting home.

Sure this guy is FOR America? Sounds like a good guy to wreck America to me just with the last few headlines alone. Oh and all the ballots already cast? Your screwed like he wants you to be. Can’t take the votes back now can you?

johnnyU on November 2, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Just got email from McCain camp on this issue.

KBird on November 2, 2008 at 6:10 PM

Coal is going to be a subject that everyone is going to be talking about in the very near future. There is a revolutionary new technology that will soon be made known to the public. Yes it is clean coal, but so much more. It is also a liquification process that will be able to produce more oil than a multiple of OPECS combined. The process will not use water and be nearly emission free. I am not at liberty to say how or who it is, but I believe it will be public knowledge very soon. The United States will soon be an exporter of oil and OPEC is not going to like it very much. What a GAME CHANGER this is going to be!

Vanquisher on November 2, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Great work everyone.

McCain and Palin are both on the attack about Obama and coal. As Rush likes to say “Let’s drag McCain over the finish line”.

huckleberryfriend on November 2, 2008 at 6:32 PM

United Mine Workers endorsed Obama way back in March. Their weak argument was ” Obama is from a Coal State”. Unions against the rank and file as usual.

http://www.umwa.org/

Dennis D on November 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Any hope of Hussein winning West Va just dribbled away……..

and hopefully Penna and Ohio

Janos Hunyadi on November 2, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Great work everyone.

McCain and Palin are both on the attack about Obama and coal. As Rush likes to say “Let’s drag McCain over the finish line”.

huckleberryfriend on November 2, 2008 at 6:32 PM

Like this?

Consider the guy at the wrong end of the rope to be Mrs. Palin (albeit she is a wee bit better looking :) )

turfmann on November 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM

0B0mbers answer to global warming:

Make us freeze to death in winter or in my case fire up a few trees in the fireplace along with a few left-over newspapers which I never read, and the propoganda the 0B0mber will be mailing those of us in his re-education camps.

dhunter on November 2, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Exactly. Let’s not use coal in the plants that we’ve invested billions in scrubbers to extract pollutants from the exhaust and instead cut down all the forests like our forefathers did and spew the smoke and most of the energy from its combustion into the atmosphere. Brilliant, Obama. The more this man speaks the more clear his genius becomes.

turfmann on November 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM

United Mine Workers endorsed Obama way back in March. Their … argument was ”Obama is from a Coal State”.

Dennis D on November 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM

What coal state? Illinois? Huh?

Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM

http://www.umwa.org/

Dennis D on November 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Thanks, DD. These gangsters need to be abused by a few million voters. Their web site is a string of filthy lies.

Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 8:29 PM

A UK physics professor wrote a book honestly assessing the ability to power the UK using clean energy, and it’s not that pretty. This link is to his book in PDF format.

DFCtomm on November 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Better enjoy the sunshine yourself there, tough guy. My daughters are 20 and 18, and their friends are the ones who are voting in their first Presidential election, and this is what they’ve been taught by the socialists that run our elementary and high schools, and by our colleges:

- coal is filthy, dirty, and it was used in coal-burning stoves 100 years ago, and people die from it.

- we don’t need coal – we can just replace it will solar power and wind power, silly. Only a neanderthal would fail to see that.

- we don’t need nuclear (yuck!) power, oil, gasoline, or any of that yucky stuff; we can just get our energy from clean, renewable energy sources. Everyone in Hollywood says so, and my teachers say so, too!

They don’t know nothin’ about your UK author, or about where the power to run their hair straighteners and laptops comes from, and they don’t care. You plug it in, and it works. They don’t have electricity bills.

Enjoy the sunshine, sport.

Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM

Only God can punish us with an Obama presidency now.

The people have been warned.

To those that complain about the MSM…a majority of people DO NOT TRUST them, their audience slips a little everyday. There are plenty of ways to get information without their assistance.

If Obama wins, it’s just one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, not something that you really had any control over anyway.

Dorvillian on November 2, 2008 at 8:48 PM

You got it wrong. F*ck off, troll.

ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM

I certainly hope that you’ve activated your IFF by now.

baldilocks on November 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM

If Obama wins, it’s just one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, not something that you really had any control over anyway.

Dorvillian on November 2, 2008 at 8:48 PM

true, if obama is elected, then the ezekiel scenario (37-39) is going to happen sooner, rather than later..

right4life on November 2, 2008 at 9:39 PM

MB4 on November 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

You are correct, sir.

hillbillyjim on November 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Drudge pushed all the coal articles up to the top of the page!

I’ve never seen Drudge move articles upwards. This is going to be something big.

progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM

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