Obama: We’ll bankrupt any new coal plants
posted at 10:40 am on November 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The folks at Naked Emperor News have unearthed another interesting nugget from a Barack Obama interview from months ago. In January 2008, Obama spoke about his approach to global warming and cap-and-trade systems, and he had a warning for anyone foolish enough to invest in coal:
So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
Yesterday, we looked at Obama’s notions of government sending “price signals” to change behavior that it finds objectionable, especially on energy. This is the way Obama intends to do it. Coal provides 49% of domestic electrical power, and any rise in the cost of producing that energy will raise its cost to consumers and reduce the amount produced.
This comes as no great shock, pun intended. Obama already called for a 15% reduction in demand for electricity — at the same time he and his allies want transportation to switch from gasoline to electricity. Obama never explained this particular contradiction. How does one switch tens of millions of vehicles from gasoline to electricity while not Increasing demand, let alone by cutting it 15%? And when trying to break free from a recession, the nation will need greater production in energy, not a reduction.
The coal-based economics of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, and other states will be the first to feel this new policy. Let’s hope the voters there pay attention.
Addendum: If anyone has a transcript from this interview, let me know.
Update: Free Republic transcribed this video (via Gateway Pundit):
Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.
I’d still like to get a transcript of the entire interview. I believe that the San Francisco Chronicle interviewed Obama in January of this year, but they have no transcript on their site. That seems very odd for a newspaper interview, especially one in which they’ve posted video.
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You ain’t lying there.
BallisticBob on November 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Do you think Johnathan Martin over at Politico is now choking on his lead words to this paragraph?
Comments apparently are closed to his blog post I link above. Sad. Hopefully his ears are burning.
unclesmrgol on November 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
Buy Danish on November 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I believe Naked Emperor is a one wo/man operation. Says something about one determined individual vs a totally sucky press. I don’t know if this is an official ad or not but this is also good. Check out Hillbuzz’s post on Palin hater’s assault in Chicago.
And is it just me that is concerned about Obama’s national civilian security force (or is that personal militia?)
saint on November 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM
That Man, Mr. BO is a fukking di**head. I am going to email this to my friends over in Michigan, Ohio, Pa. and other states. He is going to do his best to really screw up our Country. I will do what I can to try to stop this. Biden is a a&&. This ruined my breakfast too.
sheebe on November 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM
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Mommypundit on November 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM
That is courtesy of http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=39989
Mommypundit on November 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM
BHO just wants to bankrupt the US. Why would anyone have any problems with that? Doesn’t everyone despise the US like BHO does?
progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM
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Mommypundit on November 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Why do these things come out so late…they don’t have a chance to hit voters.
tomas on November 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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Mommypundit on November 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Sat down all 3 kids here (22, 20, 18) and talked Obama policies, with backup objective evidence provided to quell the crap they hear from friends, college professors, etc. The PatrickS house is now delivering 5 votes for McCain/Palin….unfortunately in CA though. Sure as hell e-mailing relatives/friends “back thar” though….
Patrick S on November 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM
So the coal producing states are going into the export business, if they are allowed to produce coal at all, meanwhile it’s lights out for America. Who could possible vote for this Obama fool.
tarpon on November 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM
ManlyRash and others,
I’m finding that it takes a few clicks to find usable contact details, so if anyone wants to join in pick a single letter, or for example, email the I, J and Ks as there are only four.
Here’s a suggested form letter for a this, or anyone else you want to mail:
EnglishMike on November 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I’m telling you, these PUMAs are doing some HEAVY LIFTING over there for John McCain/Sarah Palin. DO YOUR PART, TOO. It is your country!!!!
Mommypundit on November 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM
The Math….
1 Barrel of oil = 1640.8 kilowatt hours
US used 9,468,000 barrels per day 7/25/08 for motor gasoline.
Or 15,535,094,400 Kilowatt hours equivalent in gasoline for transportation, PER DAY, or 15.5 Billion Kilowatt hours per day.
Total electricity generated by US in 2006, 4059 BILLION Kilowatt hours,
Or 11.12 Billion Kilowatt hours per day.
So, we would have to increase electricity generation by more than DOUBLE to 240% of current procudtion…
CAN’T happen folks.
Romeo13 on November 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM
It’s easy to get caught up in the video thinking about new coal plants that he will bankrupt with his admitted onerous Gore like boondoggle–cap and trade.
What should not be forgotten is that all existing coal plants will fall under the same financial penalty despite whatever grandfathering they beg for. Older plants will close and new ones will not be built.
patrick neid on November 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Luh luh luh luh luh luh luh let me explain…
jgapinoy on November 2, 2008 at 11:07 AM
There’s the clue.
tru2tx on November 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Obama as president is going to kick ass.
Seixon on November 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Nice work Mommypundit!
It’s cut and paste time!
EnglishMike on November 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Great job getting it started, folks. Thanks for the links. I have e-mailed Fox News, PA newspaper editors, the National Republican Trust, my favorite commentators and radio hosts and I have contacted the McCain campaign. This is in addition to notifying my friends and family. Let’s roll…
Philly on November 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Good point, Patrick Neid.
Philly on November 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Imagine 4 years of this incredible stupidity!!! Then weep!
jeanie on November 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM
The polls were up there, ab. They will be up for Bambi today and tomorrow. And the election day exit poll will project an Obama landslide. Ignore them.
McCain will win handily – but only if we all do the best we can to make it happen. Keep up the good work.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM
My post may be deleted, but that’s ok, somebody has to say it: this is not your hippie daddy’s peace corps. This will be Obama’s Youth.
JustTruth101 on November 2, 2008 at 11:49 AM
I get frustrated with that too, but the crew here has the right idea. email the info to everyone you know who is elgible to vote. I’ve been doing it with other material for several months and have some scalps on my belt I didn’t think would ever vote Republican. We’ve still got 2 days.
a capella on November 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Moxie on November 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Candidate Bill Russell’s office has been contacted :)
I think this is more effective than trying to contact the media. Unless you are with a press office, such as with someone in a campaign or an elected official, it’s pretty hard to get through.
Buy Danish on November 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM
God bless you! Keep fighting, don;t rest. Don;t stop for a minute. Not a second…not until Bambi gives his concession speech.
WE CAN DO THIS. AND WE WILL WIN.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM
saint — sadly, the video was put up on YouTube on September 14, 2008, and only has 176,750 views. As powerful as it is, it’s lost in the noise.
unclesmrgol on November 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM
We are busy trying to save the United States.
LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET THE F*CK OUT OF THE WAY.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Email the link to video to as many people as you can. That will surely help.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Excellent. I hadn’t thought of that.
a capella on November 2, 2008 at 11:54 AM
If Nobama gets a National Security Force. Looks like the guns will have bullets flying. What is the purpose for this? I know why. Trouble is the sheep don’t get it. Looks like one hell of a fight. But, McCain will win!!!
sheebe on November 2, 2008 at 11:54 AM
I guess we get Seixon, rather than Tom Shipley, today.
BuckeyeSam on November 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Good work, Philly. Let’s keep the pressure up.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Take a hike, asshole.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM
How much airplay can this get in PA over the next 24 hours?
SMB102589 on November 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I want to know what the hell is wrong with PA. Biden says they don’t support clean coal…Obama says this…Obama calls them bitter clingers…Murtha calls ‘em racists and rednecks. WHY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A TICKET, FOR A PARTY, THAT LOOKS DOWN THEIR NOSE AT YOU?!?! Its absolutely mind boggling…what do they have to say for these people to get a clue?
changer1701 on November 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Do us all a favor: don’t think out loud.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM
We’ll find out in the next 24 hours.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Palin is in OH today and Mac is in PA. They need to hit this hard in their speeches.
rsrobinson on November 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Actually, we’ve got nearly 48 hours.
IrishEi on November 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM
I hate to talk about my gut reaction, but the predictions of a Obama landslide don’t make intuitive sense. The size of Palin rallies and the enthusiasm of the base seem to point to a much closer race.
Perhaps more importantly, Obama has a history of underperforming in the primaries by wide margins. We’ll see if this holds true in the general election.
From NRO http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTFkZDA3ODgyMDgxMzRlNjMxMjMwMWE0YjYyYWE4M2M=
obladioblada on November 2, 2008 at 12:00 PM
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:53 AM
You’re energy and attitude are truly awesome! After we save this country from the hands of Liberal-Democrat scum, you must come here and go out on a good ol fashioned hunt with us.
Take a break, and get out in the wilderness where you can be at one with nature. One things for sure ol buddy, we don’t run into any Liberal weenies out there!
In the meanwhile, we got lots of work to do!
Keemo on November 2, 2008 at 12:01 PM
I think PA is going to flip red this year for McCain. This will help, but they need to have this up in ads in coal states, ASAP.
rsrobinson on November 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM
If Obama takes PA, and that is a huge if, it will be because of Philadelphia. Don’t forget that Rendell is sweating bullets. Western and central PA are center-right.
obladioblada on November 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM
When feeling the energy being taken right out of the sails, remember the following:
Democrats must have the following voting blocks to win a general election:
1> Black vote – got it.
2> Hispanic vote – very questionable!
3> Female vote – don’t have it, not even close.
4> Left center white vote (Conservative Dem) – don’t have it!
Keemo on November 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Drama queen. Saving the world one thread post at a time.
Bradky on November 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Asshole. Bumming people out one post at a time. Go back to bed and stay there till November 5.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM
This is fun!
It’s kind of like…
Community organising!
EnglishMike on November 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM
The PUMAs and Hillaryites are the cavalry that will ride in to swipe PA from Obama an make it red this year. As an added bonus, Murtha will get tossed out on his spotty fat ass.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Yup! The good kind…the way community organizing used to be.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Some of our best and brightest are working on it as we speak, rs. Let’s do what we can to help them and help McCain. And thank you for your help and your support! Keep up the good work. Get out the vote. Make it happen!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Wow, Mommypundit,
I just finished e-mailing everyone at FOX news, all your contacts are going to take me all day. Well I better get busy.
Thanks,
ab Initio
abinitioadinfinitum on November 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM
My gut may be oversized, but your gut is spot on accurate. Obama’s internals are a disaster. He knows he’s on the ropes. That’s why it’s up to us to deliver the knock-out punch. Let’s send this skinny communist to the canvas!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM
God bless you, ab. Thank you for all the hard work.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Thanks for the invite, Keemo. And thanks for the hard work. We will win this, but we have to fight for it.
Let’s roll.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM
A couple of suggestions
1. Don’t waste time mailing papers that are weeklies, or ‘community’ papers filled with lifestyle cr*p. Stick to the big and/or serious ones.
2. Email business editors/desks too. They may take the story more seriously than news reporters.
I’ve mailed the Philly and Pittsburgh paper, now starting at ‘A”…
EnglishMike on November 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Obladioblada, Northeast Philly and the local suburbs also are strong areas for McCain. No wonder Phat Ed Rendell is sweating bullets.
Philly on November 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Check out the 27 states that mine coal. If we can get this out in time, Barry may in fact wish he never said this. I still feel McCain will win, but this may just make Obama’s loss a lot worse.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I’m hearing you loud and clear, my friend!!11!!!
abinitioadinfinitum on November 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Agreed. The polls are all weighted heavily for Democratic turnout. They are also calling for historic turnout rates. However, for the historic turnout rates they are projecting, enormous numbers of Republicans must also turn out.
There are too many center-right Democrats in places like PA and OH and they won’t vote for a leftist. It also seems to me that they’ve underestimated the enthusiasm level of or Republicans–even Republicans who aren’t thrilled about McCain are anxious to vote against Obama. Other than the youth vote, there aren’t going to be many voters who sit this one out.
obladioblada on November 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Delaware County used to be so Republican that many races were uncontested. Has it gone over to the dark side?
obladioblada on November 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Here in Philly suburbs, I think it may be working, judging just by the sudden number of new McCain signs–multiples on their well-manicured lawns–and the same Obama signs that have been up since the primaries.
But Philly, well you know, the Black vote and the “wanna-live-in-NYC” liberals.
Moxie on November 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM
The Frogs who wished for a King.
It’s unfortunate for some of the smarter frogs, who were shouted down and outvoted by the stupider amphibians. They had to live under King Crane too.
NoSquids on November 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM
@ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Are you kidding me? Some of you people are so unbelievably uptight that you can’t even recognize BLATANT sarcasm. It’s a comment thread, buddy, lighten up.
The whole point of the comment I left was a dig at the increasingly retarded (but still the same, almost verbatim) statement that the Obama campaign releases every time some thing that actually describes Obama’s policies comes to light.
I apologize to everyone for breaking the rules of the (apparent) person in charge of this comment thread. Rule #1 being, “If ManlyRash doesn’t get your post, then it must be trolling. Can’t be anything else because I’m a genius.”
Anyway. I sent this link out to almost everyone on my address book list in gmail. I never, ever spam peoples’ inboxes with political stuff, but this is just too important. The fact that the odds of it making the MSM news cycle are slim to none makes it all the more important for each of us to get the message out to our friends and family.
Stuff like this (ya know, what Obama actually believes in) is the best chance McCain has at winning the election. People have clearly shown that his associations do not matter (I would say this has a lot to do with the fact that the MSM downplays them). If enough people can see, hear, and read his comments, it just might be enough to swing the election in our favor.
theblakeus on November 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM
(I’ll get this one.)
Shut the f*** up, troll. There’s a bunch of people here trying to save their country.
*stomp*
*kick*
(How’d I do?)
turfmann on November 2, 2008 at 12:28 PM
theblakeus use a sarc tag, we are getting so tired of astroturfers that sometimes mistakes are made.
djohn669 on November 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Isn’t he going to call it the Nat-C Security Force?
James on November 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I think Seixon is being sarcastic?
abinitioadinfinitum on November 2, 2008 at 12:32 PM
@djohn669 on November 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Noted.
theblakeus on November 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I took the liberty (while i still have my liberty) of writing an e-mail that I would encourage all of you to send out to anyone you can. Use the whole thing, use part of it, add to it, whatever, just get the word out. Many of the swings states would be directly affecting by this ridiculous policy!!! I titled it OBAMA Coal and You.
Hey,
Please go to this link, the video is only about two minutes, but it extremely important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
During an interview with a San Francisco radio station Obama gives his thoughts on the coal industry.
No matter which side of the global warming debate you currently fall it is clear that the Democratic party and their leader, Barack Obama, are intent on using their argument for man-made global warming to drastically change our society. Right now, 49% of the electricity we use to heat and power our homes comes from coal, and the coal industry produces jobs upwards of 100,000. Obama’s goal is to put such tight regulations on the coal industry that it goes bankrupt.
While we can all agree that we would like to be good stewards of the environment it is apparent that at this moment we don’t have any “clean” alternatives that could replace coal powered electricity if Obama’s policies bankrupt it. This reality brings to mind some questions that we should ask ourselves before we head into the voting booth on Tuesday:
1. If I am a coal worker, would bankrupting coal power plants be good for my career?
2. If I am part of the 49% of households that use coal powered electricity, how will I turn on my lights, tv, microwave if the coal industry is bankrupted?
3. If I am part of the 49% of households that use coal powered electricity, how will I warm my home in the winter and cool it in the summer?
4. If I am being told that electric cars are the wave of the future because they don’t use gas from the terrible oil industry, yet these very electric cars would then need to run off of the electricity produced from coal does that make any sense? (Bonus question: if I buy an electric car and then the coal industry is bankrupted how will I power my car?)
5. If coal powered electricity is more expensive to produce because of taxation and regulation will my power bill go up or down?
6. If the supply of coal powered energy is decreased will demand on nuclear power, home heating oil and natural gas go up or down? If the demand for nuclear power, home heating oil, and natural gas goes up will by power bill go up or down?
This is NOT some hokey chain letter where I will claim if you don’t forward it on to 5 people you will have a piano drop on our head or you will develop some annoying but non-life threatening rash. The consequences of not getting the word out are much worse; electing a man who despises capitalism, the very engine that has made us the most prosperous and free nation in the history of the world.
We have two days to stop this from happening and its definitely not too late. It is obvious that with few exception the media will not get the word out, so it is up to us to educate our family, friends and neighbors about this important issue. It is up to YOU! Who do you know who lives in a coal producing state? Who do you know who uses coal powered electricity? Who do you know who doesn’t want to pay more for their power bill?
Go McCain/Palin!
dookphan on November 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Next time use the /sarc tag and there will be no misunderstandings.
And remember to vote for McCain!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Not enough blood coming out of his ears. Kick him some more.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Yeah…His own ass.
Dreadnought223 on November 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM
It’s all about “jobs” isn’t it Obama?
Obama’s a phony, and democrats don’t want to know face it.
They’re electing him out of spite, which is apropos in a way because don’t all tragedies begin with seemingly harmless yet sinful motive?
Vermin.
jeff_from_mpls on November 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Contacts for Virginia Local Television Station:
Virginia Newspaper Editor’s E-Mail Addresses:
Mommypundit on November 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Thank you from the coalfields of Southwest Virginia.
hillbillyjim on November 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Search Google News for ‘obama bankrupt coal’ and you’ll get 3 hits: Powerline, American Thinker, and KXMB (Bismark, ND). That needs to change.
Peri Winkle on November 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM
And yes indeed, Civilian National Security Force means thugs in your neighborhood with police powers and a hankering for revenge.
I’ll reserve my sympathy for the innocent victims. Many Americans will simply get what they unwittingly wished for.
jeff_from_mpls on November 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM
That’s what you’d expect in a news blackout.
Funny thing is, today it’s a voluntary blackout. Next year it won’t be voluntary. I’ll have no sympathy for the press. They brought this on themselves.
jeff_from_mpls on November 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM
National Civilian Security Force.
Crack dealers with police powers.
Good luck, America.
jeff_from_mpls on November 2, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Going hunting without finding any liberal weenies? What’s the fun in that?
DarkCurrent on November 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I’m sure Philly pols will scam the voting machines and let people vote as often as the please, just as they did in 2006 where I am reliably told there was no procedure to insure against fraud.
Fraud will cost us our nation. Here we come “Global Poverty Act”. (It is a travesty that his did not get any press)
clnurnberg on November 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Drudge just added it, posting the link to Newsbusters.
SMB102589 on November 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I especially liked how the retard, BHO, said that this “force” must be as large and well-funded as our regular military. Of course, no one in the media ever bothered questioning why we would need as much firepower for use against Americans as we need to defend ourselves from threats the world over, including nuclear-armed states.
This whole election is so surreal that I feel as if we have all been dragged through the looking glass into a world devoid of rationality or sense. It is just unbelievable.
No matter what the election result, I wonder what the reaction is going to be after it’s over and all the real dirt on BHO, that was intentionally kept under wraps, finally comes spilling out.
progressoverpeace on November 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Sorry, gang, but there are 120,000 people who work in the coal industry, and tens of millions of voters in Pennsylvania, alone. Most of them are liberals who can’t add two plus two, and will gladly throw the 120,000 under the bus “for the environment”.
What they can’t figure out is that Caterpillar, for example, employs another 101,000 people worldwide, and they supply a lot of the mining equipment to the industry. The railroads, trucks, and boats that move coal – millions of employees. This is half of our electrical supply.
But the employee-economy relationship is complicated for people who are so economically illiterate, and they are easily fooled by Obama claims that “green energy” sources will provide “millions” of new jobs. The real key information is energy cost. When their electrical bills triple under Obama, they’ll understand.
Utility costs are “class blind” – which is to say that if you make $20,000 a year (under Obama, this classifies you as third-world), you still need a basic amount of electricity and gasoline just to live, but if you make $1 million dollars a year, you don’t need that much more.
So, as Rush likes to parody the press – “Obama triples energy cost – women and minorities hardest hit!”
Good luck waiting for that headline…
Jaibones on November 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Haha, he is truly going to DESTROY the United States. Unbelievable.
Riposte on November 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM
It might not be a bad idea to get this out to as many coal mining companies as possible – they do have media relations people who might be interested in this and would have an interest in stopping The One from bankrupting them. I’m putting together a list of email addresses.
jdawg on November 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Hey Bradky! I’ve got a campaign strategy for you. Why don’t you run down to the intersection of Ft.Campbell Blvd. and Chaffee Rd. and wave an Obama banner around. Then when you get the desired effect drive up to Mannington and do the same thing. Let us know how things turn out. Cheers!
Oldnuke on November 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM
The only ones who would mind the censorship just got kicked of the Obama bus. The rest will clambor to report Obama’s lies, just like they have for the past 2 years. And Obama will make sure they keep their jobs with government subsidies. They won’t suffer, even if their ratings go to near zero because people won’t spend the electricity to keep their damn TVs on any more.
funky chicken on November 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM
jdawg, great idea
funky chicken on November 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Not if you vote for McCain. Talk to friends, family and neighbors. Make sure they vote for McCain.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM
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