Is Virginia in the bag for Obama?
posted at 12:15 pm on November 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Meryl Yourish says no — and in fact one of the state’s largest newspapers agrees. The Richmond Times-Dispatch did its own polling in Virginia and got much different numbers than CNN and ABC over the last two weeks. They call the race a dead heat, and winnable for McCain:
The presidential contest in Virginia is heading toward a photo finish.
The final Richmond Times-Dispatch Poll of the campaign shows Sen. Barack Obama at 47 percent and Sen. John McCain at 44 percent. Nine percent are undecided — an unusually large slice of the electorate. The profile of undecided voters suggests that some are potentially opposed to Obama.
Because Obama’s advantage over McCain is within the poll’s margin of error — plus or minus 4 percentage points — the contest in Virginia can be considered about even.
Meryl says she heard an even smaller figure:
And this is what I was told yesterday at the Cantor rally: McCain is within one and a half percent. Undecideds trend against the frontrunner. Virginia carried Bush in 2004 and in 2000. Virginia is still a red state. Don’t believe the hype.
If Obama has not yet gotten a majority, he may never get it. Normally, undecideds break against the incumbent, but this race has no real incumbent. Obama tried to make McCain the incumbent, but the election has really become a referendum on Obama, and he knows it. Anyone still undecided at this point has not been able to convince themselves that Obama is ready for the presidency.
The percentage of undecideds has remained high right to the end — in some state polls, as high as 14%. Obama hasn’t made the sale, and I suspect most of them will wind up breaking towards McCain as a result. Virginia and Pennylvania will provide an especially interesting test of this theory.
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That says it all. C’mon you HotAirHeads in VA and PA! Let’s make it happen. Talk to friends and family. Send out emails. Make phone calls. Link folks up with Ed’s articles. Get out that vote.
With our help McCain will win and win big!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Take your McCain yard sign and put it up on a major road Monday night or early Tues. morning….
reshas1 on November 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Hype, Hope, it doesn’t matter. McCain will win VA and will be our next president.
cannonball on November 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM
More interesting polling from Mason-Dixon (the one used by NBC)
Mac up in:
NC +3
Ohio +2
MO +1
-5 in Colorado
-3 in Virginia
The race has tightened and the astroturf is wearing a little thin…
Mac seems relaxed and fired up…does he know something we don’t?
joepub on November 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM
The higher the undecideds, the better I feel going into Tuesday. Even if you haven’t been paying attention, at all, there’s still been such an overhwelming Obama blitz that it could not have possibly missed anyone completely. If there are still undecided after all of that, they’re breaking for McCain.
How is MN looking for Coleman, Ed?
BadgerHawk on November 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I must confess – I will be glad with this idiotic election is over – and the MSM can get busy with their real jobs – destroying the next POTUS.
jake-the-goose on November 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Outside of the beltway Virginia and maybe Richmond and Petersburg – The Old Dominion is solidly Republican.
Hilts on November 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Puh-leeze! Bradley alone covers that spread. Toss in some Navy and vet influence, and it looks good.
Hopefully. The alternative is them worshipping at his altar.
Tommygun on November 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I think rural voters have decided this election matters to them more than any other and will turn out in unprecedented levels. They also tend to be much more wary of the press and pollsters.
joepub on November 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Ohio is in the bag for McCain (I know, I’m here). So if Mac can pick-up PA and keep VA, it’s goodbye Barry, head back to Chicago for good.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Amen, brother. But we have to work for it! Please do what you can to get out the vote. Call friends and family. Take neighbors to the polling places.
Vote for the McCain of your choice…but VOTE!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM
About PA, which is coal country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ&eurl=http://www.teamsarah.org/forum/topics/urgent-get-this-out-to-pa-and
Tommygun on November 2, 2008 at 12:27 PM
According to a letter posted on Hillbuzz that Rush spoke about on Thurs and Friday indicates the Obama campaign has paid pollsters to up the averages. If you check you will see that is exactly what is happening.
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/confession-of-an-obama-blogger-by-sarah-p-as-posted-to-this-site/
An insider of the Obama Campaign’s confession
Then her comment on that post later…
“How about the polls, how were the skewed?”
suzieviews on November 2, 2008 at 12:27 PM
God bless the Old Dominion. Help deliver overwhelming numbers for McCain, Hilts. Deliver Virginia for McCain.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Yep I think that is a fairly accurate summation of the situation. This is borne out by the fact that the number of undecided voters actually increased after the third debate with most of the undecideds coming from the Obama column.
Personally I think undecideds will end up making a comparison of the candidates based on experience and record and if that happens Obama will come up short in a big way causing them to break for McCain.
Dreadnought223 on November 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM
He knows he will win. So do I. But victories don’t happen in a vacuum. Let’s make this happen, folks. Get psyched! Get out there and get out the vote!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM
From your lips (errr…fingers) to God’s ear!
HawaiiLwyr on November 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Jim Geraghty said something that turnout is much higher in the Red areas of S. Carolina and TX. And neither of those are toss up states. I really do think the base is going to turn out big this year, and they’re not even remotely paying attention to the MSM. One thing is for sure, we are going to know the fate of this election pretty early on Tuesday night. If Mac holds most of the Red tossups and wins PA, then it’s over.
IR-MN on November 2, 2008 at 12:32 PM
MCain camp chair on FOXNEWS Sunday said they and the RNC are spending an incredible amount of money on get out the vote.
KBird on November 2, 2008 at 12:32 PM
There’s one point about the so-called “Bradley Effect” that hasn’t been made:
Tom Bradley was the most corrupt, do-nothing mayor Los Angeles has had in modern times. Like Osama Obama, his rise was fueled only by his skin color.
When he ran for governor, many of his improper and at least potentially illegal shenanigans had been exposed by a press that, in those days, still felt it had to cover genuine news even if it didn’t boost their chosen candidate.
So the “Bradley Effect” in good old liberal California was essentially a rejection of a crooked opportunist.
The liberals who have “studied” the effect cannot bring themselves to admit that a black candidate can be as devious, corrupt and unqualified as a white opponent.
We’re seeing a replay in 2008.
MrScribbler on November 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Mccain’s losing.
You’re all in denial.
Xolom on November 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Not quite. It will take Mike Ditka running against Obama in 2010 to put the final stake in his heart.
Right_of_Attila on November 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Undecided voters are only struggling with one issue and thats Race. Most are traditional democrats to whom Obamas record, lack of experience, and current positions are far to liberal. They are drawn to voting for the first black president but just can’t close the deal, most will decide in the booth and they’ll vote for McCain.
We will win!
dmann on November 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Da Nile is a river in Egypt. Remember to vote for McCain and bring everyone you know to the polls on Nov 4 to vote for McCain. Thanks for your support!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM
You know, if you just applied yourself you could get a better job than astroturfing for Obama.
Good luck with that.
Right_of_Attila on November 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM
If VA was in the bag, Barry wouldn’t be there Monday and McCain wouldn’t have been there yesterday.
SouthernGent on November 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Si se puede! (Let’s stick that little slogan right up Barry’s ass on electionday)
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I love Virginia. Virginia is the only state on the whole East Coast that I could even think about living in.
Ceroth on November 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM
The hope I bitterly clinge to everyday.
ThePrez on November 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Dreadnought223 on November 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Obama’s losing.
MSM’s all in the tank.
fogw on November 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM
McCain needs Megyn Kelly for press secretary. And I am perfectly serious.
JustTruth101 on November 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM
I was campaigning all day yesterday here in the Fredericksburg area, and this district, at least, should go solidly for McCain. And check out this yard sign we came across.
flipflop on November 2, 2008 at 12:45 PM
FTFY
SouthernGent on November 2, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Yup. If Mac wins both PA and PH, he wins.
JustTruth101 on November 2, 2008 at 12:45 PM
(sorry, typo) PA and OH
JustTruth101 on November 2, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Barry will win PH, the 57th state.
fogw on November 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I think they should rename all of the polls to…a liberal prayer.
They complain about “our” prayers to our God…then they create their own idol, a poll.
Feed the Poll, and he will serve us well…
right2bright on November 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I’ve a gut feeling that the pollsters and the media are going to be very shocked come Tuesday night.
Enoxo on November 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Maybe the Republican voter suppression efforts are a gift. The Obama people are convinced of victory and gloating complacently. If we’re lucky, some Obamabots will not bother to vote because it’s already “in the bag”.
Side note – I live in the liberal bastion of Austin, TX and I have been astounded at the lack of Obama signs compared to the blanketing of the city with Gore and Kerry signs during those two elections. Yards are heavy with signs for down race Dems and local Dems but relatively few for Obama. Even the far-lefty wacko home in our neighborhood near the middle school that usually has a line of homemade signs about the evil Republicans/Bushitler wrapped around their property during election seasons (last election the signs were so obnoxious that they were asked by the school to tone it down due to parent complaints) has had only one official campaign Obama sign this election. I have no idea what the difference signifies but it’s undeniable.
On the flip side, I haven’t seen many McCain signs, either. Interestingly, we have bumper stickers on both our cars and I have been approached twice by people who said they wished they were brave enough to put McCain stickers on their cars.
Put those two things together and they add up to “something’s up” but what that something means is anybody’s guess.
inmypajamas on November 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Ed:
Anyone undecided at this point hasn’t been paying attention, and is just going to vote on the basis of some vague emotion or impression from television. These are the people who have only the vaguest notion of how our government works, who the Vice President is, how many Senators there are, etc. They vote because they know they are ‘supposed to’.
These people are exactly the reason why mass democracy was eschewed by the Founding Fathers.
As I recall, the ‘undecideds’ in past elections have tended to split pretty much as the ‘decideds’ did. So if Obambi is in fact as far ahead in the state polls as he seems to be—beyond the margin of error in some cases—then the odds of a wave of undecideds washing McCain in are small to non-existent.
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but that’s the way it looks from here.
Then, I live in Massachusetts, which hasn’t voted for a Republican since Ronald Reagan ran against Walter Mondull in 1984.
Welcome to the New Europe.
MrLynn on November 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I’m just waiting for the Code Pinkos to bleed in the streets with Jane, Erica, and Babs.
TinMan13 on November 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM
There is precedent for fearing an Obama presidency.
We’ll be at our Veterans for McCain, Pensacola headquarters Tuesday night, drinking heavily.
Happy hangovers are so much better.
Go Virginia, Pennsylvania, O-hi-O, Old Mizzou and my own beloved FLORIDA!!!!
tree hugging sister on November 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM
The bankrupt video is linked at drudge, but not the headline. Whats up with that?
ctmom on November 2, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Can’t wait until my girlfriend gets off work so we can vote for McCain down here in Fairfax County!
Don’t believe the polls, make the case to family and friends (but not in the bullying way Obama asked his supporters to do it), and get out there and vote!
That Youtube video Allah posted yesterday (with the airplane) was spot on. It’s going to be a nail biter!
watchmen on November 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM
BTW, anyone got a link to the Wright ad that the Obambites are complaining about. My brother in Maryland says he saw one.
MrLynn on November 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Mr. Lynn:
I am perfectly aware of what the polls say. I know what the talking heads say. I stopped watching cable news more than an hour so a day because they just kept saying we are gonna lose over and over again.
I am voting for John McCain anyway. I am voting for Goode, the Republican running against the blue dog Democrat in the 8th district in Indiana. Both are supposed to be lost causes, but I am voting for them anyway. I figure I will wait and see what happens, either way it will not change my vote.
Terrye on November 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM
is there anyway media can get in trouble for working for Obama like this? Anyway at all.
tomas on November 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM
tomas:
Unless you call a huge loss in revenue in trouble, I am not sure.
Terrye on November 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Actually, at this stage I think “undecided voter” means “apathetic non-voter”. I really think most people who are undecided at this point ain’t votin’.
flipflop on November 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM
He was investigated in 1989 and the majority of the people doing the investigating, who were democrats to their very core, believed he should have been indicted. He wasn’t. Just got a public hand slapping.
Blake on November 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Hey guys,
I made 152 phone calls yesterday through . Go to ACTION and then choose MAKE CALLS.
This is what will happen… it asks you to choose a state. Well obviously, choose a battleground state. You’ll make a few calls and then you’ll see names pop up from other states. The campaign guides this from behind the scenes because they have certain areas that they are targeting. I called folks in OH, PA, and CO yesterday. I chose OH and PA, but the campaign started sending me CO names. All you have to do is read a script, record your results (drop down menus) and then hit next. I bet I only talked to 10 live people but I left voice mail messages until I was hoarse! But it’s worth it! It will make you feel good! And most importantly, it just might earn votes for McCain-Palin. You go at your own speed. Let’s DO something!!!!!!!
Oink on November 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Darn! The link didn’t work. http://www.johnmccain.com of course!
Oink on November 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-mccain-is-better-choice.html
Dr Evil on November 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Just heard McCain call Joe Biden “The Gift That Keeps On Giving” – too funny!!!
uncivilized on November 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Someone needs to watch this stuff
William Amos on November 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM
God bless you, oink. You are one of the brighter stars in the Hot Air constellation. Keep up the good work.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM
is there anyway media can get in trouble for working for Obama like this? Anyway at all. – tomas on November 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM
probably not. But that doesn’t matter, tomas. Get out there and vote for McCain. And help get others to vote for McCain.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM
McCain will win, Terrye. Trust me on this.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Hopefully there will be a few self-immolations.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Where do they find these people to poll? Seriously. I live inside the beltway and have never once been asked or seen anyone asking.
In Alexandria there have been more 0bama signs and stickers, but lately I’ve been seeing quite a number of McCain signs and stickers popping up too. I always wonder when I see a car without a sticker who they’re supporting. In this atmosphere of racist finger pointing I think many McCain supporters are not advertising.
4shoes on November 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Virginia won’t be for Obama, when they find out it wants to bankrupt their state…or at least bankrupt the coal producing industry.
right2bright on November 2, 2008 at 1:28 PM
I count you up there as well Manly. I love your optimism. I myself am prone to be cynical and pessimistic, though I do try not to be.
4shoes on November 2, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Or Jerri Thompson. I still chuckle when I think of her giving Skeletor that verbal pimp-slap.
Lehosh on November 2, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Yes. He and Obama have internal pollsters, and campaign polls are the most reliable because their only agenda is to give the candidate the clearest possible snapshot of the electorate.
rightwingprof on November 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM
*channeling Mark Levin* Thank me!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Here ya go:
nobaloney on November 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I can tell you that the tacky, unwelcome neuvo yuppies in Loudoun are just angering the people who’ve lived there for years. The new development there has brought a host of dummycrats who are doing whatever they can to make Loudoun into whatever ghetto they came from. They’ve already tried to impose rules on what the local churches can do, restrict how many horses a person can have, and they’ve run carpetbagger candidates to try to beat Frank Wolf, whom everyone loves out there and who has represented Loudoun for a very long time. It makes me sad that Va will soon be a big old ghetto, just like DC. I feel like I have to move back and try to stop it, (via volunteering and voting). They’ve already smeared George Allen out of office.
foxforce91 on November 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Ok, am I going crazy or is something not quite right with the times of these?
4shoes on November 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM
In the words of Mark Levin: “Thank me”
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Something is wrong with the chronology of these posts.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Ah…It’s because the Hot Air clock has finally been adjusted.
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
If a conservative Democrat James Webb beat a conservative Republican George Allen by 1 percent in Virginia, I find it hard to believe that a socialist is going to win.
These polls are being used for wish fulfillment by the left.
jjshaka on November 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I live in PA, and so far have made upwards of 350 phone calls using the “Make Calls” link on the McCain site. While most of these have been phone messages, I have noted that more than 75% of the people with whom I have spoken have expressed support for McCain. Some have been reluctant (indeed, I think I may in my small part have helped to put a little tail-wind behind McCain in the minds of a couple of the “leaners” I got on the phone). I heartily recommend that any and anon who may be reading this in PA, or any of the other key states find some time to hit the phones and politely, respectfully, and positively remind people of the caliber of this candidate, and of the stakes we face.
This is going to be interesting right up to the end!
Noocyte on November 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Thought it was just me!
4shoes on November 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Let me try this again. Don’t know why the link didn’t show up
Here ya go:
National Republican Trust
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/
nobaloney on November 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Here in northern Virginia, I’d say there are more Obama signs than those for McCain. A drive through the rural areas, however, reveals that they are heavily laden with McCain signs. I did notice that the Obama signs are sometimes huge, so maybe size does matter. One of the funniest is the big Obama/Biden sign that says, “For Lower Taxes.” If you believe that the two of the most liberal politicians in the Senate are really for lower taxes, you might believe the rapist who says he’s really a sex therapist.
NNtrancer on November 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM
OK, as promised, our organist played and we 350 Episcopalians sang America the Beautiful after the closing hymn this am. Everyone cheered after that. Father even gave a “non-commital” Election prayer from our Book of Common Prayers during our All Saints Service. I live in PA. I know we were all thinking the same thing: That we are afraid for our country and we are going to vote for John McCain and stand strong.
Tomorrow the markets have to be UP. Buy what you can. I have instructed my broker to do the same.
God Bless America. I know He’s watching.
gracie on November 2, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I’m in DE and my McCain vote is mostly a token, so I’ve been focusing on friends and family in VA, mostly the Shenandoah Valley areas where I used to live. I think I’ve done some convincing, but I was shocked at how many Obammy signs I saw, even in the mountain areas of central Virginia.
Don’t believe that VA is republican for sure this time- if you know folks there, keep up the emails and phone calls!
…and thanks for those optimistic posts, they are very encouraging. It’s tough being one of the few conservatives in DE!
dinobalz on November 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM
As you probably know, the base of the Democratic party, especially the poor and uneducated, are less likely to vote than most Americans. The Democrats put a lot of emphasis on registration and getting out the vote for that reason. That’s why you see Hollywood celebrities trying to get kids to vote, posing as if they’re doing something civic minded. All they’re doing is trying to get the Democrat constituency to the polls. This year, they have an advantage. With early voting, they have much more time to drag their constituency to the voting station. That’s probably why the early voting is heavily in favor of Obama.
However, there are likely more than enough McCain supporters to offset the Democratic voting drive, but only if McCain supporters actually vote. Remember, it’s not what the polls say. It’s not who is the majority party. It’s how many people actually go vote. So, if it seems that the race is over, it isn’t. All it takes to win is a heavy turnout by McCain supporters. That’s why we need to vote.
NNtrancer on November 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM
The West Virginia Coal Mining Industry is critical to the economy and well being of the state and the nation.
You need to get the video of Obama talking about him wiping out the coal industry to Virginia TVs pronto!!
Kokonut on November 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM
The crack about Democrats having a foot fetish was classic.
FWIW: my VA sister’s anecdodal observation:
“On the way to Charlottesville for [her son's] end of the season crew race, I saw very few Obama posters/signs. The real Virginians are for McCain; it’s No. VA that’s more liberal. Come Tuesday, I think VA will go for McCain.”
BuckeyeSam on November 2, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Richmond is my home town… God I hope VA doesn’t go for O. Almost all my family is there and will be voting for McCain. I do have a brother who has fully partaken of the Obama kool-aid. It breaks my heart that my big bro fell for this guy.
I already voted for McCain in VA! that’s one we got!
twoarmman on November 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM
http://www.results.org/website/article.asp?id=2897 Hope this is cool to post this? If not I apologize in advance. It has to do with the Global Poverty Act. Doesn’t sound to good though. Might not understand it though. tired and sick today.
sheebe on November 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM
I got a email from my brother about the Global Poverty Act being passed in 2007? I am kind of sick today and my eyes hurt to read a lot. I put the link in here. But assuming that is not allowed since it didn’t go through? Any way can anyone enlighten me since my brain is very blond today?
sheebe on November 2, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Thanks, NB—I sent them some $$$.
Only one question: Where the hell have they been the last three months?
MrLynn on November 2, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Senate sponsors are all Dems and RINOs. You can assume that President Obambi will be eager to sign it.
MrLynn on November 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM
The Wright ad is runnin in Iowa and the rags all have Iowa +15 to 25 for 0B0mber!
We may not win here W. lost by like 5000 but we will not loose by 15-25 and team Mccain must know it, also 0B0mber was in Des Moines friday a state hes’ up by 15 in. I think not, we get all of the new ads and I know lots of Dems or non-political types voting R for the first time this year.
Go SARAH!
dhunter on November 2, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Its amazing how any Red State could go blue after all the crap liberals have said about them for the last 8 years.
Speedwagon82 on November 2, 2008 at 2:04 PM
The media are submerged in the tank for Obama. Don’t listen to any polls with a margin greater than 2% – because that’s what it really is without even considering the Bradley Effect and the votes of the “undecideds.”
McCain will win this and win it handily. But you have to do your part. Get out the vote!
ManlyRash on November 2, 2008 at 2:09 PM
You vote for Goode, I’ll vote for Goodlatte, and we’ll both vote for Gilmore and McCain. We’ll both do our part!
acleaver on November 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Call. Call. Call.
https://secure.johnmccain.com//Secure/Signup.aspx?smode=phonebank
jimboster on November 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM
I’ve mentioned this on this site before, but I’ll post it again: I live in a HEAVILY liberal district in NoVa (the district, shamefully, that keeps re-electing that anti-semitic fool Jim Moran), and yet I’ve been stunned at the number of McCain signs I’ve seen. Not on street corners or public property, in people’s yards, proudly displayed. More, I’d argue, than I saw Bush signs in 04. Full disclosure: Obama signs outnumber the McCains signs, no doubt about that. But still, the number of McCain signs I’ve seen has surprised me.
This is purely anecdotal, I know. I only bring it up, again, because it’s relevant to the topic at hand – Virginia may be a state that goes McCain, despite what the press would have us believe. Outside of Richmond, the only stronghold for liberals in VA is Northern VA, and if there’s a not-inconsequential number of McCain supporters even there (whether they’re admitting their support or just keeping quite about it), Barack maybe shouldn’t be counting on a VA win.
Vyce on November 2, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Just spent several hours phoning for McCain/Palin at a local VA office ….. place was packed. Phones maxed out.
Remember, you can make phone calls yourselves to a BATTLEGROUND state even if you’re not in one:
http://www.JohnMcCain.com then click on the Make Calls button.
People keep stealing my McCain signs but I’ve got more in the van to replace them with…. :)
Let’s roll!
ex-Democrat on November 2, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I have to agree with Meryl it is not in the bag for Obama yet.
The Commonwealth should go for McCain except in a few key liberal areas like Fairfax County, Richmond, Charlottesville (V-Tech) etc.
McCain should take the rural areas as previous elections.
IMO it is going to come down to the counties that are on the outskirts of Fairfax like Prince William and Loudon.
F15Mech on November 2, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Going back to Bob Dole v. Bill Clinton, the final VA polls have underestimated GOP votes by a 6%-8% margin. Clinton was supposed to win in 1996 by 4 points, but lost to Dole in the state by that margin. I foresee the same outcome this year.
Physics Geek on November 2, 2008 at 2:45 PM
BTW, forgot to mention, I’m going to be doing my part and voting for McCain on Tuesday.
My parents already early-voted – also for McCain. My father hates Obama with a burning passion…..he refers to him as a communist. Only with a few expletives added as adjectives.
Vyce on November 2, 2008 at 2:51 PM
I’m here too, and you’re wrong, my friend.
Grow Fins on November 2, 2008 at 3:28 PM
We’ll find out for sure in a couple of days.
techno_barbarian on November 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM
I drove from Manassas to Leesburg this afternoon via Rt. 234 and Rt. 15. I counted all impressions almost the whole way there including bumper stickers, yard signs and the huge 4x8s. The count ended up being 44 to 13 for…..
McCain-Palin!
PS I saw two of the 4×8 Obama-Biden “Lower Taxes” signs on Rt. 15 near Oatlands, I almost spit-out my coffee.
MarkABinVA on November 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM
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